Good Auckland dealer?

[muntid]

A noob here. Planning on getting into the 2 wheel world. Keen on getting a brand new Yammy Scorpio 225cc as my first learner bike mainly since theres no 2nd hand ones around, and it seems pretty good bang for buck at roughly $4k on road. I'm 6'2" 105kg so hopefully it'll be big enough, but its really a bridging bike to get through the learning process on.

So where would y'all suggest I go to get one? I live on the shore in Jafaland. Keen to go somewhere with slick prices and somwhere to begin a service relationship with.

Cheers
Muntid

[kave]

Personally I would avoid Red Baron, they just seem to be too busy and too slow. I've never had a problem with the work that they do on bikes, their mechanics seem capable and the servicing costs are pretty average when compared to the other larger shops (but more expensive than small owner operated businesses in my experience), its just that they dont seem to give a sh*t about how long it takes to get done.

[skidMark]

You will dwarf a scorpio.

Plenty of second hand 250's for sale.

[musicman]

There's a Yamaha dealer in Albany - Motoworld Powersports Ltd. at 3C Saturn Place. It's the only Yamaha dealer in North Shore, I get my bike serviced there. They had a couple of Scorpios last time I was there.

[muntid]

You will dwarf a scorpio.

Plenty of second hand 250's for sale.

OK, what other 250 then. I really don't want to blow excess bucks on this bike since its really just to go through the learner stage on then I'll look at something more to my taste.

My needs:
- performance only good enough to hit 100km/h comfortably and to set me up nicely skill wise for a bigger bike.
- big enough for 6'2" 105kg person, within reason since I'd be upgrading so could live with something not ideal
- will hold reasonable value since I'd be upgrading asap.
- primarily used for commuting 20 - 80km/h

[007XX]

So where would y'all suggest I go to get one? I live on the shore in Jafaland. Keen to go somewhere with slick prices and somwhere to begin a service relationship with.

Cheers
Muntid

Welcome to you Muntid! :sunny:

Various people will tell you various things re: preferred dealers. Most of it will be based on long term relationships with said dealer.

Personally, I'd advise you to talk to Jamie at Holeshot. He's a top guy and has always been fair and honnest with me. Some people however have had bad experiences with other staff members of Holeshot, so try to speak to Jamie only if you can.

Re: Scorpio...I don't know much about them sorry, but a couple of people on here used to have one, so hopefully they'll give you some feedback. The best way of course would just be for you to teste ride one.

Good luck!

[kave]

You will dwarf a scorpio.

Plenty of second hand 250's for sale.

He is right, I think scorpios are awesome bikes, problem is you will find it uncomfortable and awkward. Go and sit on a few bikes, see what you feel comfortable on. Personally, I dont see any point in buying a brand new bike to learn on, odds are you will put a few scrapes on it, and they will devalue a lot faster than second hand bikes.

[Gubb]

How old are you? Try for an exemption.

[Korumba]

Bugger,,thought this thread was about where to score some good drugs!

[muntid]

How old are you? Try for an exemption.

I'm 30. Whats the usual reason to score an exemption? is there a smart way to approach this?

In reply to the above comment about second hand bikes being cheaper, it seems to me theres a lot of more expensive second hand 250's than a new scorpio....e.g. hornets, bandits, vtr250, cbf250, cbr250rr, sitting in the $4500 to 7000 range. Sure these bikes are better performers, but the bottom line is 250cc is not my ideal bike so this purchase needs to be something that will hold value, be reliable, cheap to run and sufficient to commute.

any thoughts?

[rwh]

In reply to the above comment about second hand bikes being cheaper, it seems to me theres a lot of more expensive second hand 250's than a new scorpio....e.g. hornets, bandits, vtr250, cbf250, cbr250rr, sitting in the $4500 to 7000 range. Sure these bikes are better performers, but the bottom line is 250cc is not my ideal bike so this purchase needs to be something that will hold value, be reliable, cheap to run and sufficient to commute.


Those second hand bikes have already done most of their depreciating, so unless you damage it, you should get back most of what you pay. A second hand scorpio, on the other hand, is obviously worth significantly less than a new one.

That doesn't take into account what might happen to the market in light of the law changes, of course (which will allow some relatively tame larger bikes to be ridden by learners).

