Serious pre-89 junior bike for sale

[Billy]

Check out our Pre 89 FZR 400/600 FOR SALE In the online trading section.Ready to go for the upcoming Actrix series

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?bikead=yes&p=1515607

[sosman]

looks awsome man good luck on sale

[Clivoris]

Oooh. Might be two 400/600 hybrids in post-classics this year. Could be exciting.

[Mental Trousers]

If the right person buys that then maybe Clive and Paul will both be wearing their bath robes/shower caps at the prize giving :lol:

[Clivoris]

Does anyone know Hugh Hefner's tailor?

[roadracingoldfart]

Does anyone know Hugh Hefner's tailor?



Stuff the tailor Clive ,
hell i will even loose the 400 cup on purpose if a couple of Hugh's girls will help me to into my outfit :woohoo:

But wait , a 600 cc powered 400 is not eligible is it ????? :confused:

Thats it . Im going to CBR 600 power my 400 now if thats ok

[sugilite]

As far as I'm aware, you can do anything you like as long as the bits and pieces were around in 1989 or earlier. Hmm GPX1000 might fit in my 750 frame, or even a gixxer 1100R motor :lol:

[steveyb]

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[sugilite]

My own opinion, based on a gut feeling and not much else, is that such a bike, while it is likely to be pretty cool, is not in keeping with the spirit of the rule for competition.

Enjoy

Steve
A number of bikes I raced against in 06 were running methanol and all sorts of other interesting 'items'

[steveyb]

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[sugilite]

I don't mind what they bring, I'll try to beat them. My bike is stock with heavy duty clutch springs lol (oh, and muzzy pipe now, yipppeee!)

[Billy]

My own opinion, based on a gut feeling and not much else, is that such a bike, while it is likely to be pretty cool, is not in keeping with the spirit of the rule for competition.

Enjoy

Steve
The post classic rules allow for replicas of the said era to be built,IE Steve Sangsters Graeme Crosby Replica GS1000R.iN THE 88-95 ERA There were several of these FZR600/400 bikes running in our Championship,Ones of note were Warren Turner,Robert Ryan and Dave Ogden and In fact this particular bike was built in 1989 by the guy I bought it off a year ago (Paul Easton).It should also be noted there are ATLEAST three others that I know of in the build stage and in fact 1 of those is ready to go for the Actrix series as well.Also the Vic club rules for Post classic are stated to be Pre 82 rules updated to 89,Therefore making Methanol legal in this class.As it should be as it was allowable in that era.Im sure anybody who was around in those days would remember Tony McMurdos Methanol/Nitro Methane burning ZXR400 or GPZ 500.Please remember if you are running Methanol or other Fuel additives to run the appropriate warning stickers on the Machine so the Flaggies and Crash crews Know what they are dealing with in the event of a fire.Further more ,It should be noted .The Yamaha FZR 400 and 600 have the same engine cases and Gear box etc.The only differences being the cylinders,Crank,Head and clutch(1 extra plate in the 600) all of which are allowed to be changed.The Honda might be a different story

[svr]

Nice bike Billy - Reminds me of Wazza's beast - 105 hp and 140 kg - probably the best F2 bike in NZ in the early 90's - never went as fast on his R6.
Q. Does that price include the Dork Tax?

[roadracingoldfart]

You had best have a look at the NZ Post Classic Register rules.
The most important item is: 'major component'.
You will find, I think, though I stand to be corrected (NOT) that the engine is likely to be considered to be a major component of a motorcycle.
This then means that if a model manufactured in or before 1989 had a 600cc engine in the same frame as the 400cc model then it is likely to be eligible.
However, just because the engine and frame are both from 1989 does not make the combination of the two meet the rule.

VMCC have typically taken their lead on Post Classic rules from the Post Classic guys as VMCC members tend not to be expert on those rules.

My own opinion, based on a gut feeling and not much else, is that such a bike, while it is likely to be pretty cool, is not in keeping with the spirit of the rule for competition.

Enjoy

Steve

Ahemmm , hello im Mr Ed
I had a couple of talks to Paul Stewart at MNZ and the Pres of the NZPCRR and as per the MNZ rule book, a bike is aged by the youngest "major component"which is either frame, engine , or swingarm. Within the pre 1989 period then mix and match as much as you like. BUT you must accept future rules adaptations to govern the class will mean its aged by that Youngest component.
EG; 1988 CBR400 with 1989 600cc engine will be classed as a 1989.
It makes no diff to the class unless it is as follows , 1988 CBR400 frame with 1981 2 stroke engine , Makes it pre 89 but it smells more.
This rule as im told was to allow for same model bikes with diff engine sizes in the same eras like CBX400 & 550s, you can use either frame as they are the same but the year of the frame was the age factor .
There ya go , clear as mud.

Cheers Paul.

[Billy]

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[Billy]

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Q. Does that price include the Dork Tax?[/QUOTE]

Yes,Price includes,DT,GST and if you were to buy it today I would through in an illegal SV rear subframe for another $4000.00.(batteries not included)

[scracha]

Check out our Pre 89 FZR 400/600 FOR SALE In the online trading section.Ready to go for the upcoming Actrix series

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?bikead=yes&p=1515607

That tail piece is a work of art.

