NZ Roadbike

[Maha]

Something I have ben playing around with for a while now is the fact that there should be a Televison Programme dedicated exclusively to Roadbikes.
NZ ROADBIKE is the name of this 'yet to be' televised show.
I have people in mind (in mind is where all this at right now) to be apart of this.
There are enough shows about cars, and the odd bike thrown in somewhere but not a complete show.
The concept?.... A show about Motorbike's (sports/cruiser etc no off road)
I have in mind....Someone to front the show
I have in mind....A track where tests will be carried out
I have in mind....Two test riders
I have in mind....A hand full of knowledgeable people to offer their advice on all aspects of any bike (on camera)
I have a contact within the Television Industry
I would like to be a show about Purchasing (track testing comparative bikes).....'bang for buck'
A segment on 250's....new and older, best buy for a begginer. The good the Bad and the Ugly.
A segment on Bike Maintainance
A segment of veiwers emails..questions to be answered.
A segment on Bike gear.
Like I said at the beginning, this is all 'in mind' right now but im about to set the wheels in motion. I have alot to think about and what I have written about is a very broad overview of things, but you get the picture right?

[MIXONE]

It would be compulsory viewing in my house as long as coro isn't on at the same time.

[TLMAN]

Move over Jeremy Clarkson...........:soon:

[fergie]

im available to front the show, for my usual fee.

[007XX]

Oh I like!!!! :clap:

I would definitely keep watching something like that...Heck, there is never enough good bike related things on TV...although it may be a good thing, otherwise, we'd never go riding.

[NOMIS]

I agree would be a great show hmmm maybe some money to be made here can I jump on the band wagon?

[boostin]

It would be compulsory viewing in my house as long as coro isn't on at the same time.
Coro loop, right?

[The Stranger]

You going to allow Jap, Italian and American road bikes too, else it's going to be a very short show.

[T.I.E]

and who is your contact in TV land?
but if ya need any advice or if i may help in anyway let me know. and no im not wearing a skirt and holding an umbrella over the test bikes.
would be very interested to hear your views when i get back.

[Maha]

It would be compulsory viewing in my house as long as coro isn't on at the same time.

Senario for a show....eg
Two 600's to track test, rider is interviewed and goes through his thoughts of each bike.
A technical segment on suspension/tyres/brakes etc
A bit of time spent of gear...helmets/leather (one piece/two piece) gloves/boots....how much you can set yourself up etc
A cruiser segment....along the same lines as the sport bike segment but perhaps just one cruiser.
And of cause...answer questions

[007XX]

. and no im not wearing a skirt and holding an umbrella over the test bikes.
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And what is wrong with that? :angry: :whistle:

Hell, if there is money in it, I'll do it again...:D

[MIXONE]

And what is wrong with that? :angry: :whistle:

Hell, if there is money in it, I'll do it again...:D

Hell if there's money in it I'll join you.:2thumbsup

[hang0ver]

If you need someone to do the Audio Post, I could help you out there.

_-H-_

[Maha]

You going to allow Jap, Italian and American road bikes too, else it's going to be a very short show.

Anything goes Noel.....it about all road bikes...no off road stuff though.


and who is your contact in TV land?
but if ya need any advice or if i may help in anyway let me know. and no im not wearing a skirt and holding an umbrella over the test bikes.
would be very interested to hear your views when i get back.

We know a Producer......Anne knows an actor, a actress form since ages ago lives here in Warkworth, i see her at the 4sq regularly, she is still acting, but I am relying on the first two....what station would take this on?....Im picking not TV2/3.....and prime has enough shows about motoring stuff, but you never know. See ya when you get back Andrew.

[hang0ver]

Sorry, should have paid attention & seen that you're in Warkworth.

[007XX]

Senario for a show....eg
Two 600's to track test, rider is interviewed and goes through his thoughts of each bike.
A technical segment on suspension/tyres/brakes etc
A bit of time spent of gear...helmets/leather (one piece/two piece) gloves/boots....how much you can set yourself up etc
A cruiser segment....along the same lines as the sport bike segment but perhaps just one cruiser.
And of cause...answer questions

Hey...could we have a "Girls" section too? Pllleeaaaaasse.....even if it's not every episodes.


Hell if there's money in it I'll join you.:2thumbsup

Bet you you're cheaper than I though...:shifty: :laugh:

[Racer X]

Just make sure it's MORE: Top Gear and LESS: AA Motoring show

[stify]

maybe include a "fav biker eatin/watering stop" spot, or have an on tour segment with a couple of clowns showcasing some of the more fun stuff ya see around the sticks

[Maha]

Oh I like!!!! :clap:

I would definitely keep watching something like that...Heck, there is never enough good bike related things on TV...although it may be a good thing, otherwise, we'd never go riding.

My thoughts around it are....One very satisfying/insightful show for all bikers and for those that are on the verge of getting one, or hell, even the midlife change of events thing that happens to some people.


Hey...could we have a "Girls" section too? Pllleeaaaaasse.....even if it's not every episodes.



I will jot that down 'V'....a female part aye???....good thinking Bondy!.....:niceone:

[Rosie]

Would you only do the bike tests on a track? I imagine that road tests (in addition to track tests?) would be better at determining 'fitness for purpose' for a lot of bikes, and, after all, it would be a programme for road riders.

Travel type segments on places to go with your bike could be nice - featuring interesting roads, motorbike friendly food/accommodation etc. And this sort of thing could add a bit of general-interest flavour, to increase awareness/interest from non-motorcyclists.

Would adventure/gravel riding be included as road riding? Or would it be a tar-seal-only programme? You could come up with some very scenic test rides/travel segments/whatever by including a bit of gravel.

[onearmedbandit]

Sounds like a great idea. I'd definitely be tuning in.

[007XX]

My thoughts around it are....One very satisfying/insightful show for all bikers and for those that are on the verge of getting one, or hell, even the midlife change of events thing that happens to some people.

I like it! :niceone: Unbiaised and insightful...can't wait to see how to comes out.


I will jot that down 'V'....a female part aye???....good thinking Bondy!.....:niceone:

Why thank you...I'm sure I could come up with a few more thing if / when you're keen. Maybe a brainstorming around a couple of cold ones? I'd be dead keen to help...

[Maha]

Would you only do the bike tests on a track? I imagine that road tests (in addition to track tests?) would be better at determining 'fitness for purpose' for a lot of bikes, and, after all, it would be a programme for road riders.

Travel type segments on places to go with your bike could be nice - featuring interesting roads, motorbike friendly food/accommodation etc. And this sort of thing could add a bit of general-interest flavour, to increase awareness/interest from non-motorcyclists.

Would adventure/gravel riding be included as road riding? Or would it be a tar-seal-only programme? You could come up with some very scenic test rides/travel segments/whatever by including a bit of gravel.

Thank you Rosie.. idealy yes...track only, would want the bikes tested at more than road legal speed. Travel segment?... no resson why not, I have written down 'Tour rides'... but wasn't to sure. As for gravel/off the beaten track riding?.... no at this stage, but that doesnt mean it cant be introduced depending on demand.

[NOMIS]

Hell if there's money in it I'll join you.:2thumbsup

HEY I SAID IT FIRST!!!

[chubby]

How about travel friendly motels and hotels where they can offer some motorbike protection as you review some classic road rallys. A plug to let hotelliers know there is a motorbike community who will use if its available.

mmmmm when you say more top gear than AA motoring do you mean a fifth gear type show??

Changes to the law are topical

Even some funding from ACC on the ride skills segment

oh the list goes on... and make it fun and breezy lol... but you knew that eh.

[NOMIS]

take a page out of topgears book. look at everything not just top spec. but make it special when you do.

[FilthyLuka]

I can provide some mechanical insight and viciously Un-PC remarks

[Horse]

One of the reasons (among many) for Top Gear's success (imo, others may disagree) is that they're quite happy to call a car "rubbish" if they don't like it.

In NZ's small market, a show like this is very hard to make without significant support from the bike manufacturers and dealers. The networks are not going to front up with the full production budget (if any), so sponsorship becomes a key element (look at the DIY & Real Estate shows).

Of course, it then becomes very hard to criticise one of your sponsor's products - and the audience will know it. IMO authenticity is the key to a show like this, and the hardest bit to get right in NZ's production climate.

