BMW launches its new race bike

[huck farley]

BMW S1000RR Superbike announced



Well, well, well. Talk's cheap, eh! The whizz kids at Beemer are going to clean up Superbike in either 2011 or 2012, or both eh. Time will tell. I can't see Ducati, Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Honda, or any of the others having a bar of that. Can you? Here is the official release below. (Where's the shaft drive?)
cheers
Huck


BMW officially unveils World Superbike contender
By Michael Carroll

New bikes

16 April 2008 12:33


These are the first official pictures of BMW’s 2009 World Superbike (WSBK) contender, which was unveiled to a select group of journalists in Germany this morning.

The motorcycle is named the S1000RR, and BMW plans to produce 1000 road-going versions in 2009 to satisfy World Superbike homologation requirements.

The road-going version is due to feature traction control, and BMW is working towards a target weight of 190kg, and power of 190bhp.

BMW has also specified that the road-going version should be comfortable to ride and easy to move around on, despite being light and compact.

Adrian Roderick, general manager of BMW Motorrad UK told MCN that the S1000RR is unlikely to be in dealers until early 2010, as the World Superbike homologation rules give the firm until December 2009 to build road-going motorcycles.

While the firm has yet to set the price for the road motorcycle, it is aiming to keep it competitive, relative to Japanese superbikes.

MCN estimates the model would need to be priced around the £10,000 mark to satisfy that requirement.

BMW has set ambitious targets for the race bike, looking to be a consistent top-10 finisher in 2009 with a two-man team comprising one experienced rider, and one young-gun.

The aim for 2010 would be to start winning races, with a view to wrapping up the championship in 2011 or 2012.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sure looks like a GSXR1000! And I see their wanky telelever front end is missing. They blame space...Tui. It's shit. Simple as that.

[huck farley]

I recall reading about another Infamous German. Saying he had created the thousand year Reich.
But in reality it only lasted from 1933 to1945. How could anyone get it so wrong? In fact 988 years wrong!!

But the BMW bikes of the era were plagued with breakdown. Let them hope this race bike they have copied!! Holds up to the Bavarian bike builders expectations.

I wonder who the senior rider will be, and also his younger nemesis!!?

[RantyDave]

I see their wanky telelever front end is missing.
It is pretty conspicuous, eh? Harder to spot is the front wheel speed sensor - implies traction control?

Dave

[Dooly]

Not a bad looking bike at all.

Will the riders have to wear cardigans under their leathers?

[Crasherfromwayback]

It is pretty conspicuous, eh? Harder to spot is the front wheel speed sensor - implies traction control?

Dave

Being a test mule it'll be covered in all sorts of sensors..but yeah, front wheel speed vs rear wheel speed for traction control no doubt.

[pritch]

The wider BMW concern knows a thing or two about high performance engines.
Wonder who they'll get to design a gearbox for it?

[fergie]

im confused? where will the panniers mount?

[Motu]

BMW cleaned up in Superbike when it first started,don't see why they can't do it again.They are leading the Contructor's Championship in F1 at the moment.

[yod]

it's got USDs

it must be good

[Forest]

Sure looks like a GSXR1000! And I see their wanky telelever front end is missing. They blame space...Tui. It's shit. Simple as that.

The telelever system weighs quite a bit more then conventional forks - so it would be kind of pointless to put it on a race bike.

That doesn't mean the telelever is shit.

[skidMark]

it's got USDs

it must be good

Yeah.....duh...n00b

[disturbed]

wow. finally a good looking bemma bike

[Crasherfromwayback]

The telelever system weighs quite a bit more then conventional forks - so it would be kind of pointless to put it on a race bike.

That doesn't mean the telelever is shit.

Actually it's just another reason why it is.

[huck farley]

It looks as though they have coppied the Daytona 675 front end and the Speed triple rear end. Everything in the middle is a copy of Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Honda, and most of the other multi cylinder superbikes. If it's anything like the formula one cars it will be unreliable. And will take five years to even get on the podium.

[AllanB]

Just what we need - a overpriced GSXR replica.

190kg appears a bit porky compared to the competition.

Will the riders long grey beard cause a bit of wind-drag?

[Owl]

It looks as though they have coppied the Daytona 675 front end and the Speed triple rear end. Everything in the middle is a copy of Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Honda, and most of the other multi cylinder superbikes. If it's anything like the formula one cars it will be unreliable. And will take five years to even get on the podium.

Speed Triple ass end??? It certainly looks nothing like mine:blink:. It has to be the nicest beemer I've ever seen though. I like it!

[Dino]

BMW cleaned up in Superbike when it first started,don't see why they can't do it again.

Did they have special allowances for Ducati back then?

Nice looking bike.
.

[slowpoke]

190kg appears a bit porky compared to the competition.


This is probably a wet weight figure. you'd be suprised what a CBR600RR weighs with all fluids in place ready to hit the road.

Dunno why everyone is calling it a Yamsuzkawonda replica...remove the decals/logo's and colour from any cruiser, naked or dirt bike and most people wouldn't have a fuggin' clue what it was.

I'm glad they haven't gone the pointless and impractical underseat exhaust route, if ever there was a fashion over function faux pas, an underseat exhaust is it.

[Biggles08]

Is there any guarantee that that actually is a BMW??? Looks suspiciously like a photoshop job to me.

Re BMW giving every other manufacturer the learn I will reserve my opinion and watch this space...do I believe they can...absolutely...vee hafv veys of making du looze!:woohoo:

[TOTO]

I'm starting saving from next week...

[captain_andrey]

They are leading the Contructor's Championship in F1 at the moment.

Not for long mate, not for long :P
I didnt even know BMW made sports bikes till I went to their factory in Munich.
Got to sit on these 2 babies.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/71396325@N00/2271058317/" title="BMW K1200R by captain_andrey, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2002/2271058317_a2d82111d3.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="BMW K1200R" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/71396325@N00/2271050093/" title="BMW Bike by captain_andrey, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2026/2271050093_9362ec5416.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="BMW Bike" /></a>

[sosman]

video clip here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g73dp9JZy_c&eurl=http://motojournal.blogspot.com/

[Mental Trousers]

The telelever system weighs quite a bit more then conventional forks - so it would be kind of pointless to put it on a race bike.

That doesn't mean the telelever is shit.

You're right about the weight not meaning the Telelever system is shit.

It's only the weight it is cos it isn't made of carbon fibre. If it were in carbon fibre the entire front end will weigh less than a conventional front end (only 1 spring and lot of damper fluid etc). Problem is big money motorsport is conservative in the extreme and sponsors don't like taking risks so better to put in what everyone else has cos everyone knows it's adequate. That's why it's a straight 4, uses a conventional layout of every component etc. Besides, it's BMW's first tilt at WSBK. Start with known, thoroughly understood technology then go from there.

[Motu]

Besides, it's BMW's first tilt at WSBK.

Just a little bit of history for those not interested in history.Ok,it's AMA,but they did the Superbike thing before the Europeans thought of it.

''The American Motorcycle Association Superbike racing series began in 1976, with the inaugural race at Daytona International Speedway. Motorcycles raced in this class were based on regular production models and were limited to a maximum of four cylinders and 1000cc displacement.

In spite of this, the first race was won by a BMW with only 900cc and two cylinders. An identical BMW BMW came in second, with a 900cc V-twin Ducati in third. The highest placing four-cylinder Kawasaki was in fourth position.

BMW would go on to win the championship that year.''

[Kickaha]

In spite of this, the first race was won by a BMW with only 900cc and two cylinders. An identical BMW BMW came in second, with a 900cc V-twin Ducati in third. The highest placing four-cylinder Kawasaki was in fourth position.

BMW would go on to win the championship that year.''

That would have been Reg pridmore on the Butler and Smith BMW, I saw an article about it years ago, what an awesome bike

[xwhatsit]

It looks as though they have coppied the Daytona 675 front end and the Speed triple rear end. Everything in the middle is a copy of Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Honda, and most of the other multi cylinder superbikes. If it's anything like the formula one cars it will be unreliable. And will take five years to even get on the podium.

It looks nothing like either. BMW for years have had the best engine in F1 -- certainly the most power in the Williams era. During the 80s they were the first to get 1000hp in F1. BMW's motorsport division is hugely admired.

But of course, as you say in one of earlier posts, BMW == Hitler. I suppose Triumph is good old cigar-puffing Churchill, then? What happened, Farley? Did you get molested by a grey-bearded R75/5 rider when you were little?

Anyway, I shouldn't be here, as according to you I'm supposed to stay out of your threads because I'm `A gay, it's plain to see' :laugh:

[limbimtimwim]

The big boss man of BMW said when presenting that bike to the press "[..] when you see the motorcycle in a minute, please note that neither the design nor the impression of quality are the same as on the production model following at a later point. "

So the gixxer like profile and subframe made out of square section (Al. la every jap sports bike till about 2004) could have been a bit of disguise to not attract to much attention if the bike was spotted by.. well.. basically anyone, because everyone would see something on it that told you that it was a a ubiquitous japanese sports bike.

Except those ultra-bling front forks and speed sensor.

[JMemonic]

Ok traction control sensors, I am guessing no more victory rear wheel over the finishing line .... odd.

[avgas]

Just a little bit of history for those not interested in history.Ok,it's AMA,but they did the Superbike thing before the Europeans thought of it.

''The American Motorcycle Association Superbike racing series began in 1976, with the inaugural race at Daytona International Speedway. Motorcycles raced in this class were based on regular production models and were limited to a maximum of four cylinders and 1000cc displacement.

In spite of this, the first race was won by a BMW with only 900cc and two cylinders. An identical BMW BMW came in second, with a 900cc V-twin Ducati in third. The highest placing four-cylinder Kawasaki was in fourth position.

BMW would go on to win the championship that year.''
So what was the races that they had in american that the 1971 Z1 (not z900) won and the 1973 CB750 won?
I'm confused? and mis-informed apparently.

[avgas]

Anyway, I shouldn't be here, as according to you I'm supposed to stay out of your threads because I'm `A gay, it's plain to see' :laugh:
You can stay, just none of that fancy stuff

[xwhatsit]

You can stay, just none of that fancy stuff

Lmao! I'll try to avoid emulating Triumph riders then :niceone:

AMA Superbike (the first superbike series, wasn't it?) only started in 1976. So what was before it might have been AMA F1 perhaps. In 1975 they had `AMA Superbike Production', but that wasn't quite the same thing and I think that was the first and only year.

[munterk6]

Being a test mule it'll be covered in all sorts of sensors..but yeah, front wheel speed vs rear wheel speed for traction control no doubt.

That aint no traction control boys n girls, thats ABS braking hahahahah!!!
In true beemer tradition..HAHAHAHAHA:whocares:

[The Pastor]

190kg is too heavy isnt it?

[munterk6]

190kg is too heavy isnt it?

Merely the wet weight of the 1000 production units offered up to the general public to satisfy the homologation rule for WSBK. Then they will trim it to close to the 162kg limit and crank up the Hp to 210ish to be competitive in the frey.
Well.....thats the plan anyway. Out of an article I read about it.

[skidMark]

Just what we need - a overpriced GSXR replica.

190kg appears a bit porky compared to the competition.

Will the riders long grey beard cause a bit of wind-drag?


Not really 06 zx10r full fluids is 200.

[NUTBAR]

put 07 R1 beside it & spot the differance?
apart from the cans.

[FJRider]

BMW S1000RR Superbike announced



Well, Well, Well, Talks cheap aye!! The whizz kids at beemer are going to clean up superbike in either 20011 - 20012, or both aye. Time will tell. I can't see Ducati, Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Honda, or any of the others having a bar of that. Can you? Here is the official release below. (Where's the shaft drive?)
cheers
Huck

So what date is it ??? 20011/12 or 2011/12

[avgas]

put 07 R1 beside it & spot the differance?
apart from the cans.
The foot pegs, the handle bars, the fairing, the engine (i dont see bmw doing 20v), mirrors..........hang on nothing is the same here?????
Been for a ride lately?

[Ixion]

Oh gawd, this is about the funniest post I've seen on KB ever :lol:

People who like BMWs just as much as Triumphs are arseholes who `still side with Hitler-ism'?

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Maybe next time I see a policeman on a BMW twin I should write to the PCA and complain about the rampant Nazism in the local police force?

That's not the funniest, most ironic bit !

Clearly Mr Farley does not remmeber who the founder of the Triumph Motorcycle Company was

It was Herr Siegfried Bettman a german industrialist from Nuremberg !

The first Triumph engineer was Mauritz Schulte. From, guess where ?

[huck farley]

put 07 R1 beside it & spot the differance?
apart from the cans.

Have you got a picture of the Yammi so as to compare cobber?

[Fatjim]

Its bullshit.

Fuck I hate BMW's!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Its bullshit.

Fuck I hate BMW's!

So does Hitler. See for yourself!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukAhlxl4hmM

[NordieBoy]

Anyone else think the rear end looks to be pointed too high?
Unless it really drops with a rider on board it won't help the aerodynamics any.
The stuntaz would love it though.

[owner]

I thought there were 5 new companys; MV,buell,BMW and 2 more I cant think of that were going to have crack at WSB ???

[Cajun]

I thought there were 5 new companys; MV,buell,BMW and 2 more I cant think of that were going to have crack at WSB ???

ktm, aprilia

[ManDownUnder]

It's a BMG (Bavarian Motor Gixxer).

Looks good but I guess it really comes down to how well it goes...

[huck farley]

http://wandermo.blogspot.com/2008/01/sexy-superbike-mv-agusta-f4-r-312.html

I think this baby will have the Beemer boys shitting there pants!! This is not MV race bike but they are racing a trimmed down version of it. Stock standard it does 312+

Click on the sexy MVF4R312 video underneath the crash tender.

[NighthawkNZ]

Hitler killed 6 million innocent Jewish men, women, and children. Also tens of thousands of Prisoners of war!! Churchill and the allies on the other hand were fighting to wipe out the Nazi's. Thousands of Anzac's lost there lives fighting to save arseholes like you that still side with Hitler-ism. That's what Fridays all about ANZAC DAY.


Well while ANZAC day is a day of rememberance for all that gave their lives... its remembering the ANZAC's of WWI. Where 3000 Kiwi and over 8000 Aussie's died which is now know as ANZAC Cove due to a British stuff up.

Nazi Germany and Hitler was WWII.

Isn't it strange in every war after the smoke dies down and you see the dead bodies of the fighting soldiers, you wonder why there are no signs of the Generals...

However this thread is not about ANZAC day and why it is... it is about the new BMW....

[huck farley]

Well while ANZAC day is a day of rememberance for all that gave their lives... its remembering the ANZAC's of WWI. Where 3000 Kiwi and over 8000 Aussie's died which is now know as ANZAC Cove due to a British stuff up.

Nazi Germany and Hitler was WWII.

Isn't it strange in every war after the smoke dies down and you see the dead bodies of the fighting soldiers, you wonder why there are no signs of the Generals...

However this thread is not about ANZAC day and why it is... it is about the new BMW....

I wouldn't call it a British stuff up. More like the Turks were more organised. And yes I suppose the Generals are a bit like the Politicians when the shit hits the fan they go AWAL.

Back to the BMW challenge!!
Well I am going to stick my neck out here and predict next rounds of super bike will see an Italian 1st and 2nd Ducati and MV Augusta, or vice verse. Honda or Yamaha will grab the third spot.

[NighthawkNZ]

I wouldn't call it a British stuff up. More like the Turks were more organised. And yes I suppose the Generals are a bit like the Politicians when the shit hits the fan they go AWAL.


Well it was they were warned that it would not work by those in the field, and were warned that the loss of life will be very high, and they were not suppose the land where they did...

but yeah back to the subject of the thread...

[huck farley]

They landed in the right place alright the Turks had the high ground and were waiting for the Anzac's and the Brits who had the highest body bag count.

