I Think I've Killed It.

[James Deuce]

According to the bike shop where the slightly mangled remains lie, it is likely that the TRX is dead.

Long live the TRX.

I have been casting about for replacement ideas within my budget ($6500-$7500), and given that I am a cash purchaser I will be "negotiating".

I wanted some ideas from you fellas. The TRX is/was very adaptable but I am starting to pay the price for numerous youthful accidents involving sports, girls, drunken binges, car accidents and motorcycle accidents. Therefore I am after something that doesn't punish the knees too badly.

I've found two bikes that I'm very interested in.

1. 98 Honda Hornet 600, 4800kms, $6495
2. 94 Yamaha YZF750R, 12,500kms, $6995.

Any other suggestions/advice gladly accepted. Please bear in mind that I will probably just ignore all advice and buy the shiniest/fastest/best handling bike within my budget anyway.

Jim2

[Devil]

I likes the Hornet'seses. Little fly screen and you're set.

[sedge]

Makes sure the bike shop low balls the wreck when the insurance company asks for a value, then buy it back and make a streetfighter...

Then buy another bike... One bike good... Two bikes better.

Or you could tell 'Kerryg' I'm sure he'd be up for YET ANOTHER bike to play round with.

Sedge.

[James Deuce]

Makes sure the bike shop low balls the wreck when the insurance company asks for a value, then buy it back and make a streetfighter...

Then buy another bike... One bike good... Two bikes better.

Or you could tell 'Kerryg' I'm sure he'd be up for YET ANOTHER bike to play round with.

Sedge.

Everyone keeps saying that, and it's a nice idea, but I just don't have the time or motivation to head down that route. The frame on the TRX would need to be straightened and if that doesn't work out then you are left with what you started out with - a wreck.

[White trash]

Brand new Bandit Six for $8995?

Should be able to find a grouse used one for your price range.

[Krayy]

I'd be asking the wife for more money and go for the Duc 620 we were on about earlier :devil2:

How is she BTW?

PS: Or this Cagiva Raptor
http://bikepoint.co.nz/DesktopDefault.aspx?UsedBikeID=441697&TabID=3553&Alias=bikepointnz

[James Deuce]

Brand new Bandit Six for $8995?

Should be able to find a grouse used one for your price range.It's a thought, but I don't have a "thing" for Bandit 600s at all. I'll have to think about that one though.

[James Deuce]

I'd be asking the wife for more money and go for the Duc 620 we were on about earlier :devil2:

How is she BTW?

PS: Or this Cagiva Raptor
http://bikepoint.co.nz/DesktopDefault.aspx?UsedBikeID=441697&TabID=3553&Alias=bikepointnzShe's good, but the budget is fixed.

I couldn't afford to maintain a Ducati properly.

The Raptor is cool but too expensive.

[Biff]

I'm a huge Hornet fan and owned a Hornet FS a while back after trying all the other usual suspects . So much fun for your money, reliable, cheap to run, pokey etc etc.

I vote Hornet.

[sedge]

Yeah... I guess you're right... I came to the same conclusion when my ZXR was written off... But that was coz my engine had high Ks on it, I would have done it otherwise...

$450 to straighten the frame... If the forks and brakes etc aren't faffed you could have a fighter pretty cheaply... I didn't have it in me to do any work on the ZXR so I talked to Twincam in Paraparam, they offered to do mine up for $1200... incl Frame, forks, risers, bars, clocks and lights + tail reshape etc.

(Bearing in mind my frame was fecked and the forks totally shot, clocks & lights mashed, radiator squashed, seat unit fairing etc gone, it wasn't too bad as it included fixing all that)

If you can get your bike back for under 1k - add in around 1k to fix it you've got a pretty good second bike for ~2k all up...

In hidsight I should have done it... but that's easy to say now... Have a chat to Randall at Twincam in pram.

Cheers,

Sedge.

PS. Guess what I just bought ? Yup, a streetfighter 91 ZXR750... gets delivered Jan 5th :)

[jrandom]

PS. Guess what I just bought ? Yup, a streetfighter 91 ZXR750... gets delivered Jan 5th :)

Was it that orange one on TradeMe?

Ditch that headlight pronto and get a proper one. Shudder.

[jrandom]

I'd buy the Hornet.

But *I'd* like to know how a six-year-old bike can manage to have only 4800 on the clock. Must have been in storage or summat. Was it NZ new?

[avgas]

does the yammy still have the 20v head - cos those went like an rocket. But the hornet does have a nicer riding style.
why not get another TRX - they are the nicest aveage.

[Paul in NZ]

I have been casting about for replacement ideas within my budget ($6500-$7500), and given that I am a cash purchaser I will be "negotiating".


I've found two bikes that I'm very interested in.

1. 98 Honda Hornet 600, 4800kms, $6495
2. 94 Yamaha YZF750R, 12,500kms, $6995.

Any other suggestions/advice gladly accepted.

Stop arseing about with those piles of pooh and buy a Moto Guzzi! It will make a man of you! Well ok... Less ghey any way! ;)

Paul N

(you wouldn't hit a man with glasses would you?)

[jrandom]

(you wouldn't hit a man with glasses would you?)

No, he'd probably use his helmet.

[James Deuce]

does the yammy still have the 20v head - cos those went like an rocket. But the hornet does have a nicer riding style.
why not get another TRX - they are the nicest aveage.
TRXs are about $1500 dearer than when I bought my 12 months agao. Weird eh?

Btw - Forks on the TRX are rooted. It wouldn't be cheap to ressurect

[James Deuce]

I'd buy the Hornet.

But *I'd* like to know how a six-year-old bike can manage to have only 4800 on the clock. Must have been in storage or summat. Was it NZ new?

I'm about to start investigating that. It is NZ new.

[F5 Dave]

TRXs are about $1500 dearer than when I bought my 12 months agao. Weird eh?

Btw - Forks on the TRX are rooted. It wouldn't be cheap to ressurect


Um I think I know someone who is selling a trick version of the TRX. It is std but some weird model with different suspension Brembo brakes etc.

[Hitcher]

I've found two bikes that I'm very interested in.

1. 98 Honda Hornet 600, 4800kms, $6495
2. 94 Yamaha YZF750R, 12,500kms, $6995.

Any other suggestions/advice gladly accepted. Please bear in mind that I will probably just ignore all advice and buy the shiniest/fastest/best handling bike within my budget anyway.
Both nice bikes at good prices, low mileages too.

Of these two, I'd buy the Yamaha.

In your price range too is the Kawasaki ZXR750, the Honda CBR750 and VFR750, not to mention the Yamaha FJ1200 and XJR1200 (if you're interested in something larger and naked).

Happy hunting!

[F5 Dave]

Both nice bikes at good prices, low mileages too.

Of these two, I'd buy the Yamaha. . .



So would I! :headbang: oh hold on. . .

[jrandom]

In your price range too is the... XJR1200

Oooh, really?

Hot damn.

I'll have me one of *those* next year, then.

[James Deuce]

Um I think I know someone who is selling a trick version of the TRX. It is std but some weird model with different suspension Brembo brakes etc.

PM me with details!

[James Deuce]

Both nice bikes at good prices, low mileages too.

Of these two, I'd buy the Yamaha.

In your price range too is the Kawasaki ZXR750, the Honda CBR750 and VFR750, not to mention the Yamaha FJ1200 and XJR1200 (if you're interested in something larger and naked).

Happy hunting!

CBR750 is a whale. As is the FJ.

ZXRs are too old in that price range, and the VFRs are nice but boring. XJR is a nice but plain bike like a (shhh) Bandit.

