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johan
1st May 2008, 11:00
How come a Ducati 848 retails for $13.500USD (17.280NZD) in US of A while here they are around $26.000NZD? Even in Europe they are closer to $26.000 NZD.

With the US dollar dropping I'd expect the price to be a lot more than?

Cajun
1st May 2008, 11:03
For starters ducati is keeping prices really low in the USA to try and get a better foot in the door agains tthe Japanese brands, since there foot print is rather small there

marty
1st May 2008, 11:43
+ GST

+ Freight

+ there's a market for probably the same number of bikes for the whole of NZ as there is for Hollywood..........

johan
1st May 2008, 13:23
+ GST

+ Freight

+ there's a market for probably the same number of bikes for the whole of NZ as there is for Hollywood..........

So wouldn't Ducati lower the price here to make the sell figures go up then? I bet the dealers don't see any increased margin just because Ducati ask more money for their bikes.

Good points thou. Freight is about $1500-$2500 NZD depending how fast you want it (according to my colleagues who have shipped their bike over from US). You would still be saving $$$ when GST is included, that would be enough for a Termis system and a few set of sticky tires.

Not that I'm considering importing, I was just curious why the big price difference.

To be honest, ~ $26.000 for a 848cc bike, is way overpriced. They have removed a lot of what made the previous models exclusive, Ohlins, adjustable riding height and steering head angel, more plastic, no steering damper.

Would that stop me from buying or wanting one? Probably not, silly me!

scracha
1st May 2008, 17:32
Good points thou. Freight is about $1500-$2500 NZD depending how fast you want it (according to my colleagues who have shipped their bike over from US). You would still be saving $$$ when GST is included, that would be enough for a Termis system and a few set of sticky tires.

No warranty though would be risky...especially on a Ducati :doctor:

Timber020
1st May 2008, 19:41
We pay $1600 NZD for a 5kg saw here that costs less than $600 NZD stateside. They have a massive market with huge volume, they dont need to make as much per unit to make there money. Lack of competition is a big problem here to.
Actually they put a ban on selling Husqvarna saws online as people in sweden (where they are made) were ordering them from the states and getting them cheaper than they could locally.

johan
1st May 2008, 21:23
We pay $1600 NZD for a 5kg saw here that costs less than $600 NZD stateside. They have a massive market with huge volume, they dont need to make as much per unit to make there money. Lack of competition is a big problem here to.
Actually they put a ban on selling Husqvarna saws online as people in sweden (where they are made) were ordering them from the states and getting them cheaper than they could locally.

That's actually a good example, thanks for that.
I'm from Sweden, home of Husqvarna, Öhlins, SKF, Saab, Volvo and Ericsson. I guess this is why I feel like home here in NZ, all the good and bads of a small country are very similar here to home.

I believe in supporting your local dealer in the long run. It's just, sometimes your wallet doesn't agree with that.

Cheers
~j

Sparky Bills
1st May 2008, 21:32
Margin with Ducati...? Whats that!?

We have sold 1 Desmo... We make a curtain amount of margin, but yet have to buy the special tools that we will never use (8k worth!), and have to send a mechanic over to oz for the training needed to work on one, so it ends up costing us a shite load to sell one.
Its kinda crazy actually.
But thats the way this world seems to be at the moment.

johan
1st May 2008, 22:08
Margin with Ducati...? Whats that!?

We have sold 1 Desmo... We make a curtain amount of margin, but yet have to buy the special tools that we will never use (8k worth!), and have to send a mechanic over to oz for the training needed to work on one, so it ends up costing us a shite load to sell one.
Its kinda crazy actually.
But thats the way this world seems to be at the moment.

Thanks for that insight!
Good to know.
cheers

Taz
1st May 2008, 22:16
And in the end a (insert japanese bike brand name here) will do everything on the road as well as an exotic european and the money you save buys a lot of riding. But then owning your dream bike has a certain allure and very few of us shop with our heads. If I was in the market for a ducati 848 and the price worked out that much better including shipping and taxes I would definitely look at importing one.

_intense_
1st May 2008, 22:57
[QUOTE=johan;1545197]So wouldn't Ducati lower the price here to make the sell figures go up then?
[\QUOTE]


Notworth the effort. nz is insignificant to them. pisshole in the snow mate

scumdog
1st May 2008, 23:09
That's actually a good example, thanks for that.
I'm from Sweden, home of Husqvarna, Öhlins, SKF, Saab, Volvo and Ericsson. I guess this is why I feel like home here in NZ, all the good and bads of a small country are very similar here to home.

I believe in supporting your local dealer in the long run. It's just, sometimes your wallet doesn't agree with that.

Cheers
~j

I posted on KB somewhere that back in '01 when the dollar was 40cents US you could buy a Harley here waay cheaper than in the US (when you did the $$ conversion).
But there was some US Govt control so despite the fact that in theory Yanks could fly to NZ, have a 7 day vacation and fly back after buying their HD in NZ for less than just buying the same HD in the USA they were'nt allowed to.

98tls
1st May 2008, 23:28
Margin with Ducati...? Whats that!?

We have sold 1 Desmo... We make a curtain amount of margin, but yet have to buy the special tools that we will never use (8k worth!), and have to send a mechanic over to oz for the training needed to work on one, so it ends up costing us a shite load to sell one.
Its kinda crazy actually.
But thats the way this world seems to be at the moment. :stupid:Nice post,was lucky enough to grow up with my old man addicted to Ducs........an 860 followed by a 78SS followed by an 80SS etc,being a clever bugger he was able to own/ride/service them himself which was no mean feat with the old ones,when they became a fashion statement was about the same time he couldnt be bothered with them anymore,as someone else posted it came down to if you can ride then on any given day on any given road in the real world any of the jap litre bikes are just as capable as anything Ducati produce thing is its just well cheaper to do it.Always remember him saying "the Italian owners club has become a gathering of pimply faced fucks in expensive leathers with chicken strips wider than there dicks":laugh:followed by wtf is a latte:rolleyes: