What's the point?

[James Deuce]

Of the tags if they just get deleted or changed by some goody two shoes?

[Mom]

Want me to bring you a coffee mate?

Tags are the new toys, fun to play with for a little while, quickly will become boring :yes:

[sels1]

wots a tag?

[GSVR]

Of the tags if they just get deleted or changed by some goody two shoes?

Whats the point of Private Messages if the moderators can read them?

[Jantar]

Whats the point of Private Messages if the moderators can read them?
What's the point of this post if the moderators cant read them?

[Joni]

Whats the point of Private Messages if the moderators can read them?Paranoia setting in? I presume you know this for a fact eh?

Wish someone had told me this when I was a mod, then I could have read everyone’s pm’s… :lol: :rolleyes:

Hey Jantar... read my pm's from yesterday, Im planning to take over the world mwaahahahaha! :thud:

[Virago]

Whats the point of Private Messages if the moderators can read them?

They can't. End of story.

[Trudes]

And why would they want to? Surely we can't be that interesting?!

[PrincessBandit]

So what is a tag, and how do you do them/what do you do with them/rah rah rah?

[Katman]

So what is a tag,

You're 'it'. :msn-wink:

(No returns).

[merv]

And why would they want to? Surely we can't be that interesting?!

What, not even the steaming hot PM's between me and you :devil2:?

As for tags I still don't get what they are about, haven't had time, too busy worrying about my Bro'.

[McJim]

I was going to use tags to categorise threads with a common theme I was interested in that weren't neccessarily in the same forum. It gives them a common element that I can use. Southern rides is a good example. Every time I find out abourt a ride or a meeting down this end of the country I tag it Southern Rides so I can find 'em all quickly.......sorry.....isn't that the point of them?

[imdying]

Whats the point of Private Messages if the moderators can read them?They can't, only the admins that have access to the raw database could do this, and even then, only if they went out of there way to look at them.

vBulletin itself provides no built in web page facility for moderators to look at users PMs. I've seen the senior moderators controls, and no plug in to allow them to look at them has been installed either.

Whilst yes it is feasible that the administrators could read your PMs, I think you'll find their lives are far more interesting than that.

[Joni]

They can't, only the admins that have access to the raw database could do this, and even then, only if they went out of there way to look at them.

vBulletin itself provides no built in web page facility for moderators to look at users PMs. I've seen the senior moderators controls, and no plug in to allow them to look at them has been installed either.

Whilst yes it is feasible that the administrators could read your PMs, I think you'll find their lives are far more interesting than that.Ah Malcolm babe... why did you do this? It’s a conspiracy don’t you know... your logical explanation just clears the air, and we all know that is not what is wanted... they want to bitch and moan, don’t take that away from them! :lol:

[imdying]

Heh, just the techinical aspect that interests me :) Yes, it is feasible that someone with server access could go to the trouble of finding a message in the database to read, but no, even the senior mods can't do it. I have to wonder why one someone would be arrogant enough to be paranoid about something like that though... I mean shit, they think their PMs are that interesting? :rofl:

It is worth noting that even things that are encypted when they're stored in a database, are not really that secure from the database administrators. Do consider that when putting 'private' things into an IT system of any type.

[yod]

if it's one way encryption (md5 for example), then your average dba isn't going to be able to decipher it

if it's not encrypted then anyone with a basic knowledge of sql and access to the db could find and read them

[Joni]

I mean shit, they think their PMs are that interesting? :rofl: Bingo schmingo matie!

Is it paranoi? Arrogance? Stupidity? that makes them think their PM's are that interesting...

Hmmm :scratch:

[Mikkel]

Heh, just the techinical aspect that interests me :) Yes, it is feasible that someone with server access could go to the trouble of finding a message in the database to read, but no, even the senior mods can't do it. I have to wonder why one someone would be arrogant enough to be paranoid about something like that though... I mean shit, they think their PMs are that interesting? :rofl:

It is worth noting that even things that are encypted when they're stored in a database, are not really that secure from the database administrators. Do consider that when putting 'private' things into an IT system of any type.

Hey, I'd be nervous too, if I had just PM'ed my bank account details to a nice fella from Nigeria...

[Joni]

Hey, I'd be nervous too, if I had just PM'ed my bank account details to a nice fella from Nigeria...so that falls in the stupidity area then! :msn-wink: :niceone:

[imdying]

if it's one way encryption (md5 for example), then your average dba isn't going to be able to decipher it

if it's not encrypted then anyone with a basic knowledge of sql and access to the db could find and read themThe site will still have to decipher them to display them to the user, to replicate that functionality is pretty trivial :yes:

[Mental Trousers]

Even when life as an Administrator is mind numbingly boring, it isn't that fucking boring.


Whilst yes it is feasible that the administrators could read your PMs, I think you'll find their lives are far more interesting than that.

[imdying]

decipher md5??

good luck with thatIf the message can never be decrypted, it ain't very much use now is it...

Even when life as an Administrator is mind numbingly boring, it isn't that fucking boring.Pretty much :yes:

[GSVR]

Of the tags if they just get deleted or changed by some goody two shoes?

Sorry to hear you upset by the Tag system Jim. Have you tried to send a Private Message to a moderator? Possibly they get so many messages when new features are added they can't read and reply to all of them.

Are you allowed to post up a reply so we can all know why tags get deleted or changed.

[imdying]

It would be worth complaining if you have a genuine concern that someone is removing valid tags. I'm guessing that tag usage is a user right option, and they can probably revoke access to problem users... if they know about them.

[Mental Trousers]

Moved the talk about encryption out to a dedicated thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=74608).

[Steam]

Who is the dedicated member devoted to tagging threads "arse biscuit"??
So far there are over 100 threads with the tag Arse Biscuit. Including this one.
It's fairly hilarious, but WHAT IF I NEEDED TO DO A REAL SEARCH FOR ARSE BISCUITS??? Hmm? Mr Joker, bet you didn't think of THAT!

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/tags.php?tag=arse+biscuit

[Conquiztador]

Who is the dedicated member devoted to tagging threads "arse biscuit"??
So far there are over 100 threads with the tag Arse Biscuit. Including this one.
It's fairly hilarious, but WHAT IF I NEEDED TO DO A REAL SEARCH FOR ARSE BISCUITS??? Hmm? Mr Joker, bet you didn't think of THAT!

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/tags.php?tag=arse+biscuit

A valid point!!

This tagging is becoming a little like... well, tagging.

[jrandom]

This tagging is becoming a little like... well, tagging.

You expected maybe something else?

[Usarka]

As an aside, if you really do need to search for arse biscuits (wtf they may be) then maybe k-rd or the equivalent welly-wood tranny hang out may be the bet rather than kb.....?

[ManDownUnder]

fun to play with for a little while, quickly will become boring :yes:

They're female?? Cool!:drool: