Looking for a new high quality back tyre. [Archive]

Ms Piggy

29th December 2004, 18:30

Stevo

29th December 2004, 22:18

Ok all you bike shops in Wgtn - I have a Honda CB250RS and I need a new rear tyre. It's 185x18 (according to the rim), so hopefully I got that right!

Who can do me the best deal on a tyre and fitting. I don't want crap either.

Cheers CSL.
You sure?????
A 250 with a 185 tyre????
Hate to break it to you but the BIG GRUNTERS have that size of tyre. My 250 has a 130. I know mine is a Yamaha and yours is a Honda. I think I would recheck the size though. The 750 you got as a chrissie prezzie might have a 185 on it??

Ms Piggy

29th December 2004, 22:19

You sure?????
A 250 with a 185 tyre????
Hate to break it to you but the BIG GRUNTERS have that size of tyre. My 250 has a 130. I know mine is a Yamaha and yours is a Honda. I think I would recheck the size though. The 750 you got as a chrissie prezzie might have a 185 on it??
Errrrrr, ummmmmm...well actually I got it wrong. I shall correct it and give to tyre size not the rim size tomorrow. :Oops:

riffer

29th December 2004, 22:30

Errrrrr, ummmmmm...well actually I got it wrong. I shall correct it and give to tyre size not the rim size tomorrow. :Oops:

1.85 is the rim size in inches, Cathy.

The tyre size is 4.10 x 18. (Bridgestone call it a 4.10S 18 4PR)

Ms Piggy

29th December 2004, 22:40

1.85 is the rim size in inches, Cathy.

The tyre size is 4.10 x 18. (Bridgestone call it a 4.10S 18 4PR)
Thanks Simon :pinch: I had it pointed out to me that I'd put the rim size - don't all laugh at once! :killingme I'll have a good laugh at myself!

Bonez

30th December 2004, 05:53

1.85 is the rim size in inches, Cathy.

The tyre size is 4.10 x 18. (Bridgestone call it a 4.10S 18 4PR)According to the OEM Manual 4.00S18 are the correct size. 4.00,4.10, 100 or 110s should be ok. 4.10 Shenkos should be fine for the RS. I'm fitting one to the 550 at the mo just to see how it goes.

What?

30th December 2004, 06:00

4.10 Shenkos should be ok for the RS. I'm fitting one to the 550 at the mo just to see how it goes. 110 should be ok too if you can get hold of any. Try not to over tyre it.
Let us know, Bonez. A mate of mine in the trade refuses to stock them...

Personally CSL, I would go for a Metzeler ME77 rear and ME33 front.

Bonez

30th December 2004, 06:15

Let us know, Bonez. A mate of mine in the trade refuses to stock them...
Personally CSL, I would go for a Metzeler ME77 rear and ME33 front. Sure will. Like your choice btw. Fitted them for years on my ol plonkers. I spoke to a local small m/c shop owner and he's had guys with late machinery fit Shenkos and dads fitted a rear to his R80. They seem to come back and have them refitted. Not all of us are racer wannabes ;). And some of us can think outsde the square :cool:

Stevo

30th December 2004, 07:07

I have fitted an ME55 Metzeler to the back of the fizzer and am happy with it. Only done about 5000 kms on it though

Posh Tourer :P

30th December 2004, 07:25

Had a metzler fitted to the MZ, wasn't too bad. If you want, a 120/90 might fit (I put a Conti on, worked very well (up a size on specs on the rear, down a size on the front). Ended up with a 4.00-18 rear, 3.25-18 (19?) front, made for more grip and better turning. I recommend doing something similar, I found it made the bike feel much better.... Metzlers might be more expensive.... Try also some of the other brands eg Conti, Dunlop etc sport touring range, I found that the metzler tended to be more rounded, and the others gave better contact patch (flatter). Metzler dealt very well with the water though.....

Also have metzlers on the beemer, and I've gotten to the edge of the tyre, without too many problems. Shouldn't be too many problems with stickiness, especially on the CB250. A friend of mine has the Dunlop Arrowmax (?) on his and I can get my toe sliders down without any suspicion of slipping....
If you want a lot more grip in the wet, go up from the sport touring range to whatever is stickier.

What have you got at the moment?

Holy Roller

30th December 2004, 07:44

A friend of mine has the Dunlop Arrowmax (?) on his and I can get my toe sliders down without any suspicion of slipping....
If you want a lot more grip in the wet, go up from the sport touring range to whatever is stickier.

What have you got at the moment?

