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What?
29th April 2008, 20:42
The local Towel-wronger rag had their street talk thing a few days ago asking people whether they shopped around for lower fuel prices. 5/6 people interviewed said "No".
So, for a few days I have been travelling to and from Hamilhole, via Cambridge. For those who do not know, there is a Mobil, a Shell and a BP station all in close proximity. BP is selling petrol at 3 cents per litre more than the other two. The BP forecourt is constantly full; the other two are constantly near empty. Many are even driving past the Mobil and Shell and crossing the road to get in and out of the BP station.
Seems all the talk about fuel prices really is just rhetoric drummed up by the popular press. Or maybe Cambridge people think the more expensive gas is better???

TOTO
29th April 2008, 20:48
I dont care about prices. You should attach a poll to this thread.

Stromble
29th April 2008, 20:48
The local Towel-wronger rag had their street talk thing a few days ago asking people whether they shopped around for lower fuel prices. 5/6 people interviewed said "No".
So, for a few days I have been travelling to and from Hamilhole, via Cambridge. For those who do not know, there is a Mobil, a Shell and a BP station all in close proximity. BP is selling petrol at 3 cents per litre more than the other two. The BP forecourt is constantly full; the other two are constantly near empty. Many are even driving past the Mobil and Shell and crossing the road to get in and out of the BP station.
Seems all the talk about fuel prices really is just rhetoric drummed up by the popular press. Or maybe Cambridge people think the more expensive gas is better???

maybe they go for the pies and crappy wild bean coffee ...

kiwifruit
29th April 2008, 20:50
gDW_Hj2K0wo

Timati
29th April 2008, 20:51
Isn't the topic of petrol prices getting blown tad out of proportion? Maybe a topic on how to conserve the use of petrol e.g. technologies, etc

Timati
29th April 2008, 20:53
Possibly anyone looking at bikes - http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/MotorcycleFuelEconomyGuide/index.htm

Where does your bike stand - http://www.motorcyclefuelconsumption.com/

Timati
29th April 2008, 20:54
Fuel Efficiency Tips - http://www.peemac.sdnpk.org/resource/fert/tips6.html

carver
29th April 2008, 20:59
if i wanted efficency i would ride slower and do less wheelies

marty
29th April 2008, 21:04
the Mobil service is rubbish (BP's not much better) the BP has a better shop though, and lets me fill without pre-paying, although I nearly always fill at the Challenge on Duke St. Haven't been to the Shell since it re-opened, but the access in and out is marginal.

homer
29th April 2008, 21:08
WTF
pies , coffee , price of fuel , economy
its a bike lol
why own it if your bothered by fuel price , still cheaper than a car

Timati
29th April 2008, 21:11
WTF
pies , coffee , price of fuel , economy
its a bike lol
why own it if your bothered by fuel price , still cheaper than a car

Depends what car/bike you drive though.

Bardman
29th April 2008, 21:11
Topped up the tank in the weekend, Shit gas has gone up:(
Went for ride through the twistie stuff, forgot all about the
cost of filling up:rolleyes: Fun factor outwayed the cost by miles:chase:

homer
29th April 2008, 21:14
Depends what car/bike you drive though.

I fail to see how that matters
if its a bike then you buy what you like
like wise with a car , but with a car you will think twice if it chews gas
with a bike , i dont actually think ive ever heard of anyone worrying about economy .
most of the economy is your hand , so its like up to you really .

Timati
29th April 2008, 21:40
I fail to see how that matters
if its a bike then you buy what you like
like wise with a car , but with a car you will think twice if it chews gas
with a bike , i dont actually think ive ever heard of anyone worrying about economy .
most of the economy is your hand , so its like up to you really .

Exactly. People may tend to look twice when purchasing a car and I think (opinion) that if you are on a budget you'll do the same regardless of the fact that you may be riding a bike.

