Releave me.

[Maha]

Have wondered for many years, well four to be exact, as to what the hell the 'Letters' relating to a bike model mean exactly?

GSXR???.... Grossly Sexy Extremely Racey?... I could a bit out with a word or two but what does GSXR stand for?
Same with CB/CBR/CBRR... the list is endeless. VFR/VTR.....etc
I know what ST means but GSXF??...something bla bla Faired??
Any enlightenment on any of these and more would be a great help to release the inner stress of it all. :doctor:

[Str8 Jacket]

Im confused by the title of the thread... I never left you before why would I leave you again? :confused:


:p

[nodrog]

Goat Sex X Rated

[Hitcher]

Please releave me let me go...

And I'm sure we've done this one before somewhere.

[skidMark]

Have wondered for many years, well four to be exact, as to what the hell the 'Letters' relating to a bike model mean exactly?

GSXR???.... Grossly Sexy Extremely Racey?... I could a bit out with a word or two but what does GSXR stand for?
Same with CB/CBR/CBRR... the list is endeless. VFR/VTR.....etc
I know what ST means but GSXF??...something bla bla Faired??
Any enlightenment on any of these and more would be a great help to release the inner stress of it all. :doctor:

R is generally just to put that it's sporty ie racing i guess...

VTR = V Twin.... ermmm R for lolz?...v type engine 2 cylinder...

VFR= V Four R = v type engine four cylinder

CBR = Crouch Ball Rocket....and a few rrrrrrr's for lolz.

[Gubb]

Get Some Xylophones Richard!

[skidMark]

Please releave me let me go...


...Forrrr i don't love you anymooooreeeee.

Shit...i am getting old.:crybaby:

[Str8 Jacket]

...Forrrr i don't love you anymooooreeeee.

Shit...i am getting old.:crybaby:

It's funny how maturity doesn't always come with age.....

[skidMark]

Goat Sex X Rated

Gay Sex X Rabies.

[skidMark]

It's funny how maturity doesn't always come with age.....


I dids a poopy in my diapy.

[fergie]

must be something to do with model ID, "GT" in car terms is "grand touring" but as for 'gswr" and fzr etc, im stuffed if i know!

[Maha]

Please releave me let me go...

And I'm sure we've done this one before somewhere.

I did consider 'Release' but thought better of it.....ya know , gay jokes they commeth.


Get Some Xylophones Richard!

All jokes aside, that could very well be right on the money...:yes:

Im sure ixion will shed some light.

[Str8 Jacket]

I did consider 'Release' but thought better of it.....ya know , gay jokes they commeth.


Ah, but did you consider 'relieve'?.... :p

[jrandom]

Google is your friend.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_gsxr_stand_for

[inlinefour]

Have wondered for many years, well four to be exact, as to what the hell the 'Letters' relating to a bike model mean exactly?

GSXR???.... Grossly Sexy Extremely Racey?... I could a bit out with a word or two but what does GSXR stand for?
Same with CB/CBR/CBRR... the list is endeless. VFR/VTR.....etc
I know what ST means but GSXF??...something bla bla Faired??
Any enlightenment on any of these and more would be a great help to release the inner stress of it all. :doctor:

I dont know but as far as Honda goes, VFR - vee four. VTR - vee twin.

[skidMark]

I dont know but as far as Honda goes, VFR - vee four. VTR - vee twin.


Beat u to it in post 2. :banana:

[Oakie]

Google is your friend.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_gsxr_stand_for

But Wiki isn't always. I don't think that the entry is correct. There was a brief thread on this a couple of years back which explained it all quite well and it was all very logical in the end.

[Maha]

Ah, but did you consider 'relieve'?.... :p

Ohhhhhhhhhhh I seeeeeee, I cocked up the word?....perhaps Mr Hitcher can relieve me on my releave???


Google is your friend.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_gsxr_stand_for

To easy, wheres the fun in that, I enjoy silent conversation.

[Str8 Jacket]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh I seeeeeee, I cocked up the word?....perhaps Mr Hitcher can relieve me on my releave???



Maybe he could relieve you of your release?!

[vifferman]

Most of them are marketing bullshit, and don't mean much - just sound sexy.:rolleyes: And of course the Japanese copy one another, so if one of them puts an 'X' or 'RR' into the name, they all start doing it. Like the cars that have "GT" - it's supposed to mean "Gran Turismo", but most GT cars are not sports tourers, just as those that have "SL" in their name are not "Super Legerra" or super-light.

"R" and "RR" is usually supposed to make you think it is race-derived, race-replica, or whatever, but it's not necessarily so.

There is some vague logic to some of it. For Honda, they started using "CB" to denote their road bikes, back in the '60s, and later added the extra 'R' or three to some models to denote some link with the race bikes. Presumably Kawasaki and Suzuki did the same.

The "CB"or "CBR" or "VFR" is only their marketing designation though - their bikes all have an official factory model number - that for the VFR800 is at the top right of this post: RC46.
"VFR" tells you it's a Vee Four, and originally, the "R" mean it had gear-driven overhead cams. The original V4s had camchains, so were 'VF' designated: VF500, VF750 and VF1000. However, when they got to the "sixth generation" VFRs in 2002, and dropped the gear-driven cams, they didn't drop the "R" as there was already market recognition of the VFR model, and the 2002 model wasn't significantly different enough from the 2001 model to adopt a new model number (like RC47) or a new name, so it's still a VFR800, albeit with the "VTec" appellation.

"VTR" means "Vee Two", and the "R" has been tacked on to make you think it's racy. The VTR1000 SP1, SP2 etc. do have gear-driven cams though, but the vanilla model VTR doesn't.

Yeah, so basically it's all bollocks.

[steved]

Here is one guys opinion.

"Off-road, the CR prefix indicates a lightweight motocross bike, XR a dirt bike and XL a streetlegal dual-sport. On the street, CB means city bike, the suffix R is replica and RR is race replica. VF signifies V-four as in the VFR800. ST means sport touring as in ST1300.

Among the Honda V-twin cruisers, the Shadow range has several styles with names such as Sabre, Spirit and Aero. VLX means a luxury cruiser, and VTX stands is V-Twin Extreme. The last letter of the model name--a VTX1800R, for example--describes the style. R is retro, S is classic, F is sport cruiser, C is performance.

BMW has four basic classes: F, H, K and R. The F650 series encompasses three, single-cylinder dual-sport bikes, the H is a twin-cylinder version. The K series are 4-cylinder bikes, which include the GT (sport touring), LT (touring), R (naked) and S (sport). The R series is the biggest group: the horizontally opposed twin "boxer" with naked, sport, dual-sport and sport-touring versions.

Yamaha has expanded its heavyweight V-twin Star range to 14 models. Royal Stars, Stratoliners, Roadliners, Road Stars and V-Stars offer different styles and levels of equipment.

Super Sport Yamahas have been prefixed YZF since 1994, but are mostly known by their last initials: R1 or R6 (1,000-cc or 600-cc). The FZ1 and FZ6 are less extreme. YZ signifies barebones motocross bikes and an F suffix--YZ450F, for example means it has a four-stroke engine. WR and TT models are more moderate off-roaders.

"We try to give cruisers a name as opposed to number because the customer wants a personal connection," said Derek Brooks, Yamaha's product planning manager. "We come up with 30 or 40 ideas, get them down to 15 or 20 then start searching trademarks and that's where the fun begins."

Brooks recalls that the YZ dirt bike prefix came into use "because they were the last two letters in the alphabet--literally the last word."

V-Max was condensed from "Velocity Maximum" and Virago, dates to 1981, is a case of how a name sounds, rather than what it means (a quarrelsome woman), Brooks said.

Harley has four basic lines, the V-Rod, Dyna, Softtail and Touring but there are many subsets, says Bob Klein, manager of corporate communications.

"The Sportster is our oldest line and goes back to 1957--the V-Rod is the newest and that comes from our signature V and hot rod or street rod heritage," he says.

The Sportster has four models of 883-ccs including the Low, Custom and Racing styles. There are four Dyna: Super Glide, Super Glide Custom, Street Bob and Low Rider. The Softails are Night Train, Springer, Deuce and Fat Boy, the VRSC models are V-Rod, Night Rod and Street Rod and the Touring bikes are Road King, Road Glide and Street Glide.

"The sportster family was given the letter X to identify them--so XLCH, XLCR and so on. The FL letters apply to the touring bikes and go back to the Electraglide in 1965. The FX models appeared in 1971 with the Superglide; they had the forks of a Sportster and the back of a Touring."

With Softails, FX means cruiser and FL is touring. So an FLSTF would be a Softail touring with the last F meaning Fatboy. An FXSTD would be a Softail Deuce cruiser. "If there's an `I' it means injection," he says.

At Kawasaki, the Vulcan series features bikes from 500- to 2000-cc, with a Nomad tourer and Mean Streak, Drifter and Classic cruisers. The Ninja sportbike name survives, still with a ZX prefix, which dates to the Z1 of 1973. ZZs are sport touring. KLR means dual-sport, KLX is offroad and KX is bare-bones motocross.

Suzuki has combined all its cruisers under the Boulevard label with styling and equipment variations. The Hayabusa and Katana sportbikes are Japanese Kanji names and the V-Strom is a big dual sport with a V-twin engine and the "strom" from maelstrom.

The GSX-R (which could mean Grand Sport Extreme-Racing, though it's not defined as such) is turning 20. The SV650 (Sport V-twin) range is expanding to a V-Strom and a naked street bike.

Ducati continues to name its bikes for engine displacement. So the 999 is 999-ccs, R is racing and S is sports. The Multistrada (many roads) is a big dual sport, and the Monster is a barebones streetfighter. The suffixes S and ST followed by number 2, 3 or 4 indicate the number of valves per cylinder."

[Maha]

Maybe he could relieve you of your release?!


Shut the fuck up..........:killingme
Between you and me, we have managed to confuse me beyond brick wallness....:brick:

[Str8 Jacket]

Shut the fuck up..........:killingme
Between you and me, we have managed to confuse me beyond brick wallness....:brick:

Never mind dear, you're just getting old. Get the missus to make you a nice warm cup of shut the f... oh I mean Tea :yes:

[Maha]

Most of them are marketing bullshit, and don't mean much - just sound sexy.:rolleyes: And of course the Japanese copy one another, so if one of them puts an 'X' or 'RR' into the name, they all start doing it. Like the cars that have "GT" - it's supposed to mean "Gran Turismo", but most GT cars are not sports tourers, just as those that have "SL" in their name are not "Super Legerra" or super-light.

"R" and "RR" is usually supposed to make you think it is race-derived, race-replica, or whatever, but it's not necessarily so.

There is some vague logic to some of it. For Honda, they started using "CB" to denote their road bikes, back in the '60s, and later added the extra 'R' or three to some models to denote some link with the race bikes. Presumably Kawasaki and Suzuki did the same.

The "CB"or "CBR" or "VFR" is only their marketing designation though - their bikes all have an official factory model number - that for the VFR800 is at the top right of this post: RC46.
"VFR" tells you it's a Vee Four, and originally, the "R" mean it had gear-driven overhead cams. The original V4s had camchains, so were 'VF' designated: VF500, VF750 and VF1000. However, when they got to the "sixth generation" VFRs in 2002, and dropped the gear-driven cams, they didn't drop the "R" as there was already market recognition of the VFR model, and the 2002 model wasn't significantly different enough from the 2001 model to adopt a new model number (like RC47) or a new name, so it's still a VFR800, albeit with the "VTec" appellation.

"VTR" means "Vee Two", and the "R" has been tacked on to make you think it's racy. The VTR1000 SP1, SP2 etc. do have gear-driven cams though, but the vanilla model VTR doesn't.

Yeah, so basically it's all bollocks.

Is what thought..excellent post btw!

[Maha]

Never mind dear, you're just getting old. Get the missus to make you a nice warm cup of shut the f... oh I mean Tea :yes:

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh the relief!!!.....I win???......:bleh:

[Swoop]

VFR = Visual Flight Rules.

Ask any pilot.

[Maha]

the Hayabusa is technically not a GSXR but some hybrid between the that and the Katana given it's model moniker GSX1300R.

Found this in jrandoms link.....didnt know that either.

[Cajun]

Have wondered for many years, well four to be exact, as to what the hell the 'Letters' relating to a bike model mean exactly?

GSXR???.... Grossly Sexy Extremely Racey?... I could a bit out with a word or two but what does GSXR stand for?
Same with CB/CBR/CBRR... the list is endeless. VFR/VTR.....etc
I know what ST means but GSXF??...something bla bla Faired??
Any enlightenment on any of these and more would be a great help to release the inner stress of it all. :doctor:

meaning of GSX-R
The GS denotes four cylinders with overhead valves.
The X means four valves per cylinder
The R is for race replica.

[Cajun]

the Hayabusa is technically not a GSXR but some hybrid between the that and the Katana given it's model moniker GSX1300R.

Found this in jrandoms link.....didnt know that either.

yes since is know as a GSX1300R not a GSX-R 1300, so its not a race replica bike its more sport touring aimed.

[Coldrider]

Honda was phasing out inline fours with the VF fours, but when they started to go to custard they very quickly went back to their sucsess story IL4's, and the tradtional CB handle with a update feature R.
Suzuki went from GT two strokes to GS four strokes, X's and R's being added with renewed model lines.
The more X's & R's you can add value & dollars to the sale price.

[Maha]

yes since is know as a GSX1300R not a GSX-R 1300, so its not a race replica bike its more sport touring aimed.


And Kawasaki???
ZZR/ZX/Z...the X and the R seems to be covered but the Z's???

[vifferman]

And Kawasaki???
ZZR/ZX/Z...the X and the R seems to be covered but the Z's???
The Zed goes back to their Z1 of the late 70s, and has been used ever since.

[Maha]

The Zed goes back to their Z1 of the late 70s, and has been used ever since.

So its just a Letter they thought at the time, was relavent to the bike produced?

[Cajun]

And Kawasaki???
ZZR/ZX/Z...the X and the R seems to be covered but the Z's???

no idea maha, know the suzuki side of stuff than kawa

[Coldrider]

And Kawasaki???
ZZR/ZX/Z...the X and the R seems to be covered but the Z's???
Kawasaki just have to be different.
Most of the ZZZR and ZX#R are actually ZX###.
My ZX9R is a ZX900C, the rest is to make a nice badge or transfer.

[Cruisin' Craig]

I was told the following long ago by a biker I used to work with.

"CB" stands for "commuter bike".
"CBX" is commuter bike, extra. In other words they bung a few extra features such as anti dive brakes on a CB and call it a CBX.
"CBR" is a more obviously more racey than a commuter bike.
"VF" is vee four (which makes sense since VT's are vee twins).
Again, a "VFR" is a slightly raced up version of a VF.

"GP" is general purpose. At least when used by Suzuki. Not sure what it means when Kawasaki use it.
Don't know about GSX though. Or TL for that matter.

[Maha]

no idea maha, know the suzuki side of stuff than kawa

TLR and TLS? Same bike different look?...TLR being the better looking with full fairings.
Unless ya know exactly what the difference between the two are (if any) the I would buy the TLR....on looks alone. Not that Im buying one of cause, just an example.

[Coldrider]

Interestingly outside work today is a yamaha YB6, early 70's commuter style, when at school a mate had a yamaha YDS5 or 6, which went to become the RD250 next model on. Try to make that one out.

[Maha]

I was told the following long ago by a biker I used to work with.

"CB" stands for "commuter bike".
"CBX" is commuter bike, extra. In other words they bung a few extra features such as anti dive brakes on a CB and call it a CBX.
"CBR" is a more obviously more racey than a commuter bike.
"VF" is vee four (which makes sense since VT's are vee twins).
Again, a "VFR" is a slightly raced up version of a VF.

"GP" is general purpose. At least when used by Suzuki. Not sure what it means when Kawasaki use it.
Don't know about GSX though. Or TL for that matter.


Thanks for that CC....CBR could really be Commuter Bike Racey?
CBRR .....Thats double Racey innit?
I wont even touch Cagiva Raptor.....;)

[Cajun]

TLR and TLS? Same bike different look?...TLR being the better looking with full fairings.
Unless ya know exactly what the difference between the two are (if any) the I would buy the TLR....on looks alone. Not that Im buying one of cause, just an example.

TL = Twin L. (number of cylinders, arraingment of cylinders).
Think the S means sport
and R is racing

(can't confirm S or R)

[Ixion]

I was told the following long ago by a biker I used to work with.

"CB" stands for "commuter bike".
"CBX" is commuter bike, extra. In other words they bung a few extra features such as anti dive brakes on a CB and call it a CBX.
"CBR" is a more obviously more racey than a commuter bike.
"VF" is vee four (which makes sense since VT's are vee twins).
Again, a "VFR" is a slightly raced up version of a VF.

"GP" is general purpose. At least when used by Suzuki. Not sure what it means when Kawasaki use it.
Don't know about GSX though. Or TL for that matter.

Unfortunately, not.

The CB designation came out in the 60s. At that stage Honda made several variants of their bikes. For instance, the 305 cc Dream was the C77, with pressed steel frame and leading link forks. The same engine in a cradle frame with proper forks became the CB77. In street scrambler mode the CL77 (I think). There was a CA77 in there too. I think that may have been the USA version of hte C77.

So the "commuter" was just 'C'. Then they dropped the fressed steel frames, and switched to tube cradles for the commuters. Those became CD, eg CD175.

The X in CBX indicated DOHC. (I think in Suzuki's GSXR it indicates water cooled)

The R and RR pretended to indicate Race or Race Replica.

CP indicated a Police model

[inlinefour]

Beat u to it in post 2. :banana:

Indeed you do, for someone who preaches about the ghayness of Honda, your sure know alot about them. Is there something that your not telling us bro??? sikdMark + HONDA = :love:

[vifferman]

Ixion, you forgot the CL (Street Scrambler) and CT (CunTy sTepThrough?) models.
Oh - and the CG (as in CG125 and CG150). As in fully enclosed Chain Guard?

And then there was the MT and MB models (two smokers), the GLs, and those funky CX v-twins.

[Maha]

Kawasaki just have to be different.
Most of the ZZZR and ZX#R are actually ZX###.
My ZX9R is a ZX900C, the rest is to make a nice badge or transfer.

Any idea on the ER6?... See, numbers I can do but the letters?.. been some good explainations posted.
Triumph dont fuck around....just give the bike a name.
Daytona
Speed Triple
Bonneville
Rocket
Thruxton.... all punchy names!

[Ixion]

No, I mentioned the CL77.

CT, twin transmission ie hi/low range I think

I have a suspicion that the CG models indicated non Japan origin. I think the system broke down and pretty well collapsed in later years.

[Squiggles]

You'll go blind.

[Str8 Jacket]

well now I am confuzzled! I have three bikes, ive got:
A100 = Arsehole (cause it aint going at the mo) but usually A= Awesome
H100 = Hell on Wheels, which is exactly what it is!
RG150= ????????

[Ixion]

Any idea on the ER6?... See, numbers I can do but the letters?.. been some good explainations posted.
Triumph dont fuck around....just give the bike a name.
Daytona
Speed Triple
Bonneville
Rocket
Thruxton.... all punchy names!

But the real Triumphs had numbers too:

T100R
Speed Twin 5T
T120(R)
(BSA) A70
T120R (1964 - 1966) There WAS a Meridan Thruxton

[vifferman]

No, I mentioned the CL77.
So you did. :yes:


CT, twin transmission ie hi/low range I think
I prefer my explanation.


I have a suspicion that the CG models indicated non Japan origin. I think the system broke down and pretty well collapsed in later years.
That just proved my thesis that it was all bollocks, and there's actually no system.
Like the VTR1000 RC51 being called an RC51 in Mrka (where the VTR was actually developed, derived from the NT650 Hawk), even though it didn't fit the RC designation for some esoteric and anorak reason (can't remember). The Mrkns wanted to shoehorn it in and play on a heritage that it didn't have.

[Daffyd]

Any idea on the ER6

Can't do the 'ER', but the 'n' denotes 'naked', 'f' denotes 'faired', and 'Versys' denotes 'Versatile System'.

[Forest]

I always thought that the base model was the GS. Because basically the bike is Good Shit bro.

Then they added an X. Because the marketing department wanted people to know that the bike was Extreme!

Then they added an R. Because R is like totally Radical man.

[skidMark]

I always thought that the base model was the GS. Because basically the bike is Good Shit bro.

Then they added an X. Because the marketing department wanted people to know that the bike was Extreme!

Then they added an R. Because R is like totally Radical man.

I reckon its a math equation thats wrong to figure out how strong to make the frames.:dodge:

[scracha]

GSXR???.... Grossly Sexy Extremely Racey?... I could a bit out with a word or two but what does GSXR stand for?



Gee, SeX, aRggh

[Cruisin' Craig]

Unfortunately, not.

The CB designation came out in the 60s. At that stage Honda made several variants of their bikes. For instance, the 305 cc Dream was the C77, with pressed steel frame and leading link forks. The same engine in a cradle frame with proper forks became the CB77. In street scrambler mode the CL77 (I think). There was a CA77 in there too. I think that may have been the USA version of hte C77.

So the "commuter" was just 'C'. Then they dropped the fressed steel frames, and switched to tube cradles for the commuters. Those became CD, eg CD175.

The X in CBX indicated DOHC. (I think in Suzuki's GSXR it indicates water cooled)

The R and RR pretended to indicate Race or Race Replica.

CP indicated a Police model

Every day I learn something new is a good day.

Churrr bro.

[2fst4u]

R is generally just to put that it's sporty ie racing i guess...

VTR = V Twin.... ermmm R for lolz?...v type engine 2 cylinder...

VFR= V Four R = v type engine four cylinder

CBR = Crouch Ball Rocket....and a few rrrrrrr's for lolz.

the 'R's are for the southerners ;)

[EJK]

FXR? GN?
Fuk its getting complicated

[Bonez]

CB stands for "City Bike".

C-Camchain tensioner.
B-breaks.
R- repeatedly.

CG is the humble OHV.

The first GSXRs wheren't water cooled. Early R bikes did have full fairings and trick race rep bits.
The X in GSX stood for 4-valve heads. For example there was a 2 valve GS400 and a 4 valve GSX. The GS designation was kept on early Suzuki 4 valvers in the US (and I believe the US only) so as not to confuse American consumers. Another example is the GS500 and the GSX250(il4 or twin take your pick). Confusion comes with the GS1200 though. Now GSF? Gobsmacked Silly Fuck?
The S in GS is for 4 strokes T in GT desigenated 2 strokes. So therefore G must mean it's a two wheel road going contraption of some kind.

[riffer]

FXR? GN?
Fuk its getting complicated

Pretty obvious with Suzuki these really.

I ride a Gay Noob 250 bike. My bike is FuXoRed (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fuxor).

Me, I ride a Rattly Fairing.