We seem to be have two threads going here, Best we keep to the job at hand that being the BMW race bike is ready to take on the world at Super bike.
I agree with an earlier post. That they are taking there time they say before they win it. 2010-2011. I wonder if KTM and Aprilia have the same Idea, Because we all know the rest of the factory teams will be wanting to win it as well in the same years.. Good luck to BMW if they can pull it of. But I have my doubts. As mentioned before I think the Italian Stalions will be one two.

[Forest]

As a BMW rider, I don't really care if BMW wins or not.

But I do like the fact that they're giving it a go - because it means that they'll be investing money into researching & developing new materials and technology. Which is always good.

[huck farley]

As a BMW rider, I don't really care if BMW wins or not.

But I do like the fact that they're giving it a go - because it means that they'll be investing money into researching & developing new materials and technology. Which is always good.

But the price of Beemers will go through the roof. But then again they are half way through it now I suppose.

On another thread it is said that BMW are abandoning New Zealand all together. Time will tell I guess.

But I shouldn't be to worried about replacing your Beemer as there are much better European or even Japanese bikes out there to replace your BMW and some of them are half the price tag of a new Beemer and have just as many if not more features than BMW have.

[skeeter]

Having just bought my first non-Jap bike, a BMW with telelever front end. I can say it works great over bumps. The great thing about BMW's is they were designed in a wind tunnel for practical road riding ie you don't get wet!

[Zookey]

Come on Huck we should be talking these guys into the wonders of Trumpets,bet the Generals were blowing theirs at Anzac cove

[Mikkel]

It's german - ze germans know how to build all things mechanical... Will be interesting :yes:

[PZR]

Well I like it, yes it looks like a jap bike but to be competitive I guess its a case of form follows function. Certain things work best and years of racing technology have produced the current motorcycle shape for sports bikes and these will only change as new technology brings the ability to change the design. (remember dustbin fairings). I like the fact they will have to produce road going models, that will be the one I want to see but it will be like the Ducati 1098R and the KTM RC8, all well outside my price range (dammit)
I imagine that to be competitive like all racing it comes down to how much money they are all prepared to spend. How much is the new 1098, for Superbike, something like 65,000. isnt it? How many people can afford that.
BMW is in the same position as Harley Davidson, they have to attract younger riders as currrently their average buyer is in his 60's which is why they are producing so many new models aimed at younger riders but they do not seem to have worked out that a younger rider also has less money and will generally go for the cheaper option, and why would'nt he when the bike is lighter, faster and a hell of a lot cheaper. Their only saving grace is not everyone wants something that looks exactly like everyone elses bike. Some of us like different things, things with character or soul, things that stand out from the crowd. This is something the Japanese have never really mastered in my opinion.

[Zookey]

Well I like it, yes it looks like a jap bike but to be competitive I guess its a case of form follows function. Certain things work best and years of racing technology have produced the current motorcycle shape for sports bikes and these will only change as new technology brings the ability to change the design. (remember dustbin fairings). I like the fact they will have to produce road going models, that will be the one I want to see but it will be like the Ducati 1098R and the KTM RC8, all well outside my price range (dammit)
I imagine that to be competitive like all racing it comes down to how much money they are all prepared to spend. How much is the new 1098, for Superbike, something like 65,000. isnt it? How many people can afford that.
BMW is in the same position as Harley Davidson, they have to attract younger riders as currrently their average buyer is in his 60's which is why they are producing so many new models aimed at younger riders but they do not seem to have worked out that a younger rider also has less money and will generally go for the cheaper option, and why would'nt he when the bike is lighter, faster and a hell of a lot cheaper. Their only saving grace is not everyone wants something that looks exactly like everyone elses bike. Some of us like different things, things with character or soul, things that stand out from the crowd. This is something the Japanese have never really mastered in my opinion.

Im not a Jappa fella myself; but for looking different what about a Ninja or Busa:2thumbsup

[PZR]

Well the 'Busa certainly achieved a different look when it came out I agree but I am not sure which Ninja you are talking about???

[King_Rider]

If the current BMW sport models are anything to go by the BMW will be underpowered compared to Japanse 1000cc superbikes. The closest comparison; the K 1200 R claims 163 hp and that is a 1200cc so I hate to think how much the 1000cc mill claims. In terms of styling it looks very much inspired by a late model Gixxer.

[Forest]

If the current BMW sport models are anything to go by the BMW will be underpowered compared to Japanse 1000cc superbikes. The closest comparison; the K 1200 R claims 163 hp and that is a 1200cc so I hate to think how much the 1000cc mill claims. In terms of styling it looks very much inspired by a late model Gixxer.

The power doesn't seem to matter so much as the overall system performance.

Ducati bikes have always been relatively underpowered, but they're very effective at putting down power on the racetrack.

[NZsarge]

If the current BMW sport models are anything to go by the BMW will be underpowered compared to Japanse 1000cc superbikes. The closest comparison; the K 1200 R claims 163 hp and that is a 1200cc so I hate to think how much the 1000cc mill claims. In terms of styling it looks very much inspired by a late model Gixxer.

Mate! Write off the German's if you like but but I would'nt, at least with cars anyway when they set their mind to winning a championship they usually do.

[King_Rider]

The power doesn't seem to matter so much as the overall system performance.

Ducati bikes have always been relatively underpowered, but they're very effective at putting down power on the racetrack.

Yeah thats true, power delivery is also very important; good rubber, torque curve, transmission, weight, throttle response etc... I get your drift but I do feel that the Japanese have perfected these things also. I guess only time will tell.

[Zookey]

Yeah thats true, power delivery is also very important; good rubber, torque curve, transmission, weight, throttle response etc... I get your drift but I do feel that the Japanese have perfected these things also. I guess only time will tell.

OIY: There must be a huge misconception out here when we think that Nipponese race bikes are a product of the said Company in there homeland.,ie ,Yamaha have recently moved their race plant from Britain into a huge new factory in Italy.And in a guided tour one didn't see a home country man on site,'and more the reason Rossi was so vaunted on home turf.Riding an Italian bike ,:Oi: that will get the Duke boys going methinks :spanking:

[Kwakajack]

The telelever system weighs quite a bit more then conventional forks - so it would be kind of pointless to put it on a race bike.

That doesn't mean the telelever is shit.

Agreed, however you have to look at its intended use, as a touring bike there is simply nothing that does the job better. Sportsbikes on the other hand requires more adjustability as well as reduced weight, so unless BMW want to make the telelever unit entirely from magnesium alloy and carbon fibre then USDs are the obvious choice, that and I can't see the centrally mounted shock being that easy to adjust with a spanner . . .

To grab a few other ideas while I'm here, with aerodynamics being king and GSXRs being a pretty darn universal shape these days I can't blame BMW for adopting something similar in its silhouette. Marketing boys also have a part to play here, it must look like something we all recognise with being a clone while not being too out there and only attract the alternative crowd. Ducati tried that and personally I reckon didn't quite get there with the 999/749, then look at the 1098/848, back to the future??

BMW seek to hit the litre bike riding spoortsbike crowd and good luck to them its about time I reckon. Put one of those on the road at a decent price comparable to the Italians or Austrians then I reckon they'll sell well. . . . . . IF they have the results to back up the bike. Ballpark horsepower at the crank . . . lets hope 200 to 220 for good luck, better give the Japs a shock for their money. The K1200S being almost as quick as the ZX14 or Busa and a good 35 horses short, I reckon they've got a fairly good chance as long as the engine boys are given a really long leash before the electronics boys have to rein in the motor in again

[Little Miss Trouble]

In terms of styling it looks very much inspired by a late model Gixxer.

It actually looks like an oversized R6 if you take a closer look at it, they did afterall, track test it pre-release in R6 clothes.

I think it's best to wait until next year to start talking it up/down. Let the results speak for themselves.

[rustycharm]

Tend to agree with the comments re styling the beemer like the pointy R6 but lets face it - all the hyper sports bikes are going that way.
Only wish they'd done something creative with the exhaust - slinging it out the side is so... well... um.. yawn... boring.
The 749/999 was at least the catylist for cleaning up the back end and raising the arse of the bike towards the sky.
I do agree .. the duc didn't quite get it right .... even tho its the current ride of choice.