[roadracingoldfart]

Thanks for clearing that up Paul,Wasnt all that helpful having some misinformed expert entering into a thread where you are trying to sell a bike and stating its not eligible for the stated class.One would hope that in future Mr Bagshaw would engage his brain before putting his mouth into gear and ensure he has his facts straight.By the way,Scracha came and picked up those forks and some other bits required too fit them to the Honda front end.If you get stuck fitting them just give me a call,I had that front end in my RS but theres a bit of mucking around to get it in there.Cheers Billy

Hell Billy , i am far from knowlegable (or goud at spulling) but i am old so i am what you may call " old school " when it comes to racing. Mr Bagshaw is also in this same group and he has vast experiance to call on with such things as memory crossed with bullshit just like me (and others ) .
I didnt intend to make Steve appear wrong but i make no apology for stating facts. I always try to find out rules from the rule book and if i dont understand the book i ask the assholes that wrote it , (MNZ) .
When i rang Paul Stewart he was also a bit unsure as NZPCRR run meetings and rules to thier own standards but he did know who to direct me to so i could clarify the rules of eligability. According the the guy (name escapes me) there is nothing wrong with a hybrid bike of any type as long as it fits the rules and in NZ the classics are almost all graded by age. Nice and simple and no room really for grey areas. Yhe onus on proof of age is on the rider / builder of the bike.
Steve , i hope you didnt deleate your posts due to what i said.

Thanks, Paul.

[bistard]

Stuff the tailor Clive ,
hell i will even loose the 400 cup on purpose if a couple of Hugh's girls will help me to into my outfit :woohoo:

But wait , a 600 cc powered 400 is not eligible is it ????? :confused:

Thats it . Im going to CBR 600 power my 400 now if thats ok

Come on you guys,get up with the play, I have been running a 600 for years now (Oh shit the cats out of the bag)
See you guys at the first round(now where did I put that 400 motor)

[Deano]

Given a decent pilot on the thing, Chris Sales doesn't stand a chance this year.

[Billy]

Given a decent pilot on the thing, Chris Sales doesn't stand a chance this year.

Actually Pete and Chris have the XR handling at last and hes going heaps faster on it now(Blitzed the Senior post classic feild @ Taupo by the length of the big straight on the long circuit).Add to that the fact they are building a CBR400/600(the engines already mounted)and they have aquired a set of 35mm flat slides so they can run it on methanol,I think young Chris will definitely be in the running

[Billy]

Hell Billy , i am far from knowlegable (or goud at spulling) but i am old so i am what you may call " old school " when it comes to racing. Mr Bagshaw is also in this same group and he has vast experiance to call on with such things as memory crossed with bullshit just like me (and others ) .
I didnt intend to make Steve appear wrong but i make no apology for stating facts. I always try to find out rules from the rule book and if i dont understand the book i ask the assholes that wrote it , (MNZ) .
When i rang Paul Stewart he was also a bit unsure as NZPCRR run meetings and rules to thier own standards but he did know who to direct me to so i could clarify the rules of eligability. According the the guy (name escapes me) there is nothing wrong with a hybrid bike of any type as long as it fits the rules and in NZ the classics are almost all graded by age. Nice and simple and no room really for grey areas. Yhe onus on proof of age is on the rider / builder of the bike.
Steve , i hope you didnt deleate your posts due to what i said.

Thanks, Paul.
Yeah I know where youre coming from Paul,I am also old school.Being in my 54th year and been roadracing since 1971 I am very aware of the way roadracing is run in this country and was very careful about who I spoke too regarding this bike and the RGV we built a couple of years ago.I think you will find having spoken to Steve regarding this thread,He most likely withdrew his posts due to my rather harsh comments more so than anything you said.We have since resolved the issue amicably and I will be withdrawing that post immediately

[roadracingoldfart]

Yeah I know where youre coming from Paul,I am also old school.Being in my 54th year and been roadracing since 1971 I am very aware of the way roadracing is run in this country and was very careful about who I spoke too regarding this bike and the RGV we built a couple of years ago.I think you will find having spoken to Steve regarding this thread,He most likely withdrew his posts due to my rather harsh comments more so than anything you said.We have since resolved the issue amicably and I will be withdrawing that post immediately


I guessed you were old school as you mentiond Robert (RD250 crash expert) Ryan lol. I know him well. Hell if you know him i may know you. I worked at Sawyers (dont tell anyone) and worked on his bike a wee bit.
Good to see you sorted the political stuff out too :doctor:

[roadracingoldfart]

Come on you guys,get up with the play, I have been running a 600 for years now (Oh shit the cats out of the bag)
See you guys at the first round(now where did I put that 400 motor)

Ohhh shit ...... the old pricks comin back lol. :scooter:
Bout time Barry , there is no excuse offered for your absence last year. :nono:
I always thought there was a bit much engine stickin out of your fairing, or was that crash damage showing.

C ya there and look out for the new (old) look on the bike with a much prettier rider to boot.

Paul.

[Billy]

This bike has now been sold,So look out for it at the Actrix series