zzr250 vs drz400sm

[carver]

I have been challenged.
someone has the belief that motards are know for their shite handling, and wants to race me and my DRZ-SM on a twisty bit of road.
he is 19 and will be riding a ZZR 250, who wants to watch?
i have a good road up a certain mountain in mind, fingers crossed for saturday!

oh, the same guy really wants to race me and believes that his ZZR can beat busa's!

im worried now!

[McDuck]

I have been challenged.
someone has the belief that motards are know for their shite handling, and wants to race me and my DRZ-SM on a twisty bit of road.
he is 19 and will be riding a ZZR 250, who wants to watch?
i have a good road up a certain mountain in mind, fingers crossed for saturday!

oh, the same guy really wants to race me and believes that his ZZR can beat busa's!

im worried now!

You are a moron arnt you.

[carver]

You are a moron arnt you.

mormon...cant read?

look at the potential!

[limbimtimwim]

ZZR250 probably about the same speed in a straight line. I'm a bit fat and my DR-Z isn't much faster than a Hyobag 250 ridden by a skinny guy to about110km/h. Your DR-Z probably isn't even broken in yet, it will free up considerably about 1000km. Around corners, it's down to the skill of the rider. A ZZR250 probably does beat a 'bus to about 30km/h.

However, you are a tool for doing it on the road. Why not wait until the opening round of VMCC or do a trackday and compare times?

[quallman1234]

Sounds like a waste of time to me.

[avgas]

haha classic.
you dont need twisties boss - the DRZ will eat his sewing machine for lunch.
the ZZR250 was the first bike i was dissapointed in.

[carver]

ZZR250 probably about the same speed in a straight line. I'm a bit fat and my DR-Z isn't much faster than a Hyobag 250 ridden by a skinny guy to about110km/h. Your DR-Z probably isn't even broken in yet, it will free up considerably about 1000km. Around corners, it's down to the skill of the rider. A ZZR250 probably does beat a 'bus to about 30km/h.

However, you are a tool for doing it on the road. Why not wait until the opening round of VMCC or do a trackday and compare times?

my DRZ aint even been run in properly, 5m from the shop with 0kms on it i had it on the back wheel

im a pretty good rider by others judgment, not very smooth, but fast enough.

why the road?
cause i dont need to pay $100+ to have fun, and i also dont need to ride a million times on a perfect surface to be fast.
a windy bush road in the middle of nowhere up a mountain is much more me.
the road is where it is at.
im a skinny kid too...

[avgas]

ZZR250 probably about the same speed in a straight line. I'm a bit fat and my DR-Z isn't much faster than a Hyobag 250 ridden by a skinny guy to about110km/h.

Your kidding me right???? The DR350 i rode a while back was quicker than a CBR250 0-100.

[carver]

haha classic.
you dont need twisties boss - the DRZ will eat his sewing machine for lunch.
the ZZR250 was the first bike i was dissapointed in.

so, what are they like?


Sounds like a waste of time to me.

i will put down some stakes..a few hundy should make it interesting as with all street racing

[scracha]

so, what are they like?



i will put down some stakes..a few hundy should make it interesting as with all street racing

Oy...I baggzied being the bookie on your other race vs waylander. Can I place a bet that one of ya's don't make their next birthday?

[Morcs]

ZZR = Uber gay

uber gay = slow

[Disco Dan]

ZZR = Uber gay

uber gay = slow

ZZR ? I assume your ONLY talking about the 250cc version :whistle:

The ZZR1100 would give your TL a very close run for it's money...

[tri boy]

a windy bush road in the middle of nowhere up a mountain is much more me.
the road is where it is at.


That winding bush road, (and others like it) is also where kids walk along. old ladies drive, on their way to visit family, and farmers move stock to other paddocks.

I couldn't give a fuck if your splattered against a strainer post, or rearranged by a stray bull, but if your testosterone takes out a child walking home from school, I'll have more than a few words heading your way.

Pull your fucking head in!

[FilthyLuka]

you know cops are kiwibikers too right?

Tool

[Morcs]

ZZR ? I assume your ONLY talking about the 250cc version :whistle:

The ZZR1100 would give your TL a very close run for it's money...

of course :D

[mark247]

jesus your good at winding people up carver. you are getting green rep.


and if this road is the road i am thinking it will be then i am guessing you will barely be breaking the speed limit anyway...

[LilSel]

the ZZR250 was the first bike i was dissapointed in.


ZZR = Uber gay


Awwwe... C'mon guys... play nice!!! :blink:

[quallman1234]

i will put down some stakes..a few hundy should make it interesting as with all street racing

Hell even an average rider would beat a good rider on a DRZ400 versus a ZZR250, they are heavy whales.

although they do there job very well.

[Dargor]

Just thought i'd point it out.

why the road?
cause i dont need to pay $100+ to have fun


i will put down some stakes..a few hundy should make it interesting as with all street racing

Have fun and dont get pwned(by cattle sitting in the middle of the road).

[tri boy]

jesus your good at winding people up carver. you are getting green rep.


and if this road is the road i am thinking it will be then i am guessing you will barely be breaking the speed limit anyway...

If posts containing racing little wankers on public roads is what you puppies call "a good wind up", best you lot carry on doing what your good at.........:tugger:
It is in childish, and poor taste to take this approach. Return to bebo/dildo, or where ever the hell you lot crawled out from.
Mods, best you start thinking about if these posts(road race pissing contests) are what you want this site to be known for.
Tell me to fuck off, or whatever, but I'm sick of snot noses mouthing off behind keyboards. Yeah I'm fucked off, but in this PC bullshit age, nobody is berating the dropkicks, and those are the shitdicks who are killing innocent bystanders. Two teenage girls died last weekend, from guess what.....speeding drivers. It's all a big joke aye carver? Best you drag your scrawny arse down to the morgue for a good hard lesson, then up to A+E and watch the ambo's bring in more smashed up humans.

[carver]

That winding bush road, (and others like it) is also where kids walk along. old ladies drive, on their way to visit family, and farmers move stock to other paddocks.

I couldn't give a fuck if your splattered against a strainer post, or rearranged by a stray bull, but if your testosterone takes out a child walking home from school, I'll have more than a few words heading your way.

Pull your fucking head in!

spare you words for when it happens sunshine, i have never had a moment on that road yet.


you know cops are kiwibikers too right?

Tool

nope, dont overestimate the cops buddy, this aint some big brother freak show.


jesus your good at winding people up carver. you are getting green rep.


and if this road is the road i am thinking it will be then i am guessing you will barely be breaking the speed limit anyway...

thats the one..120kph tops.
im serious eh...i will race this n00b (race means a little faster than i normally ride)


If posts containing racing little wankers on public roads is what you puppies call "a good wind up", best you lot carry on doing what your good at.........:tugger:
It is in childish, and poor taste to take this approach. Return to bebo/dildo, or where ever the hell you lot crawled out from.
Mods, best you start thinking about if these posts(road race pissing contests) are what you want this site to be known for.
Tell me to fuck off, or whatever, but I'm sick of snot noses mouthing off behind keyboards. Yeah I'm fucked off, but in this PC bullshit age, nobody is berating the dropkicks, and those are the shitdicks who are killing innocent bystanders. Two teenage girls died last weekend, from guess what.....speeding drivers. It's all a big joke aye carver? Best you drag your scrawny arse down to the morgue for a good hard lesson, then up to A+E and watch the ambo's bring in more smashed up humans.

no problem dude, just remember what you said SPEEDING DRIVERS not riders.
its no joke man, im dead serious about doing this, come if you want, chain yourself to a tractor in the middle of the road and refuse to move...

the street racing and the "boy racer" scene from where we "crawled from" has been going on from before you were in nappies...

i think you need to calm down.

[EroSamnin]

Rock out with your e-Peen out!

Boo fucking hoo, a bit of going fast on a twisty road? Get over it, they are just doing what we all do. Even us slow riders on hyobags go as fast as humanly possible as soon as the twisties start. So what if there is ZZR following miles behind the mighty carvenator.

It's just a group ride, someone in the lead, someone behind.

[Morcs]

Jeesus guys... a thread about the fun of riding, the balls and the testosterone, and you have to go all Katman in it. :zzzz:

If ya dont like it, dont read the thread. Go sit in the touring forums or summat.

:rockon:

[mark247]

Rock out with your e-Peen out!

Boo fucking hoo, a bit of going fast on a twisty road? Get over it, they are just doing what we all do. Even us slow riders on hyobags go as fast as humanly possible as soon as the twisties start. So what if there is ZZR following miles behind the mighty carvenator.

It's just a group ride, someone in the lead, someone behind.

Exactly right

Old Tri boy is having a hernia over this ( he even pm'd me ) little "ride" or "race" or wahtever the fuck it is, and at the end of the day all the big guys on the thou's are go WAYYY faster up that certain road everyday.... FFS.

Im sure we are going to get another ear bashing but FARRR OUT.

[Sketchy_Racer]

If posts containing racing little wankers on public roads is what you puppies call "a good wind up", best you lot carry on doing what your good at.........:tugger:
It is in childish, and poor taste to take this approach. Return to bebo/dildo, or where ever the hell you lot crawled out from.
Mods, best you start thinking about if these posts(road race pissing contests) are what you want this site to be known for.
Tell me to fuck off, or whatever, but I'm sick of snot noses mouthing off behind keyboards. Yeah I'm fucked off, but in this PC bullshit age, nobody is berating the dropkicks, and those are the shitdicks who are killing innocent bystanders. Two teenage girls died last weekend, from guess what.....speeding drivers. It's all a big joke aye carver? Best you drag your scrawny arse down to the morgue for a good hard lesson, then up to A+E and watch the ambo's bring in more smashed up humans.

Your sick of this PC age?

You are the type of person that is making it the PC age.

Speeding kills huh? No it fucken doesn't. Rider/Driver error does.

Let these boys take some Personal Responsibility for thier actions. Something every cunt in this world seems to lack now. If they go for a hoon and fuck up there will be concequences for thier actions (I would like to say "just and fair" concequences but we all know that doesn't exist in NZ justice system)

Go for a hoon guys, just keep your head screwed on and don't out ride yourself!

[Disco Dan]

spare you words for when it happens sunshine

"when" ...hahaha I love it! :jerry:

[carver]

Rock out with your e-Peen out!

Boo fucking hoo, a bit of going fast on a twisty road? Get over it, they are just doing what we all do. Even us slow riders on hyobags go as fast as humanly possible as soon as the twisties start. So what if there is ZZR following miles behind the mighty carvenator.

It's just a group ride, someone in the lead, someone behind.


Jeesus guys... a thread about the fun of riding, the balls and the testosterone, and you have to go all Katman in it. :zzzz:

If ya dont like it, dont read the thread. Go sit in the touring forums or summat.

:rockon:


Exactly right

Old Tri boy is having a hernia over this ( he even pm'd me ) little "ride" or "race" or wahtever the fuck it is, and at the end of the day all the big guys on the thou's are go WAYYY faster up that certain road everyday.... FFS.

Im sure we are going to get another ear bashing but FARRR OUT.


Your sick of this PC age?

You are the type of person that is making it the PC age.

Speeding kills huh? No it fucken doesn't. Rider/Driver error does.

Let these boys take some Personal Responsibility for thier actions. Something every cunt in this world seems to lack now. If they go for a hoon and fuck up there will be concequences for thier actions (I would like to say "just and fair" concequences but we all know that doesn't exist in NZ justice system)

Go for a hoon guys, just keep your head screwed on and don't out ride yourself!

i agree with all of you.
however im feeling a little left out having not received a PM myself.

see all you's on the road!

[tri boy]

Fuckin juniors. Ya piss ya pants at the thought of real racing, but are willing to risk others on public roads.
And now piss brag about how good your at it in cyberspace.
Me a PC do gooder? Those that want to Really find out about that side of me, come and push buttons to my face.

Pathetic puppies.
And what is the difference between dreebs smashing up young lives in cars, or destroying them in a head on of two m/cycles?
Answer that one hotshot.

[RM125king]

Carver good on ya mate and everyone needs to calm down and get off his back. :whocares:

At some stage all of us have opened the throttle at some stage and had a shit load of fun and you take the consequences if you get caught. Let carver deal with it when he gets caught and then give him shit if you have to. :nono:

Im sick of everyone on this site has a winge everytime some one says they were doing a mono today or they left this guy behind doing this. Worry about your riding and i will worry about mine.

Anyways rant over. I got a super motard and i best thing i have ever ridden. Its a KTM 525 bored and stroked out to 580 with slipper clutch, akrapovic exhaust, etc.

Carver as soon as mine is road legal im keen as to hit some twisties with ya.

[carver]

Fuckin juniors. Ya piss ya pants at the thought of real racing, but are willing to risk others on public roads.
And now piss brag about how good your at it in cyberspace.
Me a PC do gooder? Those that want to Really find out about that side of me, come and push buttons to my face.

Pathetic puppies.
And what is the difference between dreebs smashing up young lives in cars, or destroying them in a head on of two m/cycles?
Answer that one hotshot.

and you love to slag us off in cyberspace...
how do you know we piss our pants at the thought of real racing?
im suprised i aint met you yet!
the difference is that its far less likely to happen dude, dont cry too much before it happens, the notorious "few" will have everything under control.

so what do you think will win?
ZZR or DRZ


Carver good on ya mate and everyone needs to calm down and get off his back. :whocares:

At some stage all of us have opened the throttle at some stage and had a shit load of fun and you take the consequences if you get caught. Let carver deal with it when he gets caught and then give him shit if you have to. :nono:

Im sick of everyone on this site has a winge everytime some one says they were doing a mono today or they left this guy behind doing this. Worry about your riding and i will worry about mine.

Anyways rant over. I got a super motard and i best thing i have ever ridden. Its a KTM 525 bored and stroked out to 580 with slipper clutch, akrapovic exhaust, etc.

Carver as soon as mine is road legal im keen as to hit some twisties with ya.

good on ya mate, il PM ya some details.
yeah, i get sick of it too, i have my own view on why some are so safety paranoid, and how everytime someone does something involving skill on a road they drag em down...

[marioc]

yeah go the ZZR....oh wait

[carver]

yeah go the ZZR....oh wait

might be stoner on board




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[Katman]

I'm with tri boy on this one (but you all knew I would be).

Bunch of wankers challenging each other to cock measuring contests.

[NOMIS]

Guys..

If they want to race are you going to be able to stop them??? no....
And you cant tell me you hit a 100 km road and when it says 35kmh for the next corner you actually slow down that much..

If you dont like the thread why read it.

He asked "who wanted to come and watch?" not
"if you have a problem please post as many bitchy comments here"

So let them be.. Yeh if they kill some one then they will have to deal with it huh.. and you don't even no what stretch of road it is so ....................

[Str8 Jacket]

He asked "who wanted to come and watch?" not
"if you have a problem please post as many bitchy comments here"


You havent quite got KB yet, have you! :msn-wink:

[inlinefour]

I have been challenged.
someone has the belief that motards are know for their shite handling, and wants to race me and my DRZ-SM on a twisty bit of road.
he is 19 and will be riding a ZZR 250, who wants to watch?
i have a good road up a certain mountain in mind, fingers crossed for saturday!

oh, the same guy really wants to race me and believes that his ZZR can beat busa's!

im worried now!

My DRZ400e with enduro gears was good for 152kph, with tard gearing it would go faster. Could wheelie in each gear, including top. The SM is a bit underpowered to my bike but thats not hard to change. Got a better rear wheel slide from a knobblie around the courner but full power traction at times was also a problem. If you get beaten by the ZZR then you should be put on a step thru and give the tard away. But if the other rider is good, it could possibly happen but saying its faster than a busa just means hes a plonker...

[carver]

I'm with tri boy on this one (but you all knew I would be).

Bunch of wankers challenging each other to cock measuring contests.

SO I SHOULD WIN THAT EASY


Guys..

If they want to race are you going to be able to stop them??? no....
And you cant tell me you hit a 100 km road and when it says 35kmh for the next corner you actually slow down that much..

If you dont like the thread why read it.

He asked "who wanted to come and watch?" not
"if you have a problem please post as many bitchy comments here"

So let them be.. Yeh if they kill some one then they will have to deal with it huh.. and you don't even no what stretch of road it is so ....................

good on ya mate, its all good!


My DRZ400e with enduro gears was good for 152kph, with tard gearing it would go faster. Could wheelie in each gear, including top. The SM is a bit underpowered to my bike but thats not hard to change. Got a better rear wheel slide from a knobblie around the courner but full power traction at times was also a problem. If you get beaten by the ZZR then you should be put on a set thru and give the tard away. But if the other rider is good, it could possibly happen but saying its faster than a busa just means hes a plonker...

i belive the latter to be true, the SM is pretty slow, sounds like the E is a weapon

[inlinefour]

i belive the latter to be true, the SM is pretty slow, sounds like the E is a weapon

Yea I took a standard SM for a spin and was most disgusted with the effort the motor was making. Was a dealership bike so I abused it fow awhile and took it back quick:devil2: why someone would want the SM bike is beyond me, you'd look bloody funny as I blew past you on my E and Ive got the knobblies on. Have upset a few sportsbike riders on the twisties and passed them after being unimpressed with their cournering.:spanking: Funny how they get upset when they see the enduro tyres., let alone they got passed by a smaller enduro bike. I allways thought it was an indication of their lack of riding ability, but we all know some are true legends in their own minds.:rolleyes:

[quallman1234]

Still got your old DRZ400 IL4, there's something not so standard about it, much faster than any other DRZ400 ive ridden or we have owned (Owned another one at one point!).

Its a beast. Does good wheelies too! Like you say. Mainly been used for trial riding these days by my brother.

[Weaver]

im a skinny kid too...

Do you weigh 64kgs?

[carver]

Yea I took a standard SM for a spin and was most disgusted with the effort the motor was making. Was a dealership bike so I abused it fow awhile and took it back quick:devil2: why someone would want the SM bike is beyond me, you'd look bloody funny as I blew past you on my E and Ive got the knobblies on. Have upset a few sportsbike riders on the twisties and passed them after being unimpressed with their cournering.:spanking: Funny how they get upset when they see the enduro tyres., let alone they got passed by a smaller enduro bike. I allways thought it was an indication of their lack of riding ability, but we all know some are true legends in their own minds.:rolleyes:

yeah dude, whats been done to your E?
i like my SM, but its a bit slow.



Do you weigh 64kgs?

about 8 kg more now dude

[inlinefour]

yeah dude, whats been done to your E?
i like my SM, but its a bit slow.




about 8 kg more now dude

It had the carb and exhaust modified and that was about it. Was waiting until it died and then I was going to do the big work over with the race can/carb and all the good internal bits. But the bloody thing never died, even considering the amount of shit that I was giving it, just for being a yellow sucksaki. :spanking:

[EJK]

1st of all, Congrats for getting a bike that really suits you (400SM :yes: now you can really go out there and stunt!)

2nd, theres no challenge at all against a ZZR250 lol

3rdly.... hmmm dunno lol its all said from page 1 to 3 so yeah, Its a cliche to say. So I won't say lol

[marty]

go for it carver. be careful though - if the zzr has usd's it could be just that little bit quicker though :)

i can think of plenty of twistie roads with no kids/stock/tractors etc - i'm sure can too.

[bart]

go hard
kick ass
bugger the boring bastards