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dangerous
11th April 2008, 17:37
Well, yet again big changes... just after we get used to Avon City Ford being a Suzuki dealer, I find out there is about to be a bloody big new HONDA dealer.

They will be selling all things Honda from a lawn mower to a 4x4 and CBR1000, and Casbolts will remain with Honda too, LOL good luck there.
Changes have already started, and it will be good to see one of ChCh's origional Honda dealers back.

Skyryder
11th April 2008, 18:18
Well, yet again big changes... just after we get used to Avon City Ford being a Suzuki dealer, I find out there is about to be a bloody big new HONDA dealer.

They will be selling all things Honda from a lawn mower to a 4x4 and CBR1000, and Casbolts will remain with Honda too, LOL good luck there.
Changes have already started, and it will be good to see one of ChCh's origional Honda dealers back.

Your'e not thinking of selling that Guzzi I hope.

Skyryder

AllanB
11th April 2008, 18:22
Come on more info

Who, where, how, when and I can guess why!!!!!

Last time there was two was around 25 years ago - Blue Wing I think it was - the old guy in the parts knew everything about Hondas...... good times.

dangerous
11th April 2008, 18:22
Your'e not thinking of selling that Guzzi I hope.

Skyryder

man, always thinking of that... but nope wont be happening any time soon, altho I did check out the new 120hp 8v griso today hot hot hot

dangerous
11th April 2008, 18:24
Come on more info

Who, where, how, when and I can guess why!!!!!

Last time there was two was around 25 years ago - Blue Wing I think it was - the old guy in the parts knew everything about Hondas...... good times.

Blue Wing is the NZ importer.. you are thinking of Whiting Honda, and no it ait them :wari:

T.W.R
11th April 2008, 18:32
Happer's at Dunsandel are branching out :lol::lol:

Either that or Robin has said fark that with the euro trash bring back the big red H :laugh:

dangerous
11th April 2008, 18:34
Happer's at Dunsandel are branching out :lol::lol:

Either that or Robin has said fark that with the euro trash bring back the big red H :laugh:

who at where?

Robin, mate Nevile is the hard case nice old bastard him... Robin always wants to sell ya shit... but you are on to it (would give rep if I could but cant when infracted)

AllanB
11th April 2008, 18:37
Whiting Honda - that was them!

Honda Otago could set up in Christchurch - they sell plenty here already - I've purchased two bikes off them and know of another couple as well recently.

Its all about the best deal - and they have been happy to deliver free.

Kickaha
11th April 2008, 18:37
Come on more info

Who, where, how, when and I can guess why!!!!!

Last time there was two was around 25 years ago - Blue Wing I think it was - the old guy in the parts knew everything about Hondas...... good times.

It was a lot less than 25 years ago (Whitings) and don't forget there was also Hollands at one stage

T.W.R
11th April 2008, 18:50
who at where?

Robin, mate Nevile is the hard case nice old bastard him... Robin always wants to sell ya shit... but you are on to it (would give rep if I could but cant when infracted)


Happer's Honda :blink: the Honda dealership at Dunsandel between the tea-rooms & store on the main road (used to be a servo years ago).

Robin changes flavours like the wind :whistle: how many different marques in the last 20yrs ? I can think of 5 major brands they've carried :crazy:

Doesn't worry us :clap: we're just :buggerd: Norjo's & Superior for sales :2thumbsup

T.W.R
11th April 2008, 18:52
It was a lot less than 25 years ago (Whitings) and don't forget there was also Hollands at one stage

25 yrs ago there were 4 Honda dealerships in ChCh :pinch: Casbolts, Whiting, Holland's, & Hornby. Whiting closed up in mid 93

dangerous
11th April 2008, 18:53
It was a lot less than 25 years ago (Whitings) and don't forget there was also Hollands at one stage
fuck man, next you will be remembering Casbolts on the corner of Regent and Gloster :devil2: shit I remember when they had the 1st new RC30 in the window yeeeeeeeeee OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhh za



Whiting Honda - that was them!

Honda Otago could set up in Christchurch - they sell plenty here already - I've purchased two bikes off them and know of another couple as well recently.

Its all about the best deal - and they have been happy to deliver free.

no mate not about best deal... but best PR... and amy one that has dealed with the local chch Honda dealer knows they lack it big time, christ I spent 17k there one day the next day the old bastard charged me full price on a can of chain lube... all $14.50 of it.
The average Jo was more than happy to deal with the Duners crowd, but they know longer deal with Honda... dont mater the new Chch dealer will clean up.

dangerous
11th April 2008, 18:57
25 yrs ago there were 4 Honda dealerships in ChCh :pinch: Casbolts, Whiting, Holland's, & Hornby. Whiting closed up in mid 93

yip... fuck bikes was a strong thing back then... Tommies Yamaha and Creswell and... shit who was the other zookie dealer? Norjos was alive and well in Ricarton.

merv
11th April 2008, 19:11
So you going to tell us who?

As for Whitings I knew it when it was Whiting and Waltho and old Mrs Whiting was the main "man" on parts and she'd still give me student discount years after I'd finished Uni - and her old man was always dressed in a long coat a bit like a lab tech. I presume they closed because sadly at their age I doubt any of them live on this earth any more. What I could never believe is the old girl always had the parts in stock that I wanted even the minute trivia, but that was before overnight couriers.

I lived in ChCh from 73-78 and initially Tommy's was Suzuki then changed to Yamaha - never knew why as they weren't such a popular brand then.

T.W.R
11th April 2008, 19:13
yip... fuck bikes was a strong thing back then... Tommies Yamaha and Creswell and... shit who was the other zookie dealer? Norjos was alive and well in Ricarton.

lols man there was:

Tommy's Yamaha
McCleary Motorcycles (Tommy's brother Kevin)
Monarch Yamaha
Doug Creswell's
Eric Wood's
Casbolts
Whiting
Holland's
Hornby
Pacific Motorcycles
Norjo's
ChCh motorcycles
Bland Brothers
John Boot
then the lesser more dodgy ones were about too :shutup:

Tommy started where Eric Woods was
Eric Woods started where Monarch used to be
Tommy sold Suzuki before Yamaha
Norjo's sold Suzuki before they sold Kawasaki
ChCh Motorcycles started out selling Suzuki
Pacific started the Jap import gig
Bland Brothers where Euro importers
John Boot dealt in anything but had some gems
Creswells had the best Mechs in town :Punk: (Eddie McCann was a wizard)

laRIKin
11th April 2008, 19:22
lols man there was:

