Check out these crazy fuckers

[henry]

Long and totally irresponsible

http://www.duc.nu/movies/?v=6903557451901197834

What's with locking the back up?

[R6_kid]

awesome, i posted this video a looooooooooooooong time ago and could never find it again.

they are 'backing it in', basically overbraking on the rear, either by use of the rear brake of changing down a gear too many and having the engine braking do it... it is on purpose.

[NOMIS]

thats insane man. Whats the point in doing it??

[EJT]

Man - crazy alright. Wonder how long they last before they wrap themselves around a pole or oncoming.

[vagrant]

thats insane man. Whats the point in doing it??

Points the nose of the bike out of the corner sooner, so you can get on the gas faster. Just a little drifting baby:niceone::devil2:

[avgas]

Man that yellow hyosung was quick aye
hahahaha

[Mikkel]

OMG WTF SRSLY? They didn't even wave at the oncoming bikers @12:35! :angry2:

And they didn't use staggered formation either from 16:00 onwards. :no:

[p/t]

But I think the close call @ 2:20 really says it all...

Good riders, nice bikes, questionable judgement and decent amount of good luck is all it takes really.

It seems to me that the guy on the camera bike in the long video doesn't seem to have that drifiting bit sorted - or am I the only one who think so? Seems he's provoking the rear to drift the wrong way most of the time and do it way too early.
Anyone know if drifting into the corner, as opposed to out of the corner, is actually being done by anyone involved with serious racing? It seems to me it would defeat the purpose...

[skidMark]

But I think the close call @ 2:20 really says it all...




Man i saw him on wrong side of the road and saw the car thats heart in the mouth shit.

Fuck that.

Ive had a close call like that, its fucking scary.

[bert_is_evil]

I've never really got this using both sides of the road thing - doesn't it involve more challenge and require a greater degree of skill to stay on one side? I mean effectively straigtening out the corners by using the opposite lane kind of takes the fun out of it somewhat doesn't it?

[henry]

Anyone know if drifting into the corner, as opposed to out of the corner, is actually being done by anyone involved with serious racing? It seems to me it would defeat the purpose...

Same. Any time you loose traction and/or drop out of the power band is a bad thing. Looks cool though and leaves nice black lines :)

[skidMark]

I've never really got this using both sides of the road thing - doesn't it involve more challenge and require a greater degree of skill to stay on one side? I mean effectively straigtening out the corners by using the opposite lane kind of takes the fun out of it somewhat doesn't it?


It means you can go a fair whack faster, but when they are blind bends its fucking stupidity.

[firefighter]

I think either way, they are way, way, way better at riding than me.....:shit:

[RM125king]

Thats a mint video. Few close calls though :Punk:

[bert_is_evil]

It means you can go a fair whack faster, but when they are blind bends its fucking stupidity.

Well yes obviously, however straight line speed isn't really that impressive

[skidMark]

Well yes obviously, however straight line speed isn't really that impressive


well means you could be fully cranked over at higher speed because you have twice the road width, but doing it with traffic is intense.

[Mikkel]

Same. Any time you loose traction and/or drop out of the power band is a bad thing. Looks cool though and leaves nice black lines :)

There is one of the top racers (can't remember the name right now) who actually spins his wheels on purpose in just about every corner - apparently it changes the way in which the tyre heats up (more heat close to the surface but less further into the compound). You see a lot of GP racers spinning coming out of the corners as well...


I think either way, they are way, way, way better at riding than me.....:shit:

Oh they are certainly good riders - it's their judgment that could be considered lacking.


Well yes obviously, however straight line speed isn't really that impressive

Straight line speed is *never* impressive - acceleration might be, but the speed itself is irrelevant IMHO. Doesn't take skill, doesn't take anything but hps and aerodynamics.

[bert_is_evil]

well means you could be fully cranked over at higher speed because you have twice the road width, but doing it with traffic is intense.

Ah, yes I do understand the concept of both lanes=road twice as wide....
I didn't watch the whole vid but they aren't fully cranked over when on the oposing lane IMHO at all, in fact most of the shots of them cranked over are when they are actually in their own lane. When they cross into the other lane is when they've gotten lazy or misjudged it and the bike is pretty much stood up. What I'm saying is using only one lane requires more skill and judgement.

[Katman]

It's a pity that guys with such obvious talent don't have the maturity to realise what irresponsible cocksuckers they are.

[Mikkel]

It's a pity that guys with such obvious talent don't have the maturity to realise what irresponsible cocksuckers they are.

Maybe they do - but relish the opportunity to piss YOU off.

And actually - the greek enjoy their cocks in a different manner I believe... even if you were remotely close with you cocksucker comment.

[FilthyLuka]

Straight line speed is *never* impressive - acceleration might be, but the speed itself is irrelevant IMHO. Doesn't take skill, doesn't take anything but hps and aerodynamics.

Yup, Burt Munroe had no skill what so ever.

[Katman]

And actually - the greek enjoy their cocks in a different manner I believe...

Sounds like the voice of experience.

[Mikkel]

Yup, Burt Munroe had no skill what so ever.

Now you're just being difficult and you know it.

Burt Munroe had balls the size of Jupiter and his mechanical skills were top notch AFAIK.

Now personally. I haven't travelled faster than 230 km/h on my bike. It only took balls and a wrist to crank the throttle. The bikes top speed is 260 km/h but I haven't felt like pushing it further yet - after all the straight on Ruapuna is not that long and I rolled off the throttle about half-way along.
I doubt your steering input is going to make a big difference on whether the bike stays upright or not when you're travelling in a straight line in excess of 250 km/h. Yes surface is important and should be chose with care.

[Mikkel]

Sounds like the voice of experience.

Incidentally, I was but a young boy when I was last in Greece. Alas, shielded by my caring parents I never got to enjoy the carnal pleasures of old Hellas. :rolleyes:

Remember though, you might have to pull that stick out of your arse before you can begin to enjoy it. Try it some day.

[Jimmy B]

Now you're just being difficult and you know it.

Burt Munroe had balls the size of Jupiter and his mechanical skills were top notch AFAIK.

Now personally. I haven't travelled faster than 230 km/h on my bike. The bikes top speed is 260 km/h .

:whistle: Is that a ZXR250 with a blackbird engine?

Edit: Has come to my attention that the bike in question would in fact be a ZX7RR and not a Blackbird powered ZXR250, which I think, for the record would kick ass but be slightly iffy in the tight stuff.

[avgas]

Straight line speed is *never* impressive - acceleration might be, but the speed itself is irrelevant IMHO. Doesn't take skill, doesn't take anything but hps and aerodynamics.
Yeh man - i totally fly MIG's all day

Jimmy B and Filthyluka deserve blings but i have blinged too much last 24 hours

[Mikkel]

:whistle: Is that a ZXR250 with a blackbird engine?

Nah, that was on my other bike... I haven't gotten the ZXR250A above an indicated 175 km/h down that straight.

[Mikkel]

Yeh man - i totally fly MIG's all day

Jimmy B and Filthyluka deserve blings but i have blinged too much last 24 hours

Fair enough - I guess I ought to rephrase my original wording to:

"There's nothing impressive about going at 250+ km/h on a modern sportsbike, 600+ ccm, on a straight piece of public road with a good surface."

You like that better?

[owner]

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[Mikkel]

Nice vid.

Pretty cool video. Looks like fun! Most certainly crazy! :yes:

Looks like two different bikes though - one with an undertail exhaust (guessing R1) and one without (GSX-R thou?).

[Jimmy B]

Fair enough - I guess I ought to rephrase my original wording to:

"There's nothing impressive about going at 250+ km/h on a modern sportsbike, 600+ ccm, on a straight piece of public road with a good surface."

You like that better?

I beg to differ mate. It's as freaky as hell, stupid but freaky.

[Mikkel]

It's as freaky as hell, stupid but freaky.

Oh, I can agree on that. Freaky as hell indeed! (until you've done it so many times it become routine I suppose) There is after all a reason I rolled off the throttle on the mean greenie half-way down that straight - and it wasn't because there wasn't time and road enough to go faster... I just didn't need anymore adrenaline at that very moment.

But while scary, I doubt you'll *impress* anyone except from the fuzz by doing so on the public road.

I never said that going fast couldn't be fun and/or scary - just that it wasn't impressive in and of itself.

[90s]

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Whoo, look at the rear tyre spin and squirm. I am pretty sure that in my riding career I will never be cranked over that far spinning the wheels like that, even on the track. Awesome to see what can be done though.

[Jimmy B]

But while scary, I doubt you'll *impress* anyone except from the fuzz by doing so on the public road.

I never said that going fast couldn't be fun and/or scary - just that it wasn't impressive in and of itself.

Mike you also said it lacks skill…

Ok being totally honest here, if the time and place is right I find a small party of road bikes travelling at very high speed in a straight line to be incredibly impressive. I am not alone, however also appreciate many would take an opposite view.

I think serious speed not only requires a high degree of skill but also significant attention to every aspect of the bike to ensure that it is performing as designed. Failure on either part of the bike or the rider in these circumstances would be catastrophic. To say that it does not require skill simply shows that you have not given due consideration to the total proposition.

It is not simply a function of HP and Aerodynamics as you state. Agreed almost anybody could achieve very high speeds on a bike, but to do so whilst mitigating as many foreseeable problems as possible is the art, and that I think takes skill.

I certainly don’t go to the drags or races to watch riders tipping sedately into a 25 kph corners. I go to watch them hammering down straights at ridiculous speeds on well prepared machines.

[Mikkel]

Mike you also said it lacks skill…

Ok being totally honest here, if the time and place is right I find a small party of road bikes travelling at very high speed in a straight line to be incredibly impressive. I am not alone, however also appreciate many would take an opposite view.

I think serious speed not only requires a high degree of skill but also significant attention to every aspect of the bike to ensure that it is performing as designed. Failure on either part of the bike or the rider in these circumstances would be catastrophic. To say that it does not require skill simply shows that you have not given due consideration to the total proposition.

