How/where to get started in off-road riding in Auckland?

[chocobo_ff]

Hi all,

After having a long discussion with the folks, I guess it is now official that I won't be getting a road bike :( Instead, now I'm looking at going off road, and was wondering where would be a good place to start, what bikes would people recommend etc?

My parents have a farm (not big, I think it's about 13-14 acres?) that I can practice on, but I don't have any off road experience (in fact, I have next to no on road experience, being never having the chance to get a bike and ride on road :(), so was wondering if I should just go out and buy an off road bike and start riding on the farm? At the moment I'm thinking something that's road legal, no idea what would be good though (I like Kawasaki, but open for suggestions :)). Any help is much appreciated!! Thanks :)

[Buddy L]

something like a KLX250, from 1990 onwards would be good for you.
If you want to do the on road bizzo and then dabble in the off road sector as well.
Get you self a spare set of rims, if money is no object. as if you take the bike on the road you will wear out your tyres in no time, then they will be pointless for offroading.

And long live the golden Chocobo.

[chocobo_ff]

something like a KLX250, from 1990 onwards would be good for you.
If you want to do the on road bizzo and then dabble in the off road sector as well.
Get you self a spare set of rims, if money is no object. as if you take the bike on the road you will wear out your tyres in no time, then they will be pointless for offroading.
Was just looking at the KLX250 actually - have to have a look around this weekend :)

Good point about the spare rims - the cost IS important, but I'm happy to spend money on things like this :)


And long live the golden Chocobo.
Lol good to see someone who knows what a Chocobo is ^^

Looking at this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=7804) about where to ride, with these places do I just turn up with my bike and money and ride? Sorry for the newbie question, but I'm completely lost in this ><

[arj127]

Why would you want to go road when you have 15 acres at your dispossal?
Buy a jappa four stroke of about 03 upwards vintage and enjoy the thrill that is offroading first. You will pick up more skiils riding dirt first, and then maybe look at riding seal later. Believe me, dirt riding is the shit.

[jimmy 2006]

15 acres near auckland? hmmmm...... i know a few people that would be keen to come around and give you some pointers :drool:

[B0000M]

haha, theres pretty much a whole forum full of such people right here....

im sure we could carve up a track the the back paddock for you in no time!

[chocobo_ff]

15 acres near auckland? hmmmm...... i know a few people that would be keen to come around and give you some pointers :drool:

I'm sure there are :) Unfortunately about 1/3-1/2 will be out of bounds cos there are horses on the farm, and there's a pond as well, and unless I have something like this (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10504949), I won't be going near that pond :p

Guess I'll go check out some KLX250s when I can sneak out of work for a while! :rolleyes:

[arj127]

I can understand you wanting to ride road first, i did. But, once i tasted dirt riding i was blown away and always had a smile on my face at the end of the day no mater how knackered i was. I would get a dirt bike of some sorts and head directly to Ardmore practise days and just enjoy the joy of dirt riding if i were you. Go there and borrow someones bike for a quick ride if you have to.

[glice]

I've got a klr250, those are pretty well mannered, and does me well for a first off road bike. but can be taken on some pretty haggard rides, did a fair bit of the wires track on the weekend without too much trouble.

[jimmy 2006]

stay with off road, learn some skills then by a motard as well as your off roader! i personally would not buy a bike that is designed for both. almost everyone here sings in unison when it comes to recommending a KDX200 as a first bike. call up MRmotorcycles, ask for scott, then get yourself a KDX.

even better, just buy this one http://www.mrmotorcycles.co.nz/product_info.php?cPath=14&products_id=1615&osCsid=c5a4e916657b57b3f9937147063d6961

then open the gate and let those horses escape, and we can create a perfect track around those 15acres. :devil2:

in fact you only need to set aside about 3 acres for some serious fun

[chocobo_ff]

stay with off road, learn some skills then by a motard as well as your off roader! i personally would not buy a bike that is designed for both. almost everyone here sings in unison when it comes to recommending a KDX200 as a first bike. call up MRmotorcycles, ask for scott, then get yourself a KDX.

even better, just buy this one http://www.mrmotorcycles.co.nz/product_info.php?cPath=14&products_id=1615&osCsid=c5a4e916657b57b3f9937147063d6961

Trying to do my research on the different types of bikes at the moment, motard (supermoto? Man I'm getting confused with all the names!) seems really fun, but yes I see where you are coming from regarding the off road bike, and I think it'll hurt a bit less if I fall on grass/dirt than road :bleh:

Would you (and any others here) recommend buying new or second hand? The KDX200 looks nice, doesn't seem to be on the Kawasaki website though (wanted to get some spec for it), and heck I don't know which bike is meant to be the successor to the KDX200 :blank:?


then open the gate and let those horses escape, and we can create a perfect track around those 15acres. :devil2:

in fact you only need to set aside about 3 acres for some serious fun
:whistle: having access to a private farm must make one popular in the off road section here huh!

