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Metalor
25th April 2008, 13:35
Ok, just got my TU250 back about a month ago and have noticed a pulsing noise while I'm riding and it pulses quicker as I speed up. I thought it was the chain needing a tighten so did that. Then when I check it this morning the chain is really tight so I roll it back and go grab my tools. When I check it again before I start adjusting it is loose again!

So I got someone to walk it while I check the tension and it seems to be loose on one side and tight on the other, which makes me think the chain hasn't been put on evenly when I got new tyres.

Will this damage my engine (I am assuming so)?, and to fix it do i just loosen the chain right up then even it up a bit and readjust?

Cheers,
Courtney

Disco Dan
25th April 2008, 13:39
Chains stretched.

MSTRS
25th April 2008, 13:40
Your chain has most likely developed tight spots...it needs to be replaced. Do the sprockets at the same time, so that they wear together. Keep it tensioned and lubricated, and the new one should last you for years.

kiwi cowboy
25th April 2008, 13:48
Ok, just got my TU250 back about a month ago and have noticed a pulsing noise while I'm riding and it pulses quicker as I speed up. I thought it was the chain needing a tighten so did that. Then when I check it this morning the chain is really tight so I roll it back and go grab my tools. When I check it again before I start adjusting it is loose again!

So I got someone to walk it while I check the tension and it seems to be loose on one side and tight on the other, which makes me think the chain hasn't been put on evenly when I got new tyres.

Will this damage my engine (I am assuming so)?, and to fix it do i just loosen the chain right up then even it up a bit and readjust?

Cheers,
Courtney

firstly yes it will damage the drive bearing,shaft,seals posibly if its to tight but all chains have a tight point but not as mutch as you seem to be saying.
has it only been lie it since you got new tyres?.
check for a spot thats binding on the chain.
check the sprocket is centered on the hub.
just my thoughts

McJim
25th April 2008, 13:54
had that problem on my ol' VTR. Adjused the chain tension to have the minimum required play at the point where the chain was tightest so it would not be overtight at any point. Then saved up me pennies for new sprockets and chain.

skidMark
25th April 2008, 13:56
had that problem on my ol' VTR. Adjused the chain tension to have the minimum required play at the point where the chain was tightest so it would not be overtight at any point. Then saved up me pennies for new sprockets and chains.

VTR's have multiple chains? is that a scottish modification? lol:woohoo:

Metalor
25th April 2008, 16:52
Hey, thanks for your help guys, you were right. I've oiled the shit out of it and loosened the chain so at the tightest point it has about 2-3cm play, didn't want too much slack that the chain would come off at the loose point!

So new chain and sprockets for me, whoopee!! More money!

smoky
25th April 2008, 16:55
Hey, thanks for your help guys, you were right. I've oiled the shit out of it and loosened the chain so at the tightest point it has about 2-3cm play, didn't want too much slack that the chain would come off at the loose point!

So new chain and sprockets for me, whoopee!! More money!

About $400 for 2 sprokets and an O'ring chain for my bandit last time.
But people tell me not to bother with O'ring chains

homer
25th April 2008, 17:02
About $400 for 2 sprokets and an O'ring chain for my bandit last time.
But people tell me not to bother with O'ring chains

you better buy an o ring chain m8
all you should be putting on .
if you go with a standard chain , and i know this , in 2 weeks "if you ride a few times in that 2 weeks " gurantee you ll be tightening it every time you look at the bike . oring or better .
I would never use a standard chain EVER

I would even look for the best of an o ring chain you can get
even if its dearer

MSTRS
25th April 2008, 17:08
you better buy an o ring chain m8
all you should be putting on .
if you go with a standard chain , and i know this , in 2 weeks "if you ride a few times in that 2 weeks " gurantee you ll be tightening it every time you look at the bike . oring or better .
I would never use a standard chain EVER

I would even look for the best of an o ring chain you can get
even if its dearer

RK X-ring....

homer
25th April 2008, 17:12
couldnt tell you m8 cause i dont know if its better or not
me id get a pro o ring chain thats all ive ever had .
dont even know whats on my bike now , but its an oring

homer
25th April 2008, 17:13
I always used to get a pro o ring heavy duty chain

MSTRS
25th April 2008, 17:23
What kills chains is wear inside the links...this is caused by grit that enters and/or no lube to keep the pins free.
An O-ring is just a chain with a rubber O-ring between the end plates and the rollers. This O ring keeps the lube in and the dust/grit out.
A X-ring does the same thing, but generally seals better and for longer before it wears out.
Some sort of lube must still be applied at regular intervals to the outside in all cases.

homer
25th April 2008, 17:32
What kills chains is wear inside the links...this is caused by grit that enters and/or no lube to keep the pins free.
An O-ring is just a chain with a rubber O-ring between the end plates and the rollers. This O ring keeps the lube in and the dust/grit out.
A X-ring does the same thing, but generally seals better and for longer before it wears out.
Some sort of lube must still be applied at regular intervals to the outside in all cases.