Tommy's Yamaha
McCleary Motorcycles (Tommy's brother Kevin)
Monarch Yamaha
Doug Creswell's
Eric Wood's
Casbolts
Whiting
Holland's
Hornby
Pacific Motorcycles
Norjo's
ChCh motorcycles
Bland Brothers
John Boot
then the lesser more dodgy ones were about too :shutup:

Tommy started where Eric Woods was
Eric Woods started where Monarch used to be
Tommy sold Suzuki before Yamaha
Norjo's sold Suzuki before they sold Kawasaki
ChCh Motorcycles started out selling Suzuki
Pacific started the Jap import gig
Bland Brothers where Euro importers
John Boot dealt in anything but had some gems
Creswells had the best Mechs in town :Punk: (Eddie McCann was a wizard)

You forgot
Jacks Yamaha
Monarch Yamaha
Kevin Mc Cleary
Rex Russell Motor Cycles
Christchurch Motor Cycles
Pacific Motor Cycles

And a few small shops like Steve Vi-kers (wrong spelling)

T.W.R
11th April 2008, 19:35
You forgot
Jacks Yamaha
Monarch Yamaha
Kevin Mc Cleary
Rex Russell Motor Cycles
Christchurch Motor Cycles
Pacific Motor Cycles

And a few small shops like Steve Vi-kers (wrong spelling)

:spanking: off to the optometrist for you :bleh:

Rex Russell was more of a motorcycle engineering shop than sales.

KG motorcycles too but more of a basic workshop place
Allparts sold 2nd hand stuff plus 2nd parts (wreckers)
Best Motorcycles
and the other one next door (like a wee boutique shop) both just down from Whiting's
The wee shop at the intersection of Clyde Rd/Memorial Ave/Fendalton Rd

onearmedbandit
11th April 2008, 19:57
Sheesh, I feel old, I remember a lot of those dealers.

laRIKin
11th April 2008, 20:05
Oops read and typed and thought I was on a roll and forgot to check.
Red wine and trying to do three things at once.:slap:

You still for got Jacks Yamaha.:baby:

Who was the bike shop that was next to Eric Woods if it was not Rex Russell?
They sold Brit bikes had a oily wooden floor and you had to walk up a ramp.
Eric Woods is now on their on site.

T.W.R
11th April 2008, 20:11
Who was the bike shop that was next to Eric Woods if it was not Rex Russell?
They sold Brit bikes had a oily wooden floor and you had to walk up a ramp.
Eric Woods is now on their on site.

Bond & Hockley ??? or were they where Creswell's were?

dangerous
11th April 2008, 20:14
So you going to tell us who?

As for Whitings I knew it when it was Whiting and Waltho and old Mrs Whiting was the main "man" on parts and she'd still give me student discount years after I'd finished Uni - and her old man was always dressed in a long coat a bit like a lab tech. I presume they closed because sadly at their age I doubt any of them live on this earth any more. What I could never believe is the old girl always had the parts in stock that I wanted even the minute trivia, but that was before overnight couriers.

I lived in ChCh from 73-78 and initially Tommy's was Suzuki then changed to Yamaha - never knew why as they weren't such a popular brand then.

hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa... man your explaination of Whitings is so accurate, how come back then it was on the shelf but these days its X Japan.
I dont remember Tommys being zookie but then again you left in 78, I was 10... yet 7yrs later nothing had changed at Whitings... I love it.

orangeback
11th April 2008, 20:17
what about Best M/C thats now sports zone

dangerous
11th April 2008, 20:18
Steve Vi-kers (wrong spelling)

Steve Vickers... wanted by many, yip he had a good sized shop on Morehouse, was into his 750 Kawa Turb's. now lives in the US cos hed be locked up or dead if he returned.

As for the oil soaked shop floor place.. you fuckers are older than me, you win.

onearmedbandit
11th April 2008, 20:20
I remember going in to Whitings one day to get a clutch cable for my SL125. They let me go upstairs (I think it was) and rifle through boxes of cables until I found the right one. I remember the white lab coat as well.

laRIKin
11th April 2008, 20:25
Bond & Hockley ??? or were they where Creswell's were?

Not Bond and Hockley and there was another shop as well Blair Carpenter Motor Cycles or were they the same with different owners.
I thought the shop next to Eric Woods was Rex Russell's and then moved or closed down that shop and went back to a engineering shop that worked on bikes.

dangerous
11th April 2008, 20:28
ok ok ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh k... who remembers John Whites shop on Sawers Arms road and his drop kick sons shop 2 doors from Jacks Yamaha?

BTW... Hampton motor companys new dealership is Honda, MG and Aparila is history.

So yeah the return of HORNBY HONDA has arived.

laRIKin
11th April 2008, 20:29
Steve Vickers... wanted by many, yip he had a good sized shop on Morehouse, was into his 750 Kawa Turb's. now lives in the US cos hed be locked up or dead if he returned.

We also had a shop in Columbo St first.
He had to skip the country to go to Oz as he owned money.
I knew a guy that was looking after his racing car.
Boy he was into every thing, drag bikes and cars and boats.

laRIKin
11th April 2008, 20:33
ok ok ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh k... who remembers John Whites shop on Sawers Arms road and his drop kick sons shop 2 doors from Jacks Yamaha?

Jacks was on Oxford Tce between Lichfield St and Hereford St

T.W.R
11th April 2008, 20:35
Not Bond and Hockley and there was another shop as well Blair Carpenter Motor Cycles or were they the same with different owners.
I thought the shop next to Eric Woods was Rex Russell's and then moved or closed down that shop and went back to a engineering shop that worked on bikes.

Just had a headbang with my Aunt :shutup: Don't worry she's an OLD biker from WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY Back and yeah it was Rex Russell


ok ok ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh k... who remembers John Whites shop on Sawers Arms road and his drop kick sons shop 2 doors from Jacks Yamaha?

BTW... Hampton motor companys new dealership is Honda, MG and Aparila is history.

So yeah the return of HORNBY HONDA has arived.

:doobey: Told ya Robin changes flavour like the wind :first:

lol John White, now he could make a Trident hustle :headbang: #175, or Lindsay Williamson on BLACKADDER :love:

dangerous
11th April 2008, 20:36
Jacks was on Oxford Tce between Lichfield St and Hereford St

no.. I remember them on Colombo in the shop thats now a push bike shop.

remember youi are olde than me LeMans... by a long shot hahahahahahah.... :2thumbsup

JMemonic
11th April 2008, 20:37
Well, yet again big changes... just after we get used to Avon City Ford being a Suzuki dealer

Squeeze me ?? are they a bike dealer D? Its not listed on either Suzuki's web site or Avon City Fords, I only as as I in the hunt for a new bike.

T.W.R
11th April 2008, 20:38
what about Best M/C thats now sports zone

They started out around the corner on St Asaph :msn-wink:

dangerous
11th April 2008, 20:39
Squeeze me ?? are they a bike dealer D? Its not listed on either Suzuki's web site or Avon City Fords, I only as as I in the hunt for a new bike.

work still in progress, they are building as we speek.

JMemonic
11th April 2008, 20:42
work still in progress, they are building as we speek.

Sweet, cheers this could come in a winner for me, I really hate having the back still as a ongoing repair, I just want to get out and do some test riding.:drool:

laRIKin
11th April 2008, 20:42
no.. I remember them on Colombo in the shop thats now a push bike shop.

remember youi are olde than me LeMans... by a long shot hahahahahahah.... :2thumbsup

Wrong as I use to go there and bought a bike or two off them.
And they were in Oxford Tce and Ian (Jungle) Mc Gregor use to run the shop and the owners son was Brent ?? was a mechanic and a good racer also A.J and Allan Mandson a good speed way rider worked there as well.

Rashika
11th April 2008, 20:44
farrrkk you lot are so OLD!!!!! :shutup:

T.W.R
11th April 2008, 20:47
Ian (Jungle) Mc Gregor

Jungle was only called 'Jungle' by his close friends lols, King of the Milkbar Cowboys :shutup: The oldman knew him well

JMemonic
11th April 2008, 20:48
I remember most of the aforementioned shops even though I was a wee nipper with regards to some of them. Cool to drag out some of those names from the memory banks.

laRIKin
11th April 2008, 20:48
farrrkk you lot are so OLD!!!!! :shutup:

Children should be seen and not heard.:bleh:

laRIKin
11th April 2008, 21:00
Found a old post of mine about Hamptons.

Read the last line.
From what I have heard, they have not sold one new Guzzi.
In saying that I think Rocky bought his of them or did he buy it from Thunder Bikes?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1217219&postcount=13

MVnut
11th April 2008, 21:17
Bloody Hell 'D', that's old news, didja buy yesterdays newspaper or sumptin??Bwahahahahahahahaha:apint:

AllanB
11th April 2008, 22:12
Norjo Motors - down Colombo Street around from Kilmore - got two bikes from there (that was 25 yrs ago!). Spags Pizza was on the Kilmore Colombo corner.

I remember that oily floor and ramp - unsure who though I think I was pretty young.

Hamptons eh. They had BMW years ago (got it off Norjos). Honda cars (imports) for years. Now sell European car imports, Guzzi.

Bikes have not been big for them (yet). They will do OK there with the rural crowd. But to me if you want to launch a street bike brand in CHCH hit Manchester Street - or bloody close. Man it hums on a Saturday morning. Bikes everywhere.

Good luck to them I say - I might pop in there on the Hornet for a visit one weekend soon.

They keeping Guzzi? Who's picking up Aprilia?

AllanB
11th April 2008, 22:18
And there was Paul Easterbrook motors - Eastercrook a friend called him!
Up behind the railwayline in Papanui. Around 1982.

T.W.R
11th April 2008, 22:28
Norjo Motors - down Colombo Street around from Kilmore - got two bikes from there (that was 25 yrs ago!). Spags Pizza was on the Kilmore Colombo corner.

I remember that oily floor and ramp - unsure who though I think I was pretty young.

Hamptons eh. They had BMW years ago (got it off Norjos). Honda cars (imports) for years. Now sell European car imports, Guzzi.

Bikes have not been big for them (yet). They will do OK there with the rural crowd. But to me if you want to launch a street bike brand in CHCH hit Manchester Street - or bloody close. Man it hums on a Saturday morning. Bikes everywhere.

Good luck to them I say - I might pop in there on the Hornet for a visit one weekend soon.

They keeping Guzzi? Who's picking up Aprilia?

WTF??? think you've got Norjo's confused with someone else;
70s to mid 80s they were at the Clyde Rd lights on Riccarton Rd, from there they went to the corner of Clarence St & Blenheim Rd after that they moved to just by the entrance of Wigram airbase and from there to where they are at present.

Hampton's European were Hornby Honda then Hornby Yamaha then included the BMW dealership and progressed to being Hampton motorcourt and presently Hampton European, started in the Branston Buildings where the Pizzahut outlet is now then moved around the corner (where the clothing outlet store is) then moved to their present site.

AllanB
11th April 2008, 22:36
Nope I'm not wrong re Norjos. I purchased a Z440 in 81 from their shop in Colombo St and opened the crate with them on my new Z750 twin in 1983 ($3999) - same location. I remember oh oh oh over the Z1000 (blue silver square tank one - J model I think) in there as well.

The shop was small and to get to the workshop you rode down a very narrow drive (more like a hall!) between the showroom and next store.

Somewhere in one of my draws is the purchase agreement for the 750.

Went from there to Ric road shortly after 83 as most of the 750's servicing was done in Riccarton.

True story.

T.W.R
11th April 2008, 22:46
Nope I'm not wrong re Norjos. I purchased a Z440 in 81 from their shop in Colombo St and opened the crate with them on my new Z750 twin in 1983 ($3999) - same location. I remember oh oh oh over the Z1000 (blue silver square tank one - J model I think) in there as well.

The shop was small and to get to the workshop you rode down a very narrow drive (more like a hall!) between the showroom and next store.

Somewhere in one of my draws is the purchase agreement for the 750.

Went from there to Ric road shortly after 83 as most of the 750's servicing was done in Riccarton.

True story.

Beg to differ bud as I was racing MX in 1980 and Baden Leighton was my Mechanic & a close family friend and worked at Norjos along with Craig Willis, John Hughes, Mike ?? (nickname Blood & Guts) and they were there on Riccarton Rd then ;)

Also Paul Easterbrook was out at Fernside (Rangiora) at the same time as we used to get the Marshalling gear & other items from the shop for the meeting that used to be held at the Sefton circuit. The shop was just on the bend in the road heading into Rangiora just further towards rangi from where Bob McCleary is now.
Your right though in one respect there was a wee bike shop in on one of the back streets just off Papanui Rd in the mid 80s

T.W.R
11th April 2008, 23:00
When Norjo's were on Riccarton Rd, the driveway to the workshop was tight as it ran along the back wall of the distribution wharehoue on the corner of Riccarton Rd & Wharenui Rd and on the other side of the store was a 2nd car dealership. Brought a lot of gear there over the years including the Leather Jacket I still have now and that was in 1988, used to pas the place & drool at the bikes when I was going to Kirkwood Intermediate too

AllanB
11th April 2008, 23:18
Man - now you made me search through my draws!

Alan Norfork co-owned it (Nor part of name). A young Geoff Bond was in parts.

It appears my Z440 was new in 82, purchased from Norjo Motors 834 Colombo Street - I remember they sold 3 at the same time - all red and when I collected mine all three were lined up in a row with just the last digit on the number plates different!

Purchase document for the Z750 (20.9.1983) - 834 Colombo Street. And I tell you you remember opening the crate on your new bike - they were made of wood in those days.

First service for the 750 - 500 kms (30.9.1983) 10 days later ! 834 Colombo Street on receipt.

Next receipt - 15.11.1983 - 239 Riccarton Rd and Ric Rd thereafter.

Of interest:

One hours labour in 1983 was $18

4 litres of oil $14.40

Rear tyre $119

WOF $3.25

Sounds bloody cheap but on a earning per purchase ratio things are cheaper now.

This one hurts - 12 months rego $44.75 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ah the old days eh.

AllanB
11th April 2008, 23:25
When Norjo's were on Riccarton Rd, the driveway to the workshop was tight as it ran along the back wall of the distribution wharehoue on the corner of Riccarton Rd & Wharenui Rd and on the other side of the store was a 2nd car dealership.

Correct the car dealer was the first to start importing used Jap cars in CHCH - had the funny stick out bonnet mirrors back then! Heaps of red 323 Madzas.

Easterbrook was that dealer out the back streets in Papanui - he moved to Rangioroa. :-)

I suspect I may be a couple of years older than you??? Born in 1965 (shut-up you young ones).

T.W.R
11th April 2008, 23:27
:lol: You're starting to annoy me now :spanking:

Look go do yourself a favour and get your dates right :pinch:
go and have a talk to Allan tomorrow he's bound to be at work (the hazardous chemicals store behind Norjo's current site).
Or if you want I could get John Hughes to verify the dates I'm stating the next time he calls into work; he the travelling salesman for ELF oils at the moment and was the TS for Darbi accessories.
Or I could call into Baden's place over the weekend and get him to verify dates.

on a side note too the square tank silver blue Z1000 your talking about is a Z1R circa 1978-79 next model was the Z1R MKII 1981 which was black & had the larger capacity tank :rolleyes:

TygerTung
11th April 2008, 23:30
Maybe the reason Hamptons is not doing too well is that it is not very obvious that it is a motorcycle shop?

Paulus
11th April 2008, 23:34
We also had a shop in Columbo St first.
He had to skip the country to go to Oz as he owned money.
I knew a guy that was looking after his racing car.
Boy he was into every thing, drag bikes and cars and boats.

Was he in Southside Kawasaki with Nigel Woods (now at Superior)? Wasn't there a Lotus Esprit Turbo involved there somewhere?

Paulus
11th April 2008, 23:38
no.. I remember them on Colombo in the shop thats now a push bike shop.

remember youi are olde than me LeMans... by a long shot hahahahahahah.... :2thumbsup

Not anymore. Laurie Dawe Cycles has just closed its doors for good. Didn't they shut Jacks to take the son off 250 racing overseas? He was pretty quick on the local scene I seem to remember.

AllanB
11th April 2008, 23:43
:lol: You're starting to annoy me now :spanking:

Look go do yourself a favour and get your dates right :pinch:
go and have a talk to Allan tomorrow he's bound to be at work (the hazardous chemicals store behind Norjo's current site).
Or if you want I could get John Hughes to verify the dates I'm stating the next time he calls into work; he the travelling salesman for ELF oils at the moment and was the TS for Darbi accessories.
Or I could call into Baden's place over the weekend and get him to verify dates.

on a side note too the square tank silver blue Z1000 your talking about is a Z1R circa 1978-79 next model was the Z1R MKII 1981 which was black & had the larger capacity tank :rolleyes:



Nah not that one the J model - 81 -84 I think see pic (wrong colour in pic). The Z1000 spectre also was in stock in Colombo St around the time I got the 750.

And I'll spot you a tenner on Norjos being in Colombo Street in 82 & 83 - PM me your postal and I'll send a copy of the receipts. Alan will verify it too.

Good discussion - all we need is the bar and a few beers ;)

T.W.R
11th April 2008, 23:50
Nah not that one the J model - 81 -84 I think see pic (wrong colour in pic). The Z1000 spectre also was in stock in Colombo St around the time I got the 750.

And I'll spot you a tenner on Norjos being in Colombo Street in 82 & 83 - PM me your postal and I'll send a copy of the receipts. Alan will verify it too.

Good discussion - all we need is the bar and a few beers ;)

Yeah thats a J model :lol: Z1100 Spectre never came to NZ new in was a US only model only a handful of Z750 Spectres made it here.

Make it a $100 bud coz I must be delusional seeing I actually lived in Riccarton until I was 17 and went past Norjo's & was actually in the place fark knows how many times between 1979 & 1990.

Actually
Just scan the receipts off & post them up :jerry:

JMemonic
12th April 2008, 00:20
I do remember the shop in Colobo street mentioned and one in Riccarton, didn't they have two shops at the same time ?

cynna
12th April 2008, 03:42
[QUOTE=T.W.R;1516544]Pacific Motorcycles
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got my first bike for Pacific when they were in new brighton - a 1981 xl125s for $600. they then moved near linwood ave then to manchester street where i got my third bike from

laRIKin
12th April 2008, 06:28
Was he in Southside Kawasaki with Nigel Woods (now at Superior)? Wasn't there a Lotus Esprit Turbo involved there somewhere?

Yes it was called Southside Kawasaki.
Not sure if Nigle worked for him if he did it was for a short time when he was in Moorehuose Ave before he started his first shop, a bike wreckers in Bath St.
I think he bought it off John (knees) Boot and had his mechanic working for him, (Something) Monk


Not anymore. Laurie Dawe Cycles has just closed its doors for good. Didn't they shut Jacks to take the son off 250 racing overseas? He was pretty quick on the local scene I seem to remember.

I think the main reason he got the shop it so his son could race and to become a mechanic.

The bike market dried up his son stopped racing and working as a mechanic (in NZ anyway) and he had a few run in's with the motor cycle company's in NZ and just moved on.
He had more money than a Bull could shit so did not care.

The son Brent Jones was very quick and race in Malaysia a lot and did very well.

laRIKin
12th April 2008, 06:55
Norjo Motors - down Colombo Street around from Kilmore - got two bikes from there (that was 25 yrs ago!). Spags Pizza was on the Kilmore Colombo corner.

I think you could be right, I do remember a shop there now I think a bout it, for a short time.
But I was earlier talking about a different shop on a different street.
And they both had a ramp.