Regarding what bike, the recommendation I was given, and which I agree with, is that a twin-cylinder 250 is ideal for learning. It has enough grunt not to be annoying (a single might not), and it is a bit easier to ride (goes ok at low revs, so harder to stall) than a typical 4 cylinder.

Twins I can think of are the honda vtr, the kawasaki gpx or zzr (or new ninja), the suzuki gsx and the hyosungs.

Another consideration is that a faired bike will cost more to fix if you drop it. The honda vtr is the only naked bike in that list.

Oh - except I've left out the cruisers - honda rebel or magna, kawasaki el250, hyosung aquila, suzuki marauder, yamaha virago ...

And dirt bikes, which I don't know so much about, but many people recommend - single doesn't seem to matter so much for them, and the height might be good too.

Other people can probably correct lots of that :)

Richard

[Hanne]

I'd say a zzr would probably be a bit small, They are fine in terms of power for 100km and commuting etc but you sound like you are about my dad's size and when he rides my bike he finds it quite uncomfortable.

You don't know until you sit on one though! maybe have a look at a dealer to see what is around and then if you are looking at second hand and know what you are after you can always keep an eye on trademe too.

[RM125king]

A good dealer in auckland. I have never heard of such a thing. I would not go to red baron what ever the costs. I wouldnt let them work on anything that requires tools.

Your best bet might to go around a few and see how you get on with the quys there and see how you like their advice. Getting on with the people at the dealer is a major factor when buy something because then you get there back up and support when something goes wrong.

Red baron dont a give a shit and will rob you any way they can.

Just something to think about.

[gearte]

Think outside the square!!250cc Motard (250exc).Go see MOTOWORLD.Good team of guys there

[MVnut]

Call Adam at Henderson Motorcycles:woohoo:

[BAD DAD]

Call Adam at Henderson Motorcycles:woohoo:

I agree with MVnut

[Harry the Barstard]

If you can find one a 250 Hornet would be ideal.

It's nice and tall, naked, so minimal damage should you drop it, hondas are bloody reliable (the corrollas of bikes) and its a good commuter but still shit loads of fun in the corners when your confidance AND skills improve.

Not to mention great resale as they are highly reguarded 250's of the naked varity.

I'm serious.......this is the best advise in the world, im like yoda but white and heaps taller.

[bmz2]

Call Adam at Henderson Motorcycles:woohoo:

+1:niceone:

[breakaway]

Get an exemption and get a SV650. A quick search for 'license exemption' will get you lots of information.

[Wiki Drifter]

As previously mentioned, Jamie @ Holeshot is a top dude. Mt Eden's sales team is also very good, won't comment on their workshop though.. <_<

[Ryan432]

yea Jaimie at holeshot is definitly a top dude!! Don't worry about your size since you just want the bike to get to your full on, I have seen huge people riding GN's Scorpio's etc> I actually know a guy about your height who just sits nearly on the pasenger seat of his GN and he gets around fine!! LOL
Also learning on a smaller bike will give you HEAPS more confidence and your skills will develop wayyy quicker. On a small bike you can learn what it feels like for the bike to slide or bump around a bit and you can thrash the shit out of it withoiut scaring yourself out of biking for good! :2thumbsup:

:rockon:

[fizbin]

I will prob get shot for saying this!:dodge:
Try a hyosung. bigger bike for you.
I am 5 11ish and around 110kg and works well for me , hubba gubba is taller than me and rides one and finds them comfortable also.
They are a little under powered for the size but if you are only learning on it then what does it matter? i commute from Ranui to Penrose on mine everyday and it works well.:scooter:
Ok que the Hyo hatters now.......:Pokey:

[Stromble]

A noob here. Planning on getting into the 2 wheel world. Keen on getting a brand new Yammy Scorpio 225cc as my first learner bike mainly since theres no 2nd hand ones around, and it seems pretty good bang for buck at roughly $4k on road. I'm 6'2" 105kg so hopefully it'll be big enough, but its really a bridging bike to get through the learning process on.

So where would y'all suggest I go to get one? I live on the shore in Jafaland. Keen to go somewhere with slick prices and somwhere to begin a service relationship with.

Cheers
Muntid

Get yourself a DL4 form and exemption to ride a larger bike :)