Hyosung GTR250R, good/bad?

[CB ARGH]

Aah! I can't make my mind up!

The guy in Red Baron says that "it's a good bike", and that if you wanted performance you'd go with one of those *pointing to second hand hondas, yama's, etc*, but says the best thing about a brand new bike, in this case Hyosung, is you know it's whole history, and the torque would get you out of the corners faster.

People say that the brakes are weaker, well, compared to what? I've come off a Year 2000 XR200 Honda, drum brakes and all, that stopped me in time to stop my balls kissing the handlebars, so I'm sure that two discs and callipars on the front and one on the back would do the trick?

Honestly, I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

Any help please.

STEVEN

[James Deuce]

I've ridden the Comet (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=44321) and the GT250R for a reasonable amount of time and they're better put together than the old munt that they sell as "sportsbikes".

If you want to spend almost the same amount of money on a 15 to 20 year old bike instead of buying new and getting a warranty and a recall programme then that is the choice you face.

I'd buy the Hyosung if I was buying a new 250 today.

Let's be clear about something though. V-Twins do not make more torque than parallel twins, singles, or transverse 4s of the same capacity. They all deliver torque differently. Someone will no doubt post a graph displaying a V-twin making 1 kg/m^2 of torque more than a transverse 4 of the same capacity, but the reality is that there is a gnat's whisker in it.

Brakes: Easy to fix (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1028608&postcount=12)

With the old 250s (CBRs, ZXRs, FZRs, GSXRs) you will have to understand that there will be things that will be wrong with them. Steering head bearings, swingarm bushes/bearings, chain, sprockets - I've seen some nightmares being sold for big money.

[mowgli]

Hyosung GTR250R Good/Bad?
Neither. They're great. I loved mine and it served me well.

Edit: I think the "bad brakes" rep that the hyobag has is related to the naked comet that only has one rotor on the front.

[James Deuce]

Neither. They're great. I loved mine and it served me well.

Edit: I think the "bad brakes" rep that the hyobag has is related to the naked comet that only has one rotor on the front.

Bollocks. The Comet's brakes are better then the GT650R's for some reason.

I did provide links to stuff I'd said before.

[McJim]

From the people I've met that had them they seemed to like them quite a lot. I had this choice to make not too long ago myself - brand new GT250R or used VTR 250 (3,600km so very lightly used when I got it) I went with the VTR coz it was a known brand to me.

I would be interested to see how the hyosungs compare with the Kawasakis parallel twin 250s since they have the Ninja 250 and the GPX250 offering quite similar performance and stunning looks with the new Ninja.

[325rocket]

good bikes, i also love mine.
as for the brakes i have never not stopped so that must be a good thing.
you really have to ride one yourself. there is really no point comparing power, torque on 250's none of them are all that fast (Aprilia RS250 excluded). if you want fast get a bigger bike, if your on your learners just wait it out it wont be all that long.
good luck

[mowgli]

Bollocks. The Comet's brakes are better then the GT650R's for some reason.

I did provide links to stuff I'd said before.
Which Comet are you referring to Jim2? My GT250R Comet had two brake discs up front while my friend's GT250 (naked) Comet only had one. My brakes never caused me concern but I doubt I'd have felt the same with half as many rotors.

As for the GT650R ask DB. They've got one of each.

[kiwifruit]

Bad. I wouldnt touch one for fear of breaking it.

What about something like this;
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-155594829.htm

[BiK3RChiK]

As for the GT650R ask DB. They've got one of each.

Actually, we now own 2 x GT250R's and 1 x GT650R. I couldn't comment on the braking of the 650 but have never had an issue with stopping on the 250. Both I and my son absolutely love our 250's. At this stage, neither of us would consider anything else. However, I'm sure that when I get my full, I will be looking at something else besides Hyosung. But that is a whole different story.

[DingoZ]

Have not regretted buying my 2007 GT250R Hyosung. Has performed faultlessly for 10,000km. Nothing has broken, nothing has gone wrong electrically or mechanically.

Not had an issue with brakes, or the tyres.

For the complete package of being able to walk into a dealer and pay your money and ride away on a brand new bike which will see you through to your full licence, and still hold a reasonable re sale value, if you look after it that it is ... Worth the money

But as everyone will tell you, ride it first, if if suits you, it is after all your money, you have to decide in the end.

I'd buy another one if I was in the market for a 250

[T.W.R]

Having to deal with quite a few GT250Rs that we sell from the initial assembly from the crate, pre delivery inspections, 1st services & on going servicing and warranty issues, the bikes are OK nothing spectacular but totally ample for their intended market.
The variation in build quality leaves them lacking by comparison to Japanese brands, the brakes match the performance of the bike.
The only thing that always astounds me is the amount of swarf that collects on the sump magnet at the 1st service :gob: it's a considerable amount but always the same amount.
Kawasaki NZ who distribute the Hyosung are at a dilemma because the GT250R sells at a 3/1 ratio compared to the Kawasaki or any other brand.

[BiK3RChiK]

Kawasaki NZ who distribute the Hyosung are at a dilemma because the GT250R sells at a 3/1 ratio compared to the Kawasaki or any other brand.

Possibly because of their price and their 'look' more than anything. I would have thought the Kawasaki Ninja would have been a little more competitive than that though...

[CookMySock]

The only real problem with the the Hyosung GT250/650R is the suspension. On undulating road they are rough as crap, and if you are trying to corner the thing really fast and hit the rough, you better hold on tight and be ready for some time airborne. Make sure your helmet is on really tight too. Yep. Bumpy as.

Forget about which is faster, etc etc yadda yadda yadda. It's a 250. It's a learner bike. Live with it. Get your full and then get a 600. On the open road the GT250R will happily howl along on the flat 120k, and climb most if not any hills in top gear sitting on the speed limit.

For styling and wow factor, the GT250R and GT650R look really cool. Your Mum will frown. Your Dad will love it. Your girlfriend will love it. People will wave at you. They look hot.

Brakes - you grab a mitt full of them and squeeze, and they stop. Squeeze really hard and it will stop really friggin quick, and maybe slip the front loose. You don't need anything more than this - It's a learner bike.

The GT250R really needs a noisy exhaust on it. I have heard one (didnt notice the brand) and it sounded like a modern dirtbike. Yum. Pop the GT650R back two gears and cane it, and standard it sounds great. Neither of these bikes are really audible at 100km/hr.

The bottom line is, for someone who is a new new learner, straight out of the Basic Handling Skills test and scratchies, the GT250R is an impressive machine in all respects. The bike sets a very good foundation for rider and bike - one of respect for his machine that will last forever. It looks and feels like a big bike, because it is a big bike.

Parts are dead cheap and available easily (one week wait max) from http://www.richardhyosunggvgt.com/

Yeah we like them. Got three so far, and the other teen (13 y/o) wants one too - that'll be four.

DB

[Dakara]

Was a no brainer for me. I bought my GT250R Novemeber last year, got the 08 twin-tone (i.e the '07 re-painted :rolleyes:) and love it. It definately doesn't have as much power as my old ZZR but I much prefer the handling.

My brakes are fine, yes the are a tad weak but not an issue. My only reccomendatin would be to chage the tyres, especially since it's winter. I kept the Shinko's on for the first few months, they were ok on the dry, but deadly in the wet. Since I threw on a set of Pirelli's it's like riding a totally differen't bike! :jerry:

Also, if your planning to move onto say a 600 when you get your full, the Hyo is a great stepping stone as it handles like a bigger bike (apart from the throttle :lol:) due to the fact it weighs the same/more than most modern 600's and is roughly the same size...

I sit my full shortly, so been looking into my replacement and will be able to trade the Hyo for $5,500 - $6,000 depending on what I buy, which aint much less than I paid for it! :2thumbsup

[FLYMO]

yeah same all all above
its a good bike for the conditions and as they say parts are cheaper out of korea and quick too
colours are not too bad either
all and all im happy with my gt250r

[wickle]

A friends son just bought one we went thru to Taupo late yesterday to met up with them coming back, riding back it seemed to go well keeping with Suzuki 1200 Bandit, gs850, gsx750 and Harley , Im shore his Dad wouldnt let him buy a bike that he himself was not happy with!

[Bonez]

A friends son just bought one we went thru to Taupo late yesterday to met up with them coming back, riding back it seemed to go well keeping with Suzuki 1200 Bandit, gs850, gsx750 and Harley , Im shore his Dad wouldnt let him buy a bike that he himself was not happy with!
The Hyos that have been along on the Manawatu jaunts have performed quite admirably. Good for taller riders getting into bikes. Seem to be getting a loyal following as well. There's a chap down Welly way whose done 50,000kms+ without issue apart from regular servicing/tires/brake pads etc.

[CookMySock]

[....]riding back it seemed to go well keeping with Suzuki 1200 Bandit, gs850, gsx750 and HarleyI'll comment about this too, because it surprised me..

I rode my Sons' new GT250R back from Tauranga (about an hour) and I wasn't looking forward to it at all.. (slow 250's grumble grumble) BUT the little bugger flew along at 120k no worries!! I pulled out passed everything in sight, and sure it didnt have the fuck-off crackle of the 650R, but otherwise I really enjoyed the ride! I was quite amazed. That was actually the first time I have done an hour-long jaunt on any 250..

DB

[CB ARGH]

Oh god oh god. Choices!

Almost everyone here thinks that their pretty alright, but I found another website forum and they all thought it was crap, things falling off it, oil drain plug leaks, missing brake pad, etc. They all pointed towards a bad dealer that didn't put it together properly though. Just don't want to have the one in a thousand that is a bomb, that's all.

I might have a peek-a-boo at CBR250's...

[Radar]

Oh god oh god. Choices!

Almost everyone here thinks that their pretty alright, but I found another website forum and they all thought it was crap, things falling off it, oil drain plug leaks, missing brake pad, etc. They all pointed towards a bad dealer that didn't put it together properly though. Just don't want to have the one in a thousand that is a bomb, that's all.

I might have a peek-a-boo at CBR250's...

If you dismiss :oi-grr: all of the positive comments above due to another forum that talked about a bad dealer, then all I can say is go ahead and get the Honda.

At the risk of talking to a brick wall, here is my 2 cents: The brakes on my GT250 (naked) are good - I have slammed them on quite hard, like this afternoon, and they stop me fast, and unlike the GTR's there is only one on the front. I also agree with all the positive comments above (fast for a 250, good price) and will add that they are great on fuel economy. Negatives - I do agree that the suspension is not the best, and on older models (like my 2004) the shock may need replacing sooner rather than later. GW55 from Upper Hutt has done over 62,000 on his GT250 Comet and has had no trouble other than replacing the shock a few weeks ago. Lastly, the forum that is Hyosung-only is KoRider - there is one guy in the states that has a 650 lemon and consequently trashes all Hyo's but everyone else on the forum do in fact like their bikes.

[Gubb]

Bad. I wouldnt touch one for fear of breaking it.

What about something like this;
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-155594829.htm

:lol:
As opposed to the sexy blue paper-weight in your lounge?

[CookMySock]

If you dismiss :oi-grr: all of the positive comments above due to another forum that talked about a bad dealer, then all I can say is go ahead and get the Honda.I reckon he should go exactly as he chooses. :bleh:

DB

[Radar]

I reckon he should go exactly as he chooses. :bleh:

DB

:bleh: Exactly. Its his $$, his choice. Why assume otherwise? :bleh:

[HungusMaximist]

I had a 03 GT250, had no balls but it was cheap because for 1 tank of gas I got around 450 km of riding.

I mean, nothing can beat that.

[BiK3RChiK]

I had a 03 GT250, had no balls but it was cheap because for 1 tank of gas I got around 450 km of riding.

I mean, nothing can beat that.

Agreed. I think I get about 400 km's on one tank of gas on my GT250R.. an 07 model. They have excellent fuel economy.

[mowgli]

Agreed. I think I get about 400 km's on one tank of gas on my GT250R.. an 07 model. They have excellent fuel economy.

I agree. I consistently got a little over 3 litres per 100km on the open road. To tank dry that should have got me over 500km although 470km is the furtherest I ever went between refuels. With mixed riding on the open road and around town used to ignore fuel until the trip meter passed 400km then fill up at the next convenient stop.

Needless to say I am a bit more conscious of fuel with my current bike but then I didn't buy it to save the planet :bleh:

[glice]

only bad thing I've heard is they get written off easily, I was talking to a guy who sells them and that was his major concern, they just bend too easy he said. all that means tho is get proper insurance and it wont matter (or dont crash, but that cant always be helped)

[xwhatsit]

only bad thing I've heard is they get written off easily, I was talking to a guy who sells them and that was his major concern, they just bend too easy he said. all that means tho is get proper insurance and it wont matter (or dont crash, but that cant always be helped)
If you're buying new, who cares if it gets written off, really? Damaging the fairings would be enough, wouldn't it?

[glice]

If you're buying new, who cares if it gets written off, really? Damaging the fairings would be enough, wouldn't it?

yea thats sort of what I'm saying, but not very well:Oops:

[CookMySock]

only bad thing I've heard is they get written off easily, I was talking to a guy who sells them and that was his major concern, they just bend too easy he said.Bogus ! I have seen three that have been rolled bowled and arseholed, and they had scratched fairings, broken levers and indicators, and bugger all else.

DB

[EJK]

I give a thumb up for the GT250R.
Some people will say "Ahh thats too slow!", but it's got enugh power to overtake a car from 100kph.

I've been riding a couple of single cylinders (Scorpio, FXR150) but neither of them comes close to the power(?) of the mighty(??) V Twin lol

If I have the money, I'd buy one.... Really...

Honestly think about it (Compare to my bike). It starts every time, goes well, got enough power, it's new, looks good, reliable, big size (good for upgrading), good resale value etc...

Highly recommended :niceone:

[glice]

Bogus ! I have seen three that have been rolled bowled and arseholed, and they had scratched fairings, broken levers and indicators, and bugger all else.

DB

thats just what I've seen and heard. it may be the same as what people say about suzukis, who knows.
I'm not saying they are bad bikes. in fact if I needed another bike and could afford one I would definatly consider getting one.

[Gubb]

I've crashed twice now, and the only bits that broke were the mirrors and indicators.

Minor scuffing to the fairings.

[DarkLord]

Good bikes. They run well and are a great learner's bike.

However, make sure you go for the '07 or '08 models - don't go for the '06. The '06 models are not particularly bad, but the '07s at least are a big jump in terms of design and quality. I couldn't believe how much better I felt riding an '07 Hyosung compared to an '06.

The frame is apparently 40% stronger with the '07s and onwards as well.

[nivram]

I have the 07 comet and love it had a minor problem with break light switch not working which was just a loose connection apart from that its a lot of bike for the money. The brake problem is a myth they stop me everytime no probem you want bad brakes jump on a virago!

[rphenix]

I have the 07 comet and love it had a minor problem with break light switch not working which was just a loose connection apart from that its a lot of bike for the money. The brake problem is a myth they stop me everytime no probem you want bad brakes jump on a virago!

Also $250 and waiting about 48-72 hours for parts to arrive from korea and you can upgrade the brakes on the comet.