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FkNAmerican
30th April 2008, 16:04
So, as some of you know, I've been considering moving on up to a liter bike lately. On a whim I decided to call up an old friend I havnt seen in awhile who rides an R6-S. Ever since he bought his R6S he has wanted the more hard core YZF-R6. Now I wasnt in a huge hurry to sell my R-6 so I just threw a number at him expecting him to turn it down as too high. Instead, he jumped on it and said he's gonna sell his bike for whatever and get together the money ASAP. Apparently, I've already done everything he would have done to the R-6 for him so its the perfect bike for him. Great.

So now Im faced with the rather sudden prospect of not having the R-6 in about 2-3 weeks. My big question: What do I replace it with??

1. GSXR-1000: I rode a K-7 Gixer thou' not too long ago and came away VERY impressed with it overall. I traded bikes witha friend who had one for the Tuesday sports bike ride out and was able to immediately get comfortable on it. First impressions were solid. From a riders perspective the GSXR-1000 is a VERY strong street bike. What I dont like about it are the bland cheapish look of them and the fact that everybody and thier mother has one. Also Suzuki is rumored to be preparing a counterstrike against the '08 Honda CBR1000 with a new 2009 GSXR-1000. Its hard for me to believe they can squeeze much more power out so Im thinking Suzuki needs to drop weight and maybe offer a more advanced traction control then on the ZX-10. Thats where the next "big step" in sports bikes has to be in my opinion. Power is getting harder to increase so its gotta come by way of reducing/centralizing weight and TRACTION CONTROL. If so then Im willing to wait for the '09 to come out and see whats what. The last thing I like about getting one now though: Dealer has made me an offer on any '07 color I want for $9,600 out the door.

2. Yamaha R-1: I LOVE the look of this bike. As far as I'm concerned this is one of the best looking liter bikes out there.....including Ducati's and MV's. I've got some friends with riding experience on GSXR's and R-1's and they all prefer the GSXR as a riders bike though. Also there is the issue of the ECU's needed to be shipped off and reflashed/replaced to fix the flat spot in the power band....which by some accounts STILL isnt fixed after the new chip comes back. Also I've heard complaints about the underseat exhausts roasting you on a hot day. This is an issue as it can easily get over 100 degrees where I live. Also Yamaha is due to update the R-1 again for '09 so Im considering waiting to see if they make significant improvements. I'd like to see better fueling and reduced weight! Dealer has made me an offer on any '07 color I want for $9,500 out the door though.

3. Kawasaki Zx-10 (the new '08 model): This bike is seriously interesting me at the moment. I sat on one and it feels very light and compact for a liter bike. The seat is wide and hard like my R-6 so at least Im already used to that. Its heavier then a stock GSXR but it feels lighter...I presume b/c of a lower center of gravity. I'm also liking the new looks of the bike and the fact that its got the most powerfull 1000cc stock engine yet. Plus its said to have a razor sharp chasis and class leading brakes. The problem: Kawasaki are being bastards about the price. Every dealer I go to is pretty firm: $11,500 for the bike...some even want close to 12 grand....I could have an '07 GSXR-1000 with a full sytem and power commander making 170hp at the wheels for that money.....and thats not something I want to be thinking every time I open the garage and look at my bike.

4. '07 CBR 1000RR: I like the look of this bike. Thats about it. I would consider it if offered a great deal but otherwise......no thanks. To make it worse, Im seeing '07 CBR 1000's going for more then '08 GSXR-1000's which is scary to me considering the Gixer is such a superior machine.

5. GSXR-750: I've been pondering a Gixer 750 for a LONG LONG LONG time. I love everything about this bike on paper. You get more power and torque then a 600 for almost no cost in weight. Its what a 600 would be if you pumped $6,000 in engine work into it........plus my local dealer has two '07's left he's offered to me for $8,800 out the door. To top it off the 750 responds very well to a power commander and a full system/tuning. Those mods make it the perfect motorcycle from a power/weight/chasis perspective. Whats holding me back?? The fear that I'll buy one and immediately regret not getting a 1,000. Also it suffers the same problem of all Gixers: Bland cheap looks and the "everybody gots one" factor.