[clmintie]

Having access to land puts you in a fantastic position to enjoy your new bike (whatever you choose....) You will also have the opportunity to make more "instant" friends than you ever thought possible......

My recommendation for a bike is to go for as light, quiet and as new as possible, 15 acres isn't big enough to not annoy your neighbors and once you start riding, it will become addictive, you won't want to stop just for them..... See if you can find a motorcycle shop that does demos (warn them you haven't ridden much)

Give Scott a call at Mr Motorcycles, as others have said, you'll get friendly,knowledgeable info. I think Mr M/C's have demo days, but he will tell the details......

[clmintie]

2006 Kawasaki KDX200 Specifications:

Engine: Two-stroke single with KIPS®
Displacement: 198cc
Bore x stroke: 66.0 x 58.0mm
Compression ratio: 7.9:1 (high speed) – 9.4:1 (low speed)
Cooling: Liquid
Carburetion: Keihin PWK35
Induction: Six-petal reed valve
Ignition: Electronic CDI
Transmission: Six-speed
Final drive: Chain
Frame: High-tensile steel perimeter design
Rake / trail: 26.5 degrees / 4.3 in.
Front suspension / wheel travel: 43mm conventional cartridge fork with 20-way compression damping / 11.4 in.
Rear suspension / wheel travel: UNI-TRAK® single-shock system with adjustable spring preload, 20-way compression damping and 18-way rebound damping /
11.8 in.
Front tire: 80/100x21
Rear tire: 100/100x18
Front brake / rear brake: Hydraulic disc / Disc
Overall length: 83.5 in.
Overall width: 35.0 in.
Overall height: 48.4 in.
Wheelbase: 56.5 in.
Ground clearance: 13.4 in.
Seat height: 36.2 in.
Dry weight: 222.6 lbs.
Fuel capacity: 2.9 gal.
Color: Kawasaki Lime Green / Black

* Specifications subject to change
---------------------------------------------

No longer in production, so I guess ignore the last line......

I'm very happy with mine.... But I am a slow old guy.....

[B0000M]

* Specifications subject to change

lol, subject to, but never did lol

[jimmy 2006]

Would you (and any others here) recommend buying new or second hand? !

depends how much cash you have to spend, if you have lots of money buy new, remember that this sport is NOT cheap so make sure you set aside at least $600 ideally $1000 for all the protective gear, trailer (if you don't already have one) money for oil/gas, money for paying to ride at trail rides etc etc...... it all adds up. no one ever told me about the amount of cash it would drain, now i am addicted so just can't stop.... :woohoo:


if you want really good advice try posting your height and weight. also where you think you might like to ride. do you live out west? if so woodhill should become your new home this winter.

[chocobo_ff]

depends how much cash you have to spend, if you have lots of money buy new, remember that this sport is NOT cheap so make sure you set aside at least $600 ideally $1000 for all the protective gear, trailer (if you don't already have one) money for oil/gas, money for paying to ride at trail rides etc etc...... it all adds up. no one ever told me about the amount of cash it would drain, now i am addicted so just can't stop.... :woohoo:
Still undecided on how much I want to spend, but leaning towards new, then I'll have less things to worry about maintenance wise (going to hurt my wallet a bit more but probably worth it?). Looking at the Kawasaki bikes... probably something like the KLX110/KLX140? Or should I be looking at moto x bikes like KX85/KX125? Not that interested in doing (big) jumps, although might be something to consider after I gain some off road experience (at the moment though, motard still seems like what I'm most interested in :D)

Have set aside about $1k for protective gear, although just after something that'll give me maximum protection, doesn't have to be the most expensive/flash gear. Got access to an ute so probably use that :D.


if you want really good advice try posting your height and weight. also where you think you might like to ride. do you live out west? if so woodhill should become your new home this winter.
Nope live in east Auckland, parents' farm down south though. Reading the sticky about places to ride, it seems like I have to travel quite a bit no matter where I go :(

I'm 1.8m and about 94kg (working very hard to cut down by about 10kg :p) Probably going to do mostly trail riding (if my understanding of trail ride being dirt road, forest etc being correct?) to start off with.

