Student vs Teacher

[nudemetalz]

When you were young, did you ever have an argument with your teacher where you were right and they were wrong?

I was and still am aviation mad. When I was 10, Standard 4 in old school terms, my teacher told the class that NAC (remember them, the old NZ airline?) stood for National Airways CO-OPERATION.
I said "Not right, it stands for National Airways CORPORATION". I knew this because I had every book known to man to do with aviation.
Anyway, the teacher wouldn't buy it and told me to shut up.
I told another teacher about it who knew that I was correct and he got the aforementioned teacher to apologise to me.
Ha, mud on your face a-hole !!!!!! :bash:

Anyone else got a story like that?

[Disco Dan]

Do you think that every teacher know everything there is too know?? :spanking:

[nudemetalz]

Hey I was 10. It was cool.
Of course I wouldn't do that now.

[007XX]

Do you think that every teacher know everything there is too know?? :spanking:

Most certainly not, but they most definitely should have the intelligence to acknowledge that possibility and encourage a healthy debate with research of facts with the student to back their knowledge / opinion.

Having the attitude that their word is supreme and cannot be questioned can only foster a resentment counter productive to healthy respect and learning from the student's point of view.



To answer your original question Nude, I had a similar situation some years ago, which unfortunately led to me being kicked into the Principal's office for explanation. I refused to back down from an argument on a point of my birth country's history. The teacher was fresh from France and knew fuck all, but still thought he knew better than someone who was a local.
Anyway, long story short, he ahd to apologise to me, my parents (for issuing me a warning notice) and two months later moved back to France! :devil2: Fuckwit!

[rachprice]

My flatmate argued with her nursing lecturer because she said something wrong about fetal alcohol syndrome.
My flatmate having done an anatomy degree had studyied neurobiology and FAS, KNEW she was wrong. The lecturer wouldn't believe her or even listen to what she had to say and it escalated then she said 'fuck this is bullshit.' The lecturer took offence to the swearing and reported her. She had to go to the dean and they cleared up that Jo (flatmate) was indeed right but still had to do a letter of apology.
There is no way in hell I would have apologised, but she did, not that she admitted that she was wrong, just that she shouldn't have sworn which I guess was the best way.

[RiderInBlack]

She had to go to the dean and they cleared up that Jo (flatmate) was indeed right but still had to do a letter of apology.
There is no way in hell I would have apologised, but she did, not that she admitted that she was wrong, just that she shouldn't have sworn which I guess was the best way.An unfortunate part of doing a Deg is having ta chow down sometimes just so ya can pass. Did Bach Of Human Science (Nursing) up here. The worse bit was the so called "Open Discussion" on the Treaty Of Waitangi and Maori Health. Ya soon worked out that the best thing ta do was mouth the bullshit they wanted from ya, rather than state ya real views. One Girl decided to reserve her right not to comment and got hassled badly by the Tutors and some of the other Students for that. Made me so discussed in that part of the course. She didn't get failed, but made ya think what would have happened if one of us had truly said as we felt.

[Headbanger]

I always found it a bit crap that you could pick up a newspaper and read of events that directly conflicted with the information coming from the text books.

Use the up to date data and you get marked as wrong.....

[R6_kid]

Mine was aviation related too... My social studies said that the RNZAF had never had aircraft capable of supersonic speeds... I told her she was wrong, luckily for her i'd been in her class the year before and she knew I was aviation mad, and that the old man was an aircraft tech in the Air Force. I told her that the skyhawk is capable of going supersonic in a dive... and that there is a story of an RNZAF 727 aircrew being naughty and actually managing to do the same on one particular occasion.:Pokey:

[R6_kid]

An unfortunate part of doing a Deg is having ta chow down sometimes just so ya can pass.

It's like that all through English at school. You have to report how a particular text coveyed to you and what you though of it... of course it's far far easy to say that it gave you warm fuzzies than that you thought it was shite and that you hate reading (not that i did)...

Just like when I answered a question about 'describe a particular part of the film you studied that showed blah blah blah' just so happened that the part I used had naughty words in it (which i chose not to omit) and what was an otherwise decent couple of paragraphs earned a big fat fail.

[Toaster]

I'd like to know why my interpretation of some gay poem was "wrong" if it was my bloody interpretation.... not that I am still bitter.

[avgas]

When i was like 15 i did a short story for english class. It was probably one of the best pieces of writing i have done in my life. But very disturbing writing. Short story even shorter it was about me stalking prey and then finally killing it and it screaming to death..........as it happened in real life with a rabbit (yes i used rabbit at the end of my story).
Teacher said it was too disturbing, and that no books written to that level ever get awards.........i get a 1/10 for my story.
I complain, teacher states (in front of the principal) that its not the content (which he states is fantastic) its the fact that the story is disturbing. And not "story" material.
Headmaster reads it - thinks its fantastic, tells teach to go read "Silence of the Lambs" or something by "Dean Koontz"........i do the same out of interest.
I get 9/10 (i had some spelling mistakes)

[BuFfY]

I am a teacher and I am always right.

haha


When I was ten, one of the girls in my class told my teacher that when she asked me to borrow my ruler I told her to get on her knees and beg. I got in heaps of trouble with my teacher and had to sit outside etc even though I told him I didn't do it. I kept telling him I would never do anything like that and eventually she caved and told the truth. He ended up apologising to me. It felt awesome for him to admit to me he was wrong infront of all my classmates.

[PrincessBandit]

I have no problem apologising to students if the necessity ever arises (mine are secondary school level). Years of learning, on my part, have meant that dealing with teenagers in a pedantic way is a sure fire recipe for having to eat humble pie somewhere down the track. In my experience most students will have more respect for you if you can admit that you might not have been right (note, I cleverly avoided the word 'wrong' lol) and that they were correct.
Has also been good with dealing with my own children....

[BuFfY]

I have no problem apologising to students if the necessity ever arises (mine are secondary school level). Years of learning, on my part, have meant that dealing with teenagers in a pedantic way is a sure fire recipe for having to eat humble pie somewhere down the track. In my experience most students will have more respect for you if you can admit that you might not have been right (note, I cleverly avoided the word 'wrong' lol) and that they were correct.
Has also been good with dealing with my own children....

Yeah I agree. It also helps them to realise that there is nothing wrong with being wrong some times, and we are human and can still learn new stuff!

[martybabe]

Not quite the same but a dose of teacher arrogance. My youngest daughter told me she was being bullied by an individual at school, this was confirmed by my eldest daughter who had witnessed physical attacks by the bully from the adjoining play ground.

Off to school to sort out the situation. Told the Teach my daughter was being bullied by Mary, teach says, no she isn't , no bullying at my school! wtf. Er yes she is, She says so and my other girl has witnessed it. Here's the best bit, teach says, You should know better than to believe little girls and there lies.

:gob: No trial, no investigation, my girls were liars and I was a gullible fool of a parent. Anyways, biting my tongue I insisted she dealt with it and Mary was sent for.

Teach bends down to Mary to begin the one question inquisition to prove how right she was. "Mary, I know this is silly but do you bully Annie at all?"

Of course everyone expects, no miss but the little fat monkey says " yes miss every day, I like to strangle her"

What occurred next is to blue to print but miss oh so arrogant judge Judy witch bitch, was left in no doubt that I would hold her personally responsible for any recurrence of said bullying or indeed any recurrence of her arrogant, pissy self righteous attitude to me or my family. :argh:

[Steam]

...there is a story of an RNZAF 727 aircrew being naughty and actually managing to do the same on one particular occasion...
Whaaaat? I don't believe a 727 fuselage could stand it, surely not?

[P38]

Hey I was 10. It was cool.
Of course I wouldn't do that now.

I remember NAC Hostesses were Hot As.:yes::yes::yes:

[FLYMO]

only went to school to eat my lunch and get a peek of lace or two down the back of the school pool at the end of term

[ManDownUnder]

My Step Father (RIP) was my Engineering Maths Tutor when I was serving my apprenticeship. Step Father/Sons are meant to fight like cats and dogs anyway, but he was really old school "What I say is right because I'm the master and you're the apprentice"

Sooo... one day he made the mistake of saying vector addition has to be done in a strict sequence (i.e. it's commutative)... so me being A grade smart arse respectfully raised my hand and told him I thought he was wrong.

He snarled and growled, insisted he was right etc, and I offered a simple proof on the board
Vector A + Vector B + Vector C = Vector D
ooo and look...
Vector C+ Vector A+ Vector B = Vector D too...

sarcasm"... hey I was right!!!" /sarcasm *snarl hiss spit fimble grumble*...

Aaaa well... it seemed a good idea at the time. I'm still not sure it was really a bad idea TBH

[Tank]

My PE Teacher was an arse hole.

I met him at the Gym a couple of years after leaving school. He was still the rude and ignorant bastard he was in school.

He joined in some kickboxing training that I had been going to for quite some time.

He lasted 2mins of a 3 minute round. One of the happiest days on my early 20's :Punk:

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

I taught myself to sew at a very young age - so at intermediate - we had sewing classes - the teacher was fresh out of college. We had to make a draw-string skirt - basically a square piece of fabric with rope around the waistband (like pyjama trou). Like I would wear anything that ghastly NOT. I chose this denim fabric with strawberries on it - now I knew that the strawberries had to go upright - the stupid bitch wouldn't let me cut it out - I told her she was doing it wrong but no she cut it out - so the back had the strawberries upside down and the front they were right side up. I left the thing in her class room. I had been making my own suits - I remember I had made a black velvet skirt and waistcoat - I was 12 going on 13 - 5'9 and looked much older - cos I got into Saturday nite fever (5 o'clock session) and that was R16 - it helped that my brother's friend was 6'4. Oh Miss Cool I thought on my Cruiser pushbike lol.

I think that was the only time my mum went ballistic and supported me.

[Gremlin]

I'd like to know why my interpretation of some gay poem was "wrong" if it was my bloody interpretation....
hahahahaha, only fight I ever had with a teacher that I can remember was some art woman (not too surprising, considering I always failed miserably at poetry, pe and art).

We were drawing something or other as required, and I was drawing away, she was doing the rounds. Came past me, and disagreed with the way I had drawn something. Rubbed out what I had drawn, and drew it her way.

She walked on, and I thought, hold on, this is MY drawing... and rubbed it out and re-did. Needless to say, she wasn't impressed on the next pass, and demanded to know why I had un-done her work. I told her, you told me to draw something, and I am, my way. If you don't like what I have done, why don't you do the whole thing?

Funny... we never got on after that, and I naturally failed the achievement portion of the course (participation etc was always an A or B). I didn't care... I can still only draw stick figures, and they work fine :yes:

[Sketchy_Racer]

Eh, I always got kicked outta class before I had a chance to get in a argument!!

[Skyryder]

When I went to school the teacher was 'always' right.............he had the strap or the cane.

Skyryder

[marty]

in the 3rd form i did a big assignment on the Niger River, which flows through Northern African countries, including Niger.

my teacher crossed EVERY refence to Niger out, and replaced it with Nigger, then failed me for failing to research it thoroughly.
funnily enough, due to the research i did, i became so interested in that area, that i visited northern/western africa as soon as i was old enough to travel independently!

[ital916]

Hot teachers are always right :innocent:.

[Number One]

I loved arguing with teachers but only the ones that taught subjects I sucked at and/or the teachers I just couldn't stand.

You know how some just manage to push all your buttons to the point where you just want to be a difficult arse to them :laugh: Still remember poor Mr SMall organ Morgan and his underarm sweat patches.

BUT anyway - this thread reminded me of a situation in English. Funny little Scottish woman as teacher and the whole class was just being totally unruly so the main offender was kicked out. ANyway he stood at the door knocking saying Mrs .... Mrs ... let me in...and she replied Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin at which point my friend (at the time) yells out - YEs I noticed that Mrs ... you should bleach! :lol:

Talk about stop the room cold :laugh: poor woman - I feel bad for her thinking about it now but fark it were funny and she just used to push the group everytime with similar results.

[Mikkel]

I've never ever questioned a teacher :shutup:

[Patch]

Whaaaat? I don't believe a 727 fuselage could stand it, surely not?
Fuckin A it can, and it did.


It only had 3 passengers, Pilot, Co-Pilot and an Aircraft Engineer and no passenger seats, a test flight of sorts, can't remember exact specifics.
But it will do it in a near vertical dive.

You'd be surprised what pressures run through an aircraft's frame under "normal" load.

[Pex Adams]

Hot teachers are always right :innocent:.

The reason is you're never listening to them... I know I've can't remember a word Ms Hancock said:drool::drool::drool:!

[James Deuce]

I punched my PE teacher in his enormous diving coach gut. It did nothing but make a point, and to his credit he did realise he'd gone one step too far with his taunting and public humiliation. It also stopped that kid with the Karate brown belt from beating me up in the changing sheds.

[PrincessBandit]

...
You know how some just manage to push all your buttons to the point where you just want to be a difficult arse to them :laugh: ...
Talk about stop the room cold :laugh: poor woman - I feel bad for her thinking about it now but fark it were funny and she just used to push the group everytime with similar results.

I have been on the receiving end of "pack" mentality female students - many many years ago when I was working as a long-term reliever at a South Auckland high school. I know relievers are particularly tasty targets, but these girls were out for my blood. Not sure why - perhaps they just had that killer "spot the bright eyed, bushy tailed idealist/want -to -actually-help-you" instinct. Whatever it was I had them for a double period twice a week and they were intent on making my life miserable. Almost had a breakdown as a result of their behaviour, but looking back it certainly shaped me to be the teacher I am today - still a bit of an idealist but not afraid to tell them to get over themselves or call their bluff when they start their hormonal posturing.