They use to be down Blenheim Rd near the stock yards and (now) old bridge as well and then I think they went their and then to Colombo St.
Then Riccarton Rd back to Blenheim Rd to a new building, now a hire place.
Then to where they are now.


Maybe the reason Hamptons is not doing too well is that it is not very obvious that it is a motorcycle shop?

No, you have never dealt with the old man.

And what you said did not help

200BUSA
12th April 2008, 07:29
Wrong as I use to go there and bought a bike or two off them.
And they were in Oxford Tce and Ian (Jungle) Mc Gregor use to run the shop and the owners son was Brent ?? was a mechanic and a good racer also A.J and Allan Mandson a good speed way rider worked there as well.

I bought bikes from there as well and i had my bike in the workshop oneday and Roger Freeth was using the workshop preping his bike for racing and he spared some time to give me a few tips on getting a bit more out of my bike.
Jacks then moved to Colombo St in a shop that sat back from the road.
Tommys Suzuki as it was first -started at 85 Moorehouse Ave,again buying a new TS250, then TS400.
Bought a few bikes from Paul Walton who owned Pacific Motorcycles in New Brighton.He didnt get into importing Jap bikes until he moved to Linwood.
Easterbrooks were in Papanui by the railway station. And how long has Trev Pierce been going now?

Kickaha
12th April 2008, 07:42
Sheesh, I feel old, I remember a lot of those dealers.

How old do you think you'd feel if you remember all of them :lol:



I dont remember Tommys being zookie but then again you left in 78, I was 10... yet 7yrs later nothing had changed at Whitings... I love it.

Tommys changed brands a couple of times


ok ok ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh k... who remembers John Whites shop on Sawers Arms road and his drop kick sons shop 2 doors from Jacks Yamaha?


Classic lines is what it was called


Jacks was on Oxford Tce between Lichfield St and Hereford St

Yeah, bought my first crash helmet there and a friend of mine bought a XJ550 off them in Oxford Tce just before they moved to Colombo st



lol John White, now he could make a Trident hustle :headbang: #175, or Lindsay Williamson on BLACKADDER :love:

The Trident was faster


Was he in Southside Kawasaki with Nigel Woods (now at Superior)? Wasn't there a Lotus Esprit Turbo involved there somewhere?

I was trying to remember the name of that one, they were on Moorhouse ave?

Bets service from all the above mentioned shops would have been Whitings (Honda City) and Cresswells


And how long has Trev Pierce been going now?

Must be a while now, he did his time at Cresswells so did he start up after they dissapeared?

AllanB
12th April 2008, 07:46
TWO SHOPS - one run by each partner ! Now that's a possibility as I did not venture Riccarton way in those days looking at bikes until Norjos Colombo St moved :-) I only dealt with Alan on bike sales.

Scan of first service on 750 (CSR750 twin Model) below. S-maps show 834 as down by where Mainstreet is. It may well have been a 750 Spectre (all gold and black) the 750 & 1000 looked the same.

I'll tell you one thing - when you are 17 and have been working paper rounds etc and saving since you were 12 - you remember where you got your first new bike (the Z440) and the brand new 750 16 months or so later.

laRIKin
12th April 2008, 07:54
Jacks then moved to Colombo St in a shop that sat back from the road.
Tommys Suzuki as it was first -started at 85 Moorehouse Ave,again buying a new TS250, then TS400.
Bought a few bikes from Paul Walton who owned Pacific Motorcycles in New Brighton.He didnt get into importing Jap bikes until he moved to Linwood.
Easterbrooks were in Papanui by the railway station. And how long has Trev Pierce been going now?

Tommys Suzuki started somewhere first I think as he got that big shop built for him while he was still in his old shop.
Could be wrong as I was just about to start riding motor bikes.
Then along can Bob and the devoice and he had to down grade again after he became Tommys Yamaha.

Are you real sure Jacks moved as the owner of Jack had money in Nojo's as well I think and Ian worked a log side Allan on Colombo St under the banner of Norjo's.
It's starting to come back to me now, ferk must be getting old or something.
And Norjo's sold Yamaha's as well because I bought a brand new XJ750 Seca of then ($5500) from then in Riccarton in 1981.

laRIKin
12th April 2008, 08:01
TWO SHOPS - one run by each partner ! Now that's a possibility as I did not venture Riccarton way in those days looking at bikes until Norjos Colombo St moved :-) I only dealt with Alan on bike sales.

Scan of first service on 750 (CSR750 twin Model) below. S-maps show 834 as down by where Mainstreet is. It may well have been a 750 Spectre (all gold and black) the 750 & 1000 looked the same.

I'll tell you one thing - when you are 17 and have been working paper rounds etc and saving since you were 12 - you remember where you got your first new bike (the Z440) and the brand new 750 16 months or so later.

You got your post up before me and we are on the same lines.
And I did the paper round thing as well.

And I got my first bike off another shop we all forgot.
Ted Youngmans he sold bike's, car's and made sold and fixed caravans and a young Robin Hampton worked there before his old man started his first shop Honda Shop in Hornby.

Kickaha
12th April 2008, 08:16
Atlantic Motorcycles was another one, one of the ex sales guys from Eric the Hoods, just around the corner in St Asaph St, although as far as bike shops go they weren't around very long

Bought my BMW R75/7 from them and my Brother bought a 600 Pantah

T.W.R
12th April 2008, 08:53
They use to be down Blenheim Rd near the stock yards and (now) old bridge as well and then I think they went their and then to Colombo St.
Then Riccarton Rd back to Blenheim Rd to a new building, now a hire place.
Then to where they are now.

Never went into this Colombo St store ever that's why the memory banks can't even picture where it was.
From the corner of Blenheim Rd & Clarence St they went out to Sockburn (Between the bridge & the entrance to Wigram).




Tommys Suzuki as it was first -started at 85 Moorehouse Ave,again buying a new TS250, then TS400.
Bought a few bikes from Paul Walton who owned Pacific Motorcycles in New Brighton.He didnt get into importing Jap bikes until he moved to Linwood.
Easterbrooks were in Papanui by the railway station. And how long has Trev Pierce been going now?

Tommy's started where Southside Kawasaki were (the same shop that Monarch Yamaha had) then went to where Eric the Hood was then onto St Asaph St (just off Fitzgerald Ave, sold the odd car from that site also).

Southside or Monarch were one of the big pushers of that one-off Sydenham street race back in the 80s, one of the main straights went right past their door (albeit on the opposite side of the island on Moorehouse Ave)

Paul was importing when the shop was at 23 Beresford St New Brighton, then went to 5 Buckleys Rd Linwood, then onto where Casbolts are now.

