Should diesel vehicles be banned? - Poll

[TOTO]

I was riding behind quite a few Diesel 4WDs today and trucks. Had to keep overtaking because the smoke was unberable. I would be quite happy with no diesel vehicles on the road.

Here is a Poll - Vote.

[LilSel]

No.... my work vehicle is a diesel....

but they should do that 0800 SMOKY thing again where you can report excessive smoke... I hate being behind a dunger that smokes!! chokes ya up!!

Not all diesels are bad... my ute doesnt smoke :)

diesels up over $1.70 now... eeeek... lucky I dont pay for it lol

[HornetBoy]

On the basis of them exhausting more smoke ...no

On the basis the bloody great 4WD's seem to get parked on the corners of intersections and cause you to have to edge into the middle of the road just to see whats coming ....yes! :oi-grr:


Another pole,Another pole plz :lol:

[smokeyging]

these new diesels today they have them fairly good, they don't smoke anymore. i'd imagine an old motor that has'nt been serviced should be kicked off the road.

[nallac]

gotta say no to that one.
the misus drives a 4x4 diesel wagon.
can't afford a v8 anymore.

its called freedom of choice.

[Usarka]

The diesel in this country is SHIT quality.

Ride over in europe or similar and you'd see a hooooooooooje difference.

It always gets me that buses are so "good" but they put out 100x more visible pollutants - that shit can't be good for your lungs.

[PirateJafa]

No.

Diesels are fudging useful.

But everything to it's place.

And unfortunately the place a lot of diesels should be going is straight for a tune-up.

[LilSel]

these new diesels today they have them fairly good, they don't smoke anymore. i'd imagine an old motor that has'nt been serviced should be kicked off the road.

I concur!!... mine is a 2005 n its sweet... no smoke!... :)
(2008 soon!!!! yeeeeehaaaaaa!!!)

[mowgli]

No they shouldn't be banned but failure to service injectors at appropriate intevals should result in mechanical disablement. Oh yeah, and fuel tank overflows should go into a collector bottle not onto the road.

[glice]

heck no. deisels arent that bad. judging all deisels on the few is like saying all motorcyclists are hoons and shit heads.

[Usarka]

heck no. deisels arent that bad. judging all deisels on the few is like saying all motorcyclists are hoons and shit heads.

exactly! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Mike748]

Diesels make excellent tow vehicles, and there is nothing wrong with a modern well serviced diesel.

Any smoking vehicle should be kicked off the road, I have seen a heap of smokey petrols lately that should be failing a WOF.

[glice]

I cant wait for deisel bikes to get more popular. Imagine that for a commuter bike, you would save so much!

[Pumba]

I cant wait for deisel bikes to get more popular. Imagine that for a commuter bike, you would save so much!

You obviously arnt familiar with Road User Charges, the govt all ways gets its tax and just because it is cheaper at the pump doesnt mean that they are cheaper to run.

Modern deisels are highly efficent, and as long as they are serviced regulary they are fine (reminds me to go book in a service for the ute)

[CookMySock]

aren't laggy diesel vehicles the only things 250's can pass ? Really.. half the fun of bikes is passin stuff.

DB

[dangerous]

I was riding behind quite a few Diesel 4WDs today and trucks. Had to keep overtaking because the smoke was unberable. I would be quite happy with no diesel vehicles on the road.

Here is a Poll - Vote.

Its not the diesels that need banning but the owners for not being a responsible owner and keeping them tuned (diesel pump, injectors and clean oil)

If i start seeing smoke in my mirrors I run a bottle of injector cleaner, injectors have been done.

Now lets get serious here.... should we ban blowhard drifting boy racer homo's? :yes:

[Subike]

The more Diesel's on the road the better.
Especially if the Police have them issued to them.
Think about it.
Diesel Cage verses Bike?
Who is going to get out of the trouble spot faster?
yeap more diesels, more fuel availabile for bikes.
Put all the cagers into busses and trains, leave to roads to us . Yeah!

[nallac]

should we ban blowhard drifting boy racer homo's?[/B] :yes:

wot only the homo ones?, not all of em?....

[Usarka]

wot only the homo ones?, not all of em?....

'cause you might want to root the ones that arent homos.......:buggerd:

[nallac]

oh.. ok.:eek5:
shit i forgot i own a honda now.:bash:

[glice]

You obviously arnt familiar with Road User Charges, the govt all ways gets its tax and just because it is cheaper at the pump doesnt mean that they are cheaper to run.

Modern deisels are highly efficent, and as long as they are serviced regulary they are fine (reminds me to go book in a service for the ute)

yea i am. I own a deisel car!
but you get more out of a litre of deisel than petrol. generally.

[cowpoos]

I was riding behind quite a few Diesel 4WDs today and trucks. Had to keep overtaking because the smoke was unberable. I would be quite happy with no diesel vehicles on the road.

Here is a Poll - Vote.

I would be quite happy if people like you stopped posting the dumbest threads!! shit you would have to be a labour voter or a uni student!!! Your a very silly boy if your not...a massive part of our contrys economy rests on that very fossil fuel!! I think you should harden up...and shut up...or give up bikes!!

[awayatc]

yea i am. I own a deisel car!
but you get more out of a litre of deisel than petrol. generally.

They sell deisel? at the potrel stotian? :banana:

[Mikkel]

It's only old crappy diesel engines that are a problem.

All new diesels (TDI, etc.) observe modern emission standards. Diesel engines are still one of the most efficient (if indeed not the most efficient) engine design to date. There is no viable alternative...

No, diesels should not be banned.

[Hinny]

Diesels might put out more particulates but their gas emissions are not as bad as those from petrol engines.

[fergie]

I love diesels, {notice how the word die sel is spelt}?

[Badjelly]

heck no. deisels arent that bad. judging all deisels on the few is like saying all motorcyclists are hoons and shit heads.
And your point is ...?

[Toaster]

Its not the diesels that need banning but the owners for not being a responsible owner and keeping them tuned (diesel pump, injectors and clean oil)

If i start seeing smoke in my mirrors I run a bottle of injector cleaner, injectors have been done.

Now lets get serious here.... should we ban blowhard drifting boy racer homo's? :yes:

Well said Dangerous - ban those little tossers. As far as the trucks etc go, I have had a few days riding to work where I felt sick after being fumed out on the way down the motorway.

It seems some of these new diesel cars are pretty "clean" compared to older ones. Not sure though of the benefits once you pay for RUC on top of the fuel then add in the high cost of servicing a diesel car.. I wonder if they really are worth it in the end.

[James Deuce]

Hey Toto! Do you write the Stuff polls? Because they're about as well thought out as this one.

[007XX]

What should be banned are morons with diesels not looking after them properly...

007XY has got a system going on his Series 80 Landcruiser which injects a small amount of LPG into the burning chamber of the diesel (or somewhat...gawd knows, I'm a chick alright!), which means he gets more boost (:Punk:), and the diesel burns a lot better, reducing the emissions of his vehicle :niceone:

Being an engineer, and very conscious of the environment (without being a tree hugger), he is always making sure things run smoothly. He's also considering getting his whole system transferred to LPG. Given how much the price of fuel is getting to be, it'll be worth the change over.

[EJK]

BAN THEM! They create diesel spills on the road!

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OK this is a bit off topic but.... Srsly WTF is a diesel???? Some says "Aah the diesel got me! I binned" etc but.... I don't know if I've even seen it! WTF is a diesel! :laugh:

[vifferman]

I dunno which is worse - a badly maintained diesel, or a crapped-out petrol engine burning heaps of oil. Either way, I *hate* following them. But ban diesels? No.
Modern, well-maintained diesel-engined vehicles are actually a very sensible solution for NZ.

[Laava]

How do you think your petrol gets to the pumps? Getting towed in a tanker trailer by some pimply faced school leaver in a $300 323 with $1500 worth of wheels? No, it's brought to you courtesy of diesel. Oh and plus I have a diesel ute so of course I'm pro diesel!

[Swoop]

Geeze.

Why not start a thread on "Ban 2-smokes"?

[brendonjw]

No way, not with some of the small efficient diesel cars coming out of europe these days, now if it was a poll banning 4X4's on urban roads then hell yes

[Quasievil]

Diesels are what trucks use and trucks keep the country going completely, everything your little hands touch was on a truck, even your motorbikes, no trucks equals nothing, no bikes no food no beer (yes beer)

Get use to it, they aint going no where

[SPman]

In Europe, some companies now make and sell more Diesel powered cars than petrol powered, and the new high performance diesels are capable of outperforming their petrol equivalents.


If it just weren't so expensive..............

[koba]

Should motorcycles be banned?

[James Deuce]

Should motorcycles be banned?

Repost. There's a search engine you know.

[bungbung]

Euro diesels, I was in Vienna a few weeks ago. I think there was a even split petrol/diesel amongst the cars, maybe even higher in favour of diesel.

[boomer]

I would be quite happy if people like you stopped posting the dumbest threads!! shit you would have to be a labour voter or a uni student!!! Your a very silly boy if your not...a massive part of our contrys economy rests on that very fossil fuel!! I think you should harden up...and shut up...or give up bikes!!

you beat me too it Ryan.. he needs the attention because he's not very bright.

[boomer]

I was riding behind quite a few Diesel 4WDs today and trucks. Had to keep overtaking because the smoke was unberable. I would be quite happy with no diesel vehicles on the road.

Here is a Poll - Vote.


You, in my opinion, are an idjiot!

[Kickaha]

Diesels? I'll have one of these thanks
http://www.autosavant.net/2008/01/audi-shows-r8-v12-tdi-diesel-supercar.html

[Ixion]

Diesels are what trucks use and trucks keep the country going completely, everything your little hands touch was on a truck, even your motorbikes, no trucks equals nothing, no bikes no food no beer (yes beer)

Get use to it, they aint going no where

What's wrong with steam? Shitload of power in steam, pull any load.

[James Deuce]

Thank you for that "suggestion", Fat Controller.

[Quasievil]

What's wrong with steam? Shitload of power in steam, pull any load.

Nothing wrong with it dude, I prefer steam generation from nuclear energy to, bring on Nuclear energy !!:dodge:

[koba]

Should four stroke engines be banned?

Yes, i realise iim just being silly now..

[glice]

They sell deisel? at the potrel stotian? :banana:

Hi I'm glice, and I'm dyslexic. know me before you judge me.

[glice]

And your point is ...?


I thought it was obvious.

motorcyclists often get judged as all having a death wish, no?

I'm saying dont judge the few by the many.

[wickle]

You obviously arnt familiar with Road User Charges, the govt all ways gets its tax and just because it is cheaper at the pump doesnt mean that they are cheaper to run.

Modern deisels are highly efficent, and as long as they are serviced regulary they are fine (reminds me to go book in a service for the ute)
Running a diesel cant be that cheap now, diesel use to be about half the price of petrol now only a few cents behind, poor diesel owners cant afford to do servicing I supose!

[dangerous]

poor diesel owners cant afford to do servicing I supose!

Bloody diesel servicing costs are a mith, christ they go for ever, but it is importent to have fresh oil, as oil dilutes down with diesel... hell if anything its cheaper, not like ya hev to replace the spark plugs is it :yawn:

[Mikkel]

Should four stroke engines be banned?

Yes, i realise iim just being silly now..

Better yet, ban opinions... Would you not agree?

[koba]

Better yet, ban opinions... Would you not agree?

Opinion that aren't the same as ones own at least!

[Ixion]

Nothing wrong with it dude, I prefer steam generation from nuclear energy to, bring on Nuclear energy !!:dodge:

How y'going to shoehorn a nuclear powerplant into a bike frame, then? And won't it make WoFs expensive?

[Mikkel]

Opinion that aren't the same as ones own at least!

Now, that's one opinion... ;)

[kinger]

BAN THEM! They create diesel spills on the road!

Sorry, but they don't.
Humans ignoring the pump auto shutoff, topping off the tanks and filling up the designed expansion space in the tank cause spills.
I had to politely ask my local Caltex operator to not do it.