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Bounty
15th December 2004, 20:24
Don't get mad get even! Having just written a thread to a topic (not sure how to include it in this post, but it was to do with Bloody Cage Drivers) I found this link from the NZ police website to report a bad driver.

http://www.police.govt.nz/service/road/roadwatch.php

I tried it out and got an e-mail back:

Thank you for your report. It has been dealt with under Community
Roadwatch Report number: 103593
We have written to the owner of the vehicle outlining our concerns about
the way it has been driven and asking that they raise the issue with the
driver.

We hold all reports for two years, and if a vehicle receives more than
three from different people, we declare it to be a vehicle driven by unsafe
drivers. At that point, we seek the assistance of the local police to
actively seek out the vehicle and all other vehicles registered to and used
by the owner. The first person we tell of our intentions is the owner.
The whole idea is to get the owner to take responsibility for how their
vehicle is used.

At the end of the day it may not change their habits, but at least they will know there behaviour doesn't go un-noticed.

jase
15th December 2004, 20:30
Good Link, I'll be using it. :Police: :headbang:

inlinefour
15th December 2004, 20:34
Don't get mad get even! Having just written a thread to a topic (not sure how to include it in this post, but it was to do with Bloody Cage Drivers) I found this link from the NZ police website to report a bad driver.

http://www.police.govt.nz/service/road/roadwatch.php

I tried it out and got an e-mail back:

Thank you for your report. It has been dealt with under Community
Roadwatch Report number: 103593
We have written to the owner of the vehicle outlining our concerns about
the way it has been driven and asking that they raise the issue with the
driver.

We hold all reports for two years, and if a vehicle receives more than
three from different people, we declare it to be a vehicle driven by unsafe
drivers. At that point, we seek the assistance of the local police to
actively seek out the vehicle and all other vehicles registered to and used
by the owner. The first person we tell of our intentions is the owner.
The whole idea is to get the owner to take responsibility for how their
vehicle is used.

At the end of the day it may not change their habits, but at least they will know there behaviour doesn't go un-noticed.

Just placed that on my favourites so I'll be using it also. :mobile:

thehollowmen
15th December 2004, 21:05
KUDOS!
this rocks!
:ar15: Revenge at last...

Motu
15th December 2004, 21:19
Make sure you get my rego number correct - I wouldn't want you to dob in someone else by mistake.My plates a bit dirty,but I don't want to clean it - that would spoil the 'I don't give a fuck' Westie look.

Biff
16th December 2004, 11:25
great idea - only problem is i have a shit memory and find it difficult to get my pen and paper out of my pocket when on the bike in order to write down the registration number! :wacko:

duckman
16th December 2004, 12:00
great idea - only problem is i have a shit memory and find it difficult to get my pen and paper out of my pocket when on the bike in order to write down the registration number! :wacko:
Get off the drugs man!!! :stoogie:

Biff
16th December 2004, 12:16
Get off the drugs man!!! :stoogie:

you can smell it form there!! i knew this broadband was good but shit!!

Drunken Monkey
16th December 2004, 16:04
Unfortunately these road reports rely on statements built entirely on the complainant's perceptions. Having to accumulate 3 reports from different persons over 2 years is some buffer against 'abuse', however I beleive law enforcement is the job of the Police, not the average citizen. In some situations you may have also felt hard done by from whatever action you witnessed, but may have missed a detail which would have in fact meant the driver had not been breaking the law. Case in point, do you recall how little knowledge the average citizen has of the road code from the Kiwi driving challenge? Also there is no way an officer can properly validate the claims against the driver, and therefore someone could be unfairly targetted.
If you can't *555 and have the other driver dealt to in a resonably short length of time from the incident you noted, then it shouldn't really be pursued further.

Several years ago I was on the receiving end of a road watch report that was nothing but a mass of blatant lies (except for me flipping the other driver the 'bird' - I admit to that). Despite clearly conveying my side of the story to the 'investigating officer', demonstrating 3 points from the rode code that indicated I was in the right and pointing out 2 obvious inconsistencies in the other driver's story, the record still stood. It was also suggested by the narrow minded plod that I should have somehow still given way (despite having right of way) just to defuse the situation. Pffft. Giving way to people like that only justifies their actions to themselves.

NC
16th December 2004, 16:30
:Police: That is soooooo kewl!

spudchucka
16th December 2004, 20:09
however I beleive law enforcement is the job of the Police, not the average citizen.
You are of course 100% correct! However the police need the eyes and ears of the public because they haven't yet developed the law enforcement crystal ball. Road watch reports that appear to disclose obvious traffic offences are always investigated, I've done dozens of them myself! However your depth of investigation is very limited and often it is just a case of getting both sides of the story and trying to determine what actually happened. Because neither party is totally independant you can't take either ones story as being more credible than the others. They usually result in a warning by way of letter if fault is found and the matter is then filed. When you get multiple complaints about the same incident or the same vehicle on the same day then you may have a strong case for prosecution. Likewise if a particular vehicle is constantly generating complaints then that vehicle is likely to become a target for the local cops and will receive no discretion when offences are found.

sels1
16th December 2004, 21:01
You are of course 100% correct! However the police need the eyes and ears of the public because they haven't yet developed the law enforcement crystal ball. Road watch reports that appear to disclose obvious traffic offences are always investigated, I've done dozens of them myself! However your depth of investigation is very limited and often it is just a case of getting both sides of the story and trying to determine what actually happened. Because neither party is totally independant you can't take either ones story as being more credible than the others. They usually result in a warning by way of letter if fault is found and the matter is then filed. When you get multiple complaints about the same incident or the same vehicle on the same day then you may have a strong case for prosecution. Likewise if a particular vehicle is constantly generating complaints then that vehicle is likely to become a target for the local cops and will receive no discretion when offences are found.

Spudchucka - thanks for your input - its good to have a professional opinion on some of the issues discussed on this site. Keep up the good work.

Storm
17th December 2004, 13:24
Yeah spud- we luvs yous guys when you pull crazy drivers up.

Btw nurses just got a pay increase- does that mean you get shortchnaged on a few new bits of gear or new officers? Time for a pay increase?

Bonez
17th December 2004, 16:43
:Police: That is soooooo kewl!
Going to start reporting sportbike rider with packracks? :moon:

spudchucka
17th December 2004, 20:32
Yeah spud- we luvs yous guys when you pull crazy drivers up.

Btw nurses just got a pay increase- does that mean you get shortchnaged on a few new bits of gear or new officers? Time for a pay increase?
They deserve every cent! We have a pay round that is current for at least another year and I am NOT holding my breath for a 20% hike when they start negotiating again.

scumdog
17th December 2004, 20:57
Down here a bit of 'local knowledge' makes a big difference, something you lose in the 'big smoke', we KNOW who is driving like a dick-head and pretty quick we have them in court (or over 100 demerits) and off the road as well as a good liklihood of their car being impounded.
Bless the redneck country!! :cool2:

Now on to Laphoraigh (sp)?

Stevo
20th December 2004, 21:40
Yeah well I am guilty of on one occasion not reporting someone that I should have. Displayed both impatience poor judgement and horrendous overtaking manoevures in crazy places for over 40 kms.
Anyhow I am now wiser from my mistake. I can accept (generally) someone making a poor judgement (cos we are humanlike) as long as they look to take more care in their driving afterward, but this particular driver was just a "ferkin idget"

erik
21st December 2004, 13:33
In the last few days I've seen a couple of examples of people just plain breaking the rules and driving like complete idiots at intersections. Normally I don't see much really bad driving, dunno why I've seen two in the last few days. One was coming up to the carrington rd intersection on New North rd going towards St Lukes. One car was stopped in the right turn lane, indicating to turn right, the light was green for traffic going straight through, but there was a red arrow for right turning traffic, and some nutter in front of me indicated right, moved into the right turn lane, then moved back into my lane driving around the stopped car and turned right in front of it, through the red light arrow!

And then yesterday at the roundabout by Rankin Ave and Clark st, by the bus stop and trainstation behind Lynnmall, I was going through it turning right from Rankin ave to Totara ave, and some idiot coming out of Totara ave did a right turn into the roundabout (going the wrong way around) straight across in front of me and proceeded into that short road that joins Gt North rd (maybe it's still Totara ave?). And the young lady in the passenger seat (well, she was probably somewhere near my age) had the nerve to pull the finger and swear at me for tooting at them...

What is the world coming to... :wacko: ;)

Now that I've read this thread I'll make more of an effort to remember their number plates :devil2: