Trademe stuff vs shop stuff?

[vindy500]

whats the consensus on the choice between something like this
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Helmets-clothing-footwear/Leathers-jackets/auction-151620075.htm

vs something like the stradda viaggio

http://www.leatherdirect.co.nz/store.php?c=421

[Mully]

No brand mainly. If it's a brand you've heard of, it's generally proven

[vindy500]

what about the 1tonne stuff, ive heard of him on here...

[Mully]

Never used 1tonne myself, maybe someone else can help.

Best thing to do is find a jacket you like, and ask if anyone here has used it. Then you get a "real world" review before shelling out the $$

[Grub]

Nasty's 1Tonne jacket is falling to bits around the wrist after 6 months ... looks like typical chinese stitching rubbish.

We've done our dash with crappy internet products now which includes boots, gloves, jackets and pants. You'd think we'd got it by now ... cheap = crap.

Well finally we have and it does. Only shop-bought products now that we can try on an evaluate.

[YellowDog]

There are too many stories about cheap crap leather goods being sold to bikers.

The lady in St.Kevins Arcade (K*Road) Tailor makes great stuff that you can take back if there is a problem. She quoted me $1500 for a 2 piece leathers with top quality zips and armour.

[tommorth]

There are too many stories about cheap crap leather goods being sold to bikers.

The lady in St.Kevins Arcade (K*Road) Tailor makes great stuff that you can take back if there is a problem. She quoted me $1500 for a 2 piece leathers with top quality zips and armour.

the other bonus here is your money goes to someone local !!!

[TygerTung]

Is there anyone in christchurch like that?

[Wasp27]

The lady in St.Kevins Arcade (K*Road) Tailor makes great stuff that you can take back if there is a problem. She quoted me $1500 for a 2 piece leathers with top quality zips and armour.

+1...Can definitely recommend Kerrie from Motor Cycle Safety Wear in St Kevins Arcade....She did an absolutely awesome job on both my Leather Pants (major alterations) and also Replaced Both Zips with her recommended Heavy Duty ones on Gixxer 4 evers Jacket..... believe me, this Lady knows what she's talking about:2thumbsup ...just ring her...09 309 9522 or check out...www.msw.co.nz

[1tonne]

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[besty]

I,and my wife, use 1 tonne cordura jackets and pants. So far we have had no problems with this gear. It is warm, fits well, water tight and seems to be well stitched and strong. They have all the armour in the right places and if I did come off, (which I wont., I have faith that the gear will hold up. I guess every product has its lemons but ours has been fine. Anyway if you are not happy with the product you buy, you have the right to a refund, so its a no brainer really! I don't like paying big prices for essentially the same product and truth be known most of it is probably made in the same factory anyway, just like the appliances etc we buy today. That's my opinion anyway. It all comes down to the discernment of the buyer really!

[Pedrostt500]

do you think I can find a decent pair of Gloves most are to small at best even 3XL or the linings pull out, I cant be the only guy with big hands.

[Quasievil]

do you think I can find a decent pair of Gloves most are to small at best even 3XL or the linings pull out, I cant be the only guy with big hands.

I can get you a 4XL no probs, but will have to order them next time round

[ynot slow]

There is no regulateory rrp mechanism,if so it can be construed as price fixing,i.e an importer or maker saying this will cost you $75.00 so we suggest a rrp of $145.00.Refer the Katmandu prosecution when it was proved they upped their prices so they could discount them(back to normal prices thus tricking consumer),mind you they were not,are not only ones to do that either.

That said just because it says spyke for example doesn't mean it is better than quasi or 1 tonne to name two dealers,just their product is considerably less expensive and may stand up,may not in a bin.

The retailer/operator isn't obliged to give a refund if you change your mind,faulty goods yes.

[naphazoline]

i've scored myself some leathers (jacket and pants) off 1tonne,and i'm very happy with them.i went to his place and viewed them as opposed to buying unviewed off trade me.the armour is certified, the zips are certainly solid enough,and i was more than satisfied.

it's a real turn off to me,to see other retards(:Oops: i mean retailers) slagging off other brands for (what seems to me) their own personal gain. IMO,
these are the type of shifty goings on that steer me clear of dealing with those sorts.

and if anyone is wondering about this gear,don't take someones view who hasn't seen it,yet still bad mouths it, go and have a look for yourself.
sure you can buy the brand name stuff and pay the astronomical mark up on them,but i've seen big brand stuff fail aswell.


oh...i just have to say, i like the guy on this thread who says:Quote:

The lady in St.Kevins Arcade (K*Road) Tailor makes great stuff that you can take back if there is a problem. She quoted me $1500 for a 2 piece leathers with top quality zips and armour.
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the other bonus here is your money goes to someone local !!! )
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gee! i wasn't aware that everyone lives in auckland :rolleyes::laugh:

[Coldrider]

You know what stuff is worth, you know how much you should pay for something, what a reasonable discount is, and you should know the quality of what you are buying.
When it comes to cold wet weather, and sliding down the road, and gear lasting for years, cheap stuff doesn't perform, and is of no value after the purchase.

[avgas]

Cheap stuff is still good. Very rarely do i find that its quality that the cheap products fail in these days.
However you do get what you pay for, if not it quality, in comfort and use.
I had a $150 motoline jacket, which lasted me living (almost literally) in it for 5 years. Infact it went to free to another KB member who continues to use it.
However i now own a fantastic Teknic one, cost me a bit more that I'm used to paying for cordura ($400) but it FEELS fantastic. Likewise i have to replace the shoei, i'm probably going to get another shoei. Not because it will last longer than the $200 helmet i have on the shelf, but because it FEELS better.
Cos frankly "I'm worth it"

[Coldrider]

Totally agree avgas, there is nothing like good gear, I have shoei, teknic and spidi, totally dependable gear with thoughtful design, had the learning curve when i was younger.
There is also buying quality, but not spending enough in specification.

[bomma]

Cos frankly "I'm worth it"

heard from loreal yet?? :lol:

+1 for quasi's gear and for him as a person!! met him twice, he told me lots about his gear and business, met his whanau too....even gave me free saussies :2thumbsup got a jacket and gloves (both held up amazingly well in a bin) jacket is still in mint condition despite bin and gloves were too!! his gear feels great and i feel safe having them on!! :clap:

and some of the traders on tm are......dodgy....to say the least....ive never bought gear off tm and dont ever plan to!! gotta see it and try it on before i commit

[1tonne]

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[vindy500]

With regards to our armour, I have the same CE safety standard as you. I even have the Cerificates to prove it.
With regards to quality. Two weeks ago I had a customer that purchased a jacket off me. He told me that he has worn Quasievil apparel for years and that from now on he will buy off 1Tonne as the value for money is excellant and he thought the quality is just as good as yours.
This, I believe is why you are being so petty. It's because you are slowly loosing your market. Why don't you bring your prices down instead of having a 300-400% mark up. Then people would feel that they are getting value. Please do not try to bring my business down as this is not good for your business or mine. Please build your business up by using advertising, not by slagging off others. :hug:
i must say i kinda agree with what youre saying, i dont know if your gears good or not, how it compares to quasis, but how did my thread become a advertisement?

[DingoZ]

Quasi gear, or gear from an actual shop for me. (For the gear that I can't get from Quasi).... Will not accept knock off's from trademe, or any other shop online.

In everything else that we do in life. You get what you pay for. Love the gear from Quasi, love the service, (which is yet to be beaten).....



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[scracha]

I personally think the two traders concerned would be better erasing their posts on this thread. Both doing themselves no favors.

[Quasievil]

I personally think the two traders concerned would be better erasing their posts on this thread. Both doing themselves no favors.

Youre right, Ive deleted my posts its beneath me and my brand.

[ynot slow]

Have met both the Quasis',nice affable duo,who do have the best interests for riders,and go out of their way to enable the customer to choose goods.

As for 1 Tonne have contacted them and had quick replies to texts and emails.Their gear seems good looking at it via online,the proof is when time to buy at least I can try it on,then make up my mind.

There is no difference between many trademe suppliers as most run the business from home.Yep you can go into a retail outlet and buy name gear and expect to pay the premium,afterall the shop(usually bike outlet)has it's overheads.

I don't go into a bike shop and try on the gear for sizing and buy elsewhere,which no doubt others do and buy online,either here or usa.When I did buy my gear I went to a shop,but got a decent discount for my purchases,at the time I had neither heard of quasi or 1 tonne,had I known that I may well have bought from them.The salesguy where I bought my gear was informative so helped me decide,that is his job.

As an aside how many people get tricked into buying bicast leather thinking it is high grade because it says leather.Yep it is leather but has manmade additives to it in laymans speak,to give it guts,usually used in chairs,but could find its way into pants etc.

[vindy500]

Youre right, Ive deleted my posts its beneath me and my brand.

well yeah it kind of is, if i was asking if i should buy phillips or sony i wouldnt expect the nad dealer to jump in, i mean sure his product is better, but i cant afford it so why go there

[Quasievil]

well yeah it kind of is, if i was asking if i should buy phillips or sony i wouldnt expect the nad dealer to jump in, i mean sure his product is better, but i cant afford it so why go there

LOL, but just a point, I didnt name names;)

[FROSTY]

My tuppenths worth.
Im coming from nearly thirty years of bike riding/racing.
ANY gear thats going to offer protection in a crash is better than nothing.
But Quasi does make a very good point. Some bike gear really is total crap
It literally will not offer fuck all protection in a crash because the seams will (and have) explode or you will grind through the paper thin leather in the high impact/contact areas in a fraction of a second.
Its kinda like buying a spanner at the warehouse.

[1tonne]

I personally think the two traders concerned would be better erasing their posts on this thread. Both doing themselves no favors.

Thanks for your advise. I find it is pointless arguing. All posts removed. Cheers.:beer:

[ynot slow]

well yeah it kind of is, if i was asking if i should buy phillips or sony i wouldnt expect the nad dealer to jump in, i mean sure his product is better, but i cant afford it so why go there

Yep they will do the same job,just one might sound better than the other,and if it breaks you throw it away.My stereo is a Sharpe and was born in 1983,still going strong best part is it is component type,only added a Kenwood cd stacker.
As for bike gear yep cheap will be fine until you crash,then you wish you had the Nad version rather than Transonic,although the Phillips or Sony might be close behind the Nad.It's finding the quality at reasonable price that is difficult.
Had this ready to post then had a power cut,2nd one today,and 2nd within 2 days and only less than an hour between them,computer gotta like that shut down.

[naphazoline]

oh... i was beginning to think something was wrong with the house wiring.
heaps of flutuations:eek5:

[ynot slow]

oh... i was beginning to think something was wrong with the house wiring.
heaps of flutuations:eek5:

Yep mostly the blardy power companies downgrading years ago,not enough staff on the ground and too many in the boardroom.

We were out for about 15 mins yesterday and about 20 then 15 mins tonight.Normanby was out for a couple hours last night.

[Sparky Bills]

I dont understand how people can honestly look at this trademe stuff (no name brand stuff) and think its good quality!
Its not. Have you actually had a look at it. I mean really looked?

Shitty materials, shitty stitching, shitty quality.
Open your eyes people! Stop being soooooo nieve!!!!!!!

[twotyred]

I personally think the two traders concerned would be better erasing their posts on this thread. Both doing themselves no favors.


good idea seeing as the Riders on this forum KNOW who makes the good shit and it ain't tardme fly-by-nighters...:2thumbsup

[dipshit]

I've always reckoned that when it comes to buying gear like jackets, boots, helmets, gloves, nothing but nothing beats seeing them in the flesh and trying them on for fit and function. You're taking a gamble otherwise.

[ynot slow]

I've always reckoned that when it comes to buying gear like jackets, boots, helmets, gloves, nothing but nothing beats seeing them in the flesh and trying them on for fit and function. You're taking a gamble otherwise.

To true,and that's where both Quasi and 1Tonne are able to let you do that.Then you can make the big decision,unlike other places where pick up is not an option.

[Quasievil]

To true,and that's where both Quasi and 1Tonne are able to let you do that.Then you can make the big decision,unlike other places where pick up is not an option.

Yes and we been doing it for 5 years

[ynot slow]

Yes and we been doing it for 5 years

And from a satisfied customer long may you do it.

[Coldrider]

And from a satisfied customer long may you do it.
Self fulfilling prophecy, The better the quality, the longer it will last, the less return customers you get. Success can be measured in failure.

[NordieBoy]

Likewise i have to replace the shoei, i'm probably going to get another shoei. Not because it will last longer than the $200 helmet i have on the shelf, but because it FEELS better.

The best fitting/feeling helmet I've tried is a Chinese ZPF brand MX helmet that cost me $45.

Only failing is the viewport is slightly too small for goggles to seat properly.

[Sparky Bills]

The best fitting/feeling helmet I've tried is a Chinese ZPF brand MX helmet that cost me $45.

Only failing is the viewport is slightly too small for goggles to seat properly.



sorry, but I cant believe that. There are HEAPS of different helmets out there. And your saying that the best of the lot is a $45 one?? :blink:

[NordieBoy]

sorry, but I cant believe that. There are HEAPS of different helmets out there. And your saying that the best of the lot is a $45 one?? :blink:

I'm saying the most comfortable helmet I've tried on cost me $45.
It fits very well all around without any pressure points or looseness and it's RED so must be good.

[CHOPPA]

I have been running an ixon suit, its a very good suit for the $$$ but i have just bought an alpinestar race replica suit for an embarrasing amount of money but the diff is unbeliveable! the suit fits nice and tight but even with all the padding plastic etc etc it doesnt restrict any movement the leathers not stiff its so good.

I would say get a brand like alpinestar spidi dianese if you can afford it now cause in the long run you will save money....

If you want a cheaper suit though check mine out on trade me :)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=154559599