Project ZZR

[John]

Well, since my incident, I have decided that I will give the ZZR a facelift - I cant source new fairings, and I dont feel like a streetfighter yet, So I'm getting the plastic all weilded up again..

Sand it all down myself prep it, and send it to a paint shop and get some obscure color that no one has seen before.
(ideas?)

Then move to a full engine overhaul (maybe increase the bore), and then rebalance it etc (most prob pro done, I have no tools :( )
(Ideas experiences?)

then get a new muffler system fitted, at the moment its dual, but I was thinking of a new thruster system, or similar, or just some temp slip ons.
( I need suggestions on what to do here )

Why am I doing it? simply to be a loser and different.. :Pokey:

I will follow it everywhere with my camera as it evolves into a refurbished beast... then take it to koie and bust it up so I can do it all again :P

so any help/tips/suggestions/ideas you feel like you want to share would mean alot..

cheers. :yes:

[Bonez]

Primer pink as a colour.

[avgas]

this is gonna cost u a lotta cash mate.
respray can be anywhere as high as a couple of grand.
but the zzr is a cool bike.
but u can buy a new GSX for $6K, plus an exhaust with rejetted carbs for less then $1500.
Something to think about

[John]

I figure the cost will be high, shit happens.. : /

pink is fessable, I like it. Tasteful?

[FzerozeroT]

I know you won't want to listen cause i didn't either, but after spending about $2000 modifying a $6000 bike that is now worth $2500 you really should save your coin for a bigger/newer bike. even if you get nice paint and a balanced engine you still have high km's frame, suspension, gearbox, brakes etc.
IMHO best value would be just paint the fairings yourself, buy some super sticky tyres and get the suspension set properly.

[John]

yea, I do know what your saying but aparently I can get it all done relativly cheaply (mate is a panel beater willing to paint) and It is relativly low K's 11k it was in storage for most of its life, thus I just need the plastic reweilded and then the minor repairs, (handle bar straighten etc, which is already done, its rideable for the time being, but since I have a good 2 years or so on it, I would like it in a tidier state, I will get photos tommorow to show the state shes in)

I hear what your saying, I like the tires on it at the moment (arrowmax front / rear) they are sticky sticky.

Thanks for all advice I always take it on board, thanks.

[erik]

so any help/tips/suggestions/ideas you feel like you want to share would mean alot..

cheers. :yes:

Wait till you calm down a bit after your crash before you start spending too much money on it.
IMHO bikes aren't supposed to be perfect; they get dirty, scratched, damaged, and worn out as you use them.
Especially in the case of new riders like you and I, since we are more likely to have accidents as we learn to ride, I think it is best to just make sure the bike is mechanically sound and roadworthy and keep riding. Don't worry too much about whether the paint is scratched.
Save your money for a bigger bike when you get your full licence, like others have suggested.

[Hitcher]

Pink? On a motorbike? In the words of John McEnroe III: "You can't be serious?"

[John]

pink, its perfect !!

But yes - I was getting the bike painted previous to the incident, I knew that it will always become scratched etc, But I always thought that the ZZR would look nice in a racing red or similar. I will probably paint it.. and leave it at that, but since my bike is all I have in life, better enjoy it eh?

Thanks for all the great advice !!

[FzerozeroT]

you just made it sound realistic though, only 11k on the clock means it is pretty mint, too mint to touch the engine yet even, waste of money till probably 50k or so. Go the paint (and a set of crash bungs)!

[Teflon]

pink, its perfect !!

But yes - I was getting the bike painted previous to the incident, I knew that it will always become scratched etc, But I always thought that the ZZR would look nice in a racing red or similar. I will probably paint it.. and leave it at that, but since my bike is all I have in life, better enjoy it eh?

Thanks for all the great advice !!

Yeah pinks such a prety colour, maybe pink with purple poka dots?, look prety trick.

Also try and track down some pink 1 piece leathers with a purple helmet, fuck that would be cool.

[John]

Yeah pinks such a prety colour, maybe pink with purple poka dots?, look prety trick.

Also try and track down some pink 1 piece leathers with a purple helmet, fuck that would be cool.
sarcasm kills babies/various small animals, please think of the babies/small animals..

[Teflon]

sarcasm kills babies/various small animals, please think of the babies/small animals..

Ok dude, but i think this up there with people who want Leds, just isn't right.

[John]

just so its clear..

I'm NOT painting my bike pink, but the purple poka dots, now thats an option ;)

I always thought LED's made the bikes faster... mainly when they flash... and they are blue, and there is a cluster of 10+ ;)

'Its like nos for your lights!'

I will sleep now.. sorry dude.. Not trying to take the shit out of you.

[Hitcher]

pink, its perfect !!
Next you'll be rationalising this by claiming that there are "shades" of pink...

[Ghost Lemur]

Doing engine mods on it is really a waste of time and money. Better off putting the money towards your 400/600 full licence upgrade.

As for the repairing the fairing yeah go hard. Maybe even do the painting yourself (hire compressor) to save even more. Just remember when it comes to painting, put in lots of effort, be paitent and take your time.

Heaps of people hear are in the know about panel work/painting (not me), so tap their wisdom and save some dollars. Otherwise you're throwing money away as you won't recoup it when it comes time to sell.

[SPman]

just so its clear..

I'm NOT painting my bike pink, .......
Piker!!.....

[Bonez]

Pink? On a motorbike? In the words of John McEnroe III: "You can't be serious?"And I thought I was "old school" get with the program fella.

[Bonez]

pink, its perfect !!
Thanks for all the great advice !!
You're welcome. Rumour has it chicks loooove pink so good luck. ;)

[Cajun]

John - i had a zzr for a good length of time, not much you can do to the engine to get more power, just make sure you service ir regularly(every 5000kms, chain oil and filter), mine first started its life as a red with pink stickers, later in its life i turned in to high gloss black, with crome stickers.