Trevor Pierce started out in a warehouse building on Tuam St (think that was it) on the Linwood side of Fitzgerald Ave sometime in the early 90s (Applied for a job there)



Tommys Suzuki started somewhere first I think as he got that big shop built for him while he was still in his old shop.
Could be wrong as I was just about to start riding motor bikes.
Then along can Bob and the devoice and he had to down grade again after he became Tommys Yamaha.

Are you real sure Jacks moved as the owner of Jack had money in Nojo's as well I think and Ian worked a log side Allan on Colombo St under the banner of Norjo's.
It's starting to come back to me now, ferk must be getting old or something.
And Norjo's sold Yamaha's as well because I bought a brand new XJ750 Seca of then ($5500) from then in Riccarton in 1981.

He'd been at St Asaph St quite a few years before the divorce and Bob (his son) had been around for along time prior to any of that happening.


You got your post up before me and we are on the same lines.
And I did the paper round thing as well.

And I got my first bike off another shop we all forgot.
Ted Youngmans he sold bike's, car's and made sold and fixed caravans and a young Robin Hampton worked there before his old man started his first shop Honda Shop in Hornby.

:crazy: I was doing a paper run to pay for my gear & for the running costs of the YZ80 (the oldman brought it off Tommy (St Asaph St store for $995)).


Atlantic Motorcycles was another one, one of the ex sales guys from Eric the Hoods, just around the corner in St Asaph St, although as far as bike shops go they weren't around very long

Bought my BMW R75/7 from them and my Brother bought a 600 Pantah

That's the name I was trying to think of, that was that bloody wee boutique type shop on St Asaph :clap: about half way between Manchester & Colombo Brick building that became a Golf outfitters and I think is now a Bridal Boutique.

T.W.R
12th April 2008, 08:58
The Trident was faster



:2thumbsup The Trident used to sing :drool: gotta love a triple on song! Blackadder just looked wicked

Have got the advertising post for the 88 Bears meeting with Lindsey on Blackadder been given the push what looks like a T100 Trumpy :clap:

Kickaha
12th April 2008, 09:05
Southside or Monarch were one of the big pushers of that one-off Sydenham street race back in the 80s, one of the main straights went right past their door (albeit on the opposite side of the island on Moorehouse Ave)


The Sydenham Street race didn't go anywhere near Moorhouse ave it was held over the other side of the railway line, using Carlyle,Byron streets and others in that area

T.W.R
12th April 2008, 09:07
The Sydenham Street race didn't go anywhere near Moorhouse ave it was held over the other side of the railway line, Wordsworth street was the main straight

Yeah that right, but either of those two dealerships were one of the main pushers behind it

dangerous
12th April 2008, 09:12
Found a old post of mine about Hamptons.

Read the last line.
From what I have heard, they have not sold one new Guzzi.
In saying that I think Rocky bought his of them or did he buy it from Thunder Bikes?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1217219&postcount=13

yeah they have, 6 MG including Rockys and bout 7 Aprila... but thats still not enough to survive on, the big hurt is the waranti work where MG pay a lesser per hour rate than they pay there mechs, Itialy is hard to deal with and parts if they arive are taking months.

Kickaha
12th April 2008, 09:30
It was held Jan 19/20 1985 and was round 4 of the NZ championships and the NZGP

Neither Southside or Monarch appear in the programme which would be a bit strange if they were behind it, only the motorcle shops mentioned below get a thanks for their support

Jacks Yamaha (838 Colombo St) The Suzuki Centre (35 Manchester Street) and Doug Cresswell Suzuki (219 Tuam Street)

Cresswells was advertising a new GN250 at $2785

Jacks also have BMW in their advert and the Suzuki Centre is advertising the a mind blowing adventure the new GSX1100

Some bike shop sponsored riders

111 Aaron Slight RZ350K Gregory Yamaha
1 Robert Holden GSX550 Wellington Motorcycles
29 R Lewis XJ600 Monarch Yamaha
60 D Brown KR250 Norjo Motors
150 G Ramage KR250 Southside Kawasaki
1 Robert Holden GSX1100EF Wellington Motorcycles
21 E Kattenburg GSX1100 Wellington Motorcycles
23 Trevor Kirby GSX1100 Budget Motorcycle Spare
45 D Newton GPZ900 Boyle Kawasaki
5 Bob McCleary RZ500 Tommys Yamaha
149 K Steadman TZ500 Te Puke Yamaha

laRIKin
12th April 2008, 10:00
Never went into this Colombo St store ever that's why the memory banks can't even picture where it was.
From the corner of Blenheim Rd & Clarence St they went out to Sockburn (Between the bridge & the entrance to Wigram).

They first (I can remember) were in a two story shop (office up stairs) just as you went around the rounderbout and over the bridge they were on the left. (Kawasaki and Ducati)
You had to do a bit of a U turn to get to the shop. (Blenheim Rd near the stock yards )
And had forgot that they were all so near Wigram Air Base.



Tommy's started where Southside Kawasaki were (the same shop that Monarch Yamaha had) then went to where Eric the Hood was then onto St Asaph St (just off Fitzgerald Ave, sold the odd car from that site also).

Manarch built a shop in Hornby and as far as I can remember that was the only shop they had.
The owner did work for Tommy as a sale man before going out on this own



Trevor Pierce started out in a warehouse building on Tuam St (think that was it) on the Linwood side of Fitzgerald Ave sometime in the early 90s (Applied for a job there)

I can only remember he did have a shop on Ferry Rd and there was a fire :shutup: so moved across the road on Ferry road and then up the road to where he is now.



He'd been at St Asaph St quite a few years before the divorce and Bob (his son) had been around for along time prior to any of that happening.

Not the way I remember it.
He built the Moorehouse shop played around and his bit on the side had Bob.
Got divorce and that forced him to move to St Asaph St.
Now he may had had a second divorce and that may forced him to move again, as he then moved in to his brothers shop and disappeared on the map and was last selling Jinlings? (Honda copys)



That's the name I was trying to think of, that was that bloody wee boutique type shop on St Asaph :clap: about half way between Manchester & Colombo Brick building that became a Golf outfitters and I think is now a Bridal Boutique.

That was Atlantic Motor Cycles and they moved to Ferry Rd and then Fizgerald Ave.
One of the onwer's (Bill X Eric Woods sales mans) had health problems so the two partners split and closed.

I'm going for a ride now catch up to night.

Kickaha
12th April 2008, 10:05
One of the onwer's (Bill X Eric Woods sales mans) had health problems so the two partners split and closed.

Bill Jeffries, they sold bikes and cars from Fitzgerald ave, then got out of bikes and just did cars and then out of it altogether



Not the way I remember it.
He built the Moorehouse shop played around and his bit on the side had Bob.
Got divorce and that forced him to move to St Asaph St.
Now he may had had a second divorce and that may forced him to move again, as he then moved in to his brothers shop and disappeared on the map and was last selling Jinlings? (Honda copys)


Grant the spares guy moved from Tommys to Linwood ave and was doing Yamaha spares as Yamaha wouldn't let Bob open the shop in Rangiora with out having a spares dealer in Chch, the spares guy (Clayton) at McClearys out here is bloody good

laRIKin
12th April 2008, 10:09
Bill Jeffries, they sold bikes and cars from Fitzgerald ave, then got out of bikes and just did cars and then out of it altogether

Yeah I use to know him and his wife and business partner and his wife well and can not remember his name only nick name.

Kickaha
12th April 2008, 10:11
Yeah I use to know him and his wife and business partner and his wife well and can not remember his name only nick name.

He sold bike to all my brothers and a few friends while he was at Atlantic, he was good to deal with

laRIKin
12th April 2008, 10:13
Grant the spares guy moved from Tommys to Linwood ave and was doing Yamaha spares as Yamaha wouldn't let Bob open the shop in Rangiora with out having a spares dealer in Chch, the spares guy (Clayton) at McClearys out here is bloody good

Not quit Bob open the shop in Rangiora first and Grant was not allowed to sell Yamaha's because for his shop so could only sell parts and that why he sells the China-ess bikes he does and not Yamaha's.

T.W.R
12th April 2008, 10:31
You had to do a bit of a U turn to get to the shop. (Blenheim Rd near the stock yards )
And had forgot that they were all so near Wigram Air Base.



Manarch built a shop in Hornby and as far as I can remember that was the only shop they had.
The owner did work for Tommy as a sale man before going out on this own

Not the way I remember it.
He built the Moorehouse shop played around and his bit on the side had Bob.
Got divorce and that forced him to move to St Asaph St.
Now he may had had a second divorce and that may forced him to move again, as he then moved in to his brothers shop and disappeared on the map and was last selling Jinlings? (Honda copys)



That was Atlantic Motor Cycles and they moved to Ferry Rd and then Fizgerald Ave.
One of the onwer's (Bill X Eric Woods sales mans) had health problems so the two partners split and closed.

I'm going for a ride now catch up to night.


It was the corner of Clarence St & Blenheim Rd and yeah was a crap of a place to get in & out of.

Ahh yep remember now :lol: Monarch had the shop roughly where Mitre10Mega is now became a classic cars salesyard.

When Tommy left St Asaph St Kevin left the shop on the corner of Durham & Tuam St and they shifted to the building just at the corner of Durham & Sandyford St (just over the Durham St Bridge).

Didn't Superior have the shop next door to Atlantic ? I've got one of Paul Stace's business cards saying 142 St Asaph

Kickaha
12th April 2008, 10:34
Didn't Superior have the shop next door to Atlantic ? I've got one of Paul Stace's business cards saying 142 St Asaph

That was on the corner of Durham and St Asaph and was a accesories shop only,Trevor Kirby also worked out of there at one stage

T.W.R
12th April 2008, 10:38
That was on the corner of Durham and St Asaph and was a accesories shop only,Trevor Kirby also worked out of there at one stage

I remember that now :pinch: had a few 2nd hand bikes also. That's the car stereo outfit now :pinch:

HenryDorsetCase
22nd May 2018, 20:16
Lets dredge a ten year old thread shall we?

I found out today that First European are not going to be the Triumph shop any more. CMG (selling Indians) now have the franchise.

FE are doing Benelli, MV, and other stuff - their custom work and second hand stuff. Probably more margin. Allegedly not their idea.

dangerous
22nd May 2018, 21:07
mate... being such a massive car dealership nissin, isuzu just two of them they have now cleaned up on bikes, however they are not bike people and from what I have heard havent been the best tho Id say they are well ahead of 1st euro... but that aint hard

btw they have Guzzi and vespa aswell.

SVboy
22nd May 2018, 21:14
Lets dredge a ten year old thread shall we?

I found out today that First European are not going to be the Triumph shop any more. CMG (selling Indians) now have the franchise.

FE are doing Benelli, MV, and other stuff - their custom work and second hand stuff. Probably more margin. Allegedly not their idea.

I thought what you thought, but I heard First European would retain the Triumph franchise and CMG would be Triumph dealers also?

AllanB
22nd May 2018, 21:46
Casbolts took MV off FE some time back - 2016 I think.

Be interested to see how it goes with CMG - got the car funding behind them as did Avon City Suzuki/BMW when they started and they are still doing well by all accounts.

far queue
22nd May 2018, 21:52
I thought what you thought, but I heard First European would retain the Triumph franchise and CMG would be Triumph dealers also?

Some time ago, when 1st European still had Triumph, I was told that Triumph are moving to a new worldwide sales model which would require that if you sold Triumph then you wouldn't sell any other make (like the Harley shops), and there would be a standard shop design/layout (like MacDonalds etc) so that any Triumph shop you went into anywhere in the world would be the same. The dealer would have to pay for this setup themselves, and it was unlikely that 1st European would be able to afford to do so, so they were expecting to loose the Triumph brand, while CMG has much deeper pockets and had been busy taking other brands away from 1st European, so it was expected that they would get the Triumph dealership. Sure enough, CMG has had Triumph for a month or so now. If the rest of the story turns out to be correct and it has to be a stand alone Triumph shop, then I assume that CMG will operate Triumph out of one premises and the other brands out off another - they own enough buildings along there to be able to do that, and money isn't an issue for them.

Another part of the story was that there was to be one Triumph dealer for the South Island and one for the North Island only.

It may turn out to be true, or it may not, I'm just passing on what I was told.

HenryDorsetCase
23rd May 2018, 08:32
the other aspect might be that once Triumph roll out the "world store" and their engines are in Moto2 (but they dont sell a Daytona 765 because they are fuckwits) it all looks tickety boo, Mr J. Bloor Esq might sell it. Like Ducati or MV or whatever. Might make a decent adjunct for whichever major Chinese* government backed multinational car maker wants a prestige brand...



(or Indian - not US Indian, India Indian)

EJK
23rd May 2018, 09:56
the other aspect might be that once Triumph roll out the "world store" and their engines are in Moto2 (but they dont sell a Daytona 765 because they are fuckwits) it all looks tickety boo, Mr J. Bloor Esq might sell it. Like Ducati or MV or whatever. Might make a decent adjunct for whichever major Chinese* government backed multinational car maker wants a prestige brand...

