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Biff
23rd December 2004, 09:00
Courtesy of Wolfie - www.superblackbird.co.uk

I went to a party, Mum, I remembered what you said.
You told me not to drink, Mum, so I drank soda instead.
I really felt proud inside, Mum, the way you said I would.
I didn't drink and drive, Mum, even though the others said I should.
I know the right thing, Mum, I know you are always right.
Now the party is finally ending, Mum, as everyone is driving out of sight.
As I got into my car, Mum, I knew I'd get home in one piece.
Because of the way you raised me, so responsible and sweet.
I started to drive away, Mum, but as I pulled out into the road,
the other car didn't see me, Mum, and hit me like a load.
As I lay there on the pavement, Mum, I hear the policeman say,
the other guy is drunk, Mum, and now I'm the one who will pay.
I'm lying here dying, Mum, I wish you'd get here soon.
How could this happen to me, Mum? My life just burst like a balloon.
There is blood all around me, Mum, and most of it is mine.
I hear the medic say, Mum, I'll die in a short time.
I just wanted to tell you, Mum, I swear I didn't drink.
It was the others, Mum. The others didn't think.
He was probably at the same party as I.
The only difference is, he drank and I will die.
Why do people drink, Mum? It can ruin your whole life.
I'm feeling sharp pains now. Pains just like a knife.
The guy who hit me is walking, Mum, and I don't think it's fair.
I'm lying here dying and all he can do is stare.
Tell my brother not to cry, Mum. Tell Daddy to be brave.
And when I go to heaven, Mum, put "Daddy's Girl" on my grave.
Someone should have told him, Mum, not to drink and drive.
If only they had told him, Mum, I would still be alive.
My breath is getting shorter, Mum. I'm becoming very scared.
Please don't cry for me, Mum. When I needed you, you were always there.
I have one last question, Mum, before I say good bye.
I didn't drink and drive, so why am I the one to die?

Riff Raff
23rd December 2004, 09:06
This one always brings a tear to my eye when I read it. :weep: Sadly I see too much of this in my job. Take care out there everyone.

Biff
23rd December 2004, 09:16
This one always brings a tear to my eye when I read it. :weep: Sadly I see too much of this in my job. Take care out there everyone.

It gives me shivers down the spine everytime I read it.

What's your job Riff?

**R1**
23rd December 2004, 09:28
Dam that,s all bad. Y cant we hang drunk drivers? on the other side of the coin tho i guess they would start hanging speeders as that is now socially unacceptable. and i cant imagine there is that many on here who can say they have never sped ever.

Biff
23rd December 2004, 09:39
Dam that,s all bad. Y cant we hang drunk drivers? on the other side of the coin tho i guess they would start hanging speeders as that is now socially unacceptable. and i cant imagine there is that many on here who can say they have never sped ever.


I speed - but not when I'm pissed (tasteless joke, but hey it's xmas)

Storm
23rd December 2004, 10:16
Innit always the way- its the innocent that get the shitty end of the stick. Just reminds us to be watching for the holiday madness on the roads. may you all keep it rubber side down this holiday season

spudchucka
23rd December 2004, 10:42
I used to feel a little sorry for folks getting done for just over the limit. Not anymore because I've done a few tests to see how much booze you need to consume to get just over the limit. I'll give you a couple of examples.

At a sation piss up a mate and I chugged back about seven pints each in 1.5 hours. We waited 30 minutes and then went and blew into the intoxyliser. We both blew a reading of 320 - 340 micrograms. Not even over the limit.

Another station piss up, a pub crawl, (by bus) around a bunch of rural pubs and then back to the station for more booze and a feed of shark & tatties. It satrted at 1600 and at about 2230 the same mate and I went and blew in the intoxyliser. We had been drinking steadily for about 6 hours and were both by our own estimation pretty fucken pissed. What did we blow, I was 538 and he was 524. Both over the limit but not even close to the spectacular readings that we often see, (1100+).

One guy was so pissed recently he filled his pants in the EBA room! :puke:

The point is that to get over 400, a bloke of my size (99kg) at least, has to consume a lot of booze to break the limit. So I don't feel sorry for anyone anymore, if they are over 400 there is no way they should be driving!

Riff Raff
23rd December 2004, 11:28
What's your job Riff?
Big white taxi driver, blanket therapist, plaster master, electrocutionist (but only if your hearts stopped), etc

StoneChucker
23rd December 2004, 12:32
A similar analogy is if an infant falls out a 3 story window, at times they are practically unhurt. An adult doing the same would almost always be badly injured/dead. It's got something to do with the infants being totally relaxed. The drunk drivers are in their own world, limber, marinaded and relaxed as can be, while the mother on her way home to her family is not.

Factor into that, that life sucks, and it usually is unfair :(
:cry:

scumdog
23rd December 2004, 14:15
Just remember, it's ALWAYS going to happen to 'someone else' - until one day YOU are that 'someone else'

AND

The younger you are the more you think 'it won't happen to me' yeah right, there's a heap of people residing in cemeteries that thought that. :crybaby:

That's why 18 year olds sign up so readily when it's time to go to war - and we let them vote/drink etc???? :thud:

Ms Piggy
23rd December 2004, 14:55
Ok - sorry for being a little cynical but at the end of the day these sorts of poems & messgaes aren't getting through to the people that they're supposed to be reaching.

We can sit around saying "Jeez, this is bloody sad" etc, etc b/c it is! But, at the end of the day it's not gonna make any difference to the dumb f*cks that drink & drive, b/c they (quite possibly) think they're bullet proof anyway and as Spud pointed out, may not even be over the legal limt.

Although I'm not quite sure what the solution is either. :confused:

MacD
23rd December 2004, 14:57
At a station piss up a mate and I chugged back about seven pints each in 1.5 hours. We waited 30 minutes and then went and blew into the intoxyliser. We both blew a reading of 320 - 340 micrograms. Not even over the limit.


I'd check the intoxyliser equipment if I was you then! Unless you were drinking light beer you should have exceeded the blood alcohol limit by at least double given your stated weight of 99kg! :drinknsin

Try feeding those figures into any BA calculator (http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=calculator+blood+alcohol&btnG=Search&meta=)...

Hitcher
23rd December 2004, 15:18
Although I'm not quite sure what the solution is either.
There is no "solution" other than to be bloody careful on the roads at all times. Motoring is too entrenched to ban. Despite safer roads and safer cars, people will still die or get badly injured. The road toll will never be zero.

And as we approach the season of the "Christmas road toll", let's keep in mind the following:

People will die on the roads this Christmas.
The road toll for the past 12 months stands at 430 (down from 450 the previous year).
That is about 1.18 deaths a day.
This means a 12-day holiday period (from 5:00pm 24 December to 8:00am 5 January) should claim about 14 lives. One death either side is within the margin of error. A "toll" of 20 is within the bounds of "acceptable" statistical variations (year-on-year).
So people who get hysterical about the "holiday road toll" at this level should take a "calm" pill. Shit happens.

avgas
23rd December 2004, 16:09
why cant all vehicles have a setup that tests alcohol levels before they start. Some bikes dont start till the clutch is pulled in, and the stand is up. Somecars dont start untill the seatbelt is restrained and the car is out of gear.

bear
23rd December 2004, 16:58
What about newish ad where the guy leaves the pub, and all his mates/family etc. say don't drive and then he drives anyway, I think this somewhat reinforces the behaviour of drinking and driving. Also, in a way it's more subtle than previous campaigns and will the people who this is targeted at get the message?

Firefight
23rd December 2004, 17:00
Big white taxi driver, blanket therapist, plaster master, electrocutionist (but only if your hearts stopped), etc


What Riff is trying to say, in her modest way is that she is one of the true heros of the emergancy service world, she like Speedmedic are professional ambulance officers, "the good guys", there are a couple of other ambos(they hate that term) on KB, but those two are regulars.

They see shit, that you can't begin to imagine, and see it on a daily/nightly basis, never told you Sue or Glen, you guys (and the others ambos) rock.

Thank you for the job you do and do well.

Dave

onearmedbandit
23rd December 2004, 17:40
Hear hear!! Jobs I could never do; Fireman, Policeman, and Ambulance driver. Why? Obvious reasons, but I could not handle turning up to the aftermath of a car wreck, to find a 3yr old gasping its last breaths, people broken and smashed. My hat goes off to all you guys and gals, true heroes. (Before the flames start, yeah sure there are some bad eggs out there, I'm referring to those who work with honour)

I have a 5yr old daughter, I'd do anything for her, my angel. And with her in my life (although she doesn't live with) whenever I read or hear of a young child being hurt or killed, I can't help but think of the pain for those involved. The victim, their family and friends, and those that attend the scene, seeing them at their worst. Kudos to you all!

NC
23rd December 2004, 17:54
Ah that poem got me a A in english, when I was doing school C...It made the teacher and half the class cry..
I refuse to read it...

Al
23rd December 2004, 19:20
Yeah Dave (Firefight), all respect to ambulance officers, policemen/Traffic officers (yes....!!) and also to your profession. Firemen attend ALL major incidents and do whatever is required of them.
:first:

Al

pete376403
23rd December 2004, 20:44
why cant all vehicles have a setup that tests alcohol levels before they start. Some bikes dont start till the clutch is pulled in, and the stand is up. Somecars dont start untill the seatbelt is restrained and the car is out of gear.

I believe it was tried - the car had an air sensor which the driver breathed into. Over the limit prevented the car from starting. But safety never sells and it was not deemed "marketable". I also read of another scheme where a certain sequence of buttons had to be pressed in a certain time - same result.
Now maybe if the car had one of those things like Predator had on his arm, and if the button sequence was wrong, or too slow... the whole car blows up. Yeah!

spudchucka
24th December 2004, 12:35
What Riff is trying to say, in her modest way is that she is one of the true heros of the emergancy service world, she like Speedmedic are professional ambulance officers, "the good guys", there are a couple of other ambos(they hate that term) on KB, but those two are regulars.

They see shit, that you can't begin to imagine, and see it on a daily/nightly basis, never told you Sue or Glen, you guys (and the others ambos) rock.

Thank you for the job you do and do well.

Dave
Couldn't agree more!

spudchucka
24th December 2004, 12:41
I'd check the intoxyliser equipment if I was you then! Unless you were drinking light beer you should have exceeded the blood alcohol limit by at least double given your stated weight of 99kg! :drinknsin

Try feeding those figures into any BA calculator (http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=calculator+blood+alcohol&btnG=Search&meta=)...
Sorry but I just won't give any credance to an online BA calculator. At best they are a guide, nothing more. Body mass, metabolism, age, gender, the activities a person has engaged in prior to drinking etc etc all have an effect. I've seen people swear they have only had 2 beers who blow 600 and others that admit to drinking all day blow under 400. It can be very subjective and the only way to be sure you are under is to not drink at all if you intend to drive.

Indiana_Jones
24th December 2004, 12:52
Is that from chicken soup for the soul or something? I've read a few in the same style like it from them. Opens your eyes abit I must say, take care out there :)

-Indy

Riff Raff
24th December 2004, 13:04
Thank you for the job you do and do well.

Dave
:o Thanks mate. :hug:

Krayy
24th December 2004, 13:07
I believe it was tried - the car had an air sensor which the driver breathed into. Over the limit prevented the car from starting. But safety never sells and it was not deemed "marketable". I also read of another scheme where a certain sequence of buttons had to be pressed in a certain time - same result.
...

You'd think that the "powers that be" would make this type of system mandatory for people convicted of DUI for a few years after the fact.

scumdog
24th December 2004, 13:16
Hear hear!! Jobs I could never do; Fireman, Policeman, and Ambulance driver. Why? Obvious reasons, but I could not handle turning up to the aftermath of a car wreck, to find a 3yr old gasping its last breaths, people broken and smashed. My hat goes off to all you guys and gals, true heroes. (Before the flames start, yeah sure there are some bad eggs out there, I'm referring to those who work with honour)

I have a 5yr old daughter, I'd do anything for her, my angel. And with her in my life (although she doesn't live with) whenever I read or hear of a young child being hurt or killed, I can't help but think of the pain for those involved. The victim, their family and friends, and those that attend the scene, seeing them at their worst. Kudos to you all!

I assume I am included in the group you are praising, if so thank you, not often I get a positive comment about my chosen profession. :cool2:

Ghost Lemur
24th December 2004, 13:34
I assume I am included in the group you are praising, if so thank you, not often I get a positive comment about my chosen profession. :cool2:

Well you should. Particularly at this time of the year. The number of you who will be scarificing spending time with love one's for the rest of us is commendable.

Unlike Vifferman, I couldn't do you job for a different reason. I'd end up feeling nothing, being totally cynical and then probably go off the deepend one day into either a bottle or a bullet.

My hat goes off to you all for doing your job with such professionalism, whilst still being able to retain your humanity. Still think it must be an incredibly fine line to walk between feeling to much (and therefore not being able to do the job) and feeling too little (and therefore not being able to have a life - who can have a relationship if one's become completely emotionally detached from life).

May you all have a safe one.

Blakamin
24th December 2004, 14:32
They see shit, that you can't begin to imagine, and see it on a daily/nightly basis, never told you Sue or Glen, you guys (and the others ambos) rock.

Thank you for the job you do and do well.

Dave
agree 1billion %... :first:

scumdog
25th December 2004, 01:14
Well you should. Particularly at this time of the year. The number of you who will be scarificing spending time with love one's for the rest of us is commendable.

Unlike Vifferman, I couldn't do you job for a different reason. I'd end up feeling nothing, being totally cynical and then probably go off the deepend one day into either a bottle or a bullet.

May you all have a safe one.

Mostly I choose the bottle, for unless the bullet is aimed at somebody else you can't repeat the performance ( and it's a bit touch and go with some of the stuff I have drunk as it is!!!) :thud:

moko
25th December 2004, 08:32
From what I read on here this wont be popular but what`s needed are more traffic Cops.I couldn`t believe how many I saw while in N.Z.,seriously saw more on my first ride from Auckland to Hamilton than I see in a few weeks over here.Sounds good?Well it isn`t believe me,every dickhead on the road knows that if they keep off of the main roads there`s very little chance of seeing,or being seen by,a Traffic Cop.The result is diabolical driving standards,about every third car on the road has some kind of defective lighting,indication and observation seem to have become optional to many and in an average week I have to take evasive action at least twice,often more.Regular police do pull people doing really stupid stuff but traffic is low priority to them and they`ll drive past cars parked on pavements or some dick with his fog-lamps on permanently(illegal and for some reason seen as cool by boy-racers)more often than not.Result is that you can drive illegally or in a dangerous vehicle quite easily as long as you dont do anything outrageous to draw attention to yourself,trust me anarchy on the roads is no fun.If you`d had to tell a few parents that sonny boy wasn`t coming home anymore because he`s ridden his bike off the road then you`d have a snotty attitude towards speeders as well.

Sycophant
28th December 2004, 11:04
From what I read on here this wont be popular but what`s needed are more traffic Cops.I couldn`t believe how many I saw while in N.Z.,seriously saw more on my first ride from Auckland to Hamilton than I see in a few weeks over here.Sounds good?Well it isn`t believe me,every dickhead on the road knows that if they keep off of the main roads there`s very little chance of seeing,or being seen by,a Traffic Cop.The result is diabolical driving standards,about every third car on the road has some kind of defective lighting,indication and observation seem to have become optional to many and in an average week I have to take evasive action at least twice,often more.Regular police do pull people doing really stupid stuff but traffic is low priority to them and they`ll drive past cars parked on pavements or some dick with his fog-lamps on permanently(illegal and for some reason seen as cool by boy-racers)more often than not.Result is that you can drive illegally or in a dangerous vehicle quite easily as long as you dont do anything outrageous to draw attention to yourself,trust me anarchy on the roads is no fun.If you`d had to tell a few parents that sonny boy wasn`t coming home anymore because he`s ridden his bike off the road then you`d have a snotty attitude towards speeders as well.

I certainly wish there were more cops around who were available to catch followed drunk drivers and the like.

After nearly being hit by a guy doing a sudden u-turn to avoid a breath test stop (he missed hitting me by centimetres, I felt the car pass me) I have absolutely no tolerance at all for drunk drivers (not that I ever did).

I have *555'd people a few times when their driving has lead me to believe they were pissed, but because I can't stay on the phone and follow on a bike, they generally aren't able to get anyone to catch them.