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El Lanzo
9th May 2008, 16:24
Hi.... I'm pretty angry at myself atm, i just came of my bike going around a corner in the wet very slowly. Only myself to blame really, but i had asked my parents to use the car to go to school to hand my assignment in but they needed it ><

I was going very slowly around a corner on my 2006 Suzuki GN250 to the left and just slipped to one side at very low speed, small scrape on my knee.

As far as i can tell, i:
-broke me left mirror off (the thing which holds the actual mirror part is still there)
-Back left indicator (i think?) just stays on rather than blinking when i indicate left and its a bit bent from where it sticks out
-Front indicator is a bit bent from where it sticks out, still blinks when i indicate but the orangey shell part isnt connected properly to the frame no more
-My front wheel seems to be slightly crooked (to the left i think?)now but is still rideable
-Cosmetically the rubber on the bottom of the foot rest for my left foot is a bit torn up but still holds my foot fine

Basically can anyone tell me how much this would cost to get repaired roughly? I'm dreading this because my dad told me not to get one and dont have too much spare to repair this :argh:

Ragingrob
9th May 2008, 16:32
Oh man sucks to hear that, hit a white line or something? Yeah it's a bad day for riding in aucks! Where you leaning a bit?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Engine-drive-train/auction-153982196.htm

Maybe ask that guy for the diff parts?

Back indicator could be checked out by yourself just check the wiring, there must be something slightly off.

Front wheel is kinda wondering if it's bent?? How hard was this crash! Did the wheel hit the curb or something?

Squiggles
9th May 2008, 16:39
Bring it round, im wrecking one too at the moment, just pm me

edit: Bring it round assuming its ridable

Ragingrob
9th May 2008, 16:40
Bring it round, im wrecking one too at the moment, just pm me

:wacko: I didn't even thing of you Stephen! Ha!

Wheeliemonsta
9th May 2008, 16:40
Gidday El Lanzo,
Head to the Yellow Pages & let your fingers do the walking...

GN 250's have been around since Adam was a piss poor cowboy & luckily for you most wreckers will have plentiful stocks of good second hand stuff kicking about that will cost you a lot less than new...

Do yourself a favour & ring around to see what they've got, but when it comes time to go pick the bits up take your old damaged parts with you to compare them to what the wreckers are offering...

All up I would have thought you'd have got whatever bits you require for under $100.00 notes

In as far as your front end is concerned, bite the bullet & book it in to the dealers & have them inspect it - it's better to be safe than sorry, chances are the forks have just twisted in the triple clamps which can be remidied very easily...

I'm thinking it will be cheaper for you to fix it yourself (with the help of someone suitably knowledgeable) rather than claim on your insurance...

Cheers

:rockon:

avgas
9th May 2008, 16:54
Wheel can be straightned easy, if it has no major bends, warps or dents a good mechanic can just adjust the spokes.
the rest should only set you back a couple of hundred MAX.
Ideally you should be back on the road for less than $100.

El Lanzo
9th May 2008, 17:05
This is the first ever vehicle ive owned with cars included. If i take to a mechanic or whatever to fix, should i have the parts such as the indicator and mirror myself, as i doubt i'd be able to fix this myself. I dont mind handing bike over to someone, im just hoping it can be fixed for under 300$ in total in fact i'd prefer it.

Yeah i have to ride with the handle bars every so slightly in one direction (cant remember if its left or right) to travel straight, i was able to ride it home after the incident fine, i just went at worm speed around corners (which i guess i should have done originally as opposed to turtle speed). I think i would have been going 10kmph or less, and na i didnt hit a curb, just fell over turning on the really smooth ground might have even been the white pedestrian crossing(i cant remember if i leaned, i may have ever so slightly), didnt slide forward at all i dont think.

Maybe i should clarify, real hard to explain stuff i barely understand, i think the actual wheel itself is fine but lyk its more closely to one side of the 'forks?' i think. The change in direction is minimal, i just have to turn my handlebars a few milimetres in one direction

El Lanzo
9th May 2008, 20:52
Ok after looking at it further (albeit in dim light) i found that when i indicated left, my back left light remained on, whilst my front one failed to expel any light what so ever. Also, my dash thingy showed the left light solid whilst when i indicated right it blinked.

Also after inspecting my wheel situation further it looks to me as if the 'mudguard?' is still straight and evenly spaced between the 'forks?' but the actual tyre/wheel is tilted to the left and maybe phsyically a bit more to the left?

Any more feedback you guys can give knowing this? haha ... GRRR /wrist
Thanks

Ragingrob
9th May 2008, 21:01
Do you reckon it's rideable to Epsom tomorrow? Squiggles should be able to get it fixed up, in exchange of amber liquid. Or maybe take pm Frosty, he has a van to carry bikes and offers his workshop on the weekend with any tools you will need.

Cruisin' Craig
9th May 2008, 21:11
Ok after looking at it further (albeit in dim light) i found that when i indicated left, my back left light remained on, whilst my front one failed to expel any light what so ever. Also, my dash thingy showed the left light solid whilst when i indicated right it blinked.

Also after inspecting my wheel situation further it looks to me as if the 'mudguard?' is still straight and evenly spaced between the 'forks?' but the actual tyre/wheel is tilted to the left and maybe phsyically a bit more to the left?

Any more feedback you guys can give knowing this? haha ... GRRR /wrist
Thanks

Sorry to hear about your accident Dude. But don't worry too much; it happens to the best of us :-)

Don't worry about the indicator that doesn't flash mate. It'll work once you fix the other one that isn't working at all. It's just that you need to be drawing a certain amount of current before the flasher unit starts working. As soon as you've got both indicators drawing current, it'll flash just fine.

Squiggles
9th May 2008, 21:16
Yer, the front left bulb has probably blown. with the wheel alignment, like i said in the pm, its quite likely the risers have bent. But put up a pic from above and we'll be able to see for sure. If you bring it round we can sort it easy, there are already 3 GN's in the shed :lol:

pete376403
9th May 2008, 21:28
Straighten the twist in the forks yourself. Put the side of the wheel against the house and turn the bars in the opposite direction to the twist. Easier to do it than explain. You may have to do this a coupe of times until they are straight.
If the spill was as low speed as you say it's extremely unlikely that you have really bent either the forks or the wheel.

karla
9th May 2008, 21:41
Man, I am just so impressed with the help you guys are offering on this forum, it's awesome to see the support from fellow kb'ers.

'Riding GN's in the wet sucks, it's not your fault, they are just made to slide I think, they are so light. I've heard others mention that the tyres on the new GN's are also dangerous, although I hardly ever rode mine in the rain so don't really know about that.

Hope the assignment was worth the journey out into the rain :-)

and kudo's to all here ~

Steam
9th May 2008, 22:05
It will cost you $1 for the new bulb, $2 for a pack of glue-gun sticks to fix the indicators, and also do what Pete said above. That's $3.

swbarnett
9th May 2008, 22:25
Chin up El Lanzo. You've had your first (I presume) bin and it's all uphill from here. Sounds like you've got the help you'll need to get everything sorted.

I'm guessing that you've still using the original tyres? I'd seriously suggest that if you can afford to you replace them with something semi-decent. I got mine from MotoHaus and can thoroughly recommend them. Not only will they be safer but you'll enjoy the bike more as well.

swbarnett
9th May 2008, 22:26
Riding GN's in the wet sucks,
No more than any other bike.


I've heard others mention that the tyres on the new GN's are also dangerous,
This is the real problem. If you look closely at them they look more like car tyres. My GN just didn't want to corner at all until I swapped the standard rubber (and I use the term loosely, they were probably more plastic than rubber) for a pair of Avon Roadriders.

FROSTY
9th May 2008, 22:29
MY honest opinion here dude. Pay $100 or less to fix the indicator/mirror etc. THEN right away go to cycletreads and buy a decent front tyre -$100-150 cos sure as eggs thats what caused yer off

karla
10th May 2008, 08:19
It will cost you $1 for the new bulb, $2 for a pack of glue-gun sticks to fix the indicators, and also do what Pete said above. That's $3.

Look around - the Suzuki dealership here charged the young lady who bought my GN (2006) $17.00 for a new bulb for the back brake light. Ouch! (No customers were injured in this transaction; I paid since most likely the light wasn't working when I sold the bike).

That's a pretty high bar, I'm sure you can get it lowered :)

swbarnett
10th May 2008, 09:02
Look around - the Suzuki dealership here charged the young lady who bought my GN (2006) $17.00 for a new bulb for the back brake light. Ouch! (No customers were injured in this transaction; I paid since most likely the light wasn't working when I sold the bike).

That's a pretty high bar, I'm sure you can get it lowered :)
I've replaced the brake light bulb in mine several time - about $1 - $2 (can't remember exactly) from a service station.

awayatc
10th May 2008, 09:05
Yer, the front left bulb has probably blown. with the wheel alignment, like i said in the pm, its quite likely the risers have bent. But put up a pic from above and we'll be able to see for sure. If you bring it round we can sort it easy, there are already 3 GN's in the shed :lol:

The best offer anybody could give you....get the bike over, watch learn and help......
Having access to tools and being able to use them is an essential part of owning a motorbike....:scooter:

irishlad
10th May 2008, 09:09
$4.95 for a dual filament taillight bulb from Repco.
I think the indicator covers are about $9-10 each. If the indicators are broken, its probably just a wire. Easy to fix, get some connections from a $2 shop. Push both sides of wire into connector & its sorted.

A new set of ventura bars are $45 from Cycletreads. If your tall, a straighter bar will make ride so much more comfortable.

New front tyre, as Frosty said $120- $150. New rear tyre about the same.
Might be best to replace tyres individually so you can scrub them in easier? Not sure on that as everyone has there own opinions.

If doing all this might be worth your while to change oil & filter at same time. $80 will get you 4ltrs of good oil & 2 filters. That will last 6000km of riding.

A little tricky to replace the mirror itself. The back can be removed, knock out the broken bits and replace the glass. Look in $2 shops for small mirrors. You should find one that fits, take the round bit to compare.

Good luck

fLaThEaD FreD
10th May 2008, 09:14
The best offer anybody could give you....get the bike over, watch learn and help......
Having access to tools and being able to use them is an essential part of owning a motorbike....:scooter:
Im also a new member and the support and comraderie is impressive. I've known Frosty for years and he's a top guy.Give him a PM as suggested and take the offer of help from others. Grab some Ambers and watch and learn.
Your luckey,I couldnt find second hand parts for my VN800b:2thumbsup

karla
10th May 2008, 11:13
I've replaced the brake light bulb in mine several time - about $1 - $2 (can't remember exactly) from a service station.


$4.95 for a dual filament taillight bulb from Repco.
I think the indicator covers are about $9-10 each.

That's the problem with being a newcomer and having no knowledge - the powers that be can rip us off blind. Good on you asking for help - wish I had done that before being parted with my hard earned cash. :weep:

Still, the lesson has been learned ~ thank goodness I am still teachable! :hug:

Steam
10th May 2008, 15:42
You only need one mirror for a warrant. If you are poor, just take the broken one off.

RC1
10th May 2008, 16:01
You only need one mirror for a warrant.

is this correct ?? as i was told not long ago that i needed two for a warrant from a bike shop :scratch: and it was @ $200 for a new one

Squiggles
10th May 2008, 17:19
fixed.

The bars are a wee bit crook tho, but given his size, he should change them anyway to flatter bars.
Indicator was fine, the bulb had dislodged, reseated and its all go.

Forks are fine, as suspected the risers had bent down a little. I straightened them but when he sorts the bars he should replace the bolt anyway.

Steam
10th May 2008, 17:34
is this correct ?? as i was told not long ago that i needed two for a warrant from a bike shop :scratch: and it was @ $200 for a new one

"new mopeds and motorcycles must have one rear-view mirror", that's from this LTNZ Fact Sheet here http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/factsheets/39.html#rear

Go get your money back from the bike shop!

El Lanzo
10th May 2008, 18:36
Hehe thanks heaps squiggles! :2thumbsup :clap: :wari:

200$ for a mirror?!?!? wtf?!

karla
11th May 2008, 00:01
is this correct ?? as i was told not long ago that i needed two for a warrant from a bike shop :scratch: and it was @ $200 for a new one

And the moral of this thread is .... don't go to bike shops, talk to those in the know BEFORE making a rash decision that we might later regret. :wari:

El Lanzo
11th May 2008, 00:12
Na the moral of the thread is: El lanzo asks for help alot :2thumbsup

To add to this; i dont know if this is relevant to my wee spill but i tried starting my engine before and it just wouldnt start. When i pressed electric start button it just kept makign the *ring ding ding ding* sound but never actually started. I do know that im running relatively low on fuel but i can still hear a fair bit sloshign around when i shake bike (dunno if thats relevant).

I had ridden it home fine just after the acciden approx 3kms. And i had started it started earlier today but it just wouldnt idle. Me thinks i might take it in to get properly looked at. Any ideas though before i do?

El Lanzo
11th May 2008, 16:37
Hmm nope cant be the fuel, I just put a crap load in. Any ideas?

Henk
11th May 2008, 17:31
Check the state of your battery. Not sure how old yours is but it may have not been that flash to start with and a knock sometimes kills them off. Also since it's getting cold a marginal battery will start to strugle.

Squiggles
11th May 2008, 17:35
Not much to go wrong with it, just ride it for a wee bit. Use the choke to start it, then go for a wee ride, gas up, then see what happens after that

BANZAI
11th May 2008, 19:01
Hey man, nice to meet you yesterday(I was that asian guy at the back of Squiggle's TL)

Did you go to Cycletreads to change tyres? If so how much were they and how long did it take?

And have you had a look around handle bars? I think I'll go for that black one if I can't find anything else eh.

I think the choke will work, coz I did ride mine a wee bit on that day, then needed choke to start (Squiggle's suggestion ofcource :p)

El Lanzo
11th May 2008, 19:29
Yo sup! Umm na i walked to gas station with a container and put the gas in as i just couldnt get it to start using choke or revving as i did it or anything. It just continuously make the "ring ding ding ding" (man, awful description i know =D) sound. Na i didn't change tyres yet as I'm just trying to sort this out atm, worst comes to worst I'm gonna take it to a mechanic. Could anyone recommend one on the North Shore if i do? And any chance anyone knows a link for a gn250 owners manual (not the service one). I just cant seem to find one on teh googles or here :angry: Any more ideas on what i could do myself? haha

El Lanzo
11th May 2008, 19:48
Oh and i have tried starting my bike quite a few times in the last week. Is it possible that it is the battery not giving enough juice or would the sound the engine or whatever makes when i hold electric start down dismiss that? My light and indicators function when i put them on if thats relevant.

I might try charging it as soon as i get the seat off haha

swbarnett
11th May 2008, 23:06
I might try charging it as soon as i get the seat off haha
Although taking the seat off is quite easy you don't have to bother. Just take the right side cover off, the battery is behind it.

xwhatsit
11th May 2008, 23:13
Oh and i have tried starting my bike quite a few times in the last week. Is it possible that it is the battery not giving enough juice or would the sound the engine or whatever makes when i hold electric start down dismiss that? My light and indicators function when i put them on if thats relevant.

I might try charging it as soon as i get the seat off haha
Quite possible -- you hear about this happening with electric start bikes, they have enough juice to turn the bike over, but not enough juice to give a big fat spark at the same time. Plus, now, the plug might be a bit dirty from all that turning over and no firing.

Squiggles
11th May 2008, 23:18
Although taking the seat off is quite easy you don't have to bother. Just take the right side cover off, the battery is behind it.

Give the batt a go on the charger, not too long, especially if its a car one

And while you're at it, get out with the cable ties and cable tie the sidecover on when you're done. They are incredibly good at flying away, never to be seen again. Sidecover just pops out when you pull on it.

El Lanzo
11th May 2008, 23:27
Changing the spark plugs are a cheap and easy thing to do (even for a complete tard) right? haha cause i might try that as well me thinks :rockon:

El Lanzo
12th May 2008, 15:02
OK, had the spark plug cleaned and now its starting and running sweet as =D YAY now i can go riding again with my friend ! woot woot :2thumbsup

karla
12th May 2008, 15:53
OK, had the spark plug cleaned and now its starting and running sweet as =D YAY now i can go riding again with my friend ! woot woot :2thumbsup

Wait, before you go riding off into the sunset, did you get your assignment results back? It was all worth it wasn't it :) LOL

El Lanzo
12th May 2008, 15:55
Lol, na i haven't got it back yet (slack teacher hehe). It was the third and final task of it and i needed merit atleast to get excellence overall (equivalent of an A+ i guess for all u oldies =D) and if i dont get it ima RAGE :bash: lol

BANZAI
12th May 2008, 19:44
Cool! We both need to get new "good" tyres now eh :p

Hey I have owner's manual and could make u a copy. PM me!

Squiggles
12th May 2008, 21:13
Service manual is better, and can be downloaded from all over the net, i've even posted the link a few times here on kb

karla
13th May 2008, 17:27
I need to apologize and set the record straight - although I was quoted $17 for the bulb for my bike I got the visa today and I was only charged $6.00. Dealers have redeemed themselves yet again.

Ugh - second apology today ... that's not good!
I must take more care
I must take more care
I must take more care
I must take more care
I must take more care
I must take more care
I must take more care


Nah, stuff it - back to reality girl! :rockon:

WelshWizard
14th May 2008, 09:05
Hi.... I'm pretty angry at myself atm, i just came of my bike going around a corner in the wet very slowly. Only myself to blame really, but i had asked my parents to use the car to go to school to hand my assignment in but they needed it ><

I was going very slowly around a corner on my 2006 Suzuki GN250 to the left and just slipped to one side at very low speed, small scrape on my knee.

As far as i can tell, i:
-broke me left mirror off (the thing which holds the actual mirror part is still there)
-Back left indicator (i think?) just stays on rather than blinking when i indicate left and its a bit bent from where it sticks out
-Front indicator is a bit bent from where it sticks out, still blinks when i indicate but the orangey shell part isnt connected properly to the frame no more
-My front wheel seems to be slightly crooked (to the left i think?)now but is still rideable
-Cosmetically the rubber on the bottom of the foot rest for my left foot is a bit torn up but still holds my foot fine

Basically can anyone tell me how much this would cost to get repaired roughly? I'm dreading this because my dad told me not to get one and dont have too much spare to repair this :argh:


Bring it round, im wrecking one too at the moment, just pm me

edit: Bring it round assuming its ridable

If Squiggles does not have enough bits to fix it , try Mike at Mt Eden Motorcycles, they own a breakers yard, should be plenty of cheap parts out there for a GN, as they have neen in production so long that many have just worn out the engines but have plenty of good cycle parts on them, also try Trademe

Squiggles
14th May 2008, 11:27
If Squiggles does not have enough bits to fix it , try Mike at Mt Eden Motorcycles, they own a breakers yard, should be plenty of cheap parts out there for a GN, as they have neen in production so long that many have just worn out the engines but have plenty of good cycle parts on them, also try Trademe

Sadly the breakers yard split off and ended up in ponsonby, then closed down last year :(

WelshWizard
15th May 2008, 16:19
Sadly the breakers yard split off and ended up in ponsonby, then closed down last year :(

Yeh but Mike still has all the bits and bobs, thats why I said contact mike

BANZAI
15th May 2008, 20:43
I got new Tyre for GN!

I got Rear IRC RS310 and Front "PIRELLI" City Demon total $194.

I need to get wax off first but guys at cycletreads said it does work far more better than ching-ching!

I probly need to contact Mike as well, I need Straight handlebar and adjustable levers of Kawasaki...