[Ktmboy]

Here's a solution Chocobo (had to google the word to find out on the mystic)
There will be a good range of Kawasaki Demo bikes at our trail ride this Sunday, KLX450/KX450/KLX250/300 and the 140 range as well. See PDF below.

These will be available to ride around the 4-5 k farm loop only and not out onto the forestry tracks.

Ph Grant(Tuna) at Spectrum Motorcycles Takapuna if you would like more info. 09 489 5355

[jimmy 2006]

you are too big for the klx140, + i think that you would be bored of it by christmas, if not before. new kx125 from scott is a hell of a good deal, but then a kx125 as a first bike i would not recommend. it was my first bike and i learnt alot, but mostly the hard way......... in trees ect... frustration from fouling plugs..... klx250 or kdx200 or if you want some 4 stroke motorcross fun a kxf250 is the business. :girlfight:

[Rupe]

you are too big for the klx140, + i think that you would be bored of it by christmas, if not before. new kx125 from scott is a hell of a good deal, but then a kx125 as a first bike i would not recommend. it was my first bike and i learnt alot, but mostly the hard way......... in trees ect... frustration from fouling plugs..... klx250 or kdx200 or if you want some 4 stroke motorcross fun a kxf250 is the business. :girlfight:


This makes sense to me, you could start off with trying out the three bikes jimmy mentioned as they are all light, but still quick enough to make you grin.


Make the effort to go and try some bikes through spectum, and don't worry a 4-5km loop will be very easy to pick up the basics on. It's important to find out what you like and don't before you go parting with any cash.

Enjoy

[chocobo_ff]

Here's a solution Chocobo (had to google the word to find out on the mystic)
There will be a good range of Kawasaki Demo bikes at our trail ride this Sunday, KLX450/KX450/KLX250/300 and the 140 range as well. See PDF below.

These will be available to ride around the 4-5 k farm loop only and not out onto the forestry tracks.

Ph Grant(Tuna) at Spectrum Motorcycles Takapuna if you would like more info. 09 489 5355
Sounds like a fun day, not sure if I have the time to go as I have other commitments on Sunday :( will have to try my best to go though :D


you are too big for the klx140, + i think that you would be bored of it by christmas, if not before. new kx125 from scott is a hell of a good deal, but then a kx125 as a first bike i would not recommend. it was my first bike and i learnt alot, but mostly the hard way......... in trees ect... frustration from fouling plugs..... klx250 or kdx200 or if you want some 4 stroke motorcross fun a kxf250 is the business. :girlfight:
Went to Mt Eden Motorcycles to have a look, the KLX140 is tiny! I was recommended the KLX300 or KX250F... not sure what are the differences though? Was told one's enduro and the other motocross, which unfortunately doesn't tell me much :pinch: Man now I wish I am free on Sunday so I can go to that trail ride thing on Sunday to get an idea what really suits me :pinch:

[B0000M]

my suggestion to you would be a CR250X, got some power, nice and light, suspension is good, electric start, road-legal-able, able to be ridden by beginners or experts, plus the abundance of parts and accessories readily available everywhere.

at 95kg i would suggest a 85 is out of the question, and a 125 you would find underpowered and difficult to learn on. but a 250 4 stroke i reckon would be ideal.

yes im honda biased, but thats because ive had hondas since 1993 and never had a problem other than wear and tear items. ive ridden trails, enduros, cross countrys, mx at national level, beach racing, flat track racing at national level, paddock playing, you name it and ive never been let down.

[jimmy 2006]

seriously go and see scott at Mr motorcycles (pukekohe) look him up, even just give him a call.. he will look after you and point you in the right direction. a new kx250f is a hell of alot of fun, typically MX bikes have more grunt than trail models, but are higher maintainance. (this is the trade off that you have to make.) you would not be dissapointed if you bought a new KX250f!!!!

[chocobo_ff]

seriously go and see scott at Mr motorcycles (pukekohe) look him up, even just give him a call.. he will look after you and point you in the right direction.
Yep probably be going down this weekend, will be going towards that general direction on Saturday anyway. Now's probably too late to call, but just in case I forget tomorrow, does anyone know if it's open on Saturdays and what time? Can't seem to find that info on the website...


a new kx250f is a hell of alot of fun, typically MX bikes have more grunt than trail models, but are higher maintainance. (this is the trade off that you have to make.) you would not be dissapointed if you bought a new KX250f!!!!
Hmm, not sure if I want the extra grunt (probably will in a few months :p), but yeah going to see what Scott can suggest and go from there :D

[tnarg]

Listen to jimmy the kx250f is an awesome bike, im not bias at all :rolleyes:

[B0000M]

much the same as the CRF250X... only the honda is a honda. and it can be road legal too if you ever wanted it to be. and it has electric start, and it has less ferocious power as its the trail version... Botany Honda ive found are good guys to deal with , theoreticly relatively close to where you are

(where have all the honda supporters gone in this forum???)

[chocobo_ff]

much the same as the CRF250X... only the honda is a honda. and it can be road legal too if you ever wanted it to be. and it has electric start, and it has less ferocious power as its the trail version... Botany Honda ive found are good guys to deal with , theoreticly relatively close to where you are

(where have all the honda supporters gone in this forum???)
I can imagine the Hondas would be very reliable... though Kawasaki was what made me get a motorcycle license in the first place, so I'm biased towards that :D

Botany Honda IS close, about 10-15 minutes drive, looks like they have a CRF250X in stock too :2thumbsup should check that out when I am not busy being lazy :p

[B0000M]

I can imagine the Hondas would be very reliable... though Kawasaki was what made me get a motorcycle license in the first place, so I'm biased towards that :D

Botany Honda IS close, about 10-15 minutes drive, looks like they have a CRF250X in stock too :2thumbsup should check that out when I am not busy being lazy :p

honda may be the thing that gives you many years of happy riding to come, (and from what ive heard, cheaper parts as well)

im not trying to make you buy what i say, but dont get fixed on one idea before checking out whats out there, especially if you're not in a rush i suggest going and looking at and riding whatever you can get your hands on until you figure out for yourself what it is you like in a bike

[chocobo_ff]

honda may be the thing that gives you many years of happy riding to come, (and from what ive heard, cheaper parts as well)

im not trying to make you buy what i say, but dont get fixed on one idea before checking out whats out there, especially if you're not in a rush i suggest going and looking at and riding whatever you can get your hands on until you figure out for yourself what it is you like in a bike

Fair enough, a very valid comment (whether you are biased towards Honda or not ;)). Reading the other threads in the forum, it appears that Kawasaki and Honda are the two main bikes people go for, what about the other Japanese bikes (Suzuki, Yamaha)?

[scott411]

ill chime in here now,

i think a KX250F is a great bike, although i would not reccomend it as a 1st bike, if you are looking at kawasaki either the KLX300 or KDX200 would be a better bet, lower maintence, a bit eaiser powerband, if you ave never ridden bikes before i would probebly stear you towrads the KLX300,

the KX125 would be very hard to manage for a new rider, although it will make you a better rider if you learn to ride it properly, the KLX140 and KX85 are smaller bikes and would not be suitable,

we are not open this weekend as we shut long weekends, if you want more advice give me a yell,

Scott, Mr Motorcycles ,

[B0000M]

Fair enough, a very valid comment (whether you are biased towards Honda or not ;)). Reading the other threads in the forum, it appears that Kawasaki and Honda are the two main bikes people go for, what about the other Japanese bikes (Suzuki, Yamaha)?

suzuki's, most of what i hear from suzuki owners, past or present are problems, also the amount of dealers doesnt appear to be as many as honda and kawasaki (from what ive seen) and therefore parts availability and service may not be as convenient. as for why not many ppl ride yammys here, i dont know

[chocobo_ff]

ill chime in here now,

i think a KX250F is a great bike, although i would not reccomend it as a 1st bike, if you are looking at kawasaki either the KLX300 or KDX200 would be a better bet, lower maintence, a bit eaiser powerband, if you ave never ridden bikes before i would probebly stear you towrads the KLX300,
Probably want to stay away from two stroke, so the KLX300 looks like the best choice from Kawasaki at the moment :)

