Hypermiling

[Hitcher]

Are all Americans idiots?

Discuss.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4505436a19716.html

[Mental Trousers]

Looks like there's going to be a bit of a surge in merkins getting killed.

[onearmedbandit]

Not at all. From what I've been told Waylander is ok.



[edit] - Just been told he's actually Canadian.

[RC1]

[edit] - Just been told he's actually Canadian.

AND THATS OK ?? :shutup:

[GaZBur]

Surely not all - but at least the hypermillers are!

Pumping up your tyres to maximum and then slipstreaming behind other vehicles basically means that everyone you follow to reduce your fuel consumption is capable of out braking you = you crash into the back of them when they hit the anchors!

"Among Thomas' techniques is "pulse and glide" in which he accelerates and then coasts with the engine off until around 15 mph when he kicks the engine back on and accelerates again."
So what would you do if you had to follow this person on the road, and road rage in America is different coz they all got 357 Magnums in the glovebox!

There would be greater fuel savings if you just removed these idiots off the road.

[Mikkel]

It was only a matter of time before the americans started getting environmentally conscious (eh, or financially conscious at least) - no surprise that they go about it in a stupid way.

Anyway, seems to be the done thing around Chch... :rolleyes:
At least, if people start drafting my cage, I should be able to get someone to replace my rear bumper for me... :yes:

[Edbear]

"Among Thomas' techniques is "pulse and glide" in which he accelerates and then coasts with the engine off until around 15 mph when he kicks the engine back on and accelerates again"

Isn't that what happens on the Auckland motorways now..?

[MisterD]

Isn't that what happens on the Auckland motorways now..?

No, that's the "mash the accelerator then mash the brake" technique.:argh:

[Hitcher]

The extent of the inanity prevalent in this article is a belief that if all Americans adopted this practice, then that country wouldn't have to import any oil.

[jrandom]

"Wayne Gerdes, a former nuclear plant operator from Wadsworth, Illinois, and the originator of hypermiling, said he twice as much mileage out of his Ford Ranger pickup truck using the system."

Yes, that's right, out of his Ford Ranger pickup truck.

:lol:

Of course, driving and riding with a view to fuel efficiency is never a bad idea. On Betty, I get 330km from 20L at 'highway cruising' pace, and 160km from 20L at trackdays.

[jrandom]

The extent of the inanity prevalent in this article is a belief that if all Americans adopted this practice, then that country wouldn't have to import any oil.

He didn't say "if all Americans adopted this practice". He said "if all vehicles on American roads got 45mpg". Precision in debate, please!

And I wouldn't be too hasty to condemn that as complete bollocks:

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[Grub]

Wayne Gerdes, a former nuclear plant operator from Wadsworth, Illinois, and the originator of hypermiling, said he twice as much mileage out of his Ford Ranger pickup truck using the system

Well if Wanye baby (and the rest of his country's persons) drove a sensible vehicle and not a 4 litre 4WD monster that probably never goes off road, then they wouldn't need to import oil anyway!

EPA Figures ....
Ford Ranger 4WD truck 4.0L, 5-Sp Auto: 5.3Km/L (15mpg) city and 6.8km/L (19mpg) highway

Honda Accord 2.4L, 5-Sp Auto: 8.5Km/L (24 mpg) city | 11.7Km/L (33 mpg) highway

Honda Civic 1.5L, 5-Sp Man: 9.2Km/L (26mpg) city and 12.0Km/L (34mpg) Highway

Grub's CBR600F 0.6L, 6-Sp Man: 18.4Km/L city and 20.69Km/L highway

So a manual Civic would halve Wayne's gas consumption ... and that's before we start talking about the cool-bike option :)

[scumdog]

No, that's the "mash the accelerator then mash the brake" technique.:argh:

True - and how often do you see somebody gun it away from the lights only to end up standing on the brakes at the next set??:crazy:

[Grub]

True - and how often do you see somebody gun it away from the lights only to end up standing on the brakes at the next set??:crazy:


Usually when there's a motorbike there ... :dodge:

[Ixion]

"nuclear plant operator" ? Hm, some other dude had a job like that. can't remember who.

Seriously, in my youff, most people were much more concerned about fuel economy than they are now. Nowdays, relative to incomes petrol is still VERY cheap. Back then there were even competions, like the big US Mobilgas Economy Runs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobil_Economy_Run). Doing well in the economy runs could make or break a Dertoit manufactures sales. The results (and progress reports) were headline news.

And the technizues mentioned were part of the repotoire of the professional drivers in the competitions.

Maybe when petrol hits $3 we'll see people demanding better economy .

[Grub]

Hypermiling

Meh, just a new-fangled fancy word for Maori Overdrive

[Edbear]

We should all be driving FIat 500's, like this. The 1.2 lt gets 60mpg and the turbo diesel gets 70mpg and cranks out 75hp!

[Mikkel]

"nuclear plant operator" ? Hm, some other dude had a job like that. can't remember who.

Damn good point!


Maybe when petrol hits $3 we'll see people demanding better economy .

I doubt it.

Actually I think the government should just double the fuel prices and use that money to improve NZ's infrastructure to be more energy efficient. That would be foresight and I'm sure it would help ease congestion too. If not, double it once more and then I'm sure we'll start seeing cars carrying passengers besides the driver!

Then again, considering the ineptitude of NZ politicians I actually think that there'll be more foresight in Joe Blog using his money to buy beers and smokes.

[Mikkel]

We should all be driving FIat 500's, like this. The 1.2 lt gets 60mpg and the turbo diesel gets 70mpg and cranks out 75hp!

I very much doubt it'll get 70 mpg @ 75 hps...

[jim.cox]

We should all be driving FIat 500's

Nice - but its still a frigging cage

Bikes, mate, thats what we should riding

[Beemer]

Are all Americans idiots?

Discuss.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4505436a19716.html

I can see this going the way of the "are all female motorcyclists lesbian?" thread...:argue:

[MisterD]

He didn't say "if all Americans adopted this practice". He said "if all vehicles on American roads got 45mpg". Precision in debate, please!

And I wouldn't be too hasty to condemn that as complete bollocks:



Notice how that isn't broken down any further though. Merkins are utterly dependent on oil because nearly all their freight goes by road - check with Kenwood and Peterbilt- but I reckon it'll be a while until any of their vehicles can do that kind of economy.

[scumdog]

Notice how that isn't broken down any further though. Merkins are utterly dependent on oil because nearly all their freight goes by road -

Not unlike a certain country in the middle of nowhere - and that doesn't even have any oil...:whistle:

[Mental Trousers]

Notice how that isn't broken down any further though. Merkins are utterly dependent on oil because nearly all their freight goes by road - check with Kenwood and Peterbilt- but I reckon it'll be a while until any of their vehicles can do that kind of economy.
Don't you mean Kenworth??

[MisterD]

Don't you mean Kenworth??

Erm...yes...now, was I thinking of car stereos or cooking tonight's dinner...:doh:

[Sully60]

"If every vehicle in the US got 45 miles per gallon, we would not import any oil," he said.




And their "commander in chief" vetoed the bill to impose a 35 mpg fuel economy standard.

Once an oil baron, always an oil baron.

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Who are the idiots in America?

[R6_kid]

We should all be driving FIat 500's, like this. The 1.2 lt gets 60mpg and the turbo diesel gets 70mpg and cranks out 75hp!

I want!!!!!!

[Grub]

I want!!!!!!

Not if you lived next to me you don't. After a particularly good party at our flat, the neighbour found her Fiat 500 sideways in her garage.

It was horrible .... she woke me up at 0730 to ask me if I could get it out. What an ungodly hour on a Saturday to wake someone ... has she no consideration!

[Skunk]

We should all be driving FIat 500's, like this. The 1.2 lt gets 60mpg and the turbo diesel gets 70mpg and cranks out 75hp!
Nice for a small car. Would a 6.7 litre V10 fit?

I liked some of the reader comments on the stuff article. :lol:

[Mike748]

I wouldn't want to be slipstreamed by some american tank and definately not with it's engine off!

Without engine assisted braking some of their vehicles would take forever to stop!

[FJRider]

True - and how often do you see somebody gun it away from the lights only to end up standing on the brakes at the next set??:crazy:

NEVER ... I get away FIRST (I ride a YAMAHA)