It'd be company's major stupidity not to release Daytona 765 by 2019 in time for the launch of Moto2 engined season. From business point of view, I'd say the whole point of bidding to have 765 engine for Moto2 was to revive the sports series Daytona nationwide.

pritch
23rd May 2018, 10:57
It'd be company's major stupidity not to release Daytona 765 by 2019 in time for the launch of Moto2 engined season. From business point of view, I'd say the whole point of bidding to have 765 engine for Moto2 was to revive the sports series Daytona nationwide.

You'd think so. Still, sport bike sales have tanked world wide. Honda dropped the CBR600 while that engine was the Moto2 engine and had established an amazing record for reliability, so if Triumphs market research doesn't predict a gold rush they might not bother.

HenryDorsetCase
23rd May 2018, 11:25
You'd think so. Still, sport bike sales have tanked world wide. Honda dropped the CBR600 while that engine was the Moto2 engine and had established an amazing record for reliability, so if Triumphs market research doesn't predict a gold rush they might not bother.

in the latest Performance Bikes, they test a Daytona 765RS built by a Triumph dealer. It looks like a factory bike It uses the last generation Daytona fairing on stock mounting hardware with no modifications, and they have put it on clipons and so forth. The test unit has an SC Project exhaust (fruity) and the guy is selling them - 14000 quid. Like a Daytona but quicker.

SVboy
23rd May 2018, 11:39
I have gone from my beloved GSXR600 to a Street triple r recently. Not because I really wanted to, but because I old and non-bendy and now hopefully slower on the roads because naked.[Not me!] . Sadly I think sports bikes are getting less and less in sales numbers because many riders now fit a similar demographic to me. Makers are simply not seeing the sales to justify the investment on a new range of sports bikes, except as halo models. Sad times. Still have the Busa tho................

rastuscat
23rd May 2018, 12:24
I have gone from my beloved GSXR600 to a Street triple r recently. Not because I really wanted to, but because I old and non-bendy and now hopefully slower on the roads because naked.[Not me!] . Sadly I think sports bikes are getting less and less in sales numbers because many riders now fit a similar demographic to me. Makers are simply not seeing the sales to justify the investment on a new range of sports bikes, except as halo models. Sad times. Still have the Busa tho................

Supply is following demand. A lot of folk who buy Royal Enfield Himalayas were potential sports bike folk decades ago, but are now looking for more mature options.

The last CBR600 I had a ride on was a beast, it's shame to see such bikes disappearing.

F5 Dave
23rd May 2018, 13:13
Do Triumph have dealerships? Not sure I've stepped into one having had two over 8 years.

Is that where new ones come from? I did wonder.

I was always told that when a mummy and daddy who love each other very much- And were married, ideally in a 1/2 Lutheran branch paedophile church- have a special cuddle. . . A new Triumph is born. In the image of John Bloor. :msn-wink:

ellipsis
23rd May 2018, 21:00
A lot of folk who buy Royal Enfield Himalayas were potential sports bike folk decades ago, but are now looking for more mature options.




...they must have bashed their potential, brains out then...

Cosmik de Bris
24th May 2018, 10:58
Casbolts took MV off FE some time back - 2016 I think.

Be interested to see how it goes with CMG - got the car funding behind them as did Avon City Suzuki/BMW when they started and they are still doing well by all accounts.

Casbolts didn't take MV, FE got rid of it after the NZ agents inability to supply parts for warranty claims. FE took MV back after strong negotiations. CMG did get the Aprilia dealership off of FE, but they aren't bike people, I won't take my Aprilia there.

Cheers

actungbaby
24th May 2018, 12:32
Well, yet again big changes... just after we get used to Avon City Ford being a Suzuki dealer, I find out there is about to be a bloody big new HONDA dealer.

They will be selling all things Honda from a lawn mower to a 4x4 and CBR1000, and Casbolts will remain with Honda too, LOL good luck there.
Changes have already started, and it will be good to see one of ChCh's origional Honda dealers back.

oh is hollands still suzuki hope so was my fav honda dealer back in the day.

good news downn there love to back living there. enjoyed my vist in march. alot have take family back this year.

actungbaby
24th May 2018, 12:35
Blue Wing is the NZ importer.. you are thinking of Whiting Honda, and no it ait them :wari:

was three hollands honda shakespear road whitings in manchester street shop be demolished i assume (quakes)
and casbolts. oh hornby honda too. thought hollands gone to cars by then

HenryDorsetCase
24th May 2018, 13:54
was three hollands honda shakespear road whitings in manchester street shop be demolished i assume (quakes)
and casbolts. oh hornby honda too. thought hollands gone to cars by then

Yes the old Whitings shop in Manchester st was demolished after the EQ's but Whitings had ceased trading long before and all the stock and all the spares had gone "somewhere".

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/74517-Christchurch-motorcycle-shop-nostalgia

rastuscat
24th May 2018, 16:37
I hope CMG is able to avoid the pitfalls Jeff Grays had with the motorcycle franchise. Looks like CMG is running it on a different model.

Trying to run a motorcycle business is very different from running a car business. The riders are very emotionally invested in their bikes, more so than car drivers. At Jeff Grays, they banned owners from having contact with the guy who actually worked on the bike. You had to deal through a Customer Services Agent. Leaving a lot of BMW bike owners fairly disenfranchised.

There were other issues too, but I'll let that lie. In summary, just have to say that car dealers face challenges with being good motorcycle retailers.

HenryDorsetCase
24th May 2018, 17:53
I hope CMG is able to avoid the pitfalls Jeff Grays had with the motorcycle franchise. Looks like CMG is running it on a different model.

Trying to run a motorcycle business is very different from running a car business. The riders are very emotionally invested in their bikes, more so than car drivers. At Jeff Grays, they banned owners from having contact with the guy who actually worked on the bike. You had to deal through a Customer Services Agent. Leaving a lot of BMW bike owners fairly disenfranchised.

There were other issues too, but I'll let that lie. In summary, just have to say that car dealers face challenges with being good motorcycle retailers.

the other thing that BMW does is they don't want owners to do or know anything about the mechanics of their vehicle. Just as an example, I am told that their engines don't have dipsticks to check engine oil, and the bonnets are deliberately insanely difficult to open "no user serviceable parts inside".

motorbike people are very invested (as you say above) in the mechanical aspects of the vehicle. In fact thats one of the reasons I like them so much I think - especially old ones - you can see the bits that make it go, which is pleasing.

F5 Dave
24th May 2018, 19:33
Neinundertinker.:Police: