Pukekohe two-hour race?

[White trash]

I read (and have discussed) about a possibility of a 2 hour race at Puke as part of the AMCC club champs this year. Mandatory 2 riders, none of this iron man bullshit.

Should such an event happen, who's gonna be keen?

Speaking to "people in the know", they envisage that the focus will be on FUN, and turning the round into a team event rather than any expectations of televised "Endurance" racing.

So who's up?

Where the fuck do I sign?

Also, who' be keen on paying the meagre ten bucks entry fee to spectate fora days entertainment?

[Grub]

I wonder who's going to trust their bike to someone else to drop ... :)

The thing with these races is that if there IS two riders to organise the regs so that the riders do half the race each. As I recall in the 6-hour one year, the guy who won rode the whole thing solo ... and someone else had the second rider on for just a few laps while he had a pee and pie

[jimbo600]

Yeah I'd turn up to watch, but you know how unreliable I am so I probably wouldn't show.

Dunno about some other dude racing my bike though, however I'd be happy being a No2 rider for someone else.

[Tony.OK]

Dunno about some other dude racing my bike though, however I'd be happy being a No2 rider for someone else.

Yeah that'd my thought too:niceone:

[Gremlin]

From a marshalling perspective, its not too different really, still bikes going around and around, with a few falling off :bleh:

The one thing that does worry me is the difference between classes, ie a superbike closing on an f3 down the back straight. I think we all know what I am thinking of, but this is a concern for me, as I (and I am sure everybody else) does not want to do what we had to do last time, if we can avoid it.

Besides that safety concern, it sounds like all of you guys would enjoy it, so hell, why not?

edit: Ta Jimmy, just ignore us marshalls in the poll eh? I'll remember that the next time I have to pick up your sorry ass :p

[RiderInBlack]

What only 2hours? Yer OK ya racing but couldn't see the need to change rider if it is only 2hours. Fuel ya would unless ya could have a larger tank. Love ta see something more like Le Mans 24-Hour Car Race with bikes though. A real test of man and machine.

[White trash]

Sorry, probably should've clarified. Only F1 and F2 would race together in a 2 hour race. You might have a 20 minute Post Classic race and a half hour each 125 and F3 race for example.

As for others riding your bike, you look at it like this. Ya split the cost 50/50 REGARDLESS of who does what. That way it's equal risk, one rider doesn't stand to lose more than the other.

[cowpoos]

I read (and have discussed) about a possibility of a 2 hour race at Puke as part of the AMCC club champs this year. Mandatory 2 riders, none of this iron man bullshit.

Should such an event happen, who's gonna be keen?

Speaking to "people in the know", they envisage that the focus will be on FUN, and turning the round into a team event rather than any expectations of televised "Endurance" racing.

So who's up?

Where the fuck do I sign?

Also, who' be keen on paying the meagre ten bucks entry fee to spectate fora days entertainment?
Need a team mate do ya Mister?

[Trudes]

Sounds cool!! I'd be in if i could fit it in! Any reason why the two riders in each team couldn't ride their own bike? Oh, would this be open to 'real racers' only?

[Meekey_Mouse]

Yeah I'd turn up to watch, but you know how unreliable I am so I probably wouldn't show.

Dunno about some other dude racing my bike though, however I'd be happy being a No2 rider for someone else.

Haha yip... Bingo! On both accounts :lol:

[FROSTY]

Ya know what--Um having kinda gone down this track.
Theres no reason there couldn't actually be 2x 2 hour races
As in F1/f2 and F3/125/posty
Basicly ya need 6-7 hours to run 2 races

[White trash]

Oh and also, before I get slagged or asked any questions I know nothing of, I don't speak for the AMCC, all I know is the idea has been floated and they're pretty keen.

What I've posted is simply my understanding of how something could run, not how it will be run.

[White trash]

Need a team mate do ya Mister?
No thanks. Got one.

[gixerracer]

No thanks. Got one.

its me a jimmy:niceone:

[White trash]

its me a jimmy:niceone:
Untill I find a better offer :D

Am I supplying the pit girls or you wanna bring your own?

[Sollyboy]

I read (and have discussed) about a possibility of a 2 hour race at Puke as part of the AMCC club champs this year. Mandatory 2 riders, none of this iron man bullshit.

Should such an event happen, who's gonna be keen?

Speaking to "people in the know", they envisage that the focus will be on FUN, and turning the round into a team event rather than any expectations of televised "Endurance" racing.

So who's up?

Where the fuck do I sign?

Also, who' be keen on paying the meagre ten bucks entry fee to spectate fora days entertainment?

Ive crashed both my bikes but I might be keen if I can team up with you? Is your suspension good Im 140kg so we might have to play with the spring rates etc,
Im willing to chip in for fuel and i insist I supply all the athlete endurance food , hope you like taro and tinned mackrel washed down with 7up

[gixerracer]

Untill I find a better offer :D

Am I supplying the pit girls or you wanna bring your own?

well you just fucked that up didnt you

[Trudes]

Any reason why the two riders in each team couldn't ride their own bike? Oh, would this be open to 'real racers' only?

These were serious questions, any chance I could have an answer? Thanks:sunny:

[White trash]

These were serious questions, any chance I could have an answer? Thanks:sunny:
Sorry mate, thought you were being sarcastic. My bad.

Not sure about the rules regarding riding two different bikes within one team. As for "real racers", as long as you hold a current MNZ licence and your bike passes scrutineering, you're as real a racer as the guy (or girl) in the next pit. :D

[Trudes]

Sorry mate, thought you were being sarcastic. My bad.

Not sure about the rules regarding riding two different bikes within one team. As for "real racers", as long as you hold a current MNZ licence and your bike passes scrutineering, you're as real a racer as the guy (or girl) in the next pit. :D

Awesome, thanks Jimmy.:)
In that case I'd be keen to put a two person team together, not necessarily to be competitive but for the experience and because it sounds like wicked good fun.
Keep us updated on the progress for this happening won't you, cheers!

[White trash]

well you just fucked that up didnt you
Why's that? My brolly dollys not up to your caliber?

You bloody chequebook racers are all the same.......

[scracha]

Sorry, probably should've clarified. Only F1 and F2 would race together in a 2 hour race. You might have a 20 minute Post Classic race and a half hour each 125 and F3 race for example.

As for others riding your bike, you look at it like this. Ya split the cost 50/50 REGARDLESS of who does what. That way it's equal risk, one rider doesn't stand to lose more than the other.

1) So all the other classes get 20 minutes and have to watch F1/F2 going round and round for 2 hours?
2) Any other track but Pukekohe and I'd say maybe
3) Suggestion: - as per other countries, each rider does their stints on their own bike. More like a tag team. Reduces dangers associated with fast refuelling, tyre changes, repairs and more importantly means you can only crash your own bike.

[kickingzebra]

one hour of racing goooooddd... two hours better...
I would be keen as a bean, but honestly, why not beat the hell out of it and hope to televise? anyone see the top gear 24 hour thing?? brilliant stuff, made for bloody exciting repetitive laps!

[White trash]

1) So all the other classes get 20 minutes and have to watch F1/F2 going round and round for 2 hours?

Not really, that was just my take on how it might work. Can you imagine a two hour 125 race?


2) Any other track but Pukekohe and I'd say maybe

Why's that? Scared of Puke'?


3) Suggestion: - as per other countries, each rider does their stints on their own bike. More like a tag team. Reduces dangers associated with fast refuelling, tyre changes, repairs and more importantly means you can only crash your own bike.

And that makes it a "team" event how? Suzuka 8 hour they ride one bike. World endurance champs they ride one bike.

[flame]

I reckon it'd be fricken awesome fun. Puke rocks! As long as my sponsors are ok with it then count me in!

[scrivy]

White Crash, talk more with Frosty. The idea of an endurance race has been brought up many times before.
If it was at Taupo, I would help out with it as much as possible, hell, I'd even like to help sponsor it!! Chris Lawrance and I even contemplated the idea of an endurance meeting for our Road Race Spectacular next year.
The Taupo track is so much more friendlier to racers than Puke.

We definately need this type of event to happen - and soon!! :niceone:

[scrivy]

Actually, what about a 2 or 3 round endurance series?? :crazy::clap:

[White trash]

Actually, what about a 2 or 3 round endurance series?? :crazy::clap:
Woah woah woah, I'm confusing people more sorry.

I'm not organising or haveing anything to do with this particular event, it's AMCCs baby, that's not to say I'm adverse to the idea of getting involved in another event later on, I agree it'd be a blast at Taupo. Although, the tyre bill would be fucken horrendus.

I just wondered what people thought as AMCC are looking at running this event as part of their series this year is all.

[scracha]

Can you imagine a two hour 125 race?

Yes? What's the difference apart from horsepower?



Why's that? Scared of Puke'?

It's not very central.
It's not very exciting (especially on lower horsepower bikes)
It's got poor facilities
Armco and poor runoff are not a good idea for endurance racing.
Not a great view for spectators.
And yes, I'm $hit scared of Puke.



And that makes it a "team" event how? Suzuka 8 hour they ride one bike. World endurance champs they ride one bike.
For sure, but we can't exactly compare NZ racers to the world endurance champ nor Pukekohe to Suzuka now can we?

"team"...as in more than one person. Rider goes out, gets knackered, whatever. Comes into pits and the other "teammate" goes out.

Up to 3 entrants on 2 or 3 bikes.
http://www.hottrax-motorsport.co.uk/hmrcchampleaflet.pdf

[sidecar bob]

Not sure what you mean by iron man bullshit, 2 hour races were ridden solo when i was running a 2 wheeler. The last race i ever did on 2 wheels was the Pukekohe 2 hour i think '88 or '89.
FFS, There are some race results posted on this site from around 1980 where Robbie Dean did a Castrol 6 hour solo.

[scrivy]

Not sure what you mean by iron man bullshit, 2 hour races were ridden solo when i was running a 2 wheeler. The last race i ever did on 2 wheels was the Pukekohe 2 hour i think '88 or '89.
FFS, There are some race results posted on this site from around 1980 where Robbie Dean did a Castrol 6 hour solo.

er Bob, the ol fellas back then were hard - compared to todays breed....... :rolleyes::woohoo:

[Clivoris]

What a fabulous way it would be to learn my way around HAMPTON DOWNS. I s'pose it could be fun at Pukie, but I've never ridden there. It's a long way to go from little old Porirua but if it was a festive and fun occasion, I would give it serious consideration.

[White trash]

Not sure what you mean by iron man bullshit, 2 hour races were ridden solo when i was running a 2 wheeler. The last race i ever did on 2 wheels was the Pukekohe 2 hour i think '88 or '89.
FFS, There are some race results posted on this site from around 1980 where Robbie Dean did a Castrol 6 hour solo.
I think the big idea for this event is a fun, team event. Something a bit different from the norm.

Personally, I'd have no problem racing a two hour solo. Six hours? That I'd have an issue with :D

[White trash]

Yes? What's the difference apart from horsepower?


You'd maybe have three bikes finish, if you were lucky.


For sure, but we can't exactly compare NZ racers to the world endurance champ

Why not? Damien Cudlin races world endurance championship, he raced our nats. How many races did he win again?


nor Pukekohe to Suzuka now can we?

Why not? Both tracks have a chequred safety history. Ever hear of a guy named Dajiro Kato?

Anyways, enough of that, you've got your reasons. I just think it's a better test of a team if it's one bike, two riders, doing tyre changes, having to refuel, all the rest of it.

[limbimtimwim]

I'd do it.

I'd even be a fucking sheep and even go to a gym and get fit to do that.

Who do I share a bike with?

[Sparky Bills]

Hell yeah! Id race!

Where do I sign?:beer:

[Clivoris]

I'd do it.

I'd even be a fucking sheep and even go to a gym and get fit to do that.

Who do I share a bike with?

Get thee to the gym :scooter:and maybe we could hatch a plan for taking out the 400cc endurance title.:yes:

[scracha]

Get thee to the gym :scooter:and maybe we could hatch a plan for taking out the 400cc endurance title.:yes:
That's the only reason I play football :sweatdrop

[FROSTY]

The whole point of an endurance race in my opinion is to introduce a new element into the races.
As trashy said tyre changes,refuelling, rider changes then become import and and can win or loose races.
One thought would be compulsary rider changes every half hour with a 5 minute window to have left the track in makes for 3 rider changes--

I've been keen to run an endurance meeting but business pressure has put it on the back burner

[Tony.OK]

30 mins and I'd be rooted,100kms and it'd be outta fuel...................knew this smokin thing'd catch up with me:crazy:

[Clivoris]

That's the only reason I play football :sweatdrop

That can't be true, it's in your genes. Scotsmen have no choice about fitba. I've known a couple that have played way past their use by date, finding new ways to brutalise and injure their tired old bodies every weekend.

Now, back to the racing. I do think it's a great idea, but the more I think about this (the expense, the risk of someone else binning a bike that has to race in other meetings) the wider the fence gets that I'm sitting on. Having it closer to Welly would certainly be likely to get me off.....the fence.

[Quasievil]

NEWS JUST IN Quasievil is now available to race, small fee required but how cool would that be, to have a rider of such calibre on your team !!

apply here

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[scracha]

Sounds like fun Jimmy, I would be in as a team member or ambo.


Hell, maybe you could do both. Bang in 30 or so laps, jump off bike. High 5 your other ambo guy ...etc etc. :doctor:

Tag team racing. Have a supermotard for a minimum of 30 minutes, a 600 for minimum of 30 minutes and litre bike for minimum of 30 minutes. Let the carnage begin.

[Deano]

Relay race - try passing the baton at 300kph......no ? ok, back on topic....

[fireball]

dont forget about your marshalls!!!!

they only concern i have is with the whole thing is the different powered bikes in one race..... but with saying that im happy to pick your ass up off the ground when you need me.

if it happens ill be there dressed in orange happily watching bikes go round and round and round

[Riff Raff]

Sounds like fun Jimmy, I would be in as a team member or ambo.


Hell, maybe you could do both. Bang in 30 or so laps, jump off bike. High 5 your other ambo guy ...etc etc. :doctor:

Or gal !!! Hehe - there you go Glen - we can team up for it.

[svr]

Endurance races are for the purists - they show who can ride consistently fast WITHOUT CRASHING (hands up who can't ride fast for an hour without binning it).
Trouble is people win by laps not milliseconds - sucks being bored AND confused.

Scrivey - doesn't suit your meeting - sprint races are better when you're hungover from 10 days of holiday-drinking. Also you'll need the long track so I can nap down the straight.

Long track or Pukie and I'd be a starter.

[scracha]

Aye, there'd need to be live timing etc so's not to bore the titties out of the spectators.

[cowpoos]

er Bob, the ol fellas back then were hard - compared to todays breed....... :rolleyes::woohoo:


I reckon...the old fellas would be fucking nakered after doing 30mins + on a modern superbike!! the fuckers are so much hard work!! they are lapping considerably faster...therefore the forces are considerably more!! and they are.

[limbimtimwim]

I reckon...the old fellas would be fucking nakered after doing 30mins + on a modern superbike!! the fuckers are so much hard work!! they are lapping considerably faster...therefore the forces are considerably more!! and they are.Stop stirring.

I'm going to be kind, I'll offer my services to you, riding your bike.

[Moss 16]

The Southland club run this every year, they run two 40 min races split but either track times or classes (cant quite remember but I’m sure f1,2 and 3 were in the same class with street stock, classics etc in the other).

No one needed fuel stops (I had around 7L in the tank of the 125 and still had some left at the end of it) and at 40 min you get a perspective of what it's like for the MotoGP guys but without the 30o+ heat.
They also managed to fit in about two rounds of sprint races afterwards too.

Hope it all happens endurance races are great fun and a real test of strength, I was absolutely knackered after 30min but really enjoyed it.

[limbimtimwim]

Get thee to the gym :scooter:and maybe we could hatch a plan for taking out the 400cc endurance title.:yes:Too slow with the other bikes out there.

We need to con someone into lending us their 600cc something.

[Robert Taylor]

Id talk to Vince Sharpe who ran the very last 2 hour race there. He put a lot into it with promotion etc and as I understand it the event made a loss. Id love to see endurance racing but you would need to go into it with eyes wide open re the cold hard reality of the costs against return. The reality is actually quite scary.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Great Idea!!!!!!!! (the endurance racing part that is)

But could you pick a shitter track to do it at? If I wanted to crash into some armco i'd go racing on the highway.

Personally, the sooner puke is either shutdown or bikes are banned from there the better.

[sidecar bob]

Oh dear, there has been a bit of softness creep into the sport in the last 20 years hasnt there.
People bleating about perhaps hurting themselves while racing a bike, Maybe getting a bit puffed from riding for a bit too long etc.
Honestly guys, HTFU!!
I did the Puke 2 hour on worlds 3rd GSXR1100 an old G model with chassis number 0000003, I got clocked at 248kmh on the backstraight on virtually every lap & finished respectably.
15 minutes on the sidecar is five times harder.
By the end of 2 hours you an the bike are absolutely one, The tyres are fucked & its bucking & weaving all over the place with the throttle pinned & you are so used to it that you dont give a fuck.
That would be the best riding i have ever done.

[sidecar bob]

I reckon...the old fellas would be fucking nakered after doing 30mins + on a modern superbike!! the fuckers are so much hard work!! they are lapping considerably faster...therefore the forces are considerably more!! and they are.

Umm 'Poos, So much hard work??? The fuckers actually work & the tyres stick, The suspension is FINE & they are light & nimble.
Dude!! The reason they are lapping faster is because they work better, i imagine the effort to operate them would be similar to 20 years ago.

[FROSTY]

Just bustin an idea out here. What if AMCC ran a meeting where every class got just one race. BUT every race was 30 laps
Thats roughly 30 minutes of racing per class. Not exactly endurance --but gee wouldn't it be different to sprint races

[cowpoos]

Umm 'Poos, So much hard work??? The fuckers actually work & the tyres stick, The suspension is FINE & they are light & nimble.
Dude!! The reason they are lapping faster is because they work better, i imagine the effort to operate them would be similar to 20 years ago.
yep thats true...but the G-forces are alot higher...especially under braking and power...much in the same way a new rig is faster and more demanding on the driver and passenger of 10+ years ago...

Maybe we can just agree to disagree?

[quallman1234]

Not pukie. Manfield, taupo , Hampton down's sweet as.

But not pukie!

[roogazza]

Id talk to Vince Sharpe who ran the very last 2 hour race there. He put a lot into it with promotion etc and as I understand it the event made a loss. Id love to see endurance racing but you would need to go into it with eyes wide open re the cold hard reality of the costs against return. The reality is actually quite scary.

I don't think they understand RT. G.

[scracha]

Oh dear, there has been a bit of softness creep into the sport in the last 20 years hasnt there.

When men were men...etc etc. What's wrong with us metrosexuals racing?



People bleating about perhaps hurting themselves while racing a bike,

Yeah, maybe I should go back to crossply tyres, drum brakes and flexi frames . Wankel norton meserschmidt mk3 for me it is then.



I did the Puke 2 hour on worlds 3rd GSXR1100 an old G model with chassis number 0000003, I got clocked at 248kmh on the backstraight on virtually

Aye aye, and you beat ze Nazi's too grandad.



15 minutes on the sidecar is five times harder.

Knew you'd throw that one in somewhere. Course it's not harder, you're cheating with that extra wheel and the co-pilot. Modern sidecars are rubbish anyway, I want to see real men racing BMW's with a machine gun in front off the passenger not these 3 wheeled formula one cars they have now.

[scrivy]

yep thats true...but the G-forces are alot higher...especially under braking and power...much in the same way a new rig is faster and more demanding on the driver and passenger of 10+ years ago...

Maybe we can just agree to disagree?

A new rig more demanding???? WTF?????
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...................... you get the point.

Poos, the new rigs are made for limp wristed fags that push pens during the week!! I would put $10,000 on one of the new rig riders (or passengers for that matter), to go as fast as me and Sideshow Bob on our old post classic machine!! Yes they are faster in a straight line, but why is it that we kicked their sorry asses at the twisty circuits and even set a new lap record to boot???!!!

They fuck around with suspension and ride heights, tyre pressures etc, FFS, we kick the tyres (seriously!), use old worn tyres, never adjust the suspension and have 10 times the amount of fun as they do. Oh, and the part I like, we spend $5 grand doing the Nats, and they spend....... well, they spend more than you make a year!!!! So, who has the most fun??? Who needs to have the most pristine looking machine out there? Who needs to have the best handling machine out there? Do spectators agree with your comments or mine? I mean, do they wanna see bucking and sliding, or machines like they are on rails???

All this niceness of machinery is making things very anal. I've said it before, I'd rather everyone race with twice the tyre pressures, no steering dampeners, the wrong suspension settings, etc, and just let the best rider use their own skills, rather than using the best parts money can buy.
No more chequebook racing!! :niceone:

[scrivy]

Modern sidecars are rubbish anyway, I want to see real men racing BMW's with a machine gun in front off the passenger not these 3 wheeled formula one cars they have now.

Well, Bobs already got the BMW post classic sidecar....... now, are you crazy enough to jump on the side with him and man the machine gun????? :lol:

[Quasievil]

I'm going to be kind, I'll offer my services to you, riding your bike.

What a RM250 ??? can I come and watch

[scracha]

Well, Bobs already got the BMW post classic sidecar....... now, are you crazy enough to jump on the side with him and man the machine gun????? :lol:

I'm game, spiders aside, I don't know the meaning of fear.

"Schnell Schnell, For you Kiwis, ze race is over."

In all seriousness though, the modern sidecars are just one big yawn for moi. Much more entertaining watching ye olde classics going up on two wheels (hell, I'm sure they go onto one sometimes) round Paeroa.

[driftn]

Not pukie. Manfield, taupo , Hampton down's sweet as.

But not pukie!

Soft.

Sign me up what a hoot i reckon.:jerry:

[sidecar bob]

I'm game, spiders aside, I don't know the meaning of fear.

"Schnell Schnell, For you Kiwis, ze race is over."

In all seriousness though, the modern sidecars are just one big yawn for moi.

Yup, Agreed, Modern sidecars are a total yawn, Like a dwarf in a pedal car.
Thats why in April this year, Scrivy & i politely declined an extremely generous offer from a very kind man to purchase on our behalf, one of the latest greatest sidecars from Europe, Preferring to continue to run the aincent machine that we already have (courtesy of the same gentleman) in the interests of creating greater amusement for both ourselves & the paying spectators.


Anyway, Back to the topic in hand, Two hour race, Taupo short new track, No rider swaps & no tyre changes.

[Kickaha]

Yup, Agreed, Modern sidecars are a total yawn, Like a dwarf in a pedal car.


How would you know when you haven't tried one, you were to soft to get on one at levels even though I would have gone out on the "post classic" :finger:

Since the demise of the 6 hour (which was helped along by the Superbikes) no none seems to have been able to sort out a decent endurance race in NZ that will run yearly, incororating one in a club round might be worth a try, although I lnow MCC don't get a real good response to the one at Ruapuna

[sidecar bob]

How would you know when you haven't tried one, you were to soft to get on one at levels even though I would have gone out on the "post classic" :finger:


Correction Mr Kickaha, I believe my exact comment if memory serves when being pressured to go on Daves pedal car at levels was "I didnt travel this far to go that slow".
And seeing as we kicked your guys arses into next week it turned out to be right.

[cowpoos]

What a RM250 ??? can I come and watch

rm"Z" 250 and ill come watch too!!

[Drew]

Enough of the pissing contest you lot. Chair riders are all very disturbed and cheats, they got three fuckin wheels. And Poos is just a loud mouth.

Bring on the two hour, need me a co rider...any plans that weekend NickO?

[sidecar bob]

Enough of the pissing contest you lot. Chair riders are all very disturbed and cheats, they got three fuckin wheels. And Poos is just a loud mouth.

Bring on the two hour, need me a co rider...any plans that weekend NickO?

Not another soft cock that has no trouble publicly admitting that he cant actually ride a bike for two hours without needing a butt buddy to help him out.
How about we all buy nice new pink skipping ropes & go down to the park girls?
Southpark could do a fantastic episode on this topic. :clap:

[Drew]

Not another soft cock that has no trouble publicly admitting that he cant actually ride a bike for two hours without needing a butt buddy to help him out.
How about we all buy nice new pink skipping ropes & go down to the park girls?
Southpark could do a fantastic episode on this topic. :clap:

You ever heard what they say about assumption matie?

I'd do it solo if the rules allowed, it'd near kill me with my fitness levels, but fuck if I'm lettin' some cheatin devient call me soft.

I'm a walking ambasador of HARDEN THE FUCK UP!!!

[sidecar bob]

You ever heard what they say about assumption matie?

I'd do it solo if the rules allowed, it'd near kill me with my fitness levels, but fuck if I'm lettin' some cheatin devient call me soft.

I'm a walking ambasador of HARDEN THE FUCK UP!!!

How is it possible for me to cheat, Im only friggin ballast ffs.
When did the rules change?
When i did the 2 hour it never even occured to me (or any other competitor) to have a butt buddy.
As i recall, some of the competitors were, Paul Pav, Richard Scott, Brian Bernard, Glenn Williams (The first one) Shaun Harris, Geoff McLaren, Andy Stroud, Tony Rees, & many other well known names.
Ahh, Great memories, As i recall i won enough money to pay the petrol home, Not much back then.

[BIHB@0610]

:corn:...:corn:...:corn:....

[sidecar bob]

:corn:...:corn:...:corn:....

:bleh::buggerd::msn-wink::2thumbsup
Watchya up to tonight planna? hehe.

[Drew]

How is it possible for me to cheat, Im only friggin ballast ffs. Third wheel on motorcycle=cheating.


As i recall, some of the competitors were, Paul Pav, Richard Scott, Brian Bernard, Glenn Williams (The first one) Shaun Harris, Geoff McLaren, Andy Stroud, Tony Rees, & many other well known names.
Ahh, Great memories, As i recall i won enough money to pay the petrol home, Not much back then.Crickey, sounds like the dinner reservation list at the retirement home. Move over and let some new blood at the sport fella.



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[sidecar bob]

Third wheel on motorcycle=cheating.
Crickey, sounds like the dinner reservation list at the retirement home. Move over and let some new blood at the sport fella.



Disclaimer.

Drews opinions, and sense of humor are not those of the site, unless you think he's right, or funny...


Move over for you young pricks??? Im not past it yet, NZ champ last year, second this year & first again next year, Theres still a bit of lead left in the old pencil yet fella!!

[Kickaha]

& first again next year,

Ah so it is true you are getting a LCR then :laugh:

Splitting a 2 hour ride is for poofters and Gixxer riders (same thing really)

Didn't Dom Jones ride solo and come in third in the last one at Puke?

[sidecar bob]

Ah so it is true you are getting a LCR then :laugh:


Look at your avatar dude, What do you think?

[Drew]

Move over for you young pricks??? Im not past it yet, NZ champ last year, second this year & first again next year, Theres still a bit of lead left in the old pencil yet fella!!

You were just balast before, now you're taking credit?!

Shit it's hard to converse with the senile, plus side though, I guess you're always meetin' new people eh?:Pokey:

[scracha]

Move over for you young pricks??? Im not past it yet, NZ champ last year, second this year & first again next year, Theres still a bit of lead left in the old pencil yet fella!!

I'm not saying you're past it but have you thought of a more suitable "chair"?

[ajturbo]

What a fabulous way it would be to learn my way around HAMPTON DOWNS. I s'pose it could be fun at Pukie, but I've never ridden there. It's a long way to go from little old Porirua but if it was a festive and fun occasion, I would give it serious consideration.
now that is an idea there matey...
we team up... i take the buell , you take the .. what is it you "ride"...?..lol

but i think "ONLY" a 2hr....
why 2?.. 3-4hr would really test me...

2 classes... one with early start, one with after lunch start...

[BIHB@0610]

You were just balast before, now you're taking credit?!

Shit it's hard to converse with the senile, plus side though, I guess you're always meetin' new people eh?:Pokey:

Hey senile people are great - I've heard they go all night as though it's the first time ........:devil2:

[BIHB@0610]

I'm not saying you're past it but have you thought of a more suitable "chair"?

I'm not saying anything .... but have you thought of a suitable one for yourself? p/t don't take it the wrong way ..... :whistle:

[CHOPPA]

count me in!

[scrivy]

Move over for you young pricks??? Im not past it yet, NZ champ last year, second this year & first again next year, Theres still a bit of lead left in the old pencil yet fella!!

WTF 1st???? You swinging for Divvo this year mate??? :laugh:

Lead in ya pencil???? With the amount of s@x that you get, you'd be worn out to the rubbery end wouldn't ya??? :shit:

[scrivy]

Crickey, sounds like the dinner reservation list at the retirement home. Move over and let some new blood at the sport fella.


ummm, Drew, I think that you'll find that experience (and age) does count in racing mate. All these young whipper snappers trying to knock the oldies off the top spots just doesn't work. :(
Now, quote me if I'm wrong, but.............
Has Andrew Stround been around for a long time? Is he past his use by date?? Shit no!!
Is Craig Shirriffs past it?? (Dare you tell him he is.....)
Has Terry Fitzgerald thrown in the towel?? um, no!!
Has Tony Rees lost his mojo on his guest rides?
I started racing in '87, and still set lap records this year, and won the title last year. Am I too old??

Let's see. If it wasn't for all us OLD bastards out there still, do you really think you'd have a National series?? What talented competition would you go to pay and watch?? If Stroud wasn't there setting things alight, would you get as many spectators?? If Craig didn't do Wangy this year, would there be annoyed spectators?? Think about what you're saying Drew, the so called oldies and hasbeens are still setting the benchmarks for the new talent that is gradually rising through.
If all the newbies spent as much time honing their racecraft and forgot about trying to impress everyone with how nice their steed is, as they do in spending hours typing crap on websites, then maybe, just maybe, some spring chickens might just knock off some of us old farts!!!
But I doubt it............ :lol:

Now, back to the porn sites........... :cool:

[roogazza]

ummm, Drew, I think that you'll find that experience (and age) does count in racing mate. All these young whipper snappers trying to knock the oldies off the top spots just doesn't work. :(
Now, quote me if I'm wrong, but.............
Has Andrew Stround been around for a long time? Is he past his use by date?? Shit no!!
Is Craig Shirriffs past it?? (Dare you tell him he is.....)
Has Terry Fitzgerald thrown in the towel?? um, no!!
Has Tony Rees lost his mojo on his guest rides?
I started racing in '87, and still set lap records this year, and won the title last year. Am I too old??

Let's see. If it wasn't for all us OLD bastards out there still, do you really think you'd have a National series?? What talented competition would you go to pay and watch?? If Stroud wasn't there setting things alight, would you get as many spectators?? If Craig didn't do Wangy this year, would there be annoyed spectators?? Think about what you're saying Drew, the so called oldies and hasbeens are still setting the benchmarks for the new talent that is gradually rising through.
If all the newbies spent as much time honing their racecraft and forgot about trying to impress everyone with how nice their steed is, as they do in spending hours typing crap on websites, then maybe, just maybe, some spring chickens might just knock off some of us old farts!!!
But I doubt it............ :lol:

Now, back to the porn sites........... :cool:

Woe , buddy, don't hold back ! they lose on the keyboard too ? LOL. Gaz.

[scrivy]

Woe , buddy, don't hold back ! they lose on the keyboard too ? LOL. Gaz.

You said it Gaz!!! Not me!!!

I'd like to pit some of the newbies up against some of the oldies on different types of equipment and do time trials. Let's see who'd come out on top!! :niceone:
As for the oldies, how many of them are blowing their own trumpets like the youngens are?? Do you hear Stroudy going on about who's ass he'll kick?? :oi-grr:

[roogazza]

The good ones don't make noise ! In fact most I have known are very quiet fellas who obviously think a lot.

Hey, the threads gone quiet what happened ? Gaz. :shutup:

[sidecar bob]

You said it Gaz!!! Not me!!!

Do you here Stroudy going on about who's ass he'll kick?? :oi-grr:

The conversation around our pit usually centres more around whos' pussy ya gonna lick rather than whos ass ya gonna kick.:bleh:

[White trash]

The good ones don't make noise ! In fact most I have known are very quiet fellas who obviously think a lot.

Hey, the threads gone quiet what happened ? Gaz. :shutup:
I'll kick all ya fuggin arses you old has-beens. Even do it one handed on me mums GN125. Old people shouldn't be allowed to even be at a race track for fear of a heart attack, let alone ride on one.

And yeah Scrivy, Shirriffs is past it. There, I said it.

Everyone happy?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sorry, probably should've clarified. Only F1 and F2 would race together in a 2 hour race. You might have a 20 minute Post Classic race and a half hour each 125 and F3 race for example.

As for others riding your bike, you look at it like this. Ya split the cost 50/50 REGARDLESS of who does what. That way it's equal risk, one rider doesn't stand to lose more than the other.

I've got a better idea. You supply the thou...I'll ride it wiff ya and I promise not to crash. Sort of.

[Deano]

I suggest a team points endurance race. Same rules as you suggest and only two teams.

< 40years old and 41 years old and over.

Same number of riders and bike class per team so it's all fair.

Winner shouts at the pub and gets bragging rights. That should settle it.

???????????

[White trash]

Do you here Stroudy going on about who's ass he'll kick?? :oi-grr:

No. But ironically, we do hear you doing it a fair bit mate.:D Funny old world aint it. And to be honest, I think a bit of charisma and arrogance is what's lacking in the solo pits. That's what makes the sidecar racing so interesting if you ask me, the fact that you're all good jokers that can have a laugh at each other and yourselves. Not quietly hiding in the back of your pits between races refusing to make eye contact.

Don't get me wrong, Andrew and Craig (for example) are both standup guys. Both have been friendly and helpfull towards helping me in my quest for competitive times. But if I was as good a rider as either of them, I'd be standing on a box outside my pit with a loud hailer proclaiming my superiority to one and al. (Not really but I wouldn't be shy about it)

By the way. "Hear" is spelt h e a r.

[scrivy]

By the way. "Hear" is spelt h e a r.

No, it's actually H a i r......... :clap:

[slowpoke]

I suggest a team points endurance race. Same rules as you suggest and only two teams.

< 40years old and 41 years old and over.

Same number of riders and bike class per team so it's all fair.

Winner shouts at the pub and gets bragging rights. That should settle it.

???????????


Way hey, now that is a fuggin' good idea....on lots of different levels. JAFA's vs the rest, North vs South, sexually inexperienced (<40) vs sexually adept (>40) etc etc.

Maybe even paired riders on separate bikes passing a wrist strap or summat rather than sharing the one bike, as I can see pit stops being fuggin' dangerous with rushed fuel stops and go-go juice go-going up in flames etc ....not to mention few people wanting to let someone else trash their bike.

[sidecar bob]

ummm, Drew, I think that you'll find that experience (and age) does count in racing mate. All these young whipper snappers trying to knock the oldies off the top spots just doesn't work. :(
Now, quote me if I'm wrong, but.............
Has Andrew Stround been around for a long time? Is he past his use by date?? Shit no!!
Is Craig Shirriffs past it?? (Dare you tell him he is.....)
Has Terry Fitzgerald thrown in the towel?? um, no!!
Has Tony Rees lost his mojo on his guest rides?
I started racing in '87, and still set lap records this year, and won the title last year. Am I too old??

Let's see. If it wasn't for all us OLD bastards out there still, do you really think you'd have a National series?? What talented competition would you go to pay and watch?? If Stroud wasn't there setting things alight, would you get as many spectators?? If Craig didn't do Wangy this year, would there be annoyed spectators?? Think about what you're saying Drew, the so called oldies and hasbeens are still setting the benchmarks for the new talent that is gradually rising through.
If all the newbies spent as much time honing their racecraft and forgot about trying to impress everyone with how nice their steed is, as they do in spending hours typing crap on websites, then maybe, just maybe, some spring chickens might just knock off some of us old farts!!!
But I doubt it............ :lol:

Now, back to the porn sites........... :cool:

Err, Dude, it was a leg pull, Drew & i were having a giggle about it via the rep system.
But yeah, A lot of truth in what you say.

[sidecar bob]

I suggest a team points endurance race. Same rules as you suggest and only two teams.

< 40years old and 41 years old and over.

Same number of riders and bike class per team so it's all fair.

Winner shouts at the pub and gets bragging rights. That should settle it.

???????????

NOOOO, Loser shouts at the pub. Bring it on pal, Youre mum might need to chip in a bit for the piss tho, Your after school job might not earn you enough to shout some serious old pisstanks.

[Rossi Gal]

Bloody hell..count me in!! I've always wanted to do some sort of enduro race...

Deano..pub sounds like a good idea ;) haha

And I agree that it should be two riders, one bike..and a good crew :) haha

[scrivy]

NOOOO, Loser shouts at the pub. Bring it on pal, Youre mum might need to chip in a bit for the piss tho, Your after school job might not earn you enough to shout some serious old pisstanks.

Bob, for you, I think the losers will shout the after-do slappers !!!! :woohoo:
Forget how many kens you can go through - we wanna know how many slappers you can do!!!!! :wari:

[enigma51]

If i can get a ride i will be keen to be back marker!

And the pub afterwards sounds good

[enigma51]

Bloody hell..count me in!! I've always wanted to do some sort of enduro race...

Deano..pub sounds like a good idea ;) haha

And I agree that it should be two riders, one bike..and a good crew :) haha

Ill be your second rider :Punk:

[Rossi Gal]

Choice!!! ;) haha, be an awesome day racing!!

[Shaun]

I read (and have discussed) about a possibility of a 2 hour race at Puke as part of the AMCC club champs this year. Mandatory 2 riders, none of this iron man bullshit.

Should such an event happen, who's gonna be keen?

Speaking to "people in the know", they envisage that the focus will be on FUN, and turning the round into a team event rather than any expectations of televised "Endurance" racing.

So who's up?

Where the fuck do I sign?

Also, who' be keen on paying the meagre ten bucks entry fee to spectate fora days entertainment?



I am fit and back on TRACK by August dude, if ya want a has been on board with ya

[enigma51]

Choice!!! ;) haha, be an awesome day racing!!

I will even wear some pink stuff so that we can be the girls team :rolleyes:

[wharfy]

Not sure what you mean by iron man bullshit, 2 hour races were ridden solo when i was running a 2 wheeler. The last race i ever did on 2 wheels was the Pukekohe 2 hour i think '88 or '89.
FFS, There are some race results posted on this site from around 1980 where Robbie Dean did a Castrol 6 hour solo.

I seem to remember that Ginger Molly WON the first Castrol 6 hour rding solo

[Big Chim]

Dispite visitng the wall recently at puke i'd be keen as!!!!!

saw the 24hr thing on top gear to, got me psyked!!

[DEATH_INC.]

< 40years old and 41 years old and over.

Wassamatter???? Scared of us old fellas????

[DEATH_INC.]

I read (and have discussed) about a possibility of a 2 hour race at Puke as part of the AMCC club champs this year. Mandatory 2 riders, none of this iron man bullshit.
So who's up?
Get that blond poofter to team up with me and I'll be in!
Or maybe me 'n Luke could team up.....team SRAD.... look out!

[codgyoleracer]

Third wheel on motorcycle=cheating.
Crickey, sounds like the dinner reservation list at the retirement home. Move over and let some new blood at the sport fella.



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Drews opinions, and sense of humor are not those of the site, unless you think he's right, or funny...


Actually - that was my first ever Endurance race, & get this Glenn Williams finished first in the production 600 class on a GPZ600R & Glen Williams finished 2nd in the production 600 class on a GPZ600R..........(confused a few at the time that one) :-)

GW (the 2nd)

[Drew]

Actually - that was my first ever Endurance race, & get this Glenn Williams finished first in the production 600 class on a GPZ600R & Glen Williams finished 2nd in the production 600 class on a GPZ600R..........(confused a few at the time that one) :-)

GW (the 2nd)

Small world, we've got Glen Williams sponsorship.

[codgyoleracer]

Small world, we've got Glen Williams sponsorship.

Geez, - I was wondering where that automatic payment going out of my account was heading every week...... :-)

[BIGBOSSMAN]

Hey, is this still on?

[Gremlin]

Hey, is this still on?
Yes, it is currently confirmed. I don't know details, what format they are running etc, but it will take place in early 09 iirc.

[Drew]

Do we know when the details will be sorted? Early 09 is a busy time for racing already, particularly for BEARS.

[jimbo600]

BEARS yay, no jappers rock on!

And somedates would be good so I can lie to work and tell them I'm overseas so the fuckers don't wreck that weeekend.

[driftn]

Get that blond poofter to team up with me and I'll be in!
Or maybe me 'n Luke could team up.....team SRAD.... look out!


I like your style.


Look out is an understatment

[Gremlin]

I believe it could be last weekend of april...