[sedge]

I've seen a couple of blades going in that price bracket recently... Nice bikes too... Pretty quick, fairly comfy, reliable... Worth a look.

Sedge.

[James Deuce]

Stop arseing about with those piles of pooh and buy a Moto Guzzi! It will make a man of you! Well ok... Less ghey any way! ;)

Paul N

(you wouldn't hit a man with glasses would you?)

I told you I don't like Larios! (That's about all I could afford with my money - even a Mk2 is getting out of reach)

[jrandom]

XJR is a nice but plain bike like a (shhh) Bandit.

See, nice but plain is PRECISELY what I, for instance, am after.

Wouldn't have a Bindit 6, though, I don't think. Have to be a 12.

Or an XJR.

Because I'm boring.

[mangell6]

I told you I don't like Larios! (That's about all I could afford with my money - even a Mk2 is getting out of reach)

The 500s could be affordable. :killingme

[Hitcher]

See, nice but plain is PRECISELY what I, for instance, am after.

Wouldn't have a Bindit 6, though, I don't think. Have to be a 12.

Or an XJR.

Because I'm boring.
Go for a Zrex. You won't regret a minute of it.

[jrandom]

Go for a Zrex. You won't regret a minute of it.

I'll get one if I can find one, because I *would* prefer it, but I just have this feeling they'll be out of my price range.

A colleague has a nice XJR1300 he brought over from the UK that he'll be happy to sell to me next year for around 8K, and I'll be having my eye out for one of those diverted-from-Kazakhstan B12's going from the Suzuki dealers right now once they start hitting TradeMe.

What do you reckon could I get a Zed Wrecks for, then?

[Hitcher]

What do you reckon could I get a Zed Wrecks for, then?
I thought you were getting mine for nothing when I died? (Hopefully you can't wait that long...)

[Posh Tourer :P]

Jim2 - if you are gonna be a sesquipedalian, why is your avatar a duopedalian?

[riffer]

Jim2 - if you are gonna be a sesquipedalian, why is your avatar a duopedalian?
Nice try PT - but you've missed the meaning of the word there. It's got nothing to do with the avatar.

[Ghost Lemur]

If you can hang out a couple of months (and the withdrawls aren't too bad) the wait till after "summer", prices come down as does demand, so good deals are to be had.

On Trade Me alone cbr250rr/zxr250 that were selling for about the $3k mark over winter are getting over $4k atm (even in this weather, go figure). So bikes that are going for about $8-~10k could well be within you price range if you hold out.

Of course if you sold a kidney and had an extra 1k to play with you could get spuds baby which is already at winter prices.

[Posh Tourer :P]

Nice try PT - but you've missed the meaning of the word there. It's got nothing to do with the avatar.

Early 17th century. From Latin sesquipedalis “measuring one and one-half feet,” from the stem ped- “foot.”

I was looking for a 7-footed duck picture, but I suppose I'll settle for 1.5 feet....
I'll buy a beer if you can find a good picture of either...

and further :offtopic:, what does the sesqui- part deal with, given the collection of words here (http://www.kokogiak.com/logolepsy/ow_s.html#sesquialteral) ? It seems to be 1.5, but where's the 1.5 in the latter few???

[James Deuce]

Early 17th century. From Latin sesquipedalis “measuring one and one-half feet,” from the stem ped- “foot.”

I was looking for a 7-footed duck picture, but I suppose I'll settle for 1.5 feet....
I'll buy a beer if you can find a good picture of either...

It isn't actually:

sesquipedalian \ses-kwi-pi-DAYL-yun\, adjective:
1. Given to the overuse of long words; "sesquipedalian orators"
2. (Of words) long and ponderous; having many syllables; as, "sesquipedalian technical terms"
--sesquipedalian, noun:
A very long word (a foot and a half long)

The verses of Stephen Hawes are as full of barbarous sesquipedalian Latinisms, as the prose of the Rambler.
--Robert Southey

A set of sesquipedalian exclamations.
--W. Roberts


Nice to hear from you btw - how's it all going?