Yes its the dust in the internals of the link .
but on a standard chain you can oil it all ya like ill still stretch to shit

McJim
25th April 2008, 18:35
Putting a heavy duty chain on a 250 is REALLY gonna slow it down :rofl: I thought O ring was just another name for a standard chain.

98tls
25th April 2008, 18:56
Fwiw i dont understand why more dont use stealth/supersprox sprockets,mines on its second chain with sfa wear showing if any.

xwhatsit
25th April 2008, 21:37
Putting a heavy duty chain on a 250 is REALLY gonna slow it down :rofl: I thought O ring was just another name for a standard chain.That's correct, an O-ring/X-ring does have a certain amount of drag inherent.

I'm told by smart people that if you have an automatic chain oiler, non-O-ring (standard chains, Jimmy ;)) will be better than O-rings. The purpose of the O-ring is to keep a small amount of lube around the rollers. A chain oiler will be keeping fresh lube on those rollers all the time, and an O-ring (once they wear out, the lube disappears) will only be blocking fresh lube from the rollers.

Ixion
25th April 2008, 21:43
Chasps , its a Tu250. Hardly going to be ahrd on chains

It probably has the origianl cheap and nasty factory chain made out of compressed seaweed.

Replace it with a good quality chain, either plain or O ring as your pocket book dictates. The plain will be cheaper but you must be more conscientious about lubricating it, or it will wear faster and neagte your saving.

Chains wear out. It is a fact of life.

MSTRS
26th April 2008, 08:01
Yes its the dust in the internals of the link .
but on a standard chain you can oil it all ya like ill still stretch to shit
This 'stretch' you mention...is a common misconception. Chains do not stretch as such...it is wear within the link/rollers that makes it appear to stretch.



It probably has the original cheap and nasty factory chain made out of compressed seaweed.

Replace it with a good quality chain, either plain or O ring as your pocket book dictates. The plain will be cheaper but you must be more conscientious about lubricating it, or it will wear faster and neagte your saving.

Chains wear out. It is a fact of life.

Yep. Yep. And Yep.

xwhatsit
26th April 2008, 13:39
Chasps , its a Tu250. Hardly going to be ahrd on chains
I dunno, those little 250 thumpers like my bike and GN250s (which is what a TU250 is) seem to chew through chains quite quickly. Under-engineered cush drive, harsh transmission, and thumper power pulses are pretty hard on the chain.

homer
26th April 2008, 19:13
This 'stretch' you mention...is a common misconception. Chains do not stretch as such...it is wear within the link/rollers that makes it appear to stretch.


Yep. Yep. And Yep.

yep sorry thats what i ment i know they dont physically stretch..lol

Metalor
26th April 2008, 21:01
Shit!! $400?! Well, don't think I'll be getting a sprocket set with the chain!

Hopefully the sprockets will last a while longer.... how much is a decent O-ring chain usually? I've been looking on the net to see what size chain to get but can't seem to find any info. Anyone have an idea?

Surely $400 for sprockets is waaaay too much?

kiwi cowboy
26th April 2008, 21:07
Shit!! $400?! Well, don't think I'll be getting a sprocket set with the chain!

Hopefully the sprockets will last a while longer.... how much is a decent O-ring chain usually? I've been looking on the net to see what size chain to get but can't seem to find any info. Anyone have an idea?

Surely $400 for sprockets is waaaay too much?

the 400 would be for the sprockets AND chain i think.

Metalor
26th April 2008, 21:12
Still heaps more than I can afford :P

will have to just get a new chain for now. Just need to find out where from..

Jantar
26th April 2008, 21:54
There is no way that you should pay $400 for a chain and sprocket set for a Volty. I would say no more than $250 max. If anyone quotes you more than this then import a set from the states.

http://www.mawonline.com/rk.htm#Chain/sprocket%20kits

Metalor
26th April 2008, 23:53
OK awesome, thanks heaps!