Goblin
29th April 2008, 21:41
I fail to see how that matters....
most of the economy is your hand , so its like up to you really .Unless you ride an MV. :whistle: :lol:

homer
29th April 2008, 21:43
Na
i doubt it
you say ing if you have a budget you ll look for a cheap bike to ride .
BS
youll look at all the bikes and the economy , of which will be cheaper than a car and the bikes sold .

fizbin
29th April 2008, 21:46
It could be as simple as it is with my car
Bp has 98 octane the others don't, also Bp has proven better fule than the others. I drive a Legacy GTB when i am not on the bike and i would never fill my car up with anything but Bp.
Just a thought.:crazy:

Timati
29th April 2008, 21:56
Na
i doubt it
you say ing if you have a budget you ll look for a cheap bike to ride .
BS
youll look at all the bikes and the economy , of which will be cheaper than a car and the bikes sold .

Rather than regurgitate - http://www.riderforums.com/showthread.php?t=40430.

homer
29th April 2008, 21:59
Yeah i see what you mean but , 99 % of buyers arnt looking at that .

Timati
29th April 2008, 22:02
Yeah i see what you mean but , 99 % of buyers arnt looking at that .

Hence my comment on people complaining about fuel prices. Pay up or shut up and if not look at fuel efficiency. Sorry for being blunt.

homer
29th April 2008, 22:05
Na your quite fine with being blunt
i see it the same way
but when you compare bikes your say talking a i dont know , 16 lts per 100 km to maybe 19 lts per 100 km

not like a car where a small car can use more than a large car

Forest
30th April 2008, 04:42
Many years ago I was traveling through the US on a holiday with my parents.

One day we were driving from California to Nevada. As we came up to the border there was a gas station with a big sign that read: "This is your last chance to purchase gas at 89c per gallon".

So my father pulled into the forecourt and filled up the rental car.

We resumed our journey and passed over the border into Nevada. Within a few hundred metres another petrol station came into view ... it was selling petrol for 69c per gallon :shit:

Truth in advertising!

colsan1
30th April 2008, 04:57
As a side note to this, petrol here in the uk has past £5 a gallon that about$12.60.

scumdog
30th April 2008, 08:21
As a side note to this, petrol here in the uk has past £5 a gallon that about$12.60.

Ooooh:pinch:!!

At least it's only $9:20 or so a gallon here.:(

Quasievil
30th April 2008, 08:29
NZD$2.90/ litre in germany, what we got to complain about ?

NZsarge
30th April 2008, 08:39
NZD$2.90/ litre in germany, what we got to complain about ?

Because every time the price of petrol rises so does the cost of living, take food for example, 28% more expensive than it was at this time last year of which a significant portion can be attributed to rising petrol prices as virtually everything you can buy in a shop is bought to that shop in a vehicle.

sunhuntin
30th April 2008, 08:59
its getting to the point where its annoying me. given the fact i pump the shit, ive had enough of putting nearly 2 hours wages back in the bosses pocket. so... im going to go to gull. their 95 is the same price as our 91! sure, its trickier to get in and out of the forecourt, but its worth it.

ive even started recommending local riders try going to gull if the price is bothering them. and im doing this, while at work, in uniform. :devil2:

Kirill357
30th April 2008, 09:12
It could be as simple as it is with my car
Bp has 98 octane the others don't, also Bp has proven better fule than the others. I drive a Legacy GTB when i am not on the bike and i would never fill my car up with anything but Bp.
Just a thought.:crazy:

Mobil has synergy 8000, my personal feeling is that its better that 98

Timati
30th April 2008, 11:01
Na your quite fine with being blunt
i see it the same way
but when you compare bikes your say talking a i dont know , 16 lts per 100 km to maybe 19 lts per 100 km

not like a car where a small car can use more than a large car

Possibly though I am not discounting the fact that bikers tend to use the throttle more than the average car driver (opinion not stating a fact, could be wrong)

prvoke
30th April 2008, 13:44
BP is nearly always the 1st to put their prices up. I boycott them if at all possible. Last weekend they had 91 at $1.88, the mobile accross the road was $1.79 and still people were filling up at BP. The fact that its either 95 or 98 octane but never both also annoys me

TygerTung
30th April 2008, 16:49
My RZ350 uses about the same if not more petrol than my corolla. It doesn't change my decision to ride it though.

Gubb
30th April 2008, 16:56
Mobil has synergy 8000, my personal feeling is that its better that 98
and Caltex has Vortex.
They are all exactly the same fuel, the different companies put their own additives in.

YellowDog
30th April 2008, 16:59
Amazing! I would save 3p plus the 4p supermarket discount every time!

Swoop
30th April 2008, 20:06
Interesting to note on the NEWS tonight, that BP and Shell each made in the region of 9.5 billion dollars profit last year.

I for one will shop around for fuel prices. The less in their pocket and more in mine, is a good thing.

breakaway
30th April 2008, 20:22
I for one will shop around for fuel prices. The less in their pocket and more in mine, is a good thing.

BP 95/96 - $1.939
Caltex 95/96 - $1.889 (cheapest ATM)

Difference = $0.05

Difference filling 17 L tank = $0.85

"Shopping around" to save 85c? Weak. You'll probably spend 85c getting to your next cheapest petrol station :rolleyes:

[Source] (http://www.pricewatch.co.nz/)

What?
30th April 2008, 21:39
the Mobil service is rubbish (BP's not much better) the BP has a better shop though, and lets me fill without pre-paying, although I nearly always fill at the Challenge on Duke St. Haven't been to the Shell since it re-opened, but the access in and out is marginal.
Can't say I have ever noticed any difference in "service" level between them. Personally, I prefer Mobil because it has eft-pos at the pump. And I generally avoid buying anything other than petrol at gas stations; everything else is way too expensive.


BP 95/96 - $1.939
Caltex 95/96 - $1.889 (cheapest ATM)

Difference = $0.05

Difference filling 17 L tank = $0.85

"Shopping around" to save 85c? Weak. You'll probably spend 85c getting to your next cheapest petrol station :rolleyes:

[Source] (http://www.pricewatch.co.nz/)
Agree. Sort of... You'll only waste that 85 cents if you go out of your way to find cheaper gas. It's more a matter of keeping an eye on them, and when you know that brand X is 5c/l more than brand Y, and there is a brand Y outlet 200 metres down the road, then that is where one would tend to go. Except that the reality just doesn't seem to back that up.
Funny old world...

Swoop
1st May 2008, 08:27
"Shopping around" to save 85c? Weak. You'll probably spend 85c getting to your next cheapest petrol station :rolleyes:

[Source] (http://www.pricewatch.co.nz/)

Not if you are filling the bike and the cage at the same time. If only filling the bike, meh.

sunhuntin
1st May 2008, 08:39
i filled the bike at gull yesterday. 95 octane: $188.9/liter. got 5.50liters, cost $10.40. same fill at work would have cost about $16 or more.

aside from some rude diesel customer [decided he wouldnt wait for me to move, and would stand in the tiny gap left between the bike and his truck to take his cap off, therefore getting whacked by my bike...:sleep:] an all round good experience, and i will be going back, as its closer for me to go there.

Dodger
1st May 2008, 08:39
and Caltex has Vortex.
They are all exactly the same fuel, the different companies put their own additives in.

Could this be viewed as watering down the fuel?
If the "additives" are cheaper than the fuel to produce then it's in the company's interest to put them in and thus make the fuel stock go further. :devil2:

Forest
1st May 2008, 13:14
Interesting to note on the NEWS tonight, that BP and Shell each made in the region of 9.5 billion dollars profit last year.

I for one will shop around for fuel prices. The less in their pocket and more in mine, is a good thing.

Actually that's how much Royal Dutch Shell made in the last three months.

In 2007 the RDS group made 31.331 billion USD of profits on a turnover of 355.782 billion USD .

Whereas BP made 20.845 billion USD of profits on a turnover of 291.438 billion USD.

These seem like large profits, but you need to consider that oil has only increased in value relatively recently. So the overall profits haven't been that hot when averaged over the last 20 years.