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[rG-150]

I need to learn to steer properly.
Well about an hour ago, i rode my rg into a ditch. I was riding up to a right hand bend, not speeding at all, and yeh, instead of going around the corner smoothly i went pretty heavy on the front brake and understeered and i ended up in the ditch on the side of the road. It happened on a back country road so no one saw it. After a couple of kicks i got it started and pushed it back onto the road, picked up the pieces and rode home.I lost the right mirror and indicator and the whole right side fairing is pretty fucked.
At least i now know not to break hard in turns :2thumbsup

yeh does anyone know where i can get a right side fairing?
:Punk:

[Coyote]

I almost did that myself up the rimus. Learnt to keep my foot over the rear brake at all times

[Redstar]

Sorry to hear that but at least your alive and a bit wiser perhaps? but you may find the cost of the repairs are more than the replacement value of the bike and so if you have fully comp you may get a :rolleyes: new bike for the excess?
then buy back the bike and make a warrior out of it?

[Two Smoker]

ok first thing, dont ever touch the front brake in mid corner.... and dont really touch the rear brake either... do you countersteer? if you enter a corner too fast, just drop it in harder.... With most peoples riding style everyone generally has alot mor cornering clearance to go before stuff starts scraping....

PM nicko, he might still have some old RG fairings left... sorry i need my 2 sets :wacko:

[crashe]

Are you ok and you are not hurt at all?
As that is the main thing.

Are you new to riding?
If so maybe see if there is a bike course down your way to learn about this from not happening again.....

[avgas]

hehe the old too fast into a right hander on an RG.
Did that myself a few years ago at the 45k corner going from waihi to whangamata. Seems to be a trend on these bikes.
Cept not bank for me, i went through a fence and ended up in a farmers paddock :whistle:
Ordering fairings from overseas wasnt cheap either - but good second hand ones were almost non existant

[Coyote]

ok first thing, dont ever touch the front brake in mid corner.... and dont really touch the rear brake either... do you countersteer? if you enter a corner too fast, just drop it in harder.... With most peoples riding style everyone generally has alot mor cornering clearance to go before stuff starts scraping....

Got any more advice?

[jrandom]

Got any more advice?

Yeah. However far you think you're leaned over, you're probably not, yet.

So, when the fenceposts are rushing toward you, it's time for mind-over-matter. *Pretend* you want to lowside the bike, and crank it over on its side. Try to touch the ground with your mirrors.

A few seconds later, as you rocket out and straighten up from a modest 30° angle, feeling like Rossi, the guy on the bike behind you will think "ah, young wots-his-name's finally stopped going around corners upright".

[Coyote]

I'm getting there with leaning over, feels like the rear wheel is slipping every time I go past roughly 70 degrees. Leaning was no problem on my KX at the motard, my elbows were scraping against the tarmac sometimes

[jrandom]

Leaning was no problem on my KX at the motard, my elbows were scraping against the tarmac sometimes

Well, you obviously don't need any cornering advice from the likes of *me*, then :p

[Coyote]

Also, I might be more daring if I replaced my nice fairing for one I don't mind destroying. Anyone got a crap CBR fairing for free or going cheap?

[Two Smoker]

Got any more advice?With a right hand corner, drop your shoulder (well push it towards the corner) push your right hand and keep a steady amount of throttle on, if you think you are going to fast, push harder with your right hand and lean the bike further. Dont throttle off in a corner and dont use the front brakes in the corner... Do the opposite thing for the left..... Dont bother hanging off the bike or any of that shit, learn about riding the bike first..

How is the RG RG-150?

[jrandom]

With a right hand corner, drop your shoulder (well push it towards the corner) push your right hand and keep a steady amount of throttle on, if you think you are going to fast, push harder with your right hand and lean the bike further. Dont throttle off in a corner and dont use the front brakes in the corner... Do the opposite thing for the left..... Dont bother hanging off the bike or any of that shit, learn about riding the bike first..

Pfffft, what would you know? Ex-biker.

:kick:

[Skunk]

Pfffft, what would you know? Ex-biker.Ouch! :laugh:

[Two Smoker]

Pfffft, what would you know? Ex-biker.

:kick:
LOL, well actually i rode my race bike a total of about 2 km today :p so ha!!! would have gone further, but there is that problem of it being a race bike and all.....

[sels1]

I need to learn to steer properly.
:Punk:

Bad luck mate but least you're ok so put it down to experience....