You can seleve the exhusts with just stanless steel i did that with mine.

A well riden zzr can put alot of things to shame, i did 50's around taupo on my zzr, which arn't to shabby for a parrel twin 250cc, which is a sports tourer not a sports bike. My wife when she road it, blew many people away, best one was she was two up(a friend of hers on back(another girl) went to a motorcycle rally with her father, she was blowning away guys on all these souped up harleys and buell's, They at first though she was on a 600, but when they were told it was only a 250, they did not look very happy, even while two up by girls. I had my old zzr250 off the speedo, and i was leaving a vtri prelude(jap import) behind.

So you don't need more power, you just need to learn it ride it better, personally i put a 130 rear on it than the standard 140, made it turn in a lot quicker, if you are gonna start pushing the bike alot, i would tell you take the center stand off, yes its handy, but i know of someone who got caught with center stand on there bike.

Enjoy

[カワサキキド]

Bananaman has some good advice for you John,

If you want some power for the straights, I would spend my money on a Nitrous system, kits start from about $1000, or you could make your own for a lot cheaper.You can unbolt when It comes time to sell, and bolt them on to your next bike. The only other modifications with this would be a free flow exhaust and a mabey colder plugs(not neccesary thou).

Stay away from the NOS brand or its copies, they don't jet at solinoids so the can't provide a steady nitrous/fuel flow.Plus numerous other design flaws. The only brand I can recall of the top of my head is company based in England called 'Highpower'. There are German and Japanese brands out there too.

[Artifice]

Metallic pink with fluffy white icing on top?
You know kawas are sposed to be green...

[Cajun]

Bananaman has some good advice for you John,

If you want some power for the straights, I would spend my money on a Nitrous system, kits start from about $1000, or you could make your own for a lot cheaper.You can unbolt when It comes time to sell, and bolt them on to your next bike. The only other modifications with this would be a free flow exhaust and a mabey colder plugs(not neccesary thou).

Stay away from the NOS brand or its copies, they don't jet at solinoids so the can't provide a steady nitrous/fuel flow.Plus numerous other design flaws. The only brand I can recall of the top of my head is company based in England called 'Highpower'. There are German and Japanese brands out there too.
Don't both nos's, learn to ride the wheels off first, just look at TS he can ride his 150 and kick many 600 even people on 1000cc bikes.

Bikes are boring in a straight line, you buy them for twistys so nos's arn't gonna help ya much

[John]

wow thanks for all the replies.

Well, I have decided thus:
Just wrap the current pipes in bigger metal - goto the engineers or whatever?...

Paint it myself (hehe) thanks lumer - still dont know what color kawa green!? *shudder*

Currently I'm more than happy with its preformance, Infact more than happy.
Its being over 180 (well off the speedo anyway) oh yes, I'm light 60kg or so and there was a nice tailwind to but that was fun!

Ah, I love the handling of the bike myself - I took a clubsport out and a civic, in some twisties, near kamo north - I think they were surprised espically with the L plates on.. lol

But I went and picked up the bike today, it still needs some work but I wanted it for over christmas so I could go see family etc, and it isnt really bad, not as pretty as it once was but with a new coat of paint no one will be the wiser.

It was pouring down today when I picked it up - and I noticed my tires werent as good as I thought... (140 on the back 110 on front I think :S) but I was *floating* all over the place, the tires were not cleaning the water away from the contact area of the tire hence drifting/panning.. So I was wondering what the bike would be happier on, its currently running arrowmax front and rear.

Thanks for all the help people.

a special thanks to erik for getting me the manual thanks mate.

[カワサキキド]

Get some Dunlop GPR70's and make sure the pressures are set up right.
You will be looking at just under $500 for the pair but money well spent.
And mabey change the fork oil and seals,they are almost 15 years old.
Change the brake fluid too, and mabey replace the pads.

[Cajun]

wow thanks for all the replies.

Well, I have decided thus:
Just wrap the current pipes in bigger metal - goto the engineers or whatever?...

Paint it myself (hehe) thanks lumer - still dont know what color kawa green!? *shudder*

Currently I'm more than happy with its preformance, Infact more than happy.
Its being over 180 (well off the speedo anyway) oh yes, I'm light 60kg or so and there was a nice tailwind to but that was fun!

Ah, I love the handling of the bike myself - I took a clubsport out and a civic, in some twisties, near kamo north - I think they were surprised espically with the L plates on.. lol

But I went and picked up the bike today, it still needs some work but I wanted it for over christmas so I could go see family etc, and it isnt really bad, not as pretty as it once was but with a new coat of paint no one will be the wiser.

It was pouring down today when I picked it up - and I noticed my tires werent as good as I thought... (140 on the back 110 on front I think :S) but I was *floating* all over the place, the tires were not cleaning the water away from the contact area of the tire hence drifting/panning.. So I was wondering what the bike would be happier on, its currently running arrowmax front and rear.

Thanks for all the help people.

a special thanks to erik for getting me the manual thanks mate.
I loved the michlins on mine, i also liked the bridgestones i had it on one stage, I have riden in on roads close to flood with no problems on this bike


John i am same weight as you, so yeah go hard

[chog]

ya i did this fx an spent $800 on it :2thumbsup ha ha it can be done

[Bonez]

John its probably over tyred. Try a size smaller as suggested. My mates Patah 500 handles a lot better when he did this. IE- try to get it as close to the front tyre size. Also even though tyre sizes are the same the profiles vary. Also one with a more grooves could be more suitable to disperse the water. Yip smaller bikes are fun as you've found out. Enjoy your m/c John. :yeah: