What would you do?

[Boob Johnson]

If you were running a backpackers lodge & a prostitute booked in? (without telling you what she is up to)


To give you a better idea.........15 mins ago she calls & asked if we had a room, obviously by the accent I knew she was a kiwi & sounded like she was local (which can be suspect) by the way she was talking, anyway we are a lil quite right now so I said nothing. She checks in 5 mins ago, looked a bit suss as in she kinda looked a bit dressed up (tarty) but it's a pretty tough question to ask without offending so I let it go. Anyway not more than a few minutes go by & some fat dude rolls up & goes into her room. Yep definitely on the slab!


What to do? Kick her out? Put the rent up?


Not a bad looker either :innocent:

[awayatc]

well.....take a cut? get a few more......:yes:

[cowboyz]

can hardly give advice without photos..............

[Al]

Get paid in "kind"?

[Tank]

Tell her the house rules : the owner of the house rides for free.

[Deano]

What to do? Kick her out? Put the rent up?

Why ?

It's a legal activity isn't it ?

Would you consider these options if two business people wanted to hold a meeting in a room?

Live and let live - hookers are people too.

[Boob Johnson]

well.....take a cut? get a few more......:yes:
That was my first thought, I could dig being a pimp for the night :laugh:



can hardly give advice without photos..............
:laugh: she is sitting right in front of the office (on the phone) right now. I could slip the phone up & take a quick snap :whistle:



Get paid in "kind"?
Not my cup of tea, never paid for sex, never will.



Tell her the house rules : the owner of the house rides for free.
lol no thanks, as above



Why ?

It's a legal activity isn't it ?

Would you consider these options if two business people wanted to hold a meeting in a room?

Live and let live - hookers are people too.
You haven't ever run an accommodation business have you?

Hookers are people absolutely, no one is questioning that. Two business people discussing "business" is NOT the same as a hooker conducting her business. No different to the reason why Brothels are usually in discrete places.

[Deano]

Two business people discussing "business" is NOT the same as a hooker conducting her business. No different to the reason why Brothels are usually in discrete places.

Isn't it ? You're taking the moral high ground.

There are three brothels in Lower Hutt - two in the CBD and one in an industrial area.

The CBD is hardly 'discrete'.

Homosexuality is legal now too - would you object to two 'guys' renting a room for the night ? Now that gives new meaning to a 'backpackers' doesn't it, LOL

[MaxB]

If you were running a backpackers lodge & a prostitute booked in? (without telling you what she is up to)


To give you a better idea.........15 mins ago she calls & asked if we had a room, obviously by the accent I knew she was a kiwi & sounded like she was local (which can be suspect) by the way she was talking, anyway we are a lil quite right now so I said nothing. She checks in 5 mins ago, looked a bit suss as in she kinda looked a bit dressed up (tarty) but it's a pretty tough question to ask without offending so I let it go. Anyway not more than a few minutes go by & some fat dude rolls up & goes into her room. Yep definitely on the slab!


What to do? Kick her out? Put the rent up?


Not a bad looker either :innocent:

I guess you have to weigh up the effect on your business versus customer privacy.

If she keeps it discreet then no worries.

But if you get heaps of punters queuing outside her door will it put other people off spending their $$$ in your business?

What would I do? I guess I'd be upset that someone is running a business from my premises. I would see how tonight goes and heave her out if it gets to be a problem. If it goes well eg no disturbance to others I would find a way to make my business benefit (within the law).

My bet is that sooner or later it will turn to crap if she keeps operating out of your place.

[cowboyz]

Not my cup of tea, never paid for sex, never will.



You are married huh? Tell me again how you are not paying for it.......... one way or another.....................

[Deano]

I guess you have to weigh up the effect on your business versus customer privacy.


And the bill of rights - if it's the policy to not allow 'business transactions' to occur on site, then fair enough. But what reason would you give the hooker for refusing a room ?

[Steam]

Boob, I think the backpackers could be prosecuted if she is found to be using the premises as a place to... um... do her kind of business, and if the backpackers knows about it.
"brothels that want to operate legally must apply for licenses or planning permission through local authority planning procedures"

Cover your arse.

[cowboyz]

surely there doesnt have to be a reason. If I owned a hostel (never have and never will) and I didnt like the look of someone I wouldnt hesitate in saying there are no availiable rooms.

[DingoZ]

Cowboyz you are correct.

For a business owner to refuse you entry into or onto the business premises there does not have to be a reason. Nor does the refusal have to be explained to the person being refused either.

Case in point " pubs or clubs on a friday or saturday night " If the people on the door don't like the look of you for what ever reason, and they refuse you entry, then there is nothing you can do about it, If you want to complain to the manager or the owner of said business, then go for it, as is your right, but they still don't have to supply you with a reason....

[scrivy]

What room number is she in mate???? I need her advice on something...... :shifty:

[MaxB]

And the bill of rights - if it's the policy to not allow 'business transactions' to occur on site, then fair enough. But what reason would you give the hooker for refusing a room ?

I wouldn't refuse her a room, her money is as good as anyone elses. But if she acted up or there was trouble from the punters then I would give her the boot.

[MIXONE]

I wouldn't refuse her a room, her money is as good as anyone elses. But if she acted up or there was trouble from the punters then I would give her the boot.

What he said.This thread is useless without pictures.

[Boob Johnson]

Isn't it ? You're taking the moral high ground.

There are three brothels in Lower Hutt - two in the CBD and one in an industrial area.

The CBD is hardly 'discrete'.

Homosexuality is legal now too - would you object to two 'guys' renting a room for the night ? Now that gives new meaning to a 'backpackers' doesn't it, LOL
No moral high ground at all Deano. But ill happily give you hand off that horse? The CBD is discrete actually & its where a lot of "partying" goes on so it fits in. The builder who does all our work is gay, bloody top bloke, have had heaps of guests that are (quite obviously gay) no drama at all, I think you are totally missing the boat mate, gay guests & pro's are two very different things. I have no problem with hookers in general. As I said previously to which you ignored.........you haven't ever run an accommodation business before have you?

(Gay couples) it does give new meaning to backpackers lol.





I guess you have to weigh up the effect on your business versus customer privacy.

If she keeps it discreet then no worries.

But if you get heaps of punters queuing outside her door will it put other people off spending their $$$ in your business?

What would I do? I guess I'd be upset that someone is running a business from my premises. I would see how tonight goes and heave her out if it gets to be a problem. If it goes well eg no disturbance to others I would find a way to make my business benefit (within the law).

My bet is that sooner or later it will turn to crap if she keeps operating out of your place.
Yeah that's pretty much it nail on the head there Max :niceone:

As mentioned I don't have many guests here so it's a little easier to manage. Have had some shockers in before, ignoring the no smoking policy, trash the room, drunk & arguing (keeping other guests & me awake), drugs & all its associated problems, the list goes on, they really can be a handful!! And not worth the hassle.

And yeah that's the thing that people like Deano don't understand she is making money out of my business, that was never an arrangement we agreed on.

Update: while I was writing this she has decided to leave. He he, smashing news, all turned out for the better. Only had one "client" in too, she even tied up the room, made the bed (why I don't know as it needs to be changed obviously lol) & even emptied her rubbish bin & took it with her lol.

[Deano]

Nor does the refusal have to be explained to the person being refused either.

If you want to complain to the manager or the owner of said business, then go for it, as is your right, but they still don't have to supply you with a reason....

I think you will be on dodgy ground if a complaint is made and you have to explain your reasoning to the authorities.


Boob, I think the backpackers could be prosecuted if she is found to be using the premises as a place to... um... do her kind of business, and if the backpackers knows about it.
"brothels that want to operate legally must apply for licenses or planning permission through local authority planning procedures"

Cover your arse.

Steam is onto it. Refusal for any other reason would be dodgy IMO.

[Deano]

you haven't ever run an accommodation business before have you?
.

My point is that you want to be careful not to be done for discrimination.

I think Steam has pointed out the appropriate legal ramifications.

[Maha]

If you were running a backpackers lodge & a prostitute booked in? (without telling you what she is up to)
What to do? Kick her out?


Hell no dont kick her out, if there is enough time....set up a hidden camera.

[Boob Johnson]

You are married huh? Tell me again how you are not paying for it.......... one way or another.....................
lol na im not married


And the bill of rights - if it's the policy to not allow 'business transactions' to occur on site, then fair enough. But what reason would you give the hooker for refusing a room ?
Exactly that if I so wished (no business conducted on site), otherwise it's the stock answer.....sorry we are full!




Boob, I think the backpackers could be prosecuted if she is found to be using the premises as a place to... um... do her kind of business, and if the backpackers knows about it.
"brothels that want to operate legally must apply for licenses or planning permission through local authority planning procedures"


Cover your arse.
All good ma man, she is gone & she never told me what she was up to, I figured it out myself.



Cowboyz you are correct.

For a business owner to refuse you entry into or onto the business premises there does not have to be a reason. Nor does the refusal have to be explained to the person being refused either.

Case in point " pubs or clubs on a friday or saturday night " If the people on the door don't like the look of you for what ever reason, and they refuse you entry, then there is nothing you can do about it, If you want to complain to the manager or the owner of said business, then go for it, as is your right, but they still don't have to supply you with a reason....
Exactly



What room number is she in mate???? I need her advice on something...... :shifty:
:laugh: she ain't flash enough for a drive this far south :shutup:

[AllanB]

Maybe a one -off (so to speak) incident. Also maybe her 'lover' cheating on his wife (or boyfriend in today's age) using your room as a meeting point (so to speak).
If she returns with a different chap then your suspicions are probably correct - unless of course this second guy is the gay lover of the first fat chap and he is cheating on him with the woman the gay fat guy is cheating on the second man with.....