[Jackrat]

With right handers get as far forward on the bike as you can,twist the whole
of your right side body from your hips to your shoulder into the corner but keep your head level,push forward on the right hand bar.Most importantly look to were you want to come out of the corner,the bike will do the rest as long as you stay fixed on your exit point.
Don't look to the outside or freeze,you will run wide if you do.
As already stated most of us have more in store than we realise when it comes to leaning into corners,BUT,it's more about body language and counter stearing than trying to phisicaly lean the bike.The big thing with right handers is if your right handed you will be off balance going into a right hand corner.
This is why most right handed boxers lead with their left and left handed boxers lead with their right.It's called left/right bias and applys to a lot of things that are performed naturaly.Leftys that get lost in the bush walk in right hand circles and rightys walk in left hand circles because of this left/right bias thing.SAR will often ask if a lost hunter/tramper is left or right handed for this reason.Neat aye!!!
All that being said,the most important thing is to look where you want to go,the bike will follow your eyes every time.

[warren35]

well ive just got back to te kuiti after a great blat to mokau for a blackheart.hit rain on the way back and had two bloody big slids at the bottom of the mahonui hill.the first was due to a bump and the second was only just past the bump and i think it was tar bleed.needless to say i slowed up big time and thought about it.can be scary shit

[Bonez]

Also, I might be more daring if I replaced my nice fairing for one I don't mind destroying. Anyone got a crap CBR fairing for free or going cheap? Just take the bloody thing off and leave it off. No more worries :rolleyes:

[ajturbo]

you live to learn some more on another day !!! well done

[Mr Skid]

Anyone got a crap CBR fairing for free or going cheap?
I've got a crap CBR, free of fairings, not going because I'm cheap. Does that count?

[rG-150]

the bikes worse than i thought..When i hit the ground i must have disturbed the electrical system because now when i tap the breaks or use the indicators the bike just dies...I should take it into the bike shop instead of trying to fix it myself and making it worse :whistle:
anyone kno what could be wrong??

[jrandom]

the bikes worse than i thought..When i hit the ground i must have disturbed the electrical system because now when i tap the breaks or use the indicators the bike just dies...I should take it into the bike shop instead of trying to fix it myself and making it worse :whistle:
anyone kno what could be wrong??

Yes.

Probably something similar to the electrical problem my old FXR developed after I crashed it. Betcha a lot of the wiring is identical. Obviously not the *same* problem, exactly, because the symptoms are different. But it might help.

Search the forum for a post by Frosty talking about what he found. Or maybe just PM him for details.

[Hitcher]

Obviously not the *same* problem, exactly, because the symptoms are different.
Maybe the loom is plaitted differently...

[Hoon]

Ohh and another helpful tip when you get out of your comfort zone is beware of target fixation!

If you think you are going to run wide and you STARE at the bank you are heading for then thats where you are going to end up! You need to get a grip on yourself and look through the turn as usual and resist any urge to fixate on the ditch in front of you. To make it through the turn you need to be 100% commited and push any doubt aside as your whole body (and the bike) will follow where you are looking.
During races I often have to give myself a slapping and 9 times out of 10 I will make it through the turn without a hitch.....the 10th time is when I really am going too fast but on the track that really only results in a bit of off-roading (and dropping 5 or so places! :( ).

[Stevo]

I agree with all helpful advice so far. In 95% of bike crashes the rider has never outridden the the tyres but run wide for fear of losing traction. Look where you want to go!!!!!!
Next time you go out on a straight piece of tarmac, (because chances are you will want to lean over less) try what Two smoker said and push you right hand forward feel the bike lean right, then do the same with the left.
In an effortless motion you should be able to S your way down the road.
Then try it while cornering.

Can't hurt more than falling off.......................... Can it?

[Zapf]

have a read.... i have found it very useful :)

[scroter]

dont brake in a corner at all. performance bikes did an article on this and i agree. the thing that stood out was that if youve got enough front tyre grip to use the brakes than youve got enough to make it round the corner without the brakes. in english that means its all in the head.

[bear]

Brake on the straight before it's too late - or is that just for cars!?!

[Two Smoker]

Brake on the straight before it's too late - or is that just for cars!?!
Nope, that applies to bikes as well...

For road riding do all your braking on the straights.... generally you wont be riding hard enough to need to brake in the corner... and if you are, you would have learnt how to brake in the corner.... the only time i brake in a corner is when i am racing and doing 1:20's on the RG around Puke.... but i wont go into that, it is quite difficult to understand and do as well.....

[Stevo]

Brake on the straight before it's too late - or is that just for cars!?!

This is true. Should be back on the gas again by the time you are in the corner to ease the weight off the front wheel in a highly scientific theory of balance and control.
Sounds silly but is true. Helps reduce understeer basically..............