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henry
16th May 2008, 12:22
It was fun while it lasted...

http://tinyurl.com/4jcvkz

Ivan
16th May 2008, 12:28
They better not be 600's like CBR600s as that is not GP racing

I mean Yeah V twin 600CC's etc like currently Vtwin 250's but go say 600CC Vtwins and allow them out there but they must have to be a Grand Prix Race bike or else thats fucken rediculous.

onearmedbandit
16th May 2008, 12:36
It does say most likely to be prototype. (oooh, just noticed it was MCN...)

quallman1234
16th May 2008, 12:56
125 - 600 - 800.

A wee jump isn't it? and then almost no range.

Need some more devistry in moto gp than that. I say bring on the 400 - 500. (If has to be a 4 stroke! pfft)

k14
17th May 2008, 17:32
This has been slated for quite a while. From what I heard when I was at the MotoGP at philip island last year. The proposal will be production 600 engines in prototype frames. Making it easier for other manufacturers to come into the scene and make something competitive. I think there will be some engine mods allowed but nothing too drastic.

Pretty stupid imo, I'd be surprised if it made competition more competitive. Look at what going to 800's has done to motogp, nearly as boring as F1 now. Leave it be!

lostinflyz
17th May 2008, 17:56
why would u bother putting a prod. motor in a prototype frame. thats like making a carbon fibre tail and then putting it on a lead sub frame. dumb as.

its supposed to be GP racing for a reason. sounds like dorna are getting jealous of superbikes

idleidolidyll
17th May 2008, 18:21
ahh, the same mentality that sees the F3 class pussies in NZ throw out motards because they get their arses kicked on street and tight tracks

James Deuce
17th May 2008, 18:30
Friggin diesels. Drop the whole thing and just change it to 600 and 1000 Superstock rules. Ditch Superbikes and Supersport. Gather all the Motards up and dump them in the mid-Atlantic trench.

DEATH_INC.
17th May 2008, 19:40
125 - 600 - 800.

A wee jump isn't it? and then almost no range.

Need some more devistry in moto gp than that. I say bring on the 400 - 500. (If has to be a 4 stroke! pfft)

I'm with you, 600 is too big, let's see 400-500 four strokes and ditch the 125's for 250 four strokes ( or let 'em run together) then hopefully we'll see some development in smaller roadbikes again.....

CM2005
18th May 2008, 18:48
lol, bring out special frames for ZXR400 motors, and half of our F3 grid would become MotoGP contenders... tossers ruining all that is pure with the GP world..

CM2005
18th May 2008, 18:50
another thought, they should make it 400-500 otherwise they could just used modded supersports like WCM did with a modded R1 motor for motoGP in 2003. make 5 cyl 500's...

xwhatsit
18th May 2008, 21:18
make 5 cyl 500's...
Now that sounds familiar.

Who likes five megaphones and spoked rims? Honda -- bring 'em out of mothballs, your time has come :cool:

quallman1234
18th May 2008, 21:54
If they bring 600's out, they are only going to be off the 800's lap times by about 2 -3 seconds and using the same lines. At least with the 250's there some variety in the lines etc and good racing.

Ivan
18th May 2008, 22:29
Honestly 250 singles would be to slow in 125's depends what engines they use custom GP engines or use a MotoX 250F
Id say 450's in 125's but if I had a say itd be keep 125's

And say 500 Vtwins for 250's

k14
19th May 2008, 10:24
Honestly 250 singles would be to slow in 125's depends what engines they use custom GP engines or use a MotoX 250F
Id say 450's in 125's but if I had a say itd be keep 125's

And say 500 Vtwins for 250's
Well shows how much you know. Have a look at the auzzie 125's. One of the guys was only 3 or so seconds of the pace of blake leigh-smith. Thats all the evidence I need to know that the 250 4t will be faster than the 125's 2t in not to long a time.

Badjelly
19th May 2008, 10:29
125 - 600 - 800.

A wee jump isn't it? and then almost no range.

Need some more devistry in moto gp than that. I say bring on the 400 - 500. (If has to be a 4 stroke! pfft)

Devistry?

I guess the reason for the 600s is that they want a size for which production engines are readily available.

mud boy
10th September 2008, 20:28
man that soo dumb likle the 250 are not that far off the 800's that should make it

125GP

250GP

500GP

600GP

800GP

hmmm na fuck the 600GP lol
but that would be no big jump that would be cool:clap::apint:

Cleve
10th September 2008, 22:26
Devistry?

I guess the reason for the 600s is that they want a size for which production engines are readily available.

diversity... as in the spelling you get on KB...:innocent:

RobRod
10th September 2008, 23:08
I reckon they should use prototype 4T 450 twins of whatever angle to replace the 250GP bike and 250T single to replace the 125 class in a similar way it has in mx. Production motors in a prototype frame sounds a lot like F2 of years gone by.

roogazza
11th September 2008, 08:44
diversity... as in the spelling you get on KB...:innocent:

LOL , and not just on KB ! It's quite sad really ! Gaz.

avgas
11th September 2008, 09:13
Thats why bike racers are gay pussies. Who can't handle the castrol 2T.
Yep diesels will be next - then KTM will have to run a VW/Audi motor. Yamaha will be running something out of a Hilux........ Tractor pull
I blame that cunt the crazy frog