6. Lastly, Im considering going without a motorcycle this summer (absolute torture) and saving up for the Aprilia RSV-4 thats due out end of this year. I've always wanted a V-4 and from the look of the race bike this thing is going to be amazing. Oh and did I mention the sound?? Heard a clip of the bike from the Milan show. Jesus. Down side is the price. Im expecting something in the area of $20,000.......but if its as good as Im thinking it will be......then Im willing to spend on it b/c its a special bike I'd plan to keep for years and enjoy.

jrandom
30th April 2008, 16:30
If I was buying a 1000cc sportbike right now, I'd look for one of:

- a second-hand K5/K6 GSX-R1000, because I've ridden one and liked it a lot, and I've heard from those who've ridden them and then ridden the K7 that the K7 suffers in comparison in some areas;

- an '07 R1, because it's the best-handling Jappa sprotbike I've ever ridden, and I find them very comfortable to boot, compared to the other brands; or

- the 2008 ZX-10R, subject to a decent test ride, because it's the current dog's bollocks magazine-review favourite.

The K7 GSX-R750 is a great bike, but if you want that particular crazy rush that you get with a 1000cc sportbike, you need to look elsewhere. If you get onto the sen fiddy after getting off a thou, it feels underpowered. It's all pretty silly, of course. Power overkill. But, hey, that's what it's all about, right? And you only live once...

:laugh:

Personally?

I'd rather have one of these:

<img src="http://i25.tinypic.com/28qyl28.jpg"/>

... but that's just me.

:niceone:

Edit: Why don't you test-ride the new Buell 1125R?

Edit edit: If you're all about the Aprilia V4, buy a GS500 or something similar now and spend the summer mucking about on it, then sell it for virtually no loss. You might be surprised at how much fun you have.

NZsarge
30th April 2008, 16:33
R1 or gixxer 750 would be my choices out of that line up but there is a huge range of bikes out there....
What about the KTM RC8 or SuperDuke, i'm telling you now you'd get a kick out of riding a SD.
Don't go bikeless just hold onto the R6 and check the new R1 when it hits the scene not to mention the Aprilia too, with a bike like the R6 there no big rush to get rid of it is there?

SlowHand
30th April 2008, 17:00
After owning a K6 750, I agree with the modifed 600 comment, even though I havent rode one. Still needs revvin and gear changing, which wasnt the kind of lazy-ish ride I was after.

Sure people talk about not needing anymore than a 600, but since when has sportsbikes been a sensible choice?

I've ridden K6 1000, 05 ZX10R and the 00 & 07 R1 in the litre class, and have to say the low down grunt of the K6 was my fav :clap:

jrandom
30th April 2008, 17:08
I've ridden K6 1000, 05 ZX10R and the 00 & 07 R1 in the litre class, and have to say the low down grunt of the K6 was my fav :clap:

The GSX-R1000 motor has always been the strongest throughout the rev range.

You might ask a particular KBer (who will remain anonymous, unless you ask me who it is) sometime about his very-near-highsiding experience after he got off an R1 and onto a K3 thou at the track and tried to ride the Suzuki like a Yamaha...

:shutup:

Bardman
30th April 2008, 19:17
I've ridden K6 1000, 05 ZX10R and the 00 & 07 R1 in the litre class, and have to say the low down grunt of the K6 was my fav :clap:

Ive got the 04 R1, a mate offered me a ride on his K6 thou and thought that it didnt have the same low down grunt of the yammy. I wasnt exactly giving it all it had tho.
Test ride em all and see which one feels right for you.
ps That aprilia RSV-4 is gorgeous:chase:

SlowHand
30th April 2008, 21:00
Oh yeah, rode the 04 R1 too. In the wet, with the OEM dunflops.

Gixxer Supreme to go, please. Oh yes, extra Calamari.

kiwifruit
30th April 2008, 21:05
Ive got the 04 R1, a mate offered me a ride on his K6 thou and thought that it didnt have the same low down grunt of the yammy.

The 04 R1 is very "soft" down low, you sure it wasn't a K6 600?

