Parking your motorcycle on the street in Auckland - here is how it works.

[TOTO]

Ok, today I was parking on Karangahape Road in the pay and display area. just got off the bike and saw a parking warden. Good chance to ask a few questions I taught. Here is our conversation:




Hey there, ive parked in the 60 minutes pay and display area. Is that ok or should I park on the footpath ?

No no, you are fine there. Its NOT allowed to park on the footpath in Auckland.

Do I need to buy a ticket ?

If you are parked here (60 min pay and display area), as you are, for 10 to 20 minutes you dont need to pay. If you are staying for the whole 60 minutes, pay for the ticket and put it in your pocket for pease of mind. If a traffic officer comes along and issues you a fine you will get it by mail. Just give a call to the head office and quite the number of the ticket you have paid for and it will be cleared. In reality we do not issue fines to bikes in a pay and display area if they stay for the specified amount of time.

So even if I dont pay and stay for the whole 60 minutes that will be OK ? (I say in disbelief)

YES. But you will get a fine if you exeed the specified limit which in your case here is 60 min by more than 10 min.

O great, thanks so much for that.

You are most wellcome.

Have a nice day.

Ride Safe, bye.





What a nice guy. So there you have it falks straight from the horses mouth. Just goes to show that you can get valuable info in a nice manner if you are just nice to people. :)

[avgas]

There is a law for parking a motorcycle on the footpath......i thought it was obstructing the footpath

[BiK3RChiK]

heh! Yeah, right!! would be my reaction...

Interesting convo.

[sAsLEX]

yes there is a law, and it says you can NOT park on the footpath.

Not on the footpath owned by the council

Many buildings boundries extend out onto the footpath so you can park there.

[TOTO]

Not on the footpath owned by the council

Many buildings boundries extend out onto the footpath so you can park there.

grey area as I see it.

[disenfranchised]

Ok, today I was parking on Karangahape Road in the pay and display area. just got off the bike and saw a parking warden. Good chance to ask a few questions I taught. Here is our conversation:

Pay and display on K'rd...is that by the cemetary? Why not just park on the grass, then its not on the footpath or in the pay and display area.:clap:

Hmmm, Good to hear that response though...although if it's not written down I'd be questioning it....another parking officer might have a different opinion.
They never seem to be very consistent.

[Luckylegs]

...straight from the horses mouth.

Dont stand too close, they'll kick ya from behind when you least expect it.....

"Mr Eds" interpratation of the rules is probably just one of many, but I agree it was an interesting conversation.

[xwhatsit]

Yes, I heard the same thing regarding Pay and Display parking spaces via a warden in Parnell. Just park there and don't worry about the ticket, but don't go over-time.

I took his advice with a grain of salt though, as he was more interested in my bike `you put DROP bars on it -- tha's fookin grouse, tha is... ye noo, back an Eeeeedinbooorough ma Dad used tae ha' a BEEEZER....'

[Ixion]

I can confirm that it is ACC policy not to seek payment for motorcycles in a Pay and Display PROVIDED that

1. The motorcycle is parked as reasonably as possible - end on to the kerb so several bikes can share a park
2. There is not a council parking building or dedicated bike park within 'reasonable' distance. I guess 'reasonable' is open to variable interpretation.

[sAsLEX]

grey area as I see it.

Pretty clear cut to me.

[rwh]

Pretty clear cut to me.

It's an interesting one - in many cases, the road rules apply to a road defined as an area to which the public have access, whether as of right or not (or something similar). So perhaps you're not even allowed to park on a footpath in your own front garden, unless you have a gate?

Richard

[Forest]

Before anyone tries, please remember that there are multiple types of machines.

Some machines dispense tickets i.e. Pay & Display. I assume that these machines are the ones covered by the advice in the original post - since there is nowhere to put a ticket on a motorbike.

However some machines take payment for a specific parking spot (which you select on the machines). I assume that these machines are not covered by the advice - since there is no ticket to display.

[TOTO]

However some machines take payment for a specific parking spot (which you select on the machines). I assume that these machines are not covered by the advice - since there is no ticket to display.

+1 on that

[Toaster]

Some building owners will now tow bikes. I know the Gen-I building in the Auckland CBD has stopped allowing bikers to park outside around the perimeter.

[WarlockNZ]

I can confirm that it is ACC policy not to seek payment for motorcycles in a Pay and Display PROVIDED that

1. The motorcycle is parked as reasonably as possible - end on to the kerb so several bikes can share a park
2. There is not a council parking building or dedicated bike park within 'reasonable' distance. I guess 'reasonable' is open to variable interpretation.

Quote your source

[klingon]

I can confirm that it is ACC policy not to seek payment for motorcycles in a Pay and Display PROVIDED that

1. The motorcycle is parked as reasonably as possible - end on to the kerb so several bikes can share a park
2. There is not a council parking building or dedicated bike park within 'reasonable' distance. I guess 'reasonable' is open to variable interpretation.


Quote your source

I can confirm that Ixion is correct. The source is the guy in charge of Parking for Auckland City Council - Brian Tomlinson.

An article will be appearing in the next edition of Rush Hour Magazine to explain the details, but basically the rules are:
- You may park for free in an Auckland City parking building
- You may park in a Pay & Display space without paying, on condition you are considerate and follow all the other rules (eg stick to the time limit)
- You may not park on the footpath
- You may not park on yellow lines, bus stops, clearways, etc.

Mr Les Mason (President of BRONZ Auckland) was also interviewed for the article and he gave his opinion about the drawbacks of this system, including the lack of clarity about what constitutes a 'footpath'.

I was involved in a photo shoot to illustrate the article and the nice parking warden guided me exactly where and how to park my bike for the 'right' and 'wrong' illustrations.

Rush Hour Magazine is available free from a lot of bike shops (I just saw it at Cycle Treads the other day). The new edition is the May/June one, and should be out shortly.

[Gubb]

Wow. Both Ixion and Les Mason agree on something.

What are the chances of that?

[Ixion]

Wow. Both Ixion and Les Mason agree on something.

What are the chances of that?

Slight. Very slight. Probably never happen again. That Mason geezer's a contrary old bastard, I hardly ever agree with anything he says.

[WarlockNZ]

more to the point, what are the chances of getting something in writing ?? .. LOL .. i'll be grabbing a copy of the mag and carrying a copy of the relevant article with me at all times :)

[TOTO]

more to the point, what are the chances of getting something in writing ?? .. LOL .. i'll be grabbing a copy of the mag and carrying a copy of the relevant article with me at all times :)

I think that a good idea.i'll do that too. when does that rush hour magasine come out ?

[Sam I Am]

How many Auckland City parking buildings are there ?

is it just these 5 ?

http://maps.google.co.nz/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=107140403505099436124.00044a3d5ea6d9e9198ef&ll=-36.851329,174.761066&spn=0.040728,0.076046&z=14

[Ixion]

Yes. But Sky City also allow bikes to park for free.

Some Wilson's Parking do, some don't some will have you towed even if you've taken a ticket and are willing to pay!!

[TOTO]

Yes. But Sky City also allow bikes to park for free.

Some Wilson's Parking do, some don't some will have you towed even if you've taken a ticket and are willing to pay!!

I called wilsont when I was starting my riding and they told me that bikes are wellcome to park fro free in the whole auckland area. That was some months back but I wouldn't think they have changed it.

[WarlockNZ]

That was some months back but I wouldn't think they have changed it.

i have taken the liberty of emailing Wilson Parking for a written response.

I'll let you know what they have to say.

[PrincessBandit]

I really appreciated the friendly parking warden I spoke with while I was down in Tauranga last; was about to park in Pay and Display (quite ignorant of the free bike parking down there) and quite coincidentally a p-w came over to have a look at my bike and chat. He asked if I'd already paid and when I said no, he promptly pointed out the free parking areas. What a sweetie! (He is a biker too, so I guess that explains why!) You'd think that Auckland would have much more free bike parking to encourage fewer cars in the central city (and I don't mean areas which then mean a half hour walk to get anywhere near the inner city). I looooove seeing all the bikes and scooters parked down Symonds St in the uni campus! (Drool and ogle as I wander past).

[danchop]

asb building in albert clamps bikes

[HungusMaximist]

asb building in albert clamps bikes

Really? Those bastards!

It'd be better off if they just put a warning first.

We'll have to get a welder like that dude did on Close Up about a week or so ago when his car got clamped. He just happened to be a welder and pretty much spliced the clamp in half. :headbang:

[TOTO]

i have taken the liberty of emailing Wilson Parking for a written response.

I'll let you know what they have to say.

Great stuff will be interesting :)

[scissorhands]

So should I pay the $80 for my footpath infringements seeing as I was ALLOWED to do it for 10plus years until a topical article appeares in a magazine that I was not privy too? My beef is I should have had a warning that things have changed, not just receive an infringement. Thanks to everyone who has done legwork clarifying this... Today I parked again on the footpath outside the ACC building in Graham St...just a old habit

[scumdog]

pretty much spliced the clamp in half. :headbang:

SPLICED in half??

Now THERE'S an oxymoron......:wacko:

[Scouse]

What a nice guy. So there you have it falks straight from the horses mouth. Just goes to show that you can get valuable info in a nice manner if you are just nice to people. :)Fuck that I dont belive in being nice to parking nazi's they are scum, treat them the same as a peice of dog shit wots on the footpath that you just stood on

[Morcs]

Not on the footpath owned by the council

Many buildings boundries extend out onto the footpath so you can park there.

Yes but then those buildings can call towies on ya.

Sanx and myself used to park outside HSBC HQ in town, one day they started clamping all the bikes. Was funny as it was a different towing company who had only put their sign up that day.

We picked sanx's bike up and lifted it, clamp and all, onto westfield property :)

My bike was parked a few meters away, on westfield property and wasnt touched. A few weeks later westfield management complained to me saying it is a hazard to children climbing on it (it was in a out of the way corner) HAZARD WTF, im the hazard to people climbing on my bike... used to see people leaning on whilst having a smoke... they got the hard word :spanking:

[WarlockNZ]

Dear Murray

Thank you for your e-mail.

According to Wilson Parking policy you have to rent a car bay then you can parking your Motorcycles on it.


Regards,

Tim Wu

timw@wilsonparking.co.nz

[Ixion]

WTF does that mean ? Rent a car bay ?

EDIT: Being as such stupidmess irritates me, I went and looked up their terms and Conditions on their website

Nothing at all specific about motorcycles. They refer strictly to "vehicles" . A motorcycle is a vehicle.

"# You must purchase a ticket from the pay and display machine and display the ticket on your dashboard with the date and expiry time clearly visible." (Pay and display car park ) Or "You must pay on entry or pay upon leaving the carpark in your vehicle." (normal one)

And you must not park in reserved areas, obstruct, must have WoF and Rego etc. If you don't

"If you contravene clauses 1 to 4(a) of the above conditions, you agree that we may apply a wheel clamp to your vehicle and/or remove your vehicle by having it towed at your risk and expense and we may hold the vehicle until all outstanding debt has been paid and in addition to or as an alternative to issuing a notice as set out in clause 4 above. If we apply a wheel clamp to your car, you agree that the wheel clamp will be removed only upon payment of a minimum of $80.00 release fee and payment of any outstanding debt."


So, if you are willing to pay and comply with the display ticket shit, then they have no legal grounds for clamping or towing, and are liable to have the shit sued out of them.

[WarlockNZ]

WTF does that mean ? Rent a car bay ?

Means you have to pay to park your bike.

[TOTO]

na , thats some guy in the office who hasn;t even read their praking policy.

[musicman]

Dear Murray

Thank you for your e-mail.

According to Wilson Parking policy you have to rent a car bay then you can parking your Motorcycles on it.


Regards,

Tim Wu

timw@wilsonparking.co.nz


na , thats some guy in the office who hasn;t even read their praking policy.

I'm guessing he hasn't read much of anything in English...