[James Deuce]

If you can hang out a couple of months (and the withdrawls aren't too bad) the wait till after "summer", prices come down as does demand, so good deals are to be had.

On Trade Me alone cbr250rr/zxr250 that were selling for about the $3k mark over winter are getting over $4k atm (even in this weather, go figure). So bikes that are going for about $8-~10k could well be within you price range if you hold out.

Of course if you sold a kidney and had an extra 1k to play with you could get spuds baby which is already at winter prices.

Yeah I know - I'm going to get the ol' CBR600 rotting in the gargre going in the next couple of weeks. I'm going to re-register it and chuck it on trademe to try and bolster the finances.

[riffer]

It isn't actually:

sesquipedalian \ses-kwi-pi-DAYL-yun\, adjective:
1. Given to the overuse of long words; "sesquipedalian orators"
2. (Of words) long and ponderous; having many syllables; as, "sesquipedalian technical terms"
--sesquipedalian, noun:
A very long word (a foot and a half long)

The verses of Stephen Hawes are as full of barbarous sesquipedalian Latinisms, as the prose of the Rambler.
--Robert Southey

A set of sesquipedalian exclamations.
--W. Roberts


Nice to hear from you btw - how's it all going?
Actually, you're both right.

This is of course, due to that interesting little habit of English to borrow words from others languages and imply their own perverted meaning to it:

from Dictionary.com:

Sesquipedalian comes from Latin sesquipedalis, a foot and a half long, hence inordinately (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=inordinately) long, from sesqui, one half more, half as much again + pes, ped-, a foot.

[James Deuce]

Actually, you're both right.

This is of course, due to that interesting little habit of English to borrow words from others languages and imply their own perverted meaning to it:

from Dictionary.com:

Sesquipedalian comes from Latin sesquipedalis, a foot and a half long, hence inordinately (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=inordinately) long, from sesqui, one half more, half as much again + pes, ped-, a foot.

No we're not. PT has the root correct. I have the modern usage correct - ahhhh feck it, I'm sick of conflict. I'm changing it.

[Posh Tourer :P]

It isn't actually:

sesquipedalian \ses-kwi-pi-DAYL-yun\, adjective:
1. Given to the overuse of long words; "sesquipedalian orators"
2. (Of words) long and ponderous; having many syllables; as, "sesquipedalian technical terms"
--sesquipedalian, noun:
A very long word (a foot and a half long)

The verses of Stephen Hawes are as full of barbarous sesquipedalian Latinisms, as the prose of the Rambler.
--Robert Southey

A set of sesquipedalian exclamations.
--W. Roberts


Nice to hear from you btw - how's it all going?


(I got all that definition - what I gave was the origin - see edited post)

Not bad actually thanks, it's a bit of a shock being back in Auckland after living with only 1 other person on an island for most of a month (apart from 2 trips into Fitzroy (shop + wharf, and NOTHING else, literally..)) I was getting to enjoy being out in a very low stress, easy-paced environment....The only downside was the island politics - there's some real characters out there on the barrier....

Sorry to hear 'bout the TRX - diesel is pretty slippery stuff - apparently a good insect repellant though...(tip from the ferry crew - if you are on a boat, sleep close to the engine...)

[riffer]

No we're not. PT has the root correct. I have the modern usage correct - ahhhh feck it, I'm sick of conflict. I'm changing it.
Feckless - that's too easy...

How about insouciant, or irreflective, or even inefficacious? ;)

[Posh Tourer :P]

No we're not. PT has the root correct. I have the modern usage correct - ahhhh feck it, I'm sick of conflict. I'm changing it.

I was perverting the usage (initially unintentionally). I'd still like to see a 1.5-footed duck though....

Anyone see the irony here?

Technically, C6 was right in that we were both correct, as you say yourself, but correct with different aspects (or right about different things, which is pretty pointless really....)

[riffer]

I was perverting the usage (initially unintentionally). I'd still like to see a 1.5-footed duck though....
Actually, I used to feed a pigeon that had half a foot missing years ago when I used to lunch in Te Aro park...


Technically, C6 was right in that we were both correct, as you say yourself, but correct with different aspects (or right about different things, which is pretty pointless really....)
Nah, I was just being a wanker, cause it's late and I'm bored...:sly:

[Posh Tourer :P]

ah yeah there are plenty of bodily challenged pigeons round the uni quad.....

Makes you wonder.....

[Posh Tourer :P]

Feckless - that's too easy...

How about insouciant, or irreflective, or even inefficacious? ;)


temerarious frondeur??

or schismatist even?

Or for a bit of lightness, blithe spark plug?

[Biff]

Both nice bikes at good prices, low mileages too.

Of these two, I'd buy the Yamaha.

In your price range too is the XJR1200 (if you're interested in something larger and naked).

Happy hunting!


I wouldn't go near the XJR1200 (although it's a sexy looking machine). The reviews I've read have been terrible and a guy in work with me has just bought a spanking new one and thoroughly regrets it. Here's some of the words and phrases he used this morning when I asked him what he thought of it:

Boring
Over priced
Wobbles at speed
Crap Ohlms suspension (non adjustable-Yam own Ohlms)
Far too heavy
Looks nice though

[750Y]

Brand new Bandit Six for $8995?

Should be able to find a grouse used one for your price range.

the trashman will find you a sweet deal on something good, no doubt.

[James Deuce]

the trashman will find you a sweet deal on something good, no doubt.
I know that he would. I don't want to spend money on any Suzuki available in my price range. Bandit 600s in particular don't inspire me to spend money on them.

[Cajun]

I know that he would. I don't want to spend money on any Suzuki available in my price range. Bandit 600s in particular don't inspire me to spend money on them.
I must say pretty much everyone in our family likes riding out 600 bandit, father in law with his $25,000 bmw k1200rs, my wife(vtr1000f), her sister(vn1500), one reason i brought a 600, was the amount of fun that 600 is, we have the last old of the older style(half fairing). We brought it brand new, its now up to 23,000kms in about 3 years, only ever had one problem(speedo cable broke) after owning it one year. Always go well, been thrashed around taupo race track, been used as packhorse, the works.

Good bike for the money, and tons of parts avaiable, to do whatever you want to it

[FROSTY]

Have a peruse of trade me --theres some darn lil sweeties available.
The other thing is Jim in the new year a lot of guys are strapped for cash --its a good time to geat a real good deal.

[James Deuce]

I must say pretty much everyone in our family likes riding out 600 bandit, father in law with his $25,000 bmw k1200rs, my wife(vtr1000f), her sister(vn1500), one reason i brought a 600, was the amount of fun that 600 is, we have the last old of the older style(half fairing). We brought it brand new, its now up to 23,000kms in about 3 years, only ever had one problem(speedo cable broke) after owning it one year. Always go well, been thrashed around taupo race track, been used as packhorse, the works.

Good bike for the money, and tons of parts avaiable, to do whatever you want to it
Look, I'll be completely honest - Mangell would just LAUGH at me if I bought a Bandit 600.

Alright, alright, I'll ring Jimmy now and see what he can do (Suzuki heap o' parts bin crap, mutter, mutter)

[James Deuce]

Have a peruse of trade me --theres some darn lil sweeties available.
The other thing is Jim in the new year a lot of guys are strapped for cash --its a good time to geat a real good deal.
I've been perusing Trademe closely and the only thing on there at the mo that is tempting is a 15,000km '93 VFR750.

BUT - the Insurance company haven't coughed up the cash yet.

Grrr

[munter]

Yeah I know - I'm going to get the ol' CBR600 rotting in the gargre going in the next couple of weeks. I'm going to re-register it and chuck it on trademe to try and bolster the finances.
Hey Jim2 - what are the specs on the CBR600?

[James Deuce]

Hey Jim2 - what are the specs on the CBR600?
It is an '87 with 112,000kms on the clock. No fairing lowers, but everything works. It has a neptune on it and sounds very nice.

[Cajun]

Look, I'll be completely honest - Mangell would just LAUGH at me if I bought a Bandit 600.

Alright, alright, I'll ring Jimmy now and see what he can do (Suzuki heap o' parts bin crap, mutter, mutter)
Yeah the bandit is a parts bike, but okay, we have put a standard kerker slip on it, and its loud as hell, even the father in law who is half deaf thinks its loud, his last bike which was a vn1500, with slashcut pipes, with no baffles, he siad it was already, so yeah its loud. But fun. When we dynoed our one i think it was putting out something like 85hp or something can't remmeber off top of head

[Cajun]

It is an '87 with 112,000kms on the clock. No fairing lowers, but everything works. It has a neptune on it and sounds very nice.
How much you wanting for it, i am looking for something hack, he and wife can learn to do a few :sneaky2::whistle: things on, before we try on our own bikes

[Blakamin]

Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc


you know you want to :bleh:

[James Deuce]

Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc Duc


you know you want to :bleh:
I
Can't
Afford
One.

Not even a 400SS

[Blakamin]

I
Can't
Afford
One.

Not even a 400SS
you could get a Paso!... (i know... the Ugly Duc)

[James Deuce]

you could get a Paso!... (i know... the Ugly Duc)
I like the Paso 906/7ie a lot, but not many of them come up, and I know what they break, and how they break it. I can;t afford to keep one running properly.

[Blakamin]

I like the Paso 906/7ie a lot, but not many of them come up, and I know what they break, and how they break it. I can;t afford to keep one running properly.
they arent that expensive to look after!

900ss (http://www.bikepoint.co.nz/DesktopDefault.aspx?UsedBikeID=593112&TabID=3553&Alias=bikepointnz)
Paso at motomart (http://www.bikepoint.co.nz/DesktopDefault.aspx?UsedBikeID=423680&TabID=3553&Alias=bikepointnz) that has been there for months!

[James Deuce]

they arent that expensive to look after!

900ss (http://www.bikepoint.co.nz/DesktopDefault.aspx?UsedBikeID=593112&TabID=3553&Alias=bikepointnz)
Paso at motomart (http://www.bikepoint.co.nz/DesktopDefault.aspx?UsedBikeID=423680&TabID=3553&Alias=bikepointnz) that has been there for months!Yes they are - 10000km between cam belts is expensive. Plus the fuel tank rubs on the front frame member and ruptures requiring either repeated repairs or modification to the front mounting point, the carbed versions spit back if they are set up exactly right, and fairing panels detach due to cracked mounting holes. Plus, they are old. The 750 Paso is the ugly sister of the family, and the 900SS is nice but waaaay too many Ks.

I keep saying that my budget is fixed at $6.5k to $7.5k. If I can get the CBR going reasonable cheaply I might be able to stretch the budget to $8.5k if I can sell it. I can't justify spending any more as I have a mortgage, I have to by a "new" car this year, and I have to start house extensions. It's all very well to suggest stretching it a bit, but I just can't. I'm not willing to spend my entire budget on a Ducati over a decade old, especially when that is within the period that Ducati's quality was at best questionable. I want to have a fun reliable toy that I can go on my once a month ride without having to wonder what is going to break next. This isn't a slur on Ducati at all, but you have to remember (as F5Dave said) that prior to TPG's investment, Ducati was not in a good financial or engineering state.

[F5 Dave]

I don't remember saying that, but I will now for the sake of um, something.

[James Deuce]

I don't remember saying that, but I will now for the sake of um, something.
In a different thread. :)