Boob Johnson
30th April 2008, 21:24
*cough*


Aprilia :Pokey:

jrandom
30th April 2008, 21:26
The 04 R1 is very "soft" down low, you sure it wasn't a K6 600?

I've done a weekend's touring / thrashing on a K6 GSX-R1000 (props to Dover for leaving me alone with his... bike) and a trackday on an '04 R1.

First thing I noticed was that you have to keep the revs way up on the R1 to get the kind of punch that the Suzuki offers pretty much everywhere.

Anyone who thinks that an '04 R1 has more punch than a K6 GSX-R1000 has their head up their arse.

bane
30th April 2008, 21:32
having riden none of the bikes you have mentioned, my opinion of which one to buy is worthless...

however can confirm from my mate who has an 08 R1, that the ECU flat spot issue is still far from resolved.... well unless you're ready to splash out on a power-commander or such.

avgas
30th April 2008, 21:46
Depends on your riding style.
If i had the coin i think these would be my options:
1) new CB1000 (not that POS CBR.....the CB)
2) new ZX10R
3) new BKing
4) Old R1
5) K7 GSXR 1000
6) Benelli TnT

munterk6
30th April 2008, 23:15
Ive ridden all the latest thous, GSXR wins hands down :devil2:

Cruisin' Craig
30th April 2008, 23:24
You know what the best thing of all is about this though eh? Really, while people can give useful advice and information, no one can tell you what you'd like the most, you have to figure it out for yourself.

And that means you now have an excuse to do one HELLUVA lot of test riding :-)

sosman
30th April 2008, 23:47
Get a gsxr thou & if ya scare ya self on it then swap it for my k6gsxr7friddy
muhaha :devil2:

Chickenlegs
1st May 2008, 14:48
Well, as I see it, you've answered some of the question.

It depends on whether you place emphasis on looks over performance and rideability.

Ultimately, a litre bike is better. It's not for the power... It's the torque. A litre bike makes more torque at 4000 than any 600 period! It's the torque that makes them fun and easier to ride every day and on the street...

Which litre bike you choose, we all like different things... Best you ride them and choose for yourself.

PS, last years graphs...

Bardman
1st May 2008, 21:14
The 04 R1 is very "soft" down low, you sure it wasn't a K6 600?

It was a thou, but hey opinions vary
It wasnt quite as ugly as the k6 600, but close, i say again opinions vary.
Now im off to pull ma head outta me arse n do some knee draggin scratchin on the best looking thou on the market, but hey opinions vary:whocares:

bsod
1st May 2008, 21:55
Have you thought about an Aprilia RSV-R? Top bikes... :2thumbsup

Zoolander
1st May 2008, 23:09
If you're hoping to sell him yours, you'll have to be ready to ship it to the States....

bsod
3rd May 2008, 00:39
I just think they are great bikes, And I am glad I had the chance to ride one.:clap:

FkNAmerican
3rd May 2008, 14:34
The RC-8 is an interesting choice but its also a first gen bike for KTM......I think I'll let others iron out any flaws before I hop on the bandwagon. Plus, KTM has never really been on my radar. I would consider the super duke as a second bike.....but the RC-8 really is the first bike KTM has made that I would even consider as my one and only motorcycle......

In short, KTM still has alot to prove before I front the kind of cash they're askin' for that bike. Im willing to bet the RC-8 will be alot better after its mid-life update.....and Im patient enough for that.

As far as the Aprilia RSV-R goes......its nice but it just doesnt do it for me. The RSV-4.....THAT does tick all the right boxes and in a big way!!

The more I think about it the more I think GSXR-1000 or R-1 (with power commander and custom map). I can get a great deal on both.

I need to get on an R-1 and see how it goes........that will be the deciding factor.

bsod
3rd May 2008, 17:41
Good luck on the hunt. I rode alot of the bikes before I bought my Aprilia and I thought the R1 was one of the best rides. 2nd only to my lovely RSVR of course :2thumbsup

FkNAmerican
4th May 2008, 11:58
V-twin ownership is kinda like mairrage:

I know its gonna happen one day.....I'm sure I'll love it when it does.....but I'm still young enough to want my power up top. :devil2: