Suzuki problem, or has boomer just had too many pies?

[skidMark]

Whats going on? from what i understand boomer has broken at least 2 subframe on his New GSXR 1000...just from riding, not crashing...

How are these bikes being allower to be built. it's not like boomer a big fat fella he would weight in at what i would estimate to be 80 kg's ish.

I think he has had other problems also, i'm sure he will be in soon enough to enlighten us.

But a near new bike breaking 2 subframes now? even 20 year old bikes dont have them suddenly break, so what for the new tissue paper bikes like the gsxr...in 20 years time are they all going to be in garage corner with broken subframes/ frames etc... they just really do not seem built to last.

I feel it needs to be seriously discussed, considering theamount of these bikes that are being sold. take my bias out of this. it is a safety issue.

Skid.

[McDuck]

How hard is he weiling them? While it is not right suzuki make the bike to go fast not have hard landings on the road.

[karla]

I worry about shite metal being used to make newer bikes too. It would be interesting to know more about the quality control processes for metal testing.

I had two small metal things break on my Suzuki (2007) - a blinker assembly and a helmet lock. Both just snapped without any force being applied. Not biggies, but I wouldn't have thought that could happen if decent metal was used.

[Katman]

I doubt a broken sub-frame could be attributed to wheelstands (maybe from stoppies though) but certainly frames breaking up at the steering head are almost certainly the fault of treatment that the bike is not designed for. I think the very fact that Suzuki are not currently facing huge lawsuits shows that they actually have no case to answer regarding broken mainframes. GSXR1000s are designed and built as racebikes - not stunt bikes.

[imdying]

I worry about shite metal being used to make newer bikes too.It's the improved quality of the metal that lets them build the bikes at all... it's one of the reasons why if you took a set of blueprints for a GSXR back 30 years, they still couldn't build one... the metal simply couldn't handle it.

[AllanB]

Dang - has he been picking up girls from weight watchers again........


He should have purchased a HONDA - no problems there.

[jafar]

I doubt a broken sub-frame could be attributed to wheelstands (maybe from stoppies though) but certainly frames breaking up at the steering head are almost certainly the fault of treatment that the bike is not designed for. I think the very fact that Suzuki are not currently facing huge lawsuits shows that they actually have no case to answer regarding broken mainframes. GSXR1000s are designed and built as racebikes - not stunt bikes.

The differences between a racebike & a stunt bike are what exactly ? A bike should not be breaking in the subframe ( or anywhere else ) due to street riding.

[dipshit]

The differences between a racebike & a stunt bike are what exactly ?

One of these is a stunt bike and the other is a racebike. Can you tell the difference now?

[jafar]

One of these is a stunt bike and the other is a racebike. Can you tell the difference now?

Thanks for that :eek5:

So the answer is bugger all then :doh::laugh:

[Katman]

A bike should not be breaking in the subframe ( or anywhere else ) due to street riding.

And guess what - wheelstands are not a legitimate part of street riding. Motorcycle manufacturers do not take into account how well their motorcycles cope with wheelstands if they are trying to produce a machine that is unbeatable on the racetrack. Motorcycles are actually designed to be ridden on two wheels.

[dipshit]

Thanks for that :eek5:

So the answer is bugger all then :doh::laugh:

No, the difference is huge. People who are seriously into stunting only use their stunt bike for stunting and nothing else. (i.e. not even for street use) Because they know full well that stunting fucks them.

A racebike on the other hand is designed as light as possible to help them win races. Lasting 30 years or doing circus tricks is not engineered into their design.

[McDuck]

The differences between a racebike & a stunt bike are what exactly ?

A stunt bike is designed to handle pounding and bending from odd angles and places where a race bike isnt. (BTW when i said wheel stands i ment landing them with a nasty thump)

[boomer]

Who said the second rear sub frame had/has been wheelied? And i don't do stoppies (not since i fell of the cbr600rr trying to do 'em)

[Katman]

A stunt bike is designed to handle pounding and bending from odd angles and places where a race bike isnt. (BTW when i said wheel stands i ment landing them with a nasty thump)

I realise what you meant McDuck. The subframe is the bit bolted (or welded) on to the back of the frame that the seat is mounted on - not likely to be affected by wheelstands although stoppies are a different story.

[McDuck]

Who said the second rear sub frame had/has been wheelied? And i don't do stoppies (not since i fell of the cbr600rr trying to do 'em)

Could you please provide pics of the brakes?


Or would that be introducing to much info into the fight?

[Katman]

Could you please provide pics of the brakes?




What? Don't you believe him when he says he doesn't do stoppies? (Or perhaps you meant breaks).:msn-wink:

[McDuck]

I realise what you meant McDuck. The subframe is the bit bolted (or welded) on to the back of the frame that the seat is mounted on - not likely to be affected by wheelstands although stoppies are a different story.

Lol yea i was thinking about the other end :rolleyes:

I droped by to see you at about 5pm last monday but you were nowhere ot be found?

[Katman]

I droped by to see you at about 5pm last monday but you were nowhere ot be found?

That must have been at 1 minute past 5. :msn-wink:

[inlinefour]

The differences between a racebike & a stunt bike are what exactly ? A bike should not be breaking in the subframe ( or anywhere else ) due to street riding.

A stunt bike has its frame strengthened and tank bashed in so it can be sat on. It has grab rails and often bars to protect it when its crashed for practice. A drag bar on the back to drag on the ground, put a foot on while doing a mono and for holding if they are being dragged behind the bike. Anyone who thinks they can take a standard sportsbike and stunt in is a retard and is asking for a bin.:spanking:

[McDuck]

That must have been at 1 minute past 5. :msn-wink:

Was that you leaving on the bike or some random person? I was rather disappointed, i had done some rather illegal caging to get there on 5pm...

[Katman]

Was that you leaving on the bike or some random person? I was rather disappointed, i had done some rather illegal caging to get there on 5pm...

Can't have been me - I would have been in the ute.

[boomer]

it has a break in it right the way through a non welded part... its brocken.. what the fook does it matter about pics :lol:

[McDuck]

Can't have been me - I would have been in the ute.

So you were in there with the door shut?

[Katman]

So you were in there with the door shut?

If the ute was there why didn't you stop in?

[McDuck]

If the ute was there why didn't you stop in?

fucked if i know, it looked all shut up and i have seen the ute outside at odd hours before.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Buy My R6-V

[Maha]

And guess what - wheelstands are not a legitimate part of street riding. Motorcycle manufacturers do not take into account how well their motorcycles cope with wheelstands if they are trying to produce a machine that is unbeatable on the racetrack. Motorcycles are actually designed to be ridden on two wheels.

Yeah I wish these two clowns would listen!!.....:blip:



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[Katman]

Yeah I wish these two clowns would listen!!.....:blip:


And you know full well that is not what I'm talking about. Those bikes do not have the same longevity expectations that your average road bike does.

[FJRider]

As long as they finish the race, minimum weight. Thats always the bottom line.