How do you make sure she stays put?

[rie]

what do you guys use specifically to secure your bikes at home/on the road?

at home, my bike is visible from a main road albeit covered. i have disclocks etc all over but nothing to stop ambitious thieves from just lifting it off the ground. (the flat boys lift it up and shift it around the yard for laughs)

i need some serious suggestions on how i can beef up the security. which brands are reliable, how you installed it, potential ways thieves will get around it, price, etc.

this may seem like an obvious case of shopping around, but i wanted to hear from riders who aren't trying to sell me something!


cheers :)

[Swoop]

At a close range and further away...:rockon:

[McJim]

I always parked in a locked garage either at work or at home. Now I don't commute on the bike anymore but if I am out and about I tend to never let it out of my sight.

[vifferman]

Get a Xena disclock - it has an alarm in it, innit?

[et al]

Mongoose MCA500 alarm, with the pager option - worth a try (as long as you are not too far away from your bike and in a brick building).

[mowgli]

How do you make sure she stays put?
In short, you can't. What ever you do will not beat the most resourceful thief.

At home I keep it out of sight (don't advertise its presence). In public keep it in plain sight (crims hate an audience). Disc locks, immobilisers, alarms, big fuck off chains and ground anchors, will further reduce the chance of getting stolen.

[Morcs]

Dont like the XENA discklocks.

Everytime you try to squirm the key in, it goes off.

When moisture gets in. It goes off. and doesnt stop.

When the battery is low. It goes off. And doesnt stop.

Only way to turn it off requires an allen key and pulling the batteries out - all the while 96db is screaming in your eyes.

Ground anchors are the way to go. Oxford brute strenght, combined with an oxford chain, and an oxford boss alarmed lock for the chain.

sorted.

[McDuck]

I have got an alarmed chan, one that if it is cut it gos off with 120db. I havnt tested it but i like the concept.

[Str8 Jacket]

I have got an alarmed chan

Is that a lil asian man or something?

[McDuck]

Is that a lil asian man or something?

Yep, anyone who ignores the effectiveness of a little slit-eye has never been kicked in the shins by one.

[Grahameeboy]

I live in Devonport.....nuff said.

[Kittyhawk]

pay a hobo can of beer a day to sit guard n watch

[CookMySock]

at home, my bike is visible from a main road albeit covered.basically, you shouldn't do that. Its like leaving the camera or your wallet on the seat of your car. Put it somewhere out of sight, or it's just a matter of time.

DB

[nallac]

i would invest in a little garden shed to keep in,
outa site outa mind.

just a cheap one from M10 or the likes, piss easy to put up
and ya can take with ya when you move.

[MIXONE]

A shottie and a rottie.

[Hitcher]

Disc locks and covers. Out of sight, out of mind.

[peasea]

i would invest in a little garden shed to keep in,
outa site outa mind.

just a cheap one from M10 or the likes, piss easy to put up
and ya can take with ya when you move.


Quite right; what the eye can't see the heart won't desire. I know of several bikes ripe for the plucking but the sticky-fingered can't see them.

Basically, the more security you throw at your bike the more secure it will be. Also, the more you have invested in the machine (be that cash or emotion) then the best security is all worth it.

[Blossom]

We have ours in the internal garage, thinking about concreting a chain into the floor just to be extra sure.
All our neighbours know we have bikes so cant really keep it too quiet but the guy next door has a Triumph so I suspect his is more appealling to the sticking fingered bunch... Perhaps you could get someone with a Harley to move in next door???:whistle:

[phantom]

At home it is always in a locked alarmed garage with bars on the window. ( We also have a dog but he is useless ) Anywhere else I must admit that I rely on the fact that it is too pretty for any low-life to want

[homer]

I always parked in a locked garage either at work or at home. Now I don't commute on the bike anymore but if I am out and about I tend to never let it out of my sight.

i do the same there to , i dont like it out of site unless its most likely it wont be touched .

[Swoop]

In public keep it in plain sight (crims hate an audience).
It dosen't deter the brazen theives though. Looking confident and relaxed around a bike will not alert the average Joe Public.
They prefer a quiet spot, but will attempt a theft anywhere.:ar15:

[HungusMaximist]

We've got a huge steep ass 20 metre drive way leading down to our house and the bike is kept inside the alarmed garage.

Though it will be much safer it we installed a gate at the top as we left a mountain bike outside the front door patio and some punk ass kids took off with it during the school holidays.

If I was you, if it has open view to the road, I'd get a beefy chain lock and lock it up to a ground anchor (the alarmed ones sounds pretty clever).

[DUCATI*HARD]

they live inside locked doors, by the dogs,not far from shotgun:devil2:

[Kittyhawk]

my rotty x huntaway pup is scared of a gn revving!! hate to see her reaction to a v twin lol....no a matter of time before the guard dog training starts

lock it alarm it dont let it out of your sight when you are out in the day riding, parking etc.

maybe take the wheels off at night and padlock frame to yourself??

[Mikkel]

Comprehensive insurance.

[Gubb]

If the shed has a concrete floor, Dyna-bolt a wire loop to it.

[sinfull]

Comprehensive insurance.

I'd say most insurers would require it to be locked up or the access rises !

I'd say a great lump of concrete with even better locking device would be the cheapest option (prob the best) build it so it would take a gas axe to get ya bike out !

[Mikkel]

I'd say most insurers would require it to be locked up or the access rises !

I'd say a great lump of concrete with even better locking device would be the cheapest option (prob the best) build it so it would take a gas axe to get ya bike out !

I think you'll find that your location will have a greater impact upon you premium and excess than your security measures.

As long as you keep your bike in a garage I don't think your insurance company cares if you have 200 dynabolts, an electric fence, CCTV, a rottweiler, machine guns hooked up to motionsensors, cyanide gas, a moat, claymore mines, etc.

Best way to keep your bike safe is to buy something that nobody would ever bother stealing.

Don't worry - be happy.

[sinfull]

I think you'll find that your location will have a greater impact upon you premium and excess than your security measures.

As long as you keep your bike in a garage I don't think your insurance company cares if you have 200 dynabolts, an electric fence, CCTV, a rottweiler, machine guns hooked up to motionsensors, cyanide gas, a moat, claymore mines, etc.

Best way to keep your bike safe is to buy something that nobody would ever bother stealing.

Don't worry - be happy.

That be true to a word but unfortunately Rie has no garage and her flatmates have a laugh at moving it round so ground anchor has to be the way to go !

[Grahameeboy]

You guys worry too much....bike crime in NZ is nothing.

In the 80's back in UK the theft rate for an RD350YPVS was 80%...they would just stick poles through wheels and lift into the wee van...

[Grahameeboy]

That be true to a word but unfortunately Rie has no garage and her flatmates have a laugh at moving it round so ground anchor has to be the way to go !

I'd anchor the flatmates down

[Grahameeboy]

Motorbike Theft Soars In the UK


Motorbikes are becoming an increasingly popular method of transport in the UK, with new bike prices ranging from £1,000 to £20,000 dependent on the make of the bike. Surprisingly though, most bikes irrespective of price are not fitted with additional security measures as standard.
<!-- content split -->A recent survey by the National Crime Intelligence Service (NCIS) based on the latest police figures on vehicle crime and performance bikes (500cc and above) has revealed some shocking statistics. More motorbikes are stolen in the UK than are bought new, and it takes on average 20 seconds to steal a motorcycle worth £10,000. The survey is also the first to reveal some of the UK's danger spots for motorcycle crime, and as such has been distributed to police forces around the country.
The report has shown that the theft of motorbikes in the UK has allowed criminal groups to steal £3 million worth of motorbikes from UK streets every month. Thefts are primarily undertaken to sell parts on the black market, although joyriding is also cited as a main cause.
The report is part of Project Contrail, which targets the organised theft of high-powered motorcycles and is seen by many as a prelude to new bikes being registered as a legal requirement (similar to the car register requirement issued by the Home Office). Other results show the thefts are undertaken by a dozen well known, highly organised gangs.

Some of the key findings in the report include:
More thefts occur in large urban areas.
The thefts are undertaken by a dozen well known, highly organised gangs.
80% of bikes stolen from an owner's home.
Thefts are concentrated around Central London, probably linked to patterns of commuting.
The top five areas for theft include West Yorkshire, West Midlands and Greater Manchester.
The top four makes of motorcycle that account for over 85 per cent of thefts are Hondas, Yamahas, Kawasaki's, and Suzuki's.
The Honda CBR 600 is the hottest bike, which retails at £6,500, with 350 of them stolen between July and September 2002.



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FACT - 100 Motorcycles are stolen everyday in the UK.
FACT - £3m worth of bikes are stolen in the UK every month.
FACT - 80% of bikes are stolen from home.
FACT - A bike is over twice as likely to be stolen as a car.

Just think 100 bikes a day is almost = to number of registered bikes in NZ...

[rie]

maybe take the wheels off at night and padlock frame to yourself??

excellent idea. i already staple my laptop to my chest before going to bed. perhaps i should just sleep on the bike. :yes:

[rie]

Question:

would you rather

(a) keep the bike behind your block of units (ie not visible from your actual unit) but it is out of sight from the road, locked to a concrete-bound pole

the cons of this is that it is equivalent to keeping your bike at your boozy & unemployed neighbour's place (dodgy!) where you can't see it.


...or
(b) keep the bike in front of YOUR unit but visible from the road, locked to a ground anchor?

at status quo, bike is in (a)
- covered with oxford cover (stupid things - why advertise motorcycle apparel on something you are intending to hide away??)
- disclocked
- back wheel chained to concrete-bound pole
- on grass.

[scracha]

My top tip is to never wash your bike. Seriously though, we live on an island MILES from anywhere else so it's about time the government made alpha dot (or similar) scanning compulsory for WOF's (and MNZ or the cops should do random checks at trackdays and race meetings). Less than $50 per bike to implement and it would cut the thefts by 90% overnight.

[gijoe1313]

Hmmm I think putting a claymore mine wired to blast any miscreants when they move your bike would be the goer! :devil2:

Or better yet a nice little hand grenade beneath the seat where their 'nads would be! :spanking:

Or howsabout wiring it up to the mains? :doctor:

Hmmm no real answer to this except storing it at a friend's place and get them to pillion you over to pick it up each time? :scratch:

[pocketcracker]

ya all a bunch af f**(^% ! answer it properly,

i would suggest , using your cover stops the day to day grim, and keeps it out of plan view ,

continue to use your disk lock you already own ! and go see shelby or go across to cycle treads and get a oxforb boss chain and lock and utilize that pole you have near buy ! ,, ie. cant see it , cant wheel it , cant lift it ,, sorted !

[TOTO]

Dick lock mainly. If they steel it, I'll get to buy a new bike so it doesnt worry me. Having insurance is the best :yes:

[Swoop]

Dick lock mainly.
Sound's painful.


Seriously now. Pressure pads?
With Grameeboy's post regarding %80 occurring at home, is there a pressure pad available that can be put under the wheel/s?
Lift bike or roll forward = alarm.

??????

[gijoe1313]

Are you able to install a ground anchor into the concrete with the landlord's permission? That way you can at least use a strong chain with a decibel alarm to provide a little more deterrent?

[buellbabe]

A shottie and a rottie.

Er... dunno about the shottie but I got it covered with my Bullmastif Ridgeback and my Rotty/Huntaway.

Case in point: A couple of weekends ago a mate came round on Saturday night. He had only ever been to my place once before and that was during daylight hours. This time it was full dark.

He got as far as the first gate before the dogs alerted me. Shar (RottyX) didn't stop to investigate, she just launched herself through the air at throat height. If it weren't for the fact that I have a 6ft high double netting gate nailed to the first one she would have done some damage.

Dogs and locks... work for me plus my bike goes thru 2 gates and once its beyond the 2nd gate no-one can see where the hell it goes.
Also my house and garage are fully alarmed...

You can NEVER have enough security.

I used to live somewhere that only had a carport and limited access to the house so I did some 'landscaping' and with a bit of manoeuvring and a ramp the bike lived in my bedroom.

[PrincessBandit]

Dick lock mainly.

Bwahahaha, is that to lock the theive's appendage as they attempt to ride your bike away? Some serious chastity belt variation?

Seriously, anyone determined enough will take it despite precautions. My suggestion is find whatever is noisiest and time consuming to circumvent. While an immobilising lock may be annoying to a lowlife turd bike thief as it would require lifting the bike, something that makes a hell of a racket while they do so is more likely to be off-putting. Even noisy things won't guarantee it'll never get nicked, but theives generally don't like anything that might draw attention to what they're doing, especially if what they're attempting is time-consuming.

[motorbyclist]

get a dog - a big loud one

all my neighbours have been robbed several times since i've lived out west (over 12 years) despite all having alarms, yet my place has never had a theft for the past 11 years when someone stole our front gates.

so either this is because my family have been stealing all the motortrikes, playstations (which we only want during the school holidays), jewellery etc etc, without anyone noticing, or it's got something to do with the rather large, and most importantly, LOUD dog we installed:cool:

thieves hate dogs. the only other thing you can do is get insurance and keep it hidden.

some thieves are opportunists put off by a disc lock, some are thick and don't realise a screwdriver can never start an R1, and some simply pull up with a van with painted windows, 4 guys hop out, cut cable/chain, lift the bike into the van and are gone within 2 minutes and there's not much you can do about it.

though i'm thinking of rigging up one of those GPS units some employers put on their company cars to keep track of them - if my bike gets nicked i'll not bother with having the police simply not give a shit and instead have a KB party at the theif's house - if KB brings cars i won't mind, it'll help us reclaim all the stuff he doesn't actually own.




The top four makes of motorcycle that account for over 85 per cent of thefts are Hondas, Yamahas, Kawasaki's, and Suzuki's.

well that might be because they're the four most common makes of bikes?

[klyong82]

...and go see shelby or go across to cycle treads and get a oxforb boss chain and lock and utilize that pole you have near buy ! ,, ie. cant see it , cant wheel it , cant lift it ,, sorted !

Boss chain and lock....i think they were haaving that on sale last week at cycletreads....if you go in and mention that deal they might do it at that price... I bought 3 sets of brake pads for the price of 2 even after the sale had ended...

[munterk6]

I think its actually worth shifting to a better area/house with a Garage just for the peace of mind! Stuff the cost, who wants to live next to a bunch of dole-bludging thieves? NOT ME!!!! I shifted after my bike was stolen and my flat cleaned out by the scum bottom feeders and Im soooooooo glad I did.