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Biff
20th December 2004, 10:15
I was talking with a guy at the weekend who believes that self cancelling indicators on m'bikes could save hundreds of accidents every year. I'm sure that such a feature has been tried out before on some older bikes.

Any of you guys ever heard of these? Ever had a bike with them on? Any good? How do they work?

Cheers

Coyote
20th December 2004, 10:19
Man that would be nice to have.

scumdog
20th December 2004, 10:20
I was talking with a guy at the weekend who believes that self cancelling indicators on m'bikes could save hundreds of accidents every year. I'm sure that such a feture has been tried out before on some older bikes.

Any of you guys ever heard of these? Ever had a bike with them on? Any good? How do they work?

Cheers

My 'olde-technology' Harley has them, they work like magic, turn off by themselves after you overtake/turn at an intersection yet stay on constantly when you are sitting at the traffic-lights. :niceone:

'Course they were dangerous when I first got the bike 'cos I spent so much time checking they had turned off when they were meant to causing near heart failure when I looked up again and saw a stopped car/sharp bend on front of me!! :eek:

Fryin Finn
20th December 2004, 10:27
My old Yamaha XJ650 (born 1981) had self cancelling indicators as did most of Big Yamahas around that time. When I next bought a Yamaha (87 SRX600) they no longer featured - probably hit and miss weather the indicators worked. I know I had a few problems with the wiring hence only 3 or 4 WOF's over 8 years of ownership :innocent:

Biff
20th December 2004, 11:36
Sorry Scumdog - didn't mean to infer that your Harley was an old bike, I didn't realise modern ones had them.

So how do they work? Distance travelled?

Coyote
20th December 2004, 11:41
Can you install self cancelling indicators to your bike? Can you buy a kitset or something?

scumdog
20th December 2004, 11:45
Sorry Scumdog - didn't mean to infer that your Harley was an old bike, I didn't realise modern ones had them.

So how do they work? Distance travelled?

I don't KNOW but suspect they are a combination of time and a switch activated by a change of lean and/or momentum (Use to be known as a 'mercury switch').

Anybody else able to assist?

Motu
20th December 2004, 11:45
My 1971 XS1 had self canceling indicators - for a left turn I put my hands back on the bars to use the clutch,on right hand turns to use the front brake.I leant to cancel them early - going down the road with your left arm stuck out for miles looks bloody silly - if I left my right indicator on by mistake the bike would just come to a stop - bloody good safety feature that eh?

bear
20th December 2004, 11:59
Talking to a guy with a new BMW RS (or RG, sorry can't remember) 1200. They have the switch for the right indicator on the right handlebar, and the left on the left. After 15 flashes they turned themselves off. (If bike was stationary, then count wouldn;t engage until moving) I reckoned they were bloddy good.

pete376403
20th December 2004, 12:56
82 GS1100 has them, so did the 850 - they have two modes - the low speed mode is worked via a sensor on the back of the speedo so they turn off after a certain distance, eg 500 metres. High speed mode (over a certain speed) turns them off after a time. Logic behind this is - if it was distance only, at highway speeds they would self cancel too soon. If it was time only, at low speed they would remain on too long. Very handy thing to have.

MrMelon
20th December 2004, 13:23
I could do with some of these. I'm always leaving my fricken indicators on. :(

Biff
20th December 2004, 13:40
I could do with some of these. I'm always leaving my fricken indicators on. :(

Hence the reason for this post, potentially a bloody dangerous mistake - forgetting to switch your indicators off.

So I guess the next question is, why the hell aren't they standard on road bikes? Mr Honda, My Suzuki etc - answers on a postcard to the usual address please.

mr x
20th December 2004, 18:08
Glad to see I'm not the only one who forgets to switch them off.
I thought it was just an L plate thing.

Hitcher
20th December 2004, 18:16
If anybody ever invents a sensible heads-up display for a helmet visor, the first thing that needs to go on it is an indicator light...

Jackrat
20th December 2004, 19:25
My 83XS has them.
I just resently bought a unit to replace the self canceling feature.
Never did like them.
They worked on a timer of some kind an would cancel when you didn't want them to.
I put them in the same catagory as electric starters. :no:

James Deuce
20th December 2004, 19:30
I could do with some of these. I'm always leaving my fricken indicators on. :(

I know - I saw you today with one on on a straight bit of road. :)

Skunk
20th December 2004, 19:32
I find that I never leave mine on.

I never turn them on either :Pokey:

Really, I make a habit of pushing the cancel button every so often (more often round town). But usually I don't forget.

Kickaha
20th December 2004, 19:52
I was talking with a guy at the weekend who believes that self cancelling indicators on m'bikes could save hundreds of accidents every year. I'm sure that such a feature has been tried out before on some older bikes.

Any of you guys ever heard of these? Ever had a bike with them on? Any good? How do they work?

Cheers

Got a bike with these on,1982 Yamaha XJ550RH works off the speedo somehow as when the cable is disconnected they don't work

MSTRS
20th December 2004, 20:07
If anybody ever invents a sensible heads-up display for a helmet visor, the first thing that needs to go on it is an indicator light...
Try Ohakea or Wigram, there's bound to be a spare helmet or two that Helen will sell you cheap. Could try for a weapons system too - I'm told they're effective at clearing obstacles at a distance :2guns:

Skunk
20th December 2004, 20:21
Could try for a weapons system tooMmmm, weapons.

:doh:

scumdog
20th December 2004, 20:43
Mmmm, weapons.

:doh:

Just picked up some 13.5 X 92mm ammo, anybody got a rifle to suit?? :crazy:

Skunk
20th December 2004, 20:51
Just picked up some 13.5 X 92mm ammo, anybody got a rifle to suit?? :crazy:Woohoo, gun thread! :niceone:

Bonez
20th December 2004, 20:58
Hence the reason for this post, potentially a bloody dangerous mistake - forgetting to switch your indicators off. Just connect a buzzer into the indicator curcuit as a wee reminder. Worked on my '76 CB550 ok.

scumdog
20th December 2004, 21:00
Woohoo, gun thread! :niceone:
One of those rifles 'kills at both ends' :crazy:

avgas
20th December 2004, 21:02
i think i need my front indicators again, glow is bad

riffer
21st December 2004, 06:39
Never had a bike with self-cancelling indicators.

However I have got in the habit of pushing the off button even when the indicators aren't going. :doh:

moko
21st December 2004, 06:57
I had an RD400 years ago that had them and they were brilliant,dont know why Yam dropped them.I`m pretty sure Kawasaki tried as well,at least on the Z1R but no-one else seemed to get it right.A lot of bigger bikes in the late 70`s here had indicator bleepers fitted as standard but they got dropped when someone pointed out that they made the same sound as the pedestrian crossings do to tell blind people it`s o.k. to cross(!)plus they were bloody annoying.

FROSTY
21st December 2004, 07:16
Do " modern " bikes not have self cancellers?? EEP
Ohh and the way they work is off of the odo in the speedo.

Biff
21st December 2004, 07:57
I can't remember when I did last leave my indicators on to be honest. But I have been driving in a cage some distance behind a bike that had left its indicators on back in the UK. Some biatch pulled out in front of him and he T boned her bonnet. She obviously thought he was turning - he wasn't. He was ok though, just stunned . She just screamed for ages shouting, "i've killed him".

Dodgyiti
21st December 2004, 11:00
My old Yamaha XJ650 (born 1981) had self cancelling indicators as did most of Big Yamahas around that time. When I next bought a Yamaha (87 SRX600) they no longer featured - probably hit and miss weather the indicators worked. I know I had a few problems with the wiring hence only 3 or 4 WOF's over 8 years of ownership :innocent:

Yep, my XJ had them, not 100% reliable, but I thought they were a good safety thing at the time.
I have trouble cancelling them on my Honda, and to take my thumb off the bars to do it gives me less strength to hang on during more rapid acceleration :thud:

Biff
21st December 2004, 11:20
Yep, my XJ had them, not 100% reliable, but I thought they were a good safety thing at the time.
I have trouble cancelling them on my Honda, and to take my thumb off the bars to do it gives me less strength to hang on during more rapid acceleration :thud:

Eh? Erm, I'm occassionaly partial to the odd bit of rapid acceleration as well yet I can still manage to move my thumb an inch to press the cancel button. Either you're a midget (or a yung un) with tiny hands, or I have big fingers.

.............. Update, the missis tells me she loves my big fingers. I don't know what she's talking about
:spudwhat:

ajturbo
21st December 2004, 13:25
my turbo has them ...but i still check they are off.....

vifferman
21st December 2004, 13:32
If anybody ever invents a sensible heads-up display for a helmet visor, the first thing that needs to go on it is an indicator light...That's a good point (or at least nearly relevant enough to lead in to what I was going to say).
I found that leaving the indicators on was easier to do on the FahrtSturm, as the repeater doodads (technical term) on the instrument panel were not "in yer face!", whereas on the VifFerraRi they're more obvious, so I do it less oftener.

I vaguely remember some Yammerer back in the 70s had self-cancelling doodads. But then again, I could be wrong, as I'm nearly 106, and nearly 106% brain-dead.:buggerd: