View Full Version : SV1000S .. I must be a soft cock
rocketman1
20th May 2008, 19:51
Just got back from quick flick around the Coro-loop on the SV.
Cant hardly believe the mileage I'm getting. 49mpg or 17-18km/L
Thats just one full tank, 17L and 7 litres to top it up when I get home after doing 416km.
This is the 3rd check on fuel I've done and I constantly get this economy on long runs, I dont figure im going slow but in saying that I don't often rev it above 5-5500rpm, mind you thats 140 kmh in top gear, not that you get much time in 6th gear on the loop, a fair bit of 1st / 2nd gear stuff at times
I know you can talk about fuel consumption till the cows get home, but just wondering what other 1000cc V-twins bikes are getting to the litre/ mpg
I was always told I could expect to get 35-40mpg, maybe Im am a soft cock and not riding the bike to its limit, but I guess would have to be hammering it to get down to 35-40Mpg.
PS. no other vehicle / bike passed me all day, so I wasn't going that slow.
98tls
20th May 2008, 20:01
:confused:Congrats on the money your saving mate but bugger that,bit harder with the wrist and i think you will find it drops dramatically,although a little different than the TL the SV responds well to the "Give it shit theory" and imho a much better ride.Fwiw the TL is a sack of shite until about 6500 rpm then it sings.
wayne708
20th May 2008, 20:04
Got very similar mileage out of mine on the weekend with a run over the Rimutakas, back roads of the Wairarapa, over the Pahiatua track and back down state hwy 1 to Wellington. Mind you was travelling by myself so no one to help push things along. Oh and no one overtook me either.
Jacko2
20th May 2008, 20:06
I'm getting 16-17 km/ltr commuting and 17-18 km/ltr touring.
Use engine breaking a lot (prob too much, luv the torque and backfire)
Have dropped in km/per ltr, though I think that was me being a nanna when I first got "Te Beast".
Hard acceleration seems to use more juice.
98tls
20th May 2008, 20:13
Hard acceleration seems to use more juice. :rolleyes:Really,go figure.J/K mate couldnt help myself.
Jacko2
20th May 2008, 20:16
:rolleyes:Really,go figure.J/K mate couldnt help myself.
Yeah, DAHHHHH.
Realised soon as I pushed 'submit'
Haha
paturoa
20th May 2008, 20:25
17km/l commuting in dorkers, 20 for spirited touring and in between for "rides".
CookMySock
20th May 2008, 20:26
the good fuel economy seems to be a "vtwin" thing. My GT650R does nearly 70mpg. Probably because ya don't have to rev it to get the job done, and coz its so much fun short-shifting it through the torque you do it all the time anyway.
DB
98tls
20th May 2008, 20:38
the good fuel economy seems to be a "vtwin" thing. My GT650R does nearly 70mpg. Probably because ya don't have to rev it to get the job done, and coz its so much fun short-shifting it through the torque you do it all the time anyway.
DB :Oi:This i dont understand at all.To get the best out of any V-twin sports bike its all about revs.My TLS has dismal fuel economy but in some ways i would be disappointed if it did.:rolleyes:
McJim
20th May 2008, 20:38
Hmmm - I'm getting about 15-17km/litre from my little 600...but then I just pin the throttle most of the time....
Jacko2
20th May 2008, 20:38
Who do you guys use for servicing in Dorkland?
About to do 24k service. Can do it all myself, but if I find valve clearance out, won't touch shimming.
Thanks for any refs. in advance.
homer
20th May 2008, 20:45
with in reason its a simple thing , fuel in power out
munterk6
20th May 2008, 20:49
I use to tour with a mate on a TL S, he was using 10 -15% more fue than me consistently....I was on a 148hp GSXR1100 at the time and we were NOT fucking around! He actually ran out of fuel 20kms out of Springs Junction(Lewis Pass) and I had to go pickup fuel for him!!! not impressed.......
98tls
20th May 2008, 20:55
with in reason its a simple thing , fuel in power out As you say mate "within reason" chuck all the fuel in you like but if nothing is done to the airbox and exhaust you achieve absolutly nothing.Likewise the claims from some exhaust makers is absurd as in "simply bolt this on and blah blah blah hp increase"without attending to the other end its rubbish,only a very small increase will be made,cause im a sad old bugger with two much time on my hands and a Yosh ecu adjuster ive spent hours mucking about....the yosh box is a fairly basic thing and its all seat of the pants stuff but cans/full system/filters etc to me seem hardly worth it if only one is done.
98tls
20th May 2008, 20:58
I use to tour with a mate on a TL S, he was using 10 -15% more fue than me consistently....I was on a 148hp GSXR1100 at the time and we were NOT fucking around! He actually ran out of fuel 20kms out of Springs Junction(Lewis Pass) and I had to go pickup fuel for him!!! not impressed....... :laugh:when the light stops flashing on an S its time to worry.Nice post enjoyed that.
homer
20th May 2008, 20:59
As you say mate "within reason" chuck all the fuel in you like but if nothing is done to the airbox and exhaust you achieve absolutly nothing.Likewise the claims from some exhaust makers is absurd as in "simply bolt this on and blah blah blah hp increase"without attending to the other end its rubbish,only a very small increase will be made,cause im a sad old bugger with two much time on my hands and a Yosh ecu adjuster ive spent hours mucking about....the yosh box is a fairly basic thing and its all seat of the pants stuff but cans/full system/filters etc to me seem hardly worth it if only one is done.
yep +1 exactly
arj127
20th May 2008, 21:06
yeah i get 18/19k a litre out of my thow aswell, cant be fucked riding it at warp speed anyway, hurts to much when u get pinged.
arj127
20th May 2008, 21:08
sorry, just had a recalc, i get 16.6l k, maybe i'm not such a nana afterall!
HornetBoy
20th May 2008, 21:19
Presently only getting about 15km per liter on the kat :mad: but thats what you get when you pin the throttle :2guns: so im not complaining ;)
98tls
20th May 2008, 21:24
yeah i get 18/19k a litre out of my thow aswell, cant be fucked riding it at warp speed anyway, hurts to much when u get pinged. Thats just it really,there at there best on roads were big speed isnt an option but theres plenty fun to be had at huge rpms in 1st,2nd,3rd gears.:2thumbsup
CookMySock
20th May 2008, 21:25
:Oi:This i dont understand at all.To get the best out of any V-twin sports bike its all about revsWell I dont understand that at all either. Must be apples and oranges. My vtwin runs great between 5 and 8k rpm. Mostly thats all I need.
DB
Brett
20th May 2008, 21:27
Well, on the other end of the scale...i recently got 85kms out of a tank on my gsxr 600. Yes it was a full tank. It was also at a track day, so I doubt it could get much more thirsty than that. Best I can get out of a tank is 220kms. What good is petrol if it isn't being burnt?
HungusMaximist
20th May 2008, 21:43
Gotta give to ya the Hyosungs got really good fuel consumption as I've owned a GT250 and I get around 450 km to a tank and some people even claim 500 km.
Great for commuting but got no balls in general.
98tls
20th May 2008, 21:49
Well I dont understand that at all either. Must be apples and oranges. My vtwin runs great between 5 and 8k rpm. Mostly thats all I need.
DB Fair call then,mines just a lazy old bastard that needs a whipping to wake it up.;)
glice
20th May 2008, 21:54
I've been down to 14-15k/L on my 250, but that was on a track.
megageoff76
20th May 2008, 21:58
Cant hardly believe the mileage I'm getting. 49mpg or 17-18km/L-40Mpg.
I wouldn't be complaining about that, the best I can get is 13km/L and thats when im gentle on the throttle too. Guess its about time I got all modern and bought a bike with fuel injection.
Pommie Boy
20th May 2008, 22:02
I'm only just beginning to realise how bad the Firestorm is for fuel effeciency after reading your fellas posts - most I've ever got out of a tank is 200km on the open road and she was running on fumes by then end! Mind you, I knew that when I bought it! :doh:
Pumba
20th May 2008, 22:09
Best milage I got out of the SV was about 220km to reserve.
Got about 170km-180km out of a tank comuting
Worst on road milage was was about 140km-150km (Crown Range:clap: it was worht it)
Worst ever was a track day at Taupo, about 90km (very well woth it)
Mike748
20th May 2008, 22:25
My bike has just had new tyres and some work done, took it out this weekend to scrub the tyres in and got 136km before the fuel light came on.:blink:
The bike is running heaps smoother so I'm using more revs, but I'm gonna have to do a fuel run or two to check these figures or I'm gonna be walking for gas sometime soon. I previously used 180km to (fuel light on) as a benchmark.
Pwalo
21st May 2008, 07:29
My SV can get 60-70mpg pretty easily. Mind you that might have something to do with it being a 650 instead of a 1000, and I'm not a big bloke (which probably helps as well).
awayatc
21st May 2008, 07:46
15 liter tank of my 650 cc Aprillia Pegaso usualy only gets me about 200 km. Have never been disciplined enough to nana through a whole tank, but doubt it could get much more out of it....
jrandom
21st May 2008, 07:50
GSX-R1000 K2, 16km/L
2007 R1, 13km/L
GSX1400K7, 14km/L (10km/L when I'm using the throttle a bit, 8km/L at trackdays)
Sounds to me like the SVs can be pretty frugal.
Anyway, I'm off to ride to work on the Mighty EL250 - 30km/L!
HornetBoy
21st May 2008, 07:54
GSX-R1000 K2, 16km/L
:gob: Thats better milage than my kat
jrandom
21st May 2008, 07:56
:gob: Thats better milage than my kat
Yup. Surprising, aye?
Obviously that's for restrained highway cruising under the ton, but still, not too bad for a ronkin stonkin superbike IMHO. I do love the K2s.
Edit: Your Kat's aircooled, like my GSX1400. Those particular Suzuki engines seem to have the characteristic of delivering gorgeous smooth power, lasting forever, and being anything but frugal on the gas.
HornetBoy
21st May 2008, 08:04
Yup. Surprising, aye?
Obviously that's for restrained highway cruising under the ton, but still, not too bad for a ronkin stonkin superbike IMHO. I do love the K2s.
Heck yea ,i mean i get that just on the highway lol.
Cant imagine what id get on the track ,not shocking to look down and see the fuel light on at about 150kms out of a 18ltr tank in the twisties :buggerd:
FzerozeroT
21st May 2008, 08:43
wanna swap? I don't get much more than 10 k/L
CookMySock
21st May 2008, 09:01
Fair call then,mines just a lazy old bastard that needs a whipping to wake it up.;)hah, you know you want to though, lol
DB
vifferman
21st May 2008, 10:52
the good fuel economy seems to be a "vtwin" thing.
Must be.
I used to get ... oooh... as much as 30mpg on the VTR1000, but 28 was more typical.... :pinch:
Dazza
21st May 2008, 16:04
Dang, I'm getting 10km/ltr & with a 15ltr tank fuel stops are planned with great precision :yes:
Ryan432
21st May 2008, 17:51
I get about 15.9k/l before reserve on normal fuel and about 17.5-19k/l on mobil 8000. Thats riding mostly commuting with the occasional thrash thrown in when I get the time. Mines a 2003 naked.
maybe Im am a soft cock and not riding the bike to its limit, but I guess would have to be hammering it to get down to 35-40Mpg.
PS. no other vehicle / bike passed me all day, so I wasn't going that slow.
If you dont slow down for the corners you
1. go fast
AND
2. use less gas
Jacko2
21st May 2008, 21:21
If you dont slow down for the corners you
1. go fast
AND
2. use less gas
I like the way you think
Danboy
21st May 2008, 21:36
I get about 220k's out of my RF600. 17 litre tank too. :eek5:
dipshit
22nd May 2008, 16:26
:Oi:This i dont understand at all.To get the best out of any V-twin sports bike its all about revs.
You also said... "Fwiw the TL is a sack of shite until about 6500 rpm then it sings"
My SV with the yoshies on is quite rideable down as low as 3500 rpm.
Suzuki sacrificed a few top-end hp to give the SVs more low-end and midrange power from the TL by reducing the size of the intake valves from 40mm to 36mm and changing cam profile other such things.
http://motorcycledaily.com/01july03_2003suzuki_sv1000.htm
Having more low-end and midrange is going to make the power delivery feel more bland because you don't get a sudden rush at 6500.
98tls
22nd May 2008, 18:52
You also said... "Fwiw the TL is a sack of shite until about 6500 rpm then it sings"
My SV with the yoshies on is quite rideable down as low as 3500 rpm.
Suzuki sacrificed a few top-end hp to give the SVs more low-end and midrange power from the TL by reducing the size of the intake valves from 40mm to 36mm and changing cam profile other such things.
http://motorcycledaily.com/01july03_2003suzuki_sv1000.htm
Having more low-end and midrange is going to make the power delivery feel more bland because you don't get a sudden rush at 6500. Rather have it my way thanks.:Punk:Whatever they did didnt work as low end the SV doesnt leave the TL behind, thought 6500 was midrange:yawn:
rocketman1
22nd May 2008, 19:44
From discussions with other SV Riders it appears while brisk touring ,as long as you keep it below about 6000rpm which is still bloody quick on a SV, you can get damn good fuel consumption. Anything over the max torque range of about 7000rpm it appears to drink it
Interesting to see that none of the carburetted Firestorm boys can get near that mark of 49-50mpg, guess it must be something to do with the more modern fuel injection system the SV has, because at the end of the day both bikes weigh about the same and same size motors, both 6 speed V1000 twins
In any case who cares they are both great V-twins, and whats a few dollars in gas between freinds when you are having that much fun.
megageoff76
22nd May 2008, 19:56
Anyone know what sort of mileage you can get out of a TRX850?
best i have had from the TL is @ 250ks thats @ 15km/ l
Sully One
22nd May 2008, 20:10
Mum said I should ask you what a soft cock is :confused:
Kwaka14
22nd May 2008, 20:17
ZX14 306km to 20.5l of fuel, was 2 up in the deep south nana'ing it everywhere, thirsty bugger when you ride it normally..... wish I was getting better fuel economy.
paturoa
22nd May 2008, 20:18
From discussions with other SV Riders it appears while brisk touring ,as long as you keep it below about 6000rpm which is still bloody quick on a SV, you can get damn good fuel consumption.
yeah - last year from Haast to Hokitika travelling at about 110ks with my lard arse and a whole bunch of luggage, I used just over 13 litres for what from memory was about 280km.
vifferman
23rd May 2008, 12:12
Interesting to see that none of the carburetted Firestorm boys can get near that mark of 49-50mpg
Yeessssss....
I think it must be those 48mm carbies - they have a strong gravitational pull near the bellmouth, that sucks in lots of fuel, air, small animals and children.... It doesn't make for good fuel economy at all.
Here's an example: on other bikes, I used to be able to nurse the engine for anything up to a couple of kilometres once the fuel tank was nearly empty. On the Fahrtsturm, it stopped within seconds of the first splutter. At the gas station, it was obvious it had sucked every last poofteenth of fuel, as it took about 600ml more to fill the tank than the quoted volume. Apparently the lines and bowls were dry as a bone.
But at least (unlike the VFR750) it was easy to start once refilled. The VFR had this stupid fuel pump that didn't work unless the engine was running, and inhibited fuel flow from the tank to the carbs when it wasn't.
imdying
23rd May 2008, 12:50
Yep, will definitely be injection on any VTR replacement! 54mm throttle bodies on the 05- SV1k, and much better mileage at cruise so I'm told. But, if you're giving it plenty, then they'll both drink unleaded like a whore skulls cheap red wine.
festus
23rd May 2008, 13:06
best i have had from the TL is @ 250ks thats @ 15km/ l
I agree. I'm lucky to get 200-220. You're not pushing the SV if you're getting that kind of mileage dude(s).......
im only getting 240km out of 17 ltrs on my bike, tho i treat every set of lights like a drag strip - first to the speed limit wins kind of thing. Im thinking the best id get out of the 21ltr tank would be about 300km and that would be taking it easy. Not quite the range i was hoping for in a sport tourer.
Phurrball
24th May 2008, 17:58
Yeessssss....
I think it must be those 48mm carbies - they have a strong gravitational pull near the bellmouth, that sucks in lots of fuel, air, small animals and children.... It doesn't make for good fuel economy at all.(snippy)
Yes - profligate fuel quaffing über-carbs indeed. Could hear the greedy beasts clamour for juice with every opening of the throttle.
Even when being as gentle as a kitten, I only managed 40mpg at best. But, oh, the gorgeous popping and symphony of demons changing down through the gears on the overrun made the extra fuel bill worth it.:love:
Damn, I'm gona miss that 'storm.
Still more efficient than a single person in a fairly modest car though!:shit:
Pussy
24th May 2008, 18:46
Mum said I should ask you what a soft cock is :confused:
Just imagine trying to put an oyster in a parking meter :msn-wink:
On topic... Gassit Girl was getting about 62mpg out of her K5 SV650, with a custom mapped power commander fitted
So what you're all saying is that I am only going to notice a slight difference when I step off my 250 single, at around 25km/L for the last 2+ years, and get me a SV1000 or even worse ( but better bike (?) ) TL? Don't worry, petrol is cheaper is Australia ( hopefully ).
dipshit
25th May 2008, 12:33
So what you're all saying is that I am only going to notice a slight difference when I step off my 250 single, at around 25km/L
I wouldn't call going from your 25km/L to 16km/L only a slight difference.
n0regret5
25th May 2008, 13:32
the TL is a sack of shite until about 6500 rpm then it sings.
very true..found this out when i power-wheelied in 2nd the other day..:lol:
SV's seem to go much farther on a tank (notwithstanding the tank size difference with TL's) anyway, must be some clever tuning. or you're not riding hard enough..
Dazza
26th May 2008, 08:58
yeah - last year from Haast to Hokitika travelling at about 110ks with my lard arse and a whole bunch of luggage, I used just over 13 litres for what from memory was about 280km.Funny you should mention that, last June from Fox to Greymouth used all of my 15ltrs 6k's South of Greymouth,Dulp, knew I should've filled up it Hokitika(weren't mucking around though) :whistle:
mitchilin
28th May 2008, 18:51
For what it's worth I can get the same mileage out of the EB Falcon as the TLS.Shocking really, but it shows how much more development Suzuki got out of the fuel injection.(And Ford for that matter)Riding for economy on the TL feels stupid.Sixth ,at revs that doesn't feel like its labouring ,is license losing territory.With todays price of gas I'm a little jealous that an SV is that much more economical.Twenty years ago I was comparing the economy of my Z1000R against my Vauxhall Viva and the mileage is similar.
imdying
29th May 2008, 07:58
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SlmerTS9Bf8 <-- Ignore the fluffed start by the SV, this is where the extra $8k for the busa goes best :yes:
Kai790
9th June 2008, 11:07
Just got back from quick flick around the Coro-loop on the SV.
Cant hardly believe the mileage I'm getting. 49mpg or 17-18km/L
Thats just one full tank, 17L and 7 litres to top it up when I get home after doing 416km.
This is the 3rd check on fuel I've done and I constantly get this economy on long runs, I dont figure im going slow but in saying that I don't often rev it above 5-5500rpm, mind you thats 140 kmh in top gear, not that you get much time in 6th gear on the loop, a fair bit of 1st / 2nd gear stuff at times
I know you can talk about fuel consumption till the cows get home, but just wondering what other 1000cc V-twins bikes are getting to the litre/ mpg
I was always told I could expect to get 35-40mpg, maybe Im am a soft cock and not riding the bike to its limit, but I guess would have to be hammering it to get down to 35-40Mpg.
PS. no other vehicle / bike passed me all day, so I wasn't going that slow.
I get only 13 – 15km/L on my SV1000S when commuting. I got an all time best of 18km/L recently when going up from Wellington to Turangi, but this was on a very sedate trip with a friend who has recently passed his test. It felt a bit odd to be riding so slowly, instead of giving it some. It did leave plenty of time to admire the scenery, and I must admit I quite enjoyed it.
slofox
9th June 2008, 15:17
I get only 13 – 15km/L on my SV1000S when commuting. I got an all time best of 18km/L recently when going up from Wellington to Turangi, but this was on a very sedate trip with a friend who has recently passed his test. It felt a bit odd to be riding so slowly, instead of giving it some. It did leave plenty of time to admire the scenery, and I must admit I quite enjoyed it.
23km/l on 07 SV650S.....mix of commuting and hooning.......:lol:
rocketman1
10th June 2008, 17:56
18km/L is OK but 23km/L is making me jealous, mind you I have a XL250 Honda and that is bloody amazing, never done a test on it but seems to work out to about 1L/ per hour of travelling, must be at least 60-70km /L, but they say you pay for power, and that bike doesn't have much. But for commuting around town its just great, what with petrol $2.09/litre
Blackshear
10th June 2008, 19:59
Well I don't count. I'm not a litre, or a cruiser.
And it was my first ever full tank of gas. :niceone:
202k's out of a 14L tank.
14.5 k's/L
I recall someone saying bandits are thirsty?
Seriously. Wtf.
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