Test... Just testing new bike cams.

[Sparky Bills]

What do people think?
Hope the link works.
Now for sale.. $295 plus $25 for a 2G SD card.
Comes with All sorts of different mounts including a tank mount.
I have tested it out and it looks sweet!
Will see if I can put a link to my footage soon.

Is in a waterproof box and takes 2 AAA batteries.
Will post some more details on the actual camera asap.

www.goprocamera.com

www.goprocamera.com/index5.htm

[mowgli]

I don't get it. The link doesn't mention bike cams.

[Sparky Bills]

Just hold your horses. Im uploading my footage onto youtube as we speak.

[mowgli]

Just hold your horses. Im uploading my footage onto youtube as we speak.

Ahhh, now it works. Looks like good value. I was looking at a bullet cam and Archos setup until I noted the cost and sanity kicked in :)

[Sparky Bills]

These cameras seem to work sweet!
Ive had it down on the side fairing so you can see the front wheel and fork etc.
Looks great! Even look good doing wheelies etc.:msn-wink:

[mowgli]

Did you buy in direct from overseas or from a local importer?

[Sparky Bills]

I work at Motomart in Lower Hutt. We have bought a pile from a New Zealand Wholesaler.

Am still waiting for Youtube to upload.

[zeocen]

I remember a few months ago watching an MX racer win his race, he had one of those cameras strapped to his helmet. The audio and video was amazing, especially around loud ass MX bikes and constant jumps etc.

/edit, hey! it's on the front page of the site http://www.goprocamera.com/, bottom right-ish. :D

[mowgli]

Is it standard USB mass storage (like a pen drive) or do you need to install specific drivers on your PC to access the footage. The website doesn't mention (as far as I can see) which codec is used?

[Sparky Bills]

I remember a few months ago watching an MX racer win his race, he had one of those cameras strapped to his helmet. The audio and video was amazing, especially around loud ass MX bikes and constant jumps etc.


Yeah you can change to sound input. Has two settings. Lo and Hi.
Lo is used if its on a bike etc. Just tones down all the wind noise. The sound was great on my test run. Camera stayed nice and stable too.

[skelstar]

Looks damn cool. Fairly reasonable resolution too... (513x384) but not widescreen.

[Sparky Bills]

Is it standard USB mass storage (like a pen drive) or do you need to install specific drivers on your PC to access the footage. The website doesn't mention (as far as I can see) which codec is used?


Std usb mass storage.
Plug in and away you go.
The sound doesnt work with Windows Vista. But I have downloaded a new media player called VLC media player. Its works fine with that.

[mowgli]

Std usb mass storage. Plug in and away you go.
Great

The sound doesnt work with Windows Vista. But I have downloaded a new media player called VLC media player. Its works fine with that.
Even better. This means that it probably uses one of those nasty, free, opensource codecs. Excellent, should work with Linux then.

[henry]

should work with Linux then.

Yeah, what ever...

[glice]

how much are they from motomart?

[henry]

how much are they from motomart?

Scroll up.

And where's that youtube link you've been promising or is it still uploading?

[mowgli]

Scroll up.

And where's that youtube link you've been promising or is it still uploading?
You forget. He's using Vista :2thumbsup

[glice]

Scroll up.

right, sory. I hate it when people do that.

[Sparky Bills]

I tried to load it onto youtube, but think ive done something wrong.
Ive never done it before.

Am getting advise, so hope to get it sorted asap!

[HornetBoy]

Great
Excellent, should work with Linux then.

linux ....:blink::sick: honestly why not just go to xp ....

[mowgli]

linux ....:blink::sick: honestly why not just go to xp ....
OT: Cost might have something to do with it.

[HungusMaximist]

Anybody here wanna 'be a hero' ?

Their motto is pretty funny.

[quallman1234]

Awesome dad's been looking for a helmet cam alot recently.

Got any in stock?

[henry]

I had a look in Mototmart yesterday. They have heaps of them.

The system looks pretty sweet. The camera is a bit cheap but the mounts are good.

Can't wait for those movies to finish uploading so I can check to video quality.

[skelstar]

Think I'll look at getting one of these once I can get over to Motomart.

[quallman1234]

Got one of martin today with dad (He's using it for trial riding and im using it for my racing).

Might go for a quick blat up piecock tommorow and post some footage up or go for a bit of a trial ride at artea block, See how it goes.

Chur

[Sparky Bills]

Here ya go.
Just a short clip with no sound. but you got the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKqo45JxRuw

Unknown test pilot on unknown road.

[cowboyz]

that looks pretty steady. nice work.

I never noticed the motorway drop away like that before...

[Sparky Bills]

Yeah it does more than you think aye.:rockon:

[zeocen]

This guy uses the Hero cam too, straps it onto the front of his MX helmet chin guard area. http://www.livevideo.com/Donco/

<div><embed src="http://www.livevideo.com/flvplayer/embed/9A1653B51F4646C781452153FCD4FE29" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" quality="high" WIDTH="445" HEIGHT="369" wmode="transparent"></embed><br/><a href="http://www.livevideo.com/video/embedLink/9A1653B51F4646C781452153FCD4FE29/548546/richloam-3-2-08-mike-goes-wadi.aspx">Richloam 3-2-08 Mike goes wading.</a></div>

[Peeteey]

Hi all.
Re. these Hero cams.
On the website they are selling these Hero cams for $130-150ish U.S. What do they go for here?
For lots less or even a similar price you can find cams that will give you nicer quality. These are waterproof tho which is nice.
I use a Sanyo Xacti C1 that I picked up second hand fo $150. Great quality and very small and light so can be mounted all over the place. Also have a C5 ($200) that I am going to use as a backwards pointing cam.
Check some of my vids on Youtube for examples and let me know what you think.
http://www.youtube.com/user/peeteey
Am still playing with mounts and having great fun with them. Am going to test a 'fork cam' tomorrow like Sparky Bills posted a link for. Should be easy to setup.

[henry]

I bought a Gopro earlier this week. The camera itself isn't brilliant, not mini DV quality but better than the average digi cam.
The big selling point for me is the mounting system. It's really flexible meaning you can put the camera almost any where. No dodgy camera setups.
I have a mini dv cam and was thinking about getting some of those ram mounts but you'd have to buy half a dozen of then and it still wouldn't be as flexible.

[avgas]

what does the tank mount look like?

[Sparky Bills]

what does the tank mount look like?



Ill see if I can get a pic posted up for you.
Its a big sucktion cup.

[ajturbo]

wowo.. they are going FAST.... ( well faster than i would on a bike that has knobbly tyres..)

[imdying]

On a similar topic.

I was at Fry's Electrical in the states a month a go, they had a nifty wee device. Essentially it's a USB memory stick for $100USD, that takes 2 rca inputs (sound and video), and saves the stream to the flash memory on board. Once you're done, you just take it off the bike and plug it into your PC :) Lets you use any camera and mic, so you could stealthily mount a wee pencil cam :yes:

[imdying]

I've looked, but I can't find it on their site... I do however have some video that I shot of it :whistle: I'll review it, and see what I can find...

[Dave-]

eew....rather spend 3x more money get a canon TX1 an 8gb sandisk SD card and achieve 100x better results.

[Coyote]

Here ya go.
Just a short clip with no sound. but you got the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKqo45JxRuw

Unknown test pilot on unknown road.
Never seen that road before. Must be in Germany :whistle:

Gosh, I want a 1000. Unless I can get my 400 to do that :laugh:

[henry]

eew....rather spend 3x more money get a canon TX1 an 8gb sandisk SD card and achieve 100x better results.

The Gopro has a data rate of 4Mbps vs the Canon at 35Mbps so that's only 9x better.

Plus the Gopro will record an hour on a 2GB card so you'll need to buy at least 16GB worth of cards on top of your purchase price.

Plus there is the mounting system. Good luck with that.

And I'm pretty sure you'll be way more upset than me when the camera falls off and smashes to bits on the road.

But anyway, go for it. Can't wait to see your HD vids. Post us a link when they're done.

[BIGBOSSMAN]

eew....rather spend 3x more money get a canon TX1 an 8gb sandisk SD card and achieve 100x better results.

Funny that, I've borrowed one from work to trial on the bike. Video quality is primo, but it uses motion JPEG to record which takes up shit loads of storage.
1280 x 720P though! It just means buying a few large capacity SD cards...

[Peeteey]

Funny that, I've borrowed one from work to trial on the bike. Video quality is primo, but it uses motion JPEG to record which takes up shit loads of storage.
1280 x 720P though! It just means buying a few large capacity SD cards...

HD would definately be a great way to go but it's bloody expensive. If you're on a budget (like me *sniff*) you should look into cameras that record MPEG4, the newer the better.
I use a Sanyo Xacti and I think they rock. Cost me about $150ish S/H so I got two! Have yet to use two on a ride but use one almost every ride now.
The more modern ones use the newer MPEG4 compression (H.264 I think?) which means nice quality and very small file sizes.
On my older ones I get about 40-60 mins on a 1gb card and a full battery cycle. Thats at 640x480, best quality it can do which is pretty good. Records straight to an SD card. The quality is a million times nicer than those Hero ones as far as I've seen.
They're about the size of a large cigarette packet and about the same weight too.

[erik]

On a similar topic.

I was at Fry's Electrical in the states a month a go, they had a nifty wee device. Essentially it's a USB memory stick for $100USD, that takes 2 rca inputs (sound and video), and saves the stream to the flash memory on board. Once you're done, you just take it off the bike and plug it into your PC :) Lets you use any camera and mic, so you could stealthily mount a wee pencil cam :yes:

That sounds pretty good. Any idea what resolution it records at?

My camera set up I use at track days uses a security bullet camera (CCD chip) and a microphone made up from a circuit I found on the net, plugged into a jxd900 portable media player. The jxd900 has a flash drive and takes SD cards. The video is only 320x240 pixels and is fairly highly compressed, it gets a bit blocky sometimes. It can record probably 4 hours plus on a 2GB card.

A usb stick with RCA inputs is really all that's needed, although I guess its nice being able to review (and show off...) your videos at the track. Can be useful if you're trying to figure out why you fell off.

[CookMySock]

linux ....:blink::sick: honestly why not just go to xp ....because no one can tell you what to do. It's a different feeling.

I couldn't give a shit about the cost, but NO cunt tells me what to do, least of all microshit or telecunt.

DB

[HornetBoy]

because no one can tell you what to do. It's a different feeling.

I couldn't give a shit about the cost, but NO cunt tells me what to do, least of all microshit or telecunt.

DB

Ah yes ,there is that aspect of it. bah just tell em to piss off (id say just about everyone does :lol:)

[imdying]

eew....rather spend 3x more money get a canon TX1 an 8gb sandisk SD card and achieve 100x better results.Right... or have three of the cheaper cameras, giving you 3 streams to mix later, giving a 100x more entertaining video to watch than any single camera every could.

And I'm pretty sure you'll be way more upset than me when the camera falls off and smashes to bits on the road.And that ;)

That sounds pretty good. Any idea what resolution it records at?No idea at all, there was so much to see!

A usb stick with RCA inputs is really all that's needed, although I guess its nice being able to review (and show off...) your videos at the track. Can be useful if you're trying to figure out why you fell off.I will try to find out more.

[BIGBOSSMAN]

Right... or have three of the cheaper cameras, giving you 3 streams to mix later, giving a 100x more entertaining video to watch than any single camera every could.

Trialled the TX1 on the bike yesterday, looks really great but my mount is too shaky. I've got a tank mount one arriving on Friday so it'll be a lot more stable.
So, I'll be able to mount my S5iS on the tank mount and the TX1 at the rear of the bike (I'll make up a bracket for it) at the Kiwitrackday on the 30th. Primo!

[imdying]

What we need is a 2.5" drive that can handle four streams at once... I'm guessing they exist, but are 'broadcast quality' and cost a shit load. From experience, you can never have too many cameras.

[BIGBOSSMAN]

I'll buy a 16gb SD card for the TX1 and take some 720 x 1280 stuff, the S5is is 640 x whatever so my 4gb card is good for an hour of recording. This IS good fun!

[erik]

What we need is a 2.5" drive that can handle four streams at once... I'm guessing they exist, but are 'broadcast quality' and cost a shit load. From experience, you can never have too many cameras.

The usb thing with AV inputs wasn't one of these was it?

http://www.viewtech.co.nz/product.pasp?categoryid=23&productid=39

Because if it was, it doesn't record to itself, it just sends the signals to a computer.

My understanding is you're better off with a flash drive because they're solid state. I'd think a hard drive might be affected by the vibrations in a bike.

[Biggles2000]

Hi all.
Re. these Hero cams.
On the website they are selling these Hero cams for $130-150ish U.S. What do they go for here?
For lots less or even a similar price you can find cams that will give you nicer quality. These are waterproof tho which is nice.
I use a Sanyo Xacti C1 that I picked up second hand fo $150. Great quality and very small and light so can be mounted all over the place. Also have a C5 ($200) that I am going to use as a backwards pointing cam.
Check some of my vids on Youtube for examples and let me know what you think.
http://www.youtube.com/user/peeteey
Am still playing with mounts and having great fun with them. Am going to test a 'fork cam' tomorrow like Sparky Bills posted a link for. Should be easy to setup.

Good video.

[CookMySock]

Ah yes ,there is that aspect of it. bah just tell em to piss off (id say just about everyone does :lol:)aha! but they will find another way to put their finger in yer ass, and you do something that is dissapproved of, they will wiggle it just a little bit to remind you. You wont see it yet because you are already deep in it over your head, but stand back from it for a few years and you will see the rot and smell the stench, and realise how deeply it had you hooked.

Walk away. The freedom from the outside is scary and breathtaking at first, but you will see that this is actually normal.

DB

[henry]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku427Fmv0GU

[BIGBOSSMAN]

Me and Biggles08 recorded some footage on our Coro Loop run yesterday on the Canon TX1, sadly this device is extremely sensitive to vibration - on both Biggles and my tank mount the video is damn near unwatcheable. I thought my Ram Solutions stem mount was the problem and purchased a tank mount but even this didn't sort the shakies out! I could gaffer tape it to my head I guess.

:shit:

[Sparky Bills]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku427Fmv0GU



Thats some great footage!

[henry]

Thats some great footage!

Thanks.
It's a bit tricky this video stuff. Shooting through the screen isn't working for me. The Rimutaka one has too many reflections.

In the next one I pushed the camera further into the cockpit but then it bounced around too much.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3O78IufVaFo

Shooting into the sun isn't great either.

More practice needed which means more time on the bike. Bugger :)

[Peeteey]

Good video.

Thanks Biggles, having good fun experimenting with them.
I see you're on the peninsular as well. It really is a hard life having such glorious roads right at our doorsteps isn't it? :yes:
When you're next out cruising, gimme a yell, am always up for a nice cruise!

[Peeteey]

Me and Biggles08 recorded some footage on our Coro Loop run yesterday on the Canon TX1, sadly this device is extremely sensitive to vibration - on both Biggles and my tank mount the video is damn near unwatcheable. I thought my Ram Solutions stem mount was the problem and purchased a tank mount but even this didn't sort the shakies out! I could gaffer tape it to my head I guess.

:shit:

Hey Bossman! Re: your camera vibration issues. I found on my cameras that setting it to Sports mode (if it has one) usually helps alot as it generally speeds up the shutter for fast motion footage. This wont help the vibration but it will help when you use stabilisation, it won't look so blurry.
Also, keep the ISO setting as low as you can get away with. The higher the number, the longer the shutter has to stay open (generally)
Speaking of stabilisation, your machine has Optical stabilisation. That doesn't help?? Optical is the best of the different types.
Do you run it thru stabilisation software as well? I use Deshaker 2.2, a plugin for Virtualdub. Both free and brilliant! Excellent results with Deshaker, much better than all the expensive 'pro' programs I've seen (including the one that comes with Premiere)
As for head cams with a camera shaped like yours, check out my vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcJqEFjywMo
Instead of gaffer I used an old tyre innertube cut to length. :niceone:

Have fun,
Pete
:2thumbsup

[Peeteey]

Me and Biggles08 recorded some footage on our Coro Loop run yesterday on the Canon TX1, sadly this device is extremely sensitive to vibration - on both Biggles and my tank mount the video is damn near unwatcheable. I thought my Ram Solutions stem mount was the problem and purchased a tank mount but even this didn't sort the shakies out! I could gaffer tape it to my head I guess.

:shit:

Oh yea, Bossman, try mounting your camera down low. The lower it is and the more central it is on the bike, the less vibration you'll get.
Am happy with my results here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxBbqzzuHTo

To get that footage, I hung the camera upsidedown so it can get nice and low ...
Now I'm making a protective screen to go over the front of the camera to protect against stones etc from the wheel.