[007XX]

Getting sponsorship organised would be good too, to have possible giveaways...


I bet that a few stores around NZ wouldn't mind?!? :blip: :whistle: Not talking of anyone in particular of course...

[007XX]

One of the reasons (among many) for Top Gear's success (imo, others may disagree) is that they're quite happy to call a car "rubbish" if they don't like it.


Very valid point...however, surely it is possible to make a decent show without making a "motorbike Top Gear"...Maha's just got to find the right tone for the show...I don't think he's interested in making a replica of anything else. It would be a big mistake to try to imitate anyone.

[nodrog]

is there a spot for a skinny mad cunt on this show?

[Marmoot]

NZ ROADBIKE is the name of this 'yet to be' televised show.

There goes down the plan in a blaze of glory......... :pinch:

[Maha]

Getting sponsorship organised would be good too, to have possible giveaways...


I bet that a few stores around NZ wouldn't mind?!? :blip: :whistle: Not talking of anyone in particular of course...


Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, :shifty:
Yes you may find that written down in my little book somewhere...think tank remember?
I need a show taped ready to go, not just an idea, TV execs wont buy an idea......will they?....:confused:

[007XX]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh, :shifty:
Yes you may find that written down in my little book somewhere...think tank remember?
I need a show taped ready to go, not just an idea, TV execs wont buy an idea......will they?....:confused:

:pinch: sorry...*speaks very quietly now...*

The little I have had to do with TV, the more prepared you are, the better...and you got to be very patient and persevere, talking to shit load of people. Oh and also, you got to sell ice cream to esquimos...you'll be fine!

[Oakie]

In NZ's small market, a show like this is very hard to make without significant support from the bike manufacturers and dealers.

which as mentioned makes it hard to criticise their product. Perhaps a potential sponsor would come from the products bikers use that aren't necessarily bike related .... e.g.
> an alcohol brand (Jim Beam, JD) even though there may be a conflict with road safety
> fast food 'KFC', 'Burger King' etc. (Perhaps our use of the BK Moorhouse carpark as the meeting place for our Wednesday Night Rides might pay dividends)
> An oil company e.g. 'Mobil'.

Good luck with it. It sounds like a great idea.

[Mully]

One of the reasons (among many) for Top Gear's success (imo, others may disagree) is that they're quite happy to call a car "rubbish" if they don't like it.

Of course, it then becomes very hard to criticise one of your sponsor's products - and the audience will know it. IMO authenticity is the key to a show like this, and the hardest bit to get right in NZ's production climate.

There is, of course, a theory in which there are no bad bikes (excluding the badly made Chinese stuff), only bikes suited for one particular purpose. Testing a Harley on a track, meh. Same with testing a Fireblade on a tour. Sure you can do it, but it's not much fun.

The Top Gear guys will rip into a Vauxhall, but the Vauxhall may be perfect for the job it's meant to be doing. You don't have to stir up controversy to get viewer.


which as mentioned makes it hard to criticise their product. Perhaps a potential sponsor would come from the products bikers use that aren't necessarily bike related .... e.g.
> an alcohol brand (Jim Beam, JD) even though there may be a conflict with road safety
> fast food 'KFC', 'Burger King' etc. (Perhaps our use of the BK Moorhouse carpark as the meeting place for our Wednesday Night Rides might pay dividends)
> An oil company e.g. 'Mobil'.


I'd avoid a fast food company - the wowsers these days would be complaining that you were promoting their children getting fat.

Is there any chance of getting Bronz involved?? Bronz could get sponsorship from the manufacturers directly and funnel it into the show. Sort of indirect manufacturer sponsorship. Could avoid potential conflicts.....

[Mom]

Oh and also, you got to sell ice cream to esquimos...you'll be fine!

Should be fine on that score...I am probably responsible for a part of global warming, with the amount of ice I have sold for the inuit to melt..LOL




Good luck with it. It sounds like a great idea.

Thanks mate. This is a first strike if you like, just to see what the feeling about it may be. Sponsorship will be a big part of funding the show of course. Remember there are some laws these days around certain products being used to promote anything. We obviously will be restricted by them.

[MIXONE]

One of Top Gears main attractions is the pisstake element which gets non petrolheads interested.Very hard to accomplish here in NZ without pissing off the bikeshops/greenies/OSH/(fill in the blank).Let's face it we are so pc that if you say you're wrong/I disagree/that's shit it would be hard to keep sponsors on board.A very narrow plank to negotiate.Sincere good luck and if you ever need a roving reporter give me a yell(non pc but)

[Clivoris]

Much power to you. I hope that it happens.

[JMemonic]

Good luck with this project, I do hope you manage to pull it off but please do not do as others have done and limit its view to just one region of NZ. Perhaps a segment on the good roads to travel in both islands.

[xgnr]

I had a great idea once... A Fishing Show....

"No one will watch it" was the response... sigh

Cheers

Stu

[Clivoris]

Perhaps a segment on the good roads to travel in both islands.

Waiheke hasn't got many good roads at all. I can't see why he'd bother.:pinch:

[The Pastor]

track test the new 250's vs the old ones just for shits n giggles :)

[The Stranger]

is there a spot for a skinny mad cunt on this show?

Squidmark aint going to leave a good impression.

[Cr1MiNaL]

A bit of posing, says you ! Whose the biggest poser in Auckland <-------- :yes:

[JMemonic]

Waiheke hasn't got many good roads at all. I can't see why he'd bother.:pinch:

Please someone clip Clivoris on the side of the head for me:spanking::lol:

[Bonez]

Senario for a show....eg
Two 600's to track test, rider is interviewed and goes through his thoughts of each bike.
A technical segment on suspension/tyres/brakes etc
A bit of time spent of gear...helmets/leather (one piece/two piece) gloves/boots....how much you can set yourself up etc
A cruiser segment....along the same lines as the sport bike segment but perhaps just one cruiser.
And of cause...answer questionsDon't forget retros or nakids you know the bikes that fit somewhere in between sport bikes and cruisers, also tourers, adventure bikes(not all roads are sealed), the list goes on.........................

[Kornholio]

Hell if there's money in it I'll join you.:2thumbsup

Ill do it for free au :D

Im also avaliable to host the show as well :clap:

[Maha]

Don't forget retros or nakids you know the bikes that fit somewhere in between sport bikes and cruisers, also tourers, adventure bikes(not all roads are sealed), the list goes on.........................

Spoke to some very keen and influensual people last night, and they are now part of the 'think tank'...there is so much more than can be done with this than what I first thought.


Ill do it for free au :D

Im also avaliable to host the show as well :clap:

I already have a camera friendly person whos at the top of the list Rick, but if he/she does not want the job then I will come knocking....Olivia is better looking than you aye???....:rolleyes:

[Maha]

There has been a very good suggestion for a 'Female Segment' from time to time, test riding and so on.....I listened to what was said and see it now as, 'not strickley from a blokes angle'.
Some name's have been mentioned re the input and make up of such a programme, I am very incouraged by all of this.

[CHOPPA]

Spot on just what we need! Maybe a segment on racing as well....... Also if you need a test rider ill pay you haha

[quickbuck]

Spot on just what we need! Maybe a segment on racing as well....... Also if you need a test rider ill pay you haha

Yes, hopefully this will be a show that can do an article about the kiwis in MotoGP etc.
You wouldn't know they were there if there wasn't a great article in a magazine recently! Tops to that mag...

[Bonez]

Yes, hopefully this will be a show that can do an article about the kiwis in MotoGP etc.
You wouldn't know they were there if there wasn't a great article in a magazine recently! Tops to that mag...It's amazing what you find out in the toilets ah?

[bmz2]

There has been a very good suggestion for a 'Female Segment' from time to time, test riding and so on.....I listened to what was said and see it now as, 'not strickley from a blokes angle'.
Some name's have been mentioned re the input and make up of such a programme, I am very incouraged by all of this.

someone mention Cruisers , i,m in for that , when do we start:cool::banana:

[Duc]

I tried to get something similar (with a twist) going for TV two years ago.

Very difficult getting any co operation or input from any NZ television channel. They are simply not interested in "ideas or creative". Its all about bean-counting to them. in fact. They are fecking hopeless and I am in the industry where I know I am not alone in my opinion.