It is not simply a function of HP and Aerodynamics as you state. Agreed almost anybody could achieve very high speeds on a bike, but to do so whilst mitigating as many foreseeable problems as possible is the art, and that I think takes skill.

I certainly don’t go to the drags or races to watch riders tipping sedately into a 25 kph corners. I go to watch them hammering down straights at ridiculous speeds on well prepared machines.


You have a good point there. Let me take it from the top...

Ok, if I ever said it lacked skill to go fast in a straight line I'll take it back and state that going fast in a straight line is not a significant display of riding ability.

By this I mean that I could cream Rossi in a straight line if I was on an R1 and he on a 250 ccm sportsbike. The same would not be a given when we hit the twisties. I'm sure you see what I am getting at here. In a straight line hps, aerodynamics (and balls) are more important than skill when you compare it to riding in the twisties.

I'm not going to argue against that you need to be very aware of everything you do and all of your surroundings when traveling at high speeds. However, the things you need to be aware of are generally the things that might force you to not ride in a straight line all of a sudden. As for paying attention to whether your bike is behaving as it should - that's more in the service and maintenance section IMHO. Most people - unlike Burt Monroe - do not have the senses and reflexes to get on the clutch fast enough if anything seizes... which on a modern motorcycle that has been serviced and maintained according to spec is unlikely anyway.

Truth be told, a motorcycle traveling at speed in a straight line is usually quite capable of staying upright and taking care of changes in road surface, grip, etc. as long as you don't steer it off the road or into an obstacle. The more steering input you throw at it the more likely it is to become unsettled (and my latest bin was due to just that actually).

As you say one has to be "mitigating as many foreseeable problems as possible" when traveling at high speeds. Yes I agree, this is necessary if you want to travel at high speeds safely. The only time you find out if people possess this skill or not is when things go wrong, when something you might have been able to predict occurs and you fail to react to it. Managing to travel at high speed without incident is neither a guarantee that you would have reacted in the right way had such an event occurred nor is it a guarantee that you would have predicted it. As such high speed in a straight line does not illustrate that you possess these skills - and conversely if you fuck it up it is not a guarantee that you didn't have the skills either as there are also incidents that you can not possibly predict.

IMHO the biggest skill requirement for traveling fast in a straight line is knowing when to slow down - everything else is applicable to all other aspects of riding as well. Be it for a hazard or the upcoming corner. Knowing your braking distance at any speed and being able to couple that to your maximum cornering speed is what wins races. As such I'm going be an arse and argue that the most important skill in traveling fast in a straight line is knowing how NOT to travel fast in a straight line. :)

[Jimmy B]

You have a good point there. Let me take it from the top...

the most important skill in traveling fast in a straight line is knowing how NOT to travel fast in a straight line. :)

Top post Mike, all of it :Punk:

[Mikkel]

Top post Mike, all of it :Punk:

You read that quick - I was hoping for a comeback that would prolong the debate. :cry:

Cheers :D

[henry]

I think the most important skill is knowing when not to get into a pissing match on the internet.:argue:

[Jimmy B]

I think the most important skill is knowing when not to get into a pissing match on the internet.:argue:

Bahahahaha, "pissing match" *gasp* oh the burn, bahahahahahaha....*thump*..."andy you alright mate"?

[munterk6]

Never mind the innocent families in their cars whose lives are in mortal danger every time these adrenalised show-offs cross the centre line.
I ride with some very good riders and we DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT cross the centre line in corners where visibility is poor, for this very reason.
Imagine crashing head on in to a family and surviving the crash (flicked over the top) and then having to live with the fact you have killed or maimed someone due to negligence and sheer selfish stupidity!:mad::argh::angry2:

[bigbad]

Good skills, dumb move. The roads no play ground.

BB

[RantyDave]

Coming soon to a Russian hospital near you.

[ital916]

This is why motorcyclists get a bad name, STFU to all who say this is cool and support this kind of behaviour, I reckon these tools need to be banned from riding. I can't wait to see these dickheads appear on ride2die *when it comes back*. I reckon it takes a lot more skill to ride safely and be able to handle all situations thrown at you than going all over the place on a public road thinking your the man when in reality your just a wanker!

[EJK]

Now thats what they call "all over the road"
:cool:

[chrisso]

Bloody Wogs have all the Fun.I reckon Ghost Riders Vids are better. 300+ everywhere:clap:

[chrisso]

You wanna see insane-- Google'' Ghost Rider'' not the crap movie, the dude from Sweden. Upsala run is the best

[avgas]

Mike I'm still not 100% happy :Pokey::rolleyes:
Are you saying it requires no skill (or less skill) to open up a 1000cc 147+hp bike in a straight line than is does a 250cc 40hp bike?
As this is a strong misconception, which i had smashed to bits when i went to big bikes. To make the big difference visual, open the throttle in a small engine - yes the bike accelerates hard (and 0-200 probably not much difference), but a 1000 trys to rips you arms from the sockets.
Also the weight involved makes a significant difference. I personally don't try half the shit (even on straight lines) that i would have tried on my little bike.
The front wheel gets far too light far too quickly.