I think I have a lot of the information I need, so next thing would to pay you guys a visit sometime next week to actually see the bikes :D And yes I emailed you last night :)


suzuki's, most of what i hear from suzuki owners, past or present are problems, also the amount of dealers doesnt appear to be as many as honda and kawasaki (from what ive seen) and therefore parts availability and service may not be as convenient. as for why not many ppl ride yammys here, i dont know
Would you recommend a CRF250F or CRF250X (yes I know you already recommended the CRF250X :p)? Looking on the Honda website, the CRF250R is the motocross bike with more power, but doesn't seem to have other obivous difference, and it's even slightly cheaper than the CRF250X...??:blink: flat out at work today, otherwise I could just go to Botany Honda and they seem to have both in stock...

[B0000M]

they are quite sililar, the 250F has im told a different ignition and exaust giving more brutal mx power, it also uses the standard mx size 19' rear wheel and cannot be made road legal.

the 250x has more sedate ignition and exaust and suspension as well as all the lights etc and electric start. also has the trail bike sized 18' rear wheel.

as to why the wheel size is different i have no idea sorry. thats just the way pretty much all bikes are.

as a beginner bike the X would be easier to ride, but still in saying that the F doesnt pack brutal power unless you open it right up. both are quite light bikes and would give you plenty of go for what ever application you want to throw at it, but id suggest again going and riding some bikes if you can

[jimmy 2006]

they are quite sililar, the 250F has im told a different ignition and exaust giving more brutal mx power, it also uses the standard mx size 19' rear wheel and cannot be made road legal.

the 250x has more sedate ignition and exaust and suspension as well as all the lights etc and electric start. also has the trail bike sized 18' rear wheel.

as to why the wheel size is different i have no idea sorry. thats just the way pretty much all bikes are.

as a beginner bike the X would be easier to ride, but still in saying that the F doesnt pack brutal power unless you open it right up. both are quite light bikes and would give you plenty of go for what ever application you want to throw at it, but id suggest again going and riding some bikes if you can



hey mate,

is the crf250x lower maintainance? i never quite got that.
i thought they were the same motor??

[B0000M]

im no crf expert by any means, but i believe internally they are same. which would suggest apart from them probably not being ridden as hard, would probably require similar maintenance. but this goes above my knowledge so i could be completely wrong on this

[jimmy 2006]

i had a ride on one a while ago, really nice.
also had a go on a crf450x. that was fun in the car park! but not on the trails at riverhead........

if you want to complicate things, have a look at the WR250 also.

[chocobo_ff]

*Might* have time to pop down to Honda Botany later today, if not I'll be going on Saturday, so will find out about the two bikes when I go :)


i had a ride on one a while ago, really nice.
also had a go on a crf450x. that was fun in the car park! but not on the trails at riverhead........

if you want to complicate things, have a look at the WR250 also.

Since you brought this up... don't suppose you want to explain the difference between all the Yamaha bikes? :p Looking on the Yamaha site, there's WR250R and TTR250 which are listed as trail bikes (I'm assuming the XT250 is dual purpose...?), and there's WR250F and WR250F NA which are listed as enduro... :blink: Man I feel stupid now :pinch:

[jimmy 2006]

ah, no.
just look at the WR250f enduro.
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelhome/66/home.aspx

if i was going to give up playing around with MX and just ride in the bush, i would love one of these http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-132207195.htm $$$$$$$ though

[clmintie]

[QUOTE=chocobo_ff;1535318]*Might* have time to pop down to Honda Botany later today, if not I'll be going on Saturday, so will find out about the two bikes when I go :)

You will enjoy talking to Richard at Botany, straight talking, good guy, be prepared to leave with sore 'grinning' muscles....... I wish Honda hadn't dropped 2 strokes, I had a ball with my CR125m (back in '74) now they have nothing for me..........

[B0000M]

i thought they still made the 125 and only the 250 had been dropped?

[chocobo_ff]

ah, no.
just look at the WR250f enduro.
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelhome/66/home.aspx

if i was going to give up playing around with MX and just ride in the bush, i would love one of these http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-132207195.htm $$$$$$$ though
Damn that's quite a bit higher than the Kawasaki, and even the Honda. I'm assuming there are some kind of advantages over KLX300/CRF250X that I don't know about, given the price difference?

[jimmy 2006]

brand.

choose a brand, pick your bike then enjoy.
any one of the stated bikes that you buy you will be stoked with.
we each have our favourite dealers, pick one and go for it!

if you are rolling in money/ want a challenge, get one of these http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-148713392.htm

[chocobo_ff]

brand.

choose a brand, pick your bike then enjoy.
any one of the stated bikes that you buy you will be stoked with.
we each have our favourite dealers, pick one and go for it!
Sweet, think I've only got the fun part left - go and try out bikes and find one that I like :clap: Looks like it's down to KLX300 and CRF250X (and I can't seem to get the road legal KLX250S out of my head...)


if you are rolling in money/ want a challenge, get one of these http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-148713392.htm
Hmm.............. going to give that a pass now, decided not to go with the Yamaha cos even that was a bit more than what I wanted to pay, and I think I'm going to stick with something easy to learn for now :D

[tnarg]

Shit if had the money and could choose between the klx300 or the crf250x Iknow which one I would choose....crf250x hands down. Im a huge kwaka fan but the crf250x is an awesome bike but still not as cool as a kx250f.

[chocobo_ff]

Shit if had the money and could choose between the klx300 or the crf250x Iknow which one I would choose....crf250x hands down. Im a huge kwaka fan but the crf250x is an awesome bike but still not as cool as a kx250f.

To be honest a new CRF250X is a bit out of my price range (I can afford it but I don't know if I want to spend that kind of money on a first off road bike), so I'm looking at second hand CRF250X or new KLX300 at the moment... you would think being a Kawasaki fan, and the KLX300 being about 4k cheaper, it's a no brainer to decide between the two :pinch:

KX250F does look nice - not sure if I want to hurt myself that badly or not though :p I do plan to get a better bike in a year or so's time after I've gained some experience though, so that'll probably be what I'll going for next ;) (I can just see the girlfriend yelling at me for spending so much on bikes...)

[jimmy 2006]

the money won't upset the misses nearly as much as the amount of "TIME" you are going to be spending on it. thats the real problem......... !!!!!

[Rupe]

so I'm looking at second hand CRF250X or new KLX300 at the moment...

Why don't you have a go on them before you make your mind up and part with any hard earned cash.

I'd also have a go on a kdx, 2-strokes are light, nimble, fast, and easy to work on. Mate of mine just learn't to ride on one with no pre-bike experience, and it caused him no problems

Also If you are thinking of changing bike in a years time you would lose less money on a 2nd hand crf250x. Honda's seem to hold their value well.

[chocobo_ff]

Why don't you have a go on them before you make your mind up and part with any hard earned cash.

Yeah well that's my plan for the next week or two, try as many bikes that interest me as possible and make a decision after that, just need to find the time to travel to the Kawasaki dealers though, none of them are that close to where I am :( Honda is nice and close though, same with KTM (probably not going to buy a KTM, but doesn't hurt to try right ;)).

[dammad1]

Yeah well that's my plan for the next week or two, try as many bikes that interest me as possible and make a decision after that, just need to find the time to travel to the Kawasaki dealers though, none of them are that close to where I am :(

There's one in east tamaki down allens rd,reasonably new.

[chocobo_ff]

There's one in east tamaki down allens rd,reasonably new.

East City Motorcycles? Been there, they don't have anything now, which is a pitty cos it's quite close. Nice shop though, Cory (the owner) gave quite a bit of advise on what's suitable etc.

[Simone Harrison]

It's an awesome sport, you'll love it. A good idea is to try before you buy. That may help you make your mind up on what model of bike to get, if you want to MX or trail riding. You can contact me on broxymx@gmail.com if you want to find out about any coaching or on mxbraces@gmail.com if you want to get any safety gear. Or catch up with me at anytime at Ardmore.
It's open every Wednesday, and every second Sunday. Check out their web for info. www.amamx.co.nz

[Ktmboy]

Not shy in coming forward are you Simone...he he

Welcome to the off road section where everybody knows nobody and we are all experts on diddly sqaut. Yes, be prepared to get dazzled with bullshit and baffled with briliance.

First dedicated chick on the off road section perhaps?

[Noomin]

Just wanted to tell you guys that this thread was really useful - and guided my decision. Caught up with a guy I knew years ago, and who has been in the Enduro scene a while, and he confirmed everything you guys have been discussing about the KDX200. Thanks for your comments.