You will be asked to present a budget as first step. Prepare your self for a very frustrating process.

Good luck and hopefully you can succeed. ( I gave up with them but have developed a different approach)

[NighthawkNZ]

then you can reports on the various rallies, track days, even organised rides...

[EJK]

Good idea...
I'll be definitely watching it :yes:

[Maha]

Yes, hopefully this will be a show that can do an article about the kiwis in MotoGP etc.
You wouldn't know they were there if there wasn't a great article in a magazine recently! Tops to that mag...


I have the Format of the show clearly in my mind and for a half hour show all suggestions so far can not be covered, however, in saying that, all suggestions are being noted and if the format can be altered then ok. At this stage, I know exactly how I would want the show to come accross and a meeting of the 'Think Tank' in the coming weeks will chew it over so that we come with NZ Roadbike's final format.

[Maha]

I tried to get something similar (with a twist) going for TV two years ago.

Very difficult getting any co operation or input from any NZ television channel. They are simply not interested in "ideas or creative". Its all about bean-counting to them. in fact. They are fecking hopeless and I am in the industry where I know I am not alone in my opinion.

You will be asked to present a budget as first step. Prepare your self for a very frustrating process.

Good luck and hopefully you can succeed. ( I gave up with them but have developed a different approach)


I will take any knock backs and turn them into determination. I fully understand TV execs wont accept ideas, thats why I (I hope that will turn into an 'we' before showtime) hope to be showing them a Pilot show of the series. This wont be presented half arsed, The resoruce of skills within our reach includes all aspects of business planning/finacial management and have access to a sucessfull production company and we are taking advice in other areas.

[Maha]

maybe include a "fav biker eatin/watering stop" spot, or have an on tour segment with a couple of clowns showcasing some of the more fun stuff ya see around the sticks


Now I like this idea, you may have just blerted out the format for the 'Biker stop' segment Mark, There is some stuff I dont want on the show but this I like...

[geoffm]

Some decent tech segments woudl be nice. Doens't usually make high rating TV though - look at the pimp my (dog/car/bike/woman...) type shows. Shallower than Paris Hilton when the tide's out...
G

[Swoop]

There used to be a programme on Triangle TV, in 2005, all about bikes.
Just look at what is being produced with 3CCD cameras nowadays. All of the "fishing" type shows!
The best TV programme made on a small budget and appealing to viewers, that has aired recently, has to be "Backpackers" (C4tv). Funny, entertaining, informative, able to take the piss out of themselves!

A "top tip" (like at the end of Gone Fishing)?

5th Gear? Why compare a bike with a bloody cage ffs??? Honestly.:angry:

A great idea Maha. May it come to fruition!

[Swoop]

Also...

Would the programme review scooters?
They are bikes that are used on the road, after all.


There is a serious market for these and it may encourage a greater viewer base and also encourage progression from scooters onto "bigger" bikes of all types.


Another segment. The :Police:. A little bit about "the rules". Just thinking about Bill Hohepa's programme where he has a quick chat with a fisheries officer.

[Maha]

Also...

Would the programme review scooters?
They are bikes that are used on the road, after all.


There is a serious market for these and it may encourage a greater viewer base and also encourage progression from scooters onto "bigger" bikes of all types.


Another segment. The :Police:. A little bit about "the rules". Just thinking about Bill Hohepa's programme where he has a quick chat with a fisheries officer.

No...no scooter stuff or stunts, this show is for Mature Men and Women (pt) not into wasting time. I have limits. Yes scooters are road bike's (at a pinch) I have nothing against them but there will be no room for them for what I have in mind.
You other idea though?....'Top Tip'....I like.

[quickbuck]

It's amazing what you find out in the toilets ah?

Na, actually at the AFCC ;)

We still have FHM's from when I was a skin in the Boggas here....
The People and Pictures have vanished though.... although there may be one in my bottom draw.

some things just don't change.... Oh, and spegetti jettis still fill the hanger.

You guessed it bonez, back to hte Engine bay for me... Just Helo engines these days.

As you all were people, back to maha man's idea.