Anyway - if I stopped to stay there with my family and found there was a knocking shop operating in the room next to me I'd be having a word with management pretty quickly.

[Deano]

Exactly
:

My understanding is that a reason for refusal should be given - if they lodge a complaint then you will need to explain to the authorities - silence is basically an admission of guilt.

I take a bit of exception to your comment about "people like Deano" - you don't know me, and at the end of the day, my advice was only intended to help, not hinder.

But, whatever. This is KB.

[The Stranger]

No moral high ground at all Deano. But ill happily give you hand off that horse? The CBD is discrete actually & its where a lot of "partying" goes on so it fits in. The builder who does all our work is gay, bloody top bloke, have had heaps of guests that are (quite obviously gay) no drama at all, I think you are totally missing the boat mate, gay guests & pro's are two very different things. I have no problem with hookers in general. As I said previously to which you ignored.........you haven't ever run an accommodation business before have you?



What horse?
Deano isn't on any horse. He's simply putting his opinion.
You keep pointing out (from your horse may I add) that he has never run an accomodation business before. Well neither have I, so it would be good to have an appreciation of the issues you face under such circumstances.

[DingoZ]

I think you will be on dodgy ground if a complaint is made and you have to explain your reasoning to the authorities.






No not on dodgy ground in the least. I owned a pub a few years back and this was covered in the licensing exam. Same reasoning applies, for other business's.... And we have to explain this same thing to numerous callers to police on a drunken friday or saturday night as well. "He won't let me in", the strip club has booted me out, or won't let me in, and they not telling me why"....They all get told the same thing...


My understanding is that a reason for refusal should be given -



Is always nice when it happens, but rarely. I had to on a few occasions, let people know they were not welcome on the pub grounds. With the exception of one I always gave a reason. Didn't have to, but thought it would be the appropriate thing to do....

[Boob Johnson]

My point is that you want to be careful not to be done for discrimination.

I think Steam has pointed out the appropriate legal ramifications.
Which are in correct



Maybe a one -off (so to speak) incident. Also maybe her 'lover' cheating on his wife (or boyfriend in today's age) using your room as a meeting point (so to speak).
If she returns with a different chap then your suspicions are probably correct - unless of course this second guy is the gay lover of the first fat chap and he is cheating on him with the woman the gay fat guy is cheating on the second man with.....

Anyway - if I stopped to stay there with my family and found there was a knocking shop operating in the room next to me I'd be having a word with management pretty quickly.
Im all out of bling today sorry :clap:

Yeah that's the issue that bleeding hearts people don't seem to understand, im happy to take her money im just not happy refunding the 5 other guests (who will never return & will speak poorly of your business) then there is the other 5 who won't say a thing, leave the next day never to return & again speak poorly to others of the business. Is the hookers money worth it now you ask?



I take a bit of exception to your comment about "people like Deano" - you don't know me, and at the end of the day, my advice was only intended to help, not hinder.

But, whatever. This is KB.
I take exception to your comment about me having a prejudice against gays. Im yet to see anything helpful from any of your "advice" here sorry Deano. And no Deano I don't know you which has a flip side, you don't know me either. What I do know about you is that you haven't fully understood the original question or fully thought through your answer hence "people like Deano", not meant as a put down as such just a label.

[peasea]

[QUOTE=Boob Johnson;1566347]The builder who does all our work is gay, bloody top bloke
QUOTE]

He goes on top?

[tri boy]

If she is a Tom, and you allow her trade to operate under your premises comfortably. What stops her telling the other Toms that your hostel is a push over for cheap banging space?
Politely tell her that it might pay to not call again, and that you can't allow such activities to carry on.
One visit could grow into dozens, and less than polite conversations, (P fueled slagging matches at reception).
Nip it in the bud mate.

[fridayflash]

Why ?

It's a legal activity isn't it ?

Would you consider these options if two business people wanted to hold a meeting in a room?

Live and let live - hookers are people too.
too true mate,although youd need to change name of the hostel if it became a more regular occurance lol

[kevfromcoro]

PLEASED she is gone,,these people seem to attract trouble..and it goes on and on..............

[peasea]

If she is a Tom, and you allow her trade to operate under your premises comfortably. What stops her telling the other Toms that your hostel is a push over for cheap banging space?
Politely tell her that it might pay to not call again, and that you can't allow such activities to carry on.
One visit could grow into dozens, and less than polite conversations, (P fueled slagging matches at reception).
Nip it in the bud mate.

Or get some buds to go with the nipples...........

[Boob Johnson]

If she is a Tom, and you allow her trade to operate under your premises comfortably. What stops her telling the other Toms that your hostel is a push over for cheap banging space?
Politely tell her that it might pay to not call again, and that you can't allow such activities to carry on.
One visit could grow into dozens, and less than polite conversations, (P fueled slagging matches at reception).
Nip it in the bud mate.
There is no IF's, she is a working girl 100%. All under control, she is gone. I had a wee chat with her explaining that no one else was to be let on site at anytime. I didn't confront her about her exact activities but did make it clear that no guests were to be let on site at anytime, especially late at night. Also let her know I live on site, so the acid was on her in a subtle but not too subtle way. She obviously got the message as she left not too soon after. It would never get out of control on my watch, I don't take any shit from clowns as a few have found out :devil2:

[ynot slow]

As a business manager/owner in retail or hospitality you are under no obligation to serve or let anyone you are not happy/comfortable with in your business premises,no law says you must sell them goods or services,it is your descretion.

Sounds like all worked out for the good,no major problem.

Can we have kb mates rates?

Sure she wasn't from "target"checking your room.

Hell Lisa Lewis didn't waste time getting off the mark.

[Boob Johnson]

As a business manager/owner in retail or hospitality you are under no obligation to serve or let anyone you are not happy/comfortable with in your business premises,no law says you must sell them goods or services,it is your descretion.

Sounds like all worked out for the good,no major problem.

Can we have kb mates rates?

Sure she wasn't from "target"checking your room.

Hell Lisa Lewis didn't waste time getting off the mark.
Course you can have mates rates Tony :niceone:


Just had another guy turn up for a root lol, poor bugger had to tell him she was no longer a guest, he looked rather tense :rofl:

[ynot slow]

Just had another guy turn up for a root lol, poor bugger had to tell him she was no longer a guest, he looked rather tense :rofl:

Wot you don't have a doll named Greselda,just don't get the muslim ones they blow themselves up.

[Ripperjon]

If you're gonna get in that sort of clientelle, i recommend CCTV.

[Swoop]

Homosexuality is legal now too - would you object to two 'guys' renting a room for the night ? Now that gives new meaning to a 'backpackers' doesn't it, LOL
Or should that be "Fudge-packers'"?

[Deano]

It is unlikely that you will be challenged by 'her' for refusal.

What I am saying is that if a complaint is made against you, you WILL have to explain the reason why. This is what I learnt in MY training.

Prove me otherwise - I'd love to see the evidence. I may be wrong, but I'm not simply talking out of a hole in my arse either.

Answer this - if questioned by authorities following up a case of discrimination, what would you say was the reason was for refusal ?

[ynot slow]

It is unlikely that you will be challenged by 'her' for refusal.

What I am saying is that if a complaint is made against you, you WILL have to explain the reason why. This is what I learnt in MY training.

Prove me otherwise - I'd love to see the evidence. I may be wrong, but I'm not simply talking out of a hole in my arse either.

Answer this - if questioned by authorities following up a case of discrimination, what would you say was the reason was for refusal ?

Yep see your point,wouldn't take much for her to say "because I am a woman"and"jewish" therefore they are prejudiced to my sex and religion beliefs.Then onus is on the legitimate operator to answer.P/C gone wrong?

[mstriumph]

.....................My bet is that sooner or later it will turn to crap if she keeps operating out of your place.

what he said :no:

[P38]

If you were running a backpackers lodge & a prostitute booked in? (without telling you what she is up to)


To give you a better idea.........15 mins ago she calls & asked if we had a room, obviously by the accent I knew she was a kiwi & sounded like she was local (which can be suspect) by the way she was talking, anyway we are a lil quite right now so I said nothing. She checks in 5 mins ago, looked a bit suss as in she kinda looked a bit dressed up (tarty) but it's a pretty tough question to ask without offending so I let it go. Anyway not more than a few minutes go by & some fat dude rolls up & goes into her room. Yep definitely on the slab!


What to do? Kick her out? Put the rent up?


Not a bad looker either :innocent:

Line up and wait your turn like everyone else. :whistle:

[roadracingoldfart]

You haven't ever run an accommodation business have you?

Hookers are people absolutely, no one is questioning that. Two business people discussing "business" is NOT the same as a hooker conducting her business. No different to the reason why Brothels are usually in discrete places.


Two buisness people discussing buisness is no where near as efficiant as a hooker and a client actually doing buisness so if you support the windbag buisnessmen and diss the actual doer's then so be it. :spanking::hug:

I have not " run " an accommodation buisness either but i have helped my sister run a 15 room joint in Rotorua so i know there can be some customers you wonder about but unless your sure it may well come down to a bad feeling thats quite wrong.