Not-at-fault crash - do I bother notifying the Police?

[jrandom]

Long story short?

Around lunchtime today, a less-than-alert lady driver turned right on Grafton Road without looking, resulting in kiwifruit's R1 getting smashed up and me getting off extraordinarily lightly (Draggin Jeans do what it says on the tin - I'm impressed).

Details collected, claim forms dispatched, Tim at JBI has laughed his arse off and made me promise not to make any more hair gel jokes at his expense, etc.

Given that my total injuries amount to a slight feeling of warmth on my left leg where the Draggin kevlar rubbed around between it and the road, I didn't think to call the fuzz from the scene of the crash.

I'm now wondering whether I shouldn't pop into a station and make some sort of report as insurance against getting fucked over by the oh-so-nice lady driver in question, who will undoubtedly, within the next day or two, act as they always do and start loudly claiming that none of it was her fault.

Would anyone with relevant experience or expertise care to contribute informed commentary on the matter?

Ta in advance.

:sunny:

And now I'll probably be reduced to borrowing Stickchick's EL250 until Betty's out of the shop... look on my works, ye mighty, and despair! May 2008 just ain't my month, is it?

[Str8 Jacket]

Im gonna call your bluff.

[Mully]

Mate, report it. For insurance against her denial as you said, but also in case you develop injuries that require ACC intervention.

Plus, it makes your insurance company more helpful.

If you don't, I bet she will. And she wil spin it.

[vifferman]

My condolences on your oops.

Whelp, I've been in similar circumstances myself, but fortunately in the two cases where the polis weren't informed, the other drivers didn't renege on their "It was all my fault" initial stance. I guess I was lucky.

[CookMySock]

[...] as insurance against getting fucked over by the oh-so-nice lady driver in question, who will undoubtedly, within the next day or two, act as they always do and start loudly claiming that none of it was her fault.Uh huh. Didn't you see the thread about this a few weeks back ? You have answered your own question of course. ;)

Do it.

DB

[Maha]

Na I wouldn't report it....Just Courier Post the bits to Taupo and change your address.....:cool:

[jrandom]

OK. I guess I'll pop down t'station in the morning and have a good old whinge.

It's a shame, because, all things considered, I'd rather not make the lady's life any more difficult; I expect she'll end up getting hit up for an insurance excess, etc, etc.

But I suppose one can never trust in human nature in such circumstances.

Sad world, innit?

[Blossom]

I am with Mully on this one.
My dad got done over by a "helpfull young man" who after going so fast, drove into the side of my dads trailer, then went to the cops a day or two later and said Dad pulled out in front of him... because the young man was in a borrowed uninsured car... $5000 court costs later, Dad finally won.
Better to be safe than sorry. Also if she or you is injured; by law it must be reported within 24hrs I believe.

[Cajun]

should have a report lodged with police, insurance will be wanting a copy of this report, if not yours, hers for sure will be, so best to get in first. before she can get in and blame you.

[jrandom]

if she or you is injured...

Well, I do have this kinda scrape thing goin' on on my left knee.

And I wouldn't be at all surprised if I wake up in the morning with a blinding headache after having twisted my neck in the fall.

:cool:

[sinfull]

If that nice lil ol lady dont screw ya over, sure as F..k her insurance co will have a go if they sniff an opening !

[NZsarge]

Bugger!
you already answered your own question in the first post really.
Tell the po po.

[scrivy]

Best thing that could have happened to the fruits bike....... :shutup::bleh::whistle:

[DingoZ]

Aye..

All non injury vehicle accidents must be reported by parties involved to their nearest police station within 48 hrs.

Covers you in case either yourself or the other party develops medical issues, or insurance problems, as the insurance companies require an event number or file number as referance...

Plus if the police think that either driver could be charged with an offence then charges sometimes are proceeded with....

AS happened when the guy ran into the back of me.....:)

[LilSel]

Bugger mate!!

Def pop down n lodge it 'just in case'

[Grahameeboy]

Only problem is that the Police were not called to scene so all they can do is record each party's version wheras if the Police attended the scene they would have got oral statements as well at the scene as well as signed statements later and they could make a more informed decision.

At end of day if Lady has made your life difficult by knocking you off...taking away your mode of transport to work and play then getting the Police involved would be a minor inconvenience.

Just my sixpence worth

[MSTRS]

Absolutely you must report it. And didn't you destroy that spanking new set of Spidi leathers??

[FROSTY]

Dude--too late --spilt milk and all that --Ya shoulda called the cops right away at the scene -At the least call in to the copshop NOW and report it.
The insurance co is gonna want to know ya did it anyhoo

[HungusMaximist]

Learn the lesson, report it, make a whinge next time earlier and grab a handful of witness and whinge to them and afterwards grab their details so you can get them to whinge to your insurance or (god forbid) if it happens to go to court.

It's better for you in the long run to have a whole lot of back up than none.

But good on yah that you're O.K? Can we see some photos a bit later?

[Maha]

But good on yah that you're O.K? Can we see some photos a bit later?


Of jrandom's leg or the R1???

[Number One]

I'm with most everyone else.

The reality is you can't really afford to trust her and it is best to be safe than sorry I guess?

Sorry to hear - never a good buzz

[kiwifruit]

Best thing that could have happened to the fruits bike....... :shutup::bleh::whistle:

what!!!? :cry: :weep:

[boomer]

Hey J Random fella.... If you're insured on my Gixxer, do you want it?!

:chase:




Poor Allan, i 'spose the $10 down and a chase around wasn't what it lived up to be huh ??!!

[breakaway]

It's a shame, because, all things considered, I'd rather not make the lady's life any more difficult;

I admire that, but the reality is, screw her. It's up to you to watch out for shit from your end. Report her. Should have been paying attention. Now there are going to be consequences.

[jrandom]

Hey J Random fella.... If you're insured on my Gixxer, do you want it?!

Actually...

No.

I've had quite enough of 160hp superbikes in traffic in the rain, thank you very much.

:crazy:

[Katman]

May 2008 just ain't my month, is it?

Ouch, hot..... Ouch, hot..... Ouch, hot..... Ouch, hot...........

:msn-wink:

[R6_kid]

road rules says you have to, does it not? :mellow:

[CookMySock]

All non injury vehicle accidents must be reported by parties involved to their nearest police station within 48 hrs.I THINK this is incorrect. All injury accidents must be.

IMO. YMMV.

DB

[BiK3RChiK]

Did you get details of witnesses? or did none stop?

Hope you got it sorted mate. And aren't feeling too sore!

[kiwifruit]

i'd report it, a conviction against the other driver would help the insurance claim no end
you don't have to tho....

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roadcode/about-driver-responsibility/crashes.html
If you are involved in a crash while driving, and you are not badly injured, the first thing you must do is stop and check to see if anyone is hurt, and provide assistance.

If someone is hurt, you must tell a police officer as soon as possible and no later than 24 hours after the crash.

If no one is hurt, you must give your name, address and vehicle registration (and, if asked, the name and address of the owner of the vehicle you are driving, if it isn't your vehicle) as soon as possible but no later than 48 hours after the crash to:

* the owner or driver of any other vehicle that has been damaged
* the owner of any property that has been damaged.

If you can't find these people, you must tell a police officer as soon as possible and no later than 60 hours after the crash.

If your vehicle is insured, tell your insurance company as soon as possible after the crash.

[nodrog]

last time i got entered in the anus with no lube at the traffic lights, rang the cops at the scene just to be on the safe side, and they couldnt even be bothered driving 400 metres up the road to check it out.

they said if nobody is, hurt / drunk / or on P, just let insurance sort it out, and they took no details.

[scrivy]

what!!!? :cry: :weep:

Dude... I meant it in the nicest possible way..... Now I know I can beat you around the lake......:bleh::whistle:

[homer]

OK. I guess I'll pop down t'station in the morning and have a good old whinge.

It's a shame, because, all things considered, I'd rather not make the lady's life any more difficult; I expect she'll end up getting hit up for an insurance excess, etc, etc.

But I suppose one can never trust in human nature in such circumstances.

Sad world, innit?

dont feel bad , it could have been a boy racer ........she may actually be a boy racer ?
anyways if it was you that were in the car and her on the bike !!!!!
itd be a different story wouldnt it

[xgnr]

I may have missed something here but a most important point has not been addressed.

Was she a hottie?

[SixPackBack]

I may have missed something here but a most important point has not been addressed.

Was she a hottie?

Persactly and what happened after you took her on the bonnet:eek5:

[Cr1MiNaL]

I think katman likes Mr Random and Fruit is J.

[Katman]

I think katman likes Mr Random and Fruit is J.

I think you select words at random. :msn-wink:

Dan and I have images to uphold.

[jrandom]

Was she a hottie?

Yes.

And I have her number...

:D

[DingoZ]

I THINK this is incorrect. All injury accidents must be.

IMO. YMMV.

DB

What the hell would I know hey. I only work for the Police... So yeah what would I know

Reporting a crash
If you are involved in a crash while driving, and you are not badly injured, the first thing you must do is stop and check to see if anyone is hurt, and provide assistance.

If someone is hurt, you must tell a police officer as soon as possible and no later than 24 hours after the crash.

If no one is hurt, you must give your name, address and vehicle registration (and, if asked, the name and address of the owner of the vehicle you are driving, if it isn't your vehicle) as soon as possible but no later than 48 hours after the crash to:

the owner or driver of any other vehicle that has been damaged
the owner of any property that has been damaged.
If you can't find these people, you must tell a police officer as soon as possible and no later than 60 hours after the crash.

If your vehicle is insured, tell your insurance company as soon as possible after the crash.

[Toaster]

Bugger! My advice - always report to police and preferably have then turn up and file a crash report. That way the insurance companies know from the police point of view as to who was at fault after interviewing both drivers/witnesses/crash scene analysis (however basic or complex as circumstances and heat of doughnuts + BP coffee dictates) etc.

[Number One]

Bugger! My advice - always report to police and preferably have then turn up and file a crash report. That way the insurance companies know from the police point of view as to who was at fault after interviewing both drivers/witnesses/crash scene analysis (however basic or complex as circumstances and heat of doughnuts + BP coffee dictates) etc.
All I heard was donuts.......:drool:

What is for breakie today?

[scumdog]

Long story short?

A
I'm now wondering whether I shouldn't pop into a station and make some sort of report as insurance against getting fucked over by the oh-so-nice lady driver in question, who will undoubtedly, within the next day or two, act as they always do and start loudly claiming that none of it was her fault.

Would anyone with relevant experience or expertise care to contribute informed commentary on the matter?

Ta in advance.

:sunny:

Amazing how 'oh-so-nice' people like this can have a sudden change of mind after they get home and hubby climbs into them for admitting fault and convinces them it 'woulda been that idiot on the motorbikes fault':(

So reporting asap is always your best bet - even if only to placate insurance company.

[kiwifruit]

I think katman likes Mr Random and Fruit is J.

<img src="http://www.healthbolt.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/huh.jpg">

[Katman]

I'm the good looking one. :msn-wink:

[scrivy]

[QUOTE=kiwifruit;1572726[/QUOTE]

Fark dude!!! That picture of the two munters would make ya wanna turn gay would it not???





NOT!!!!

[Marmoot]

Did you get details of witnesses? or did none stop?

Hope you got it sorted mate. And aren't feeling too sore!

I wouldn't worry about the cops, but I'd definitely get some witnesses and their written+signed statements as soon as possible.

Normally you can interview them to ascertain their views, inform them that you would type up the statement yourself to that effect (because they won't be bothered to write it) and visit them afterwards to get their signatures.

Give this to the insurance or keep it to yourself until dispute comes.

If there is no dispute and she's a hottie, a hit back is fair game.

[Blue Thunder]

Tell the cops, too many cage drivers are getting away with carving up riders and getting away with it. If she's in the wrong then she should be made to pay for her acyions, might make her look twice next time and prevent someone else getting banged up.

[imdying]

last time i got entered in the anus with no lube at the traffic lights, rang the cops at the scene just to be on the safe side, and they couldnt even be bothered driving 400 metres up the road to check it out.

they said if nobody is, hurt / drunk / or on P, just let insurance sort it out, and they took no details.
111: Police / ambulance / fire
You: Police
Police operator: Sup?
You: MVA at blah blah blah
111 operator: Is anyone hurt?
You: I don't know

And basically lead the conversation with non committal answers from then on... if there's a chance someone is injured, they'll rock on up... you have to say that someone is, that'd be a lie, just say that you're not sure but someone might be.

[Ixion]

Just tell them the rider is lying in the middle of the road making terrible noises. Which is almost certainly true at some point, though the terrible noises may be wrath rather than pain.

[more_fasterer]

Arseballs. Apparently bad luck comes in threes... what's the third? The camry donuts don't count as you were let off :innocent:

[Toaster]

All I heard was donuts.......:drool:

What is for breakie today?

Funny you should say that, I had a cream doughnut for morning tea :) mmmm

[Pussy]

Funny you should say that, I had a cream doughnut for morning tea :) mmmm

Was that to remind you of your days in the force ,Toaster? :bleh:

[Toaster]

Was that to remind you of your days in the force ,Toaster? :bleh:

Nah.... that was McDonalds bagels at 7am.... mmmmmm

I just licking the cream out. ;)

[Number One]

Nah.... that was McDonalds bagels at 7am.... mmmmmm

I just licking the cream out. ;)
I gonna get me a donut tomorrow and you can bet I be licking the cream out :shifty:

[kiwifruit]

I gonna get me a donut tomorrow and you can bet I be licking the cream out :shifty:

oh my!!! :eek:

[Toaster]

I gonna get me a donut tomorrow and you can bet I be licking the cream out :shifty:

Oh I am sure you will !! :lol::blink:;)

[Number One]

:laugh: 9.30 isn't too early for cream donuts is it?

Oh well too bad...I'm off to get them now...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Str8 Jacket]

:laugh: 9.30 isn't too early for cream donuts is it?

Oh well too bad...I'm off to get them now...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Well considering that this morning I have already had 2 mince savouries, a McD's bagel and a custard square I think you'll be OK! :yes:

[Number One]

Crikey!!!

I feel positively angelic now ;)

[Number One]

That were some damn fine cream...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I like it like that............oooooooooooooooooooo..........YES! YES! YES!!!

:lol:

[90s]

Its all gone pastry ...

[SPman]

I've had quite enough of 160hp superbikes in traffic in the rain, thank you very much.

:crazy:
Jeez maritime........

ever thought of going back to an FXR!.......or a nice little Zeal!

[jrandom]

ever thought of going back to an FXR!.......or a nice little Zeal!

I'm having great fun commuting on an EL250 at the moment.

:yes:

Probably shoulda just done that to start with...

[peasea]

Jeez maritime........

ever thought of going back to an FXR!.......or a nice little Zeal!

I had an FXR, go for it!