My arrowmax has been fantastic heaps of confidence in both wet and dry, I'm on my second one now. They would be great for your bike and not a bad price either.

Bonez

30th December 2004, 07:58

If you want, a 120/90 might fit I've found over tyring a bike bings on other issues. So has my mate on his 500 Pantah. Went down a size and handling has improved untold.

MSTRS

30th December 2004, 08:20

I chose Michelin MEZ4 rear & Macadam 100X front for sport/tour combination. Seems to work well on the 1100. Only one anxious moment in about 6000k & that was oil on a wet smooth patch on a 30K corner when doing 45k in the rain. Great wear as well. Am told that in cold, wet conditions it is a good idea to drop the tyre pressure to low 30s psi which makes the tyres run hotter (therefore stickier)

jrandom

30th December 2004, 08:32

I chose Michelin MEZ4 rear & Macadam 100X front for sport/tour combination. Seems to work well on the 1100.

Yeah, but CSL has a CB250RS, so the appropriate choice of tyres is probably a little different.

I'll just put in a plug for Pirelli MT75s, always did the job well in wet and dry. Not the longest lasting 'small sport tourer' tyres, though, only did 6K on the FXR's rear MT75 before it gave up. Then I did another 3K on it.

KK is my hero.

Motu

30th December 2004, 08:37

Metzler Perfect - it will be perfect for your bike...

Posh Tourer :P

30th December 2004, 09:07

I've found over tyring a bike bings on other issues. So has my mate on his 500 Pantah. Went down a size and handling has improved untold.

Yes it does depend on the bike. On that bike, it turned in slow and wasn't nice to flick around. Up a size on the back and down on the front made it very nice....

I'm not advocating overtyring everything, but definitely an open mind can help.

If you are happy with it as is, keep the current tyre sizes, but don't be afraid to go one size either side of manufacturers specs.

On consideration, the CB250 handles well as it is probably, so manufacturers specs could be the way to go...

Ms Piggy

30th December 2004, 09:18

Thanks guys - I'm doing a ring around now.

Ok my normal bike shop just gave me a price of $175 fitted for a good quality tyre. Is that reasonable? It's an IRC RS310.

Bonez

30th December 2004, 09:23

On consideration, the CB250 handles well as it is probably, so manufacturers specs could be the way to go...Which are 3.00S18-4PR front and 4.00S18-4PR rear. As Posh has said one size up 4.10 rear and 3.25 front could be the go.

MSTRS

30th December 2004, 11:30

Hitcher

30th December 2004, 14:19

I'll put in a plug for the Dunlop GT501 Arrowmax. But rather than muck around with us lot, Cathy just go and see Kerry at Sawyers. He'll do you a good deal.

Ms Piggy

7th January 2005, 14:58

Biff

7th January 2005, 15:22

I'm a big Bridgestone fan and have been so following a head to head comparison between a number of major brands in two separate UK bike mags the just over a year ago.

The Metzler came out tops for track use, closely followed by the Bridgestone, but the Bridgestone won both test for all round day to day track and road use. Not cheap though.

James Deuce

7th January 2005, 15:22

Ok, here's some prices I got today. So what do you lot think?

Shop # 1:
IRC $111 + fitting $25-
Dunlop $152 + fitting
Bridgestone $174 + fitting
Darby's, V Rubber $62 + fitting

Do any of you know about the Darby tyres??

Shop# 2:
Darby, V-rubber $69 front, $129 rear + fitting
Pirelli $99- front, $149 rear + fitting
Metzler $159 rear, $149 front

Keeping in mind I am a poor student but, also I am about to do several k's around the South Island on my little beastie.
Never heard of Darby. Staying at the cheap end, I would suggest that IRC are not too bad. Do you have the model numbers of the tyres? Would help the research to see if it really is a "value" proposition.

JIm

Ms Piggy

7th January 2005, 15:48

Never heard of Darby. Staying at the cheap end, I would suggest that IRC are not too bad. Do you have the model numbers of the tyres? Would help the research to see if it really is a "value" proposition.

JIm
No sorry I don't - I can ask them though. The guy at shop 1 said the Darby's were a fairly new ttyre that a lot of riders of older bikes had been using and quite happy with.

Anyone???

Motu

7th January 2005, 16:29

Well it sure as hell ain't a ''Darby'' - they've branded some cheapy.

Ms Piggy

7th January 2005, 16:35

Well it sure as hell ain't a ''Darby'' - they've branded some cheapy.
Why do you say that Motu? Actually when the guy told me the price he was pretty gob smacked himself that it was so cheap.

Blakamin

7th January 2005, 16:37

I'd be wary of anything they call "v rubber" :gob:
I'd go Pirrelli...but thats just me... (still cant get rid of the bloody chicken strips even when my toe hit the ground)

Ms Piggy

7th January 2005, 17:05

I'd be wary of anything they call "v rubber" :gob:
Why? :unsure:

Blakamin

7th January 2005, 17:19

Why? :unsure:
V rubber..... is that very rubber?
dunno... just makes ya think their other products might be like "V concrete" or "V house" or "v kettle" or one of those amazing things that get made by daewoo or sumfin..... can see it now *insert wavy, blurry screen bit here* "from microwave ovens to cars, there isn't THAT much difference"

Motu

7th January 2005, 17:24

Why do you say that Motu? Actually when the guy told me the price he was pretty gob smacked himself that it was so cheap.

Darby Accessories is the name of a motorcycle wholesaler in Auckland,they hold the importing licences on a whole range of products,including NGK spark plugs.When you buy in large bulk lots you sometimes get the option of your own name brand,sorta like those bottles of wine with some firms name on it.They've done it with gloves,looks like they might of got a good tyre deal,and branding to boot.....

Ms Piggy

7th January 2005, 17:45

Darby Accessories is the name of a motorcycle wholesaler in Auckland,they hold the importing licences on a whole range of products,including NGK spark plugs.When you buy in large bulk lots you sometimes get the option of your own name brand,sorta like those bottles of wine with some firms name on it.They've done it with gloves,looks like they might of got a good tyre deal,and branding to boot.....
So this is a good thing then or does that mean it will be shite? I mean I want good quality but if that's good quality as well as dirt cheap I'm there!

James Deuce

7th January 2005, 18:11

So this is a good thing then or does that mean it will be shite? I mean I want good quality but if that's good quality as well as dirt cheap I'm there!

No such thing - you have to pay for quality.

The good news is most "cheap" tyres today are better than quality tyres of 10 years ago.

I ignore the Darby V-ery nearly Rubber though. Darby's early glove efforts were terrible. I hope their tyres are better than their original clothing line.

tz tony

7th January 2005, 20:53

You could also consider a Dunlop TT100, a great tyre for smaller bikes and if you ask for the GP compound you will get outstanding grip wet and dry!

inlinefour

7th January 2005, 20:55

Ok all you bike shops in Wgtn - I have a Honda CB250RS and I need a new rear tyre. It's 185x18 (according to the rim), so hopefully I got that right!

Who can do me the best deal on a tyre and fitting. I don't want crap either.

Cheers CSL.

I'm quite fussy as some of you might allready know and Bridgestone will be the only tyre for my bikes. :done:

Gasman

8th January 2005, 07:21

V rubber..... is that very rubber?
dunno... just makes ya think their other products might be like "V concrete" or "V house" or "v kettle" or one of those amazing things that get made by daewoo or sumfin..... can see it now *insert wavy, blurry screen bit here* "from microwave ovens to cars, there isn't THAT much difference"

There's a high octane, high performace petrol sold in other countries by Shell called V Power. Nothing cheap about that...........!!

Blakamin

8th January 2005, 08:05

There's a high octane, high performace petrol sold in other countries by Shell called V Power. Nothing cheap about that...........!!
but its not called "V petrol" is it???

Ms Piggy

12th January 2005, 10:09

I just picked my bike from TTS in Petone and they have not only fitted a new tyre - man it feels better but, they've managed to fix my clutch cable and lever. It's been really sloppy for ages and has resulted in me going through 3 clutch cabels in the last 4 months...actually this is would be # 4!

I was really impressed that they took the time to fix an ongoing problem. Cheers guys! :niceone: It makes a big difference talking to someone who is actually interested in helping me sort out the problems with my little beast! Now we're set for our South Island trip! :ride:

I actually ended up going with the Darby Vee rubber tyre after asking around a bit I decided that it was the right tyre for me. I'm a conservative rider and I'm not exactly hanging off the bike round corners or going at great speeds. In actual fact, as TSS pointed out, it had a Vee rubber on it already.

bungbung

12th January 2005, 10:33

Darby Accessories is the name of a motorcycle wholesaler in Auckland,they hold the importing licences on a whole range of products,including NGK spark plugs.When you buy in large bulk lots you sometimes get the option of your own name brand,sorta like those bottles of wine with some firms name on it.They've done it with gloves,looks like they might of got a good tyre deal,and branding to boot.....

That would be Darbi Accessories you're thinking of.

Sime Darby is a Malaysian Tyre Manufacturer that makes 'Darby' branded tyres.