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Coyote
4th January 2005, 08:50
How many of you guys wear Fluoro Vests while riding?
Sensei
4th January 2005, 08:59
No it make's it to easy to find me when I'm do 300k runner's ;) LOL
SENSEI
El Dopa
4th January 2005, 09:02
Yeah, I wear one, because most of my riding time is in urban areas, and 'oops sorry I didn't see you' are not the last words I want to hear in this life.
I'd rather look stupid and stay alive, rather than gain some dubious 'cool' points and run a greater risk of being knocked of by some half-blind commuter.
Coyote
4th January 2005, 09:03
It's a damned shame my mum has forced me to wear a vest (she will take away the keys if I refuse to wear one). I have a black bike, black leathers, black helmet and black boots. I could've been a total badass
Sensei
4th January 2005, 09:23
Get yourself one of the brightest Helmet's you can find & all way's ride with your light's ON !!! SENSEI :shifty:
Warren
4th January 2005, 09:30
I'm too cool to wear a wear fluoro vest.
Coyote
4th January 2005, 09:33
I'm too cool to wear a wear fluoro vest.
But Fluoro Jackets are the pinnacle of fashion. If anything, fluoro vests are cooler than you
:lol:
Bounty
4th January 2005, 09:33
I don't wear a vest but have thought about it after a couple of near misses. They also say that white is the most visible helmet.
It's a damned shame my mum has forced me to wear a vest (she will take away the keys if I refuse to wear one). I have a black bike, black leathers, black helmet and black boots. I could've been a total badass
hehe wonder how popular Streetfighter would look if he wore all black...and a vest :no:
You could always ride down the street a bit then remove it :sneaky2: but then your mum would end up killing you anyways if she found out.
crashe
4th January 2005, 09:44
Well I have got the white helmet.....
I am looking at getting the limegreen vest and the strips on the back of it..
Just been procastinating about getting it... and it, then has to fit over the jacket... so its gonna be a huge size. I do keep eyeing up those guys wearing them on the side of the road.... and think hmmmm I shall whip it off him and he won't even see me doing it...lol but alas they are so much bigger than me.... and they might beat me up...lol...... so I have to head to the safety shop and check out the prices....
I want the lime one not the orange one...... Lime would be seen further away than the orange one I reckon.
Riff Raff
4th January 2005, 10:11
I wear one during the hours of darkness.
onearmedbandit
4th January 2005, 10:28
My two piece Alpinestars suit is in blue, white and black, so I stand out pretty well anyway. Shit, now that I think about it, blue/white bike, blue/white suit, blue/white gloves, blue/white helmet. Arrgh, I think I might be a fashion victim!
Bonez
4th January 2005, 10:45
My two piece Alpinestars suit is in blue, white and black, so I stand out pretty well anyway. Shit, now that I think about it, blue/white bike, blue/white suit, blue/white gloves, blue/white helmet. Arrgh, I think I might be a fashion victim!Lol Yip. ;)
Coyote
4th January 2005, 11:01
I am looking at getting the limegreen vest and the strips on the back of it..
I found out when my dad was trying to get a vest for me, your only allowed to wear orange vests now as green and yellow fluoro vests are researved for the emergency services
Also, orange is now the new gay colour, huzzah!
ALTRON
4th January 2005, 11:20
I always think its a biker cop coming from a distance.
MSTRS
4th January 2005, 11:25
How many of you guys wear Fluoro Vests while riding?
Not safe enough if I hit the road. I'll stick with the tried & true leathers thanks:sly:
scumdog
4th January 2005, 11:32
My two piece Alpinestars suit is in blue, white and black, so I stand out pretty well anyway. Shit, now that I think about it, blue/white bike, blue/white suit, blue/white gloves, blue/white helmet. Arrgh, I think I might be a fashion victim!
Broken patterns like your modern trendy types wear actually blend in quite easy witha colourful city background, solid colour is best.
I notice a lot of touring types down here wearing flouro vests, unfortunately the visibility advantage is lost 'cos a hell of a lot of them have a large 'screen/fairing on front of them and/or a large top-box or tent etc behind them. :crazy:
scumdog
4th January 2005, 11:34
I wear black but have headlight and two 'spot' lights on at all times during day and just headlight at night - too much glare from the spots at night.
justsomeguy
4th January 2005, 11:38
I got reflective bits all over my Jacket........
Otherwise it's black everything including the bike....... except the helmet which is Kawasaki green..... with the usual HJC graphics.
And my headlight is always on ...... I also drift from side to side in the lane until I see the cage in front of me look at their rear-view mirrors...... these are subtle movements not big I'm a hoon let me pass moves.......
But a fluoro vest ......... maybe after my first accident...........
James Deuce
4th January 2005, 11:41
I published a link in a post about a year ago to a UK Government task force that researched motorcycle safety and came to the conclusion that fluoro vests were a bad idea because 90% of road users surveyed expected people to be stationary or moving at a walking pace when wearing one. This caused them to misjudge the approach speed to the motorcycle quite badly.
justsomeguy
4th January 2005, 11:45
I published a link in a post about a year ago to a UK Government task force that researched motorcycle safety and came to the conclusion that fluoro vests were a bad idea because 90% of road users surveyed expected people to be stationary or moving at a walking pace when wearing one. This caused them to misjudge the approach speed to the motorcycle quite badly.
Funny you say that........... now that I think of it I usually think ........ road works, breath test, accident, etc.... until I figure out it is only one vest and that it is not stationary.
scumdog
4th January 2005, 11:48
Funny you say that........... now that I think of it I usually think ........ road works, breath test, accident, etc.... until I figure out it is only one vest and that it is not stationary.
Just common sense but unfortunately it is NOT common :doh:
Hey, how come the lyrics in your signature make more sense than mine?
bane
4th January 2005, 11:53
did wear one all the time when my license wasnt quite kosher - was convinced that cops were impressed, and as such were less likely to pull you over and check your details... Seemed to work - five checkpoints (alcohol, WOF) without one license check
Now with license sorted, only wear vest in poor weather conditions, at nite, and anytime going through Auckland (who have the most visually challenged cage drivers in the known universe :angry:
Zapf
4th January 2005, 12:01
Stats over seas have indicated that silver cagers are lease likely to be involved in accidents... hence... Silver helmet..
White ones look dorky
moko
4th January 2005, 12:11
Yeah, I wear one, because most of my riding time is in urban areas, and 'oops sorry I didn't see you' are not the last words I want to hear in this life.
I'd rather look stupid and stay alive, rather than gain some dubious 'cool' points and run a greater risk of being knocked of by some half-blind commuter.
I dont but I will be very soon mate for the same reasons,totally pissed-off with taking evasive action 2 or 3 times a week.I can pick up one the same as the Police here wear pretty cheaply,the average dork driver here dosnt give a toss about maiming a biker but if they think they`ll get nicked they think twice.I had a bike once that I bought from a Riding Instructor,white fairing with flouro stripes down the side same as the Police,you wouldn`t believe how considerate everyone else on the road suddenly became.
Blakamin
4th January 2005, 13:17
I wear black and flat-black... but have a loud red bike and a headlight
750Y
4th January 2005, 14:11
Stats over seas have indicated that silver cagers are lease likely to be involved in accidents... hence... Silver helmet..
White ones look dorky
that's good news to me, I have a silver bike & a white helmet! i guess i look like a dork tho, oh well, whats new... lol.
Monsterbishi
4th January 2005, 14:35
Not much point in a bright vest since my Jacket has reflective piping through it anyway...
James Deuce
4th January 2005, 14:57
Not much point in a bright vest since my Jacket has reflective piping through it anyway...
Plus your bike would blind the taste sensitive anyway (Grumble - still annoyed he bought my bike).
Bounty
4th January 2005, 16:14
I wear black but have headlight and two 'spot' lights on at all times during day and just headlight at night - too much glare from the spots at night.
You watch some of these cop shows, Police 10-7, Motorway Patrol etc and despite their yellow and blue livery and blues and twos going, cars still refusing to move out of their way when they just want to get past, so what hope has a bike got even with fluros.
I think fluros and white helmets may help to a degree, but you can't assume that by having these things gives you what you hope they will achieve.
I ride like every bastard can't see me.
For example:
If a car is just in front of me I will speed up so I am in his field of vision, rather than in a blind spot. Looking at a vehicle reversing and thinking, shit bet he doesn't know I am here, more often I am right than wrong.
You often have to be so aware of your surroundings, if you let your guard down is the moment you become vunerable.
So far this has worked for me.
I am probably preaching to the converted, but hey it give meone more post!
MSTRS
4th January 2005, 16:20
For example:
If a car is just in front of me I will speed up so I am in his field of vision, rather than in a blind spot. Looking at a vehicle reversing and thinking, shit bet he doesn't know I am here, more often I am right than wrong.
This is a bit off topic, but I like to ride where I can see the driver in front's eyes in both main & right wing mirror (that's if I can't pass right away)
El Dopa
4th January 2005, 16:56
I had a bike once that I bought from a Riding Instructor,white fairing with flouro stripes down the side same as the Police,you wouldn`t believe how considerate everyone else on the road suddenly became.
I always think its a biker cop coming from a distance.
Another good reason to wear them. I saw a guy once that had a flouro yellow rain slicker, just like the HP patrol ones, with the silver stripes and the blue/silver text patch on the back. Except his text read 'PEACE'.
I think fluros and white helmets may help to a degree, but you can't assume that by having these things gives you what you hope they will achieve.
I ride like every bastard can't see me.
You often have to be so aware of your surroundings, if you let your guard down is the moment you become vunerable.
True, Anyone see the episode of 'Motorway cops' where the car drove into the back of the Maintenance Wagon, which had a 10 foot high orange flashing light display on the back of it?
I ride like every bastard can't see me, but I wear the fluoro vest because I want to cut down the number that haven't seen me and thus the number of times that I might have to take evasive action if push comes to shove. I'd prefer that 99 out of 100 road zombies know where I am, rather than, say, 90 out of 100.
Hitcher
4th January 2005, 17:00
Get yourself one of the brightest helmet's you can find
Harrumph!!!
Coyote
4th January 2005, 17:01
I published a link in a post about a year ago to a UK Government task force that researched motorcycle safety and came to the conclusion that fluoro vests were a bad idea because 90% of road users surveyed expected people to be stationary or moving at a walking pace when wearing one. This caused them to misjudge the approach speed to the motorcycle quite badly.
OK, gonna dump the vest now :eek5:
avgas
4th January 2005, 17:01
Im tempted to wear a fluro vest.
Just resprayed my bike to a bright metallic blue from a black for increased visiblity.
I just about got hit on a site though and i was wearing a vest standing on the side of the road......so im still abit 50/50 about them.
While the average driver will see them, some still wont
El Dopa
4th January 2005, 17:02
I published a link in a post about a year ago to a UK Government task force that researched motorcycle safety and came to the conclusion that fluoro vests were a bad idea because 90% of road users surveyed expected people to be stationary or moving at a walking pace when wearing one. This caused them to misjudge the approach speed to the motorcycle quite badly.
Interesting. However, I'd have to have a good read of the report before changing my mind. I'd prefer someone behind me (about the only area a flouro vest is actually going to have any effect) to think I'm stationary and slow down, rather than not wear one and have someone smack me off my bike from behind.
Coyote
4th January 2005, 17:28
Im tempted to wear a fluro vest.
Just resprayed my bike to a bright metallic blue from a black for increased visiblity.
Bit off topic, how much did the respray cost or was it a D.I.Y job?
Zapf
4th January 2005, 17:33
that's good news to me, I have a silver bike & a white helmet! i guess i look like a dork tho, oh well, whats new... lol.
opps... sorry. :blah:
slob
4th January 2005, 18:44
You wouldn't catch me alive or otherwise in those vests.. yuck! :sick: I believe that my safety is my responsibility and I just assume that other traffic can't see me (I suffer from lack of faith in others' abilities esp. cagers). If I really need to be noticed (e.g. at an intersection) I flash my lights and blip my throttle and stuff...
Holy Roller
4th January 2005, 19:39
I wear one 90 % of the time as its a requirement for work. Its easier to have on one over the leathers to walk around the site. The other times are usually when I'm out for a ride then I usually have a denium vest or oilskin vest over the jacket. Yep I have a white helmet as well just for the record.
Gixxer 4 ever
4th January 2005, 20:09
How many of you guys wear Fluoro Vests while riding?
No thanks. :mellow: It is hard enough to blend in to the crowd when you bunch up after Mr plod has done a U turn. You really do not want to have a flag on saying "IT WAS ME." :niceone:
MSTRS
4th January 2005, 20:14
Come on Steve now. Play fair for the nice :Police:
Jackrat
4th January 2005, 20:47
You wouldn't catch me alive or otherwise in those vests.. yuck! :sick: I believe that my safety is my responsibility and I just assume that other traffic can't see me (I suffer from lack of faith in others' abilities esp. cagers). If I really need to be noticed (e.g. at an intersection) I flash my lights and blip my throttle and stuff...
This is sort of my own approach to hi vis vests as well.
I don't think the person that sees you but then choses to ignore you because your just on a bike and present little threat to them will act any differently just because your wearing a vest.Remember that thing we all get now an then,the arsehole that passes other cars coming toward us on the open road.That scumbag has seen us but made the desision that we will get out of his way because he's bigger than us.He's not going to change his behaviour just because he can see us better.The liars that claim they didn't see the biker they just spread all over the road will still claim not to have seen us,vest or not.
I think that if somebody wants to wear a Hivis vest,more power to them.Same goes for head lights,but I don't belive it makes a difference.
A simple law change could prove this point.In japan,"I didn't see him" is an instant addmission of careless driving and carrys a VERY high price.
Guess what,It doesn't happen there like it does here.
Head lights and vests also give car drivers an out if they wipeout a biker not useing either.
I bet anything it's been said already"but officer I didn't see him "he didn't have his head light/vest on.
The next question the cop would ask should be obvious.
Trucks pullout on 4x4s,4x4s pullout on cars,cars pullout on bikes.
It's got NOTHING to do with visability.
Cajun
5th January 2005, 06:43
Well when riding around town i wear my port of tauranga jacket which is fluro yellow, when not i am wearing yellow/black leathers, so i not to hard to miss on the yellow bike dc:<
Firefight
5th January 2005, 06:47
Well when riding around town i wear my port of tauranga jacket which is fluro yellow, when not i am wearing yellow/black leathers, so i not to hard to miss on the yellow bike dc:<
:sick: :sick: :puke: :puke: were you in Rotovagas the other day Neal ?
F/F
Yokai
5th January 2005, 07:01
I wear a hi-vis vest that a mate gave me when I am doing:
a) a really long trip with night-time riding
b) a ride in the rain
Cos both of those mean that people see me more. With good vis and dry roads, if they're gonna hit you they're gonna hit you (my 2nd cousin got wiped out in the UK wearing hi-vis... Drunk driver - arsehole.)
Motu
5th January 2005, 07:17
The biggest problem I have with fluro vests,headlights on etc is the mental assumtion of the rider - goody,I've got my headlight and my fluro vest on and now all the cars can see me...wrong!!! Like Slob and Jack I don't care whether I'm wearing fluro or camoflage,my assumption is that they can't see me.
Wear what you like,but DON'T think ''they can see me now''.
Yokai
5th January 2005, 07:20
Wear what you like,but DON'T think ''they can see me now''.
Agreed. But they can "see me more".
Anything to be more visible in poor vis conditions is good... But always always always assume that everyone on the road is a) an idiot and b) blind.
-added:
Watched Britain's Worst Driver the other day. I used to laugh at this when all I did was drive a cage... Now it makes me want to scream. It really brings home how even licenced people are a lethal liability... These are the people that hit things whether they can see them or not....
Cajun
5th January 2005, 08:09
:sick: :sick: :puke: :puke: were you in Rotovagas the other day Neal ?
F/F
was there monday the 27th, all family went for a ride, so a green zx10r, (which i was riding at the time), blue vtr1000f, black bandit, blue/silver bmw k1200rs, gold vn1500 dc:<
Whay ya see me?
Coyote
5th January 2005, 08:11
Watched Britain's Worst Driver the other day. I used to laugh at this when all I did was drive a cage... Now it makes me want to scream. It really brings home how even licenced people are a lethal liability... These are the people that hit things whether they can see them or not....
Hell, even I have a cage licence. All I had to do was pass a written test, haven't been behind the wheel of a cage yet
FROSTY
5th January 2005, 08:17
I think Light ,color and movement are the key.
I'm more likely to notice a bike coming up behind me if the headlight is flickering/dazzling me in my rear vision mirror.
I like the idea of headlight modulators.
Actually guys why not a KB survey
-whilst out driving in a cage (oh comeon a lot of us get stuck in cages)
note at what point ya notice a biker -and what made ya notice them
My voe is a bright headlight --ohh or a sexy woman on the back --arrgg did I say that.
Coyote
5th January 2005, 08:24
I think Light ,color and movement are the key.
I'm more likely to notice a bike coming up behind me if the headlight is flickering/dazzling me in my rear vision mirror.
I like the idea of headlight modulators.
Actually guys why not a KB survey
-whilst out driving in a cage (oh comeon a lot of us get stuck in cages)
note at what point ya notice a biker -and what made ya notice them
My voe is a bright headlight --ohh or a sexy woman on the back --arrgg did I say that.
Do it the Homie way. They are masters at trying to grab peoples attentions. Get Chrome spinner rims, pulsing neons, big bore exhaust, low profile tyres, flashing L.E.Ds, Nitrous Purges, tinted windscreen, carbon fairing with gold paint trim.........etc. etc.
FROSTY
5th January 2005, 08:26
Do it the Homie way. They are masters at trying to grab peoples attentions. Get Chrome spinner rims, pulsing neons, big bore exhaust, low profile tyres, flashing L.E.Ds, Nitrous Purges, tinted windscreen, carbon fairing with gold paint trim.........etc. etc.
Ya mean you havent already???
Coyote
5th January 2005, 08:31
Ya mean you havent already???
Nah, yo. A ain't got da cash tuh buy dis bling bling.
Firefight
5th January 2005, 08:55
was there monday the 27th, all family went for a ride, so a green zx10r, (which i was riding at the time), blue vtr1000f, black bandit, blue/silver bmw k1200rs, gold vn1500 dc:<
Whay ya see me?
Yeah I think I saw your bike leading a group of 3 or 4 bikes heading towards Rotovagas just past the airport, I would have waved but was being :puke: after seeing that shitty yellow coloured bike of yours, was the person on it wearing a yellow vest ? can,t be sure of the time.
F/F
Monsterbishi
5th January 2005, 08:55
Plus your bike would blind the taste sensitive anyway (Grumble - still annoyed he bought my bike).
<g> I heard there were a few folks eyeing it up :-)
There's a clean '94 FZR600 still in there, doesn't have the exup or suspension extras, but otherwise idetical appearance wise, a quick paint/vinyl job and no-one would be the wiser...
Motu
5th January 2005, 09:10
Agreed. But they can "see me more".
No,no,NO! don't even think of it,it's a bonus,but don't think for one second that it's going to save your life....cause it won't.
Gixxer 4 ever
5th January 2005, 09:16
Come on Steve now. Play fair for the nice :Police:It will be a lot easier when you get a red bike John. :sly: No sir it was him :bash:
Cajun
5th January 2005, 09:22
Yeah I think I saw your bike leading a group of 3 or 4 bikes heading towards Rotovagas just past the airport, I would have waved but was being :puke: after seeing that shitty yellow coloured bike of yours, was the person on it wearing a yellow vest ? can,t be sure of the time.
F/F
hmmmm by airport, we were heading out of rotovegas when went past air port, came in via mamakus home via te puke, so heading out, not to sure what colour gear brother in law had, but its only boring grey/black sorta stuff, and i was on the zx10r and was leading, so could have been dc:< i got on on the zx10r just by the ludge coming in to rotovegas.
XP@
5th January 2005, 09:26
allways have one in my bag.
generally wear it at night, the evening commute can be a warzone in the winter so try to minimise the "i didn't see you" excuse. It would sound pretty silly at the inquest, if I was wearing a fluro vest.
Also If I am doing a long run at night eg 1000 miler then it works too, makes one recognisable.
El Dopa
5th January 2005, 10:24
No,no,NO! don't even think of it,it's a bonus,but don't think for one second that it's going to save your life....cause it won't.
Exactly. I ride like everyone else on the road is barely in control of their vehicles when driving at slow speed in a straight line. Some are actively psycho, so assuming they all are means you've got a better chance of living longer.
The vest simply serves to increase the chances that the few of them who might be able to avoid me in case of something unexpected happening (like, ohhhhh, I dunno, someone else being on the road) actually being able to do so.
All it costs me is looking like a dick, which is nothing new, really.
Two stories from personal experience which illustrate both sides of the coin:
1) I was recently driving along an urban road at night, low visibility, lots of streetlight and headlight glare. I was driving very sedately and carefully at 50-55K. At the last minute, I see a guy dressed all in black on a black scoot stationary in the lane in front of me waiting to turn right. His lights were so pathetically dim that I'd almost missed him amongst the background clutter. Thinking about how close I'd come to rear-ending him and smearing him across the tarmac made me feel sick thinking about it afterwards. If he'd been wearing something higher vis, it wouldn't have been an issue.
2) Heading south in the car across the harbour bridge, the lane on the left is coned off over 200-300 metres and merges with my lane because of roadworks. I'm in the lane that keeps going. A car to my left is in the lane that is rapidly disappearing. They are travelling slower than me. As I overtake them, and am almost alongside them, they decide that this is the time to pull out into my lane. No indication. They hadn't left it to the absolute last minute, otherwise I would have stayed behind them to give them room. They are so close when they pull this little stunt that in order to avoid them, I have to immediately swerve into the lane on my right, no time to check mirrors or hit the brakes.
If something had been overtaking me on my right, that would have been all she wrote. Turns out (my wife in the pasenger seat had a full and frank exchange of views with the driver at the next red light), that they had seen me, they just didn't give a shit and assumed I'd move. Bearing in mind I was in a car, not a bike and only avoided an acident through pure dumb luck (nothing on my right when I took evasive action), and that they had seen me, being on a bike with a flouro vest on would have made stuff all difference. Again, when I think about what might have happened, it makes me feel a bit sick.
Coyote
5th January 2005, 10:29
If something had been overtaking me on my right, that would have been all she wrote. Turns out (my wife in the pasenger seat had a full and frank exchange of views with the driver at the next red light), that they had seen me, they just didn't give a shit and assumed I'd move. Bearing in mind I was in a car, not a bike and only avoided an acident through pure dumb luck (nothing on my right when I took evasive action), and that they had seen me, being on a bike with a flouro vest on would have made stuff all difference. Again, when I think about what might have happened, it makes me feel a bit sick.
NNNNNRRRRR! That pisses me off so damn much. Should've kicked their window or something. GAAHHRR!! :mad::mad::angry2::angry2: :brick:
Coyote
5th January 2005, 10:31
Were they Homies or just really stupid people?
El Dopa
5th January 2005, 10:34
Were they Homies or just really stupid people?
Old lady.
.........
Coyote
5th January 2005, 10:36
Old lady.
.........
:eek5: :angry2:
vifferman
5th January 2005, 10:46
I don't wear a fluoro vest, and have no intention of doing so, due to the way they look. I don't care.
Like others have said, I ride as if people can't see me and are brain-dead morons, after a couple of brain-dead morons didn't see me. A vest would've made no difference.
Incidentally, at the time I bought my red jacket (which has reflective strips, as do my boots), I was riding some days with the red jacket on (on my all-black bike) and some days with all black gear on. People paid more attention to me commuting when I was all in black, and moved out of the way more, probably because of the threatening appearance. :stoogie: Mind you, in dimmer conditions (like when the brain-dead morons were due for a nap?!?) the black would've been a liability.
mini_hooks_
5th January 2005, 11:10
i wear ablack parker i dont own leathers...i also wear a green helmet...but dads riding gear is quite bright (i think...) :whocares:
clint640
5th January 2005, 12:33
I found out when my dad was trying to get a vest for me, your only allowed to wear orange vests now as green and yellow fluoro vests are researved for the emergency services
Also, orange is now the new gay colour, huzzah!
Hey! you watch yer mouth boy! :bleh:
Since the bike is big & loud & ORANGE anyway I feel I'm well ahead in the visibility stakes already, but would probably get one if I was commuting in traffic all the time.
I tried to get a white helmet when I upgraded recently but the one I liked didn't come in white.
Cheers
Clint
Slingshot
5th January 2005, 13:10
I have fluro undies which I wear on the outside! :yeah:
Coyote
5th January 2005, 14:49
Hey! you watch yer mouth boy! :bleh:
Since the bike is big & loud & ORANGE anyway I feel I'm well ahead in the visibility stakes already, but would probably get one if I was commuting in traffic all the time.
I tried to get a white helmet when I upgraded recently but the one I liked didn't come in white.
Cheers
Clint
I was being sarcastic.
Who the hell decided orange is the new gay colour anyway. Its probebly that damned Fab 5 again.
If everyone accepts orange as a gay colour, KTM are screwed
Yokai
5th January 2005, 16:30
No,no,NO! don't even think of it,it's a bonus,but don't think for one second that it's going to save your life....cause it won't.
Somehow our wires are getting crossed. I don't think that wearing a fluoro will save my life. If they're gonna hit you they're gonna hit you. Like I said - my 2nd cousin got wiped while wearing reflectives.
But I'd rather wear a fluoro in the dark and rain than not... That extra vis is not for me to rely on (I'm one of those "assume they are out to kill me" riders) but sometimes, just sometimes, you don't notice someone driving at 140 k around the bends between Hunua and Hotel Du Vin, in the dark, and the swerve they make is preeeettttyyyy scary but better feeling than if they'd hit me, cos I was going in the same direction as them, and no jacket would probably have meant death.
Jackrat
5th January 2005, 16:43
I think Light ,color and movement are the key.
I'm more likely to notice a bike coming up behind me if the headlight is flickering/dazzling me in my rear vision mirror.
I like the idea of headlight modulators.
Actually guys why not a KB survey
-whilst out driving in a cage (oh comeon a lot of us get stuck in cages)
note at what point ya notice a biker -and what made ya notice them
My voe is a bright headlight --ohh or a sexy woman on the back --arrgg did I say that.
Arctic blue head lights rock.
I see a guy going the other way every day on the way to work,he wears a faded old HIvis vest that you don't see because he's always flat out on the tank anyway,but his Blue head light really stands out.
I know for myself if I'm going to notice anything it will be some thing that's unusual/different.At the moment it's these blue lights.
The other thing I like about them is that they don't tend to blind you if their on full beam.
Coyote
5th January 2005, 17:02
Arctic blue head lights rock.
I see a guy going the other way every day on the way to work,he wears a faded old HIvis vest that you don't see because he's always flat out on the tank anyway,but his Blue head light really stands out.
I know for myself if I'm going to notice anything it will be some thing that's unusual/different.At the moment it's these blue lights.
The other thing I like about them is that they don't tend to blind you if their on full beam.
How do you get hold of Artic Blue lights! I've been searching for ages
El Dopa
5th January 2005, 19:38
Yep and do you remember they were grasshoppers? Hardley surprising
Grasshoppers?
James Deuce
6th January 2005, 07:26
<g> I heard there were a few folks eyeing it up :-)
There's a clean '94 FZR600 still in there, doesn't have the exup or suspension extras, but otherwise idetical appearance wise, a quick paint/vinyl job and no-one would be the wiser...
Just waiting for a couple of Christchurch alumni to have a look at it for me. Kays are a bit high. Not after a custom project, I just want a bike to ride that requires the minimum of fuss to ride. I seriously don't care that it's not a 750, and doesn't have the "flash" bits. It's still a better bike than I'll ever be a rider.
Hang on... I'm not talking to you. Damn. Too late.
vifferman
6th January 2005, 07:31
How do you get hold of Artic Blue lights! I've been searching for agesDon't bother - unless you're after bling.
They give you worse lighting, despite the bluish light giving you the illusion of brightness. Plus the human eye isn't too good with the blue colours, so it's not good for night vision.
Coyote
6th January 2005, 08:02
Don't bother - unless you're after bling.
They give you worse lighting, despite the bluish light giving you the illusion of brightness. Plus the human eye isn't too good with the blue colours, so it's not good for night vision.
No more metal shit, it all about hip-hop, its all gravy...its all bling-bling, pinky ring yo, you know what I'm saying? :lol:
El Dopa
6th January 2005, 10:29
and BTW I'm not racist.. I hate everybody equally
Ah, the 'Dirty Harry' life philosophy.
Coyote
6th January 2005, 11:24
and BTW I'm not racist.. I hate everybody equally
Stay positive :niceone:
Blakamin
6th January 2005, 11:36
No more metal shit, it all about hip-hop, its all gravy...its all bling-bling, pinky ring yo, you know what I'm saying? :lol:
stop watching the credits from "rockstar"!!!!!
bloody Marky Mark!!!!
Coyote
6th January 2005, 11:39
stop watching the credits from "rockstar"!!!!!
bloody Marky Mark!!!!
BWAHAHA, Trogdor strikes again!
jonnyrr1
6th January 2005, 18:48
no vest for me......... lights on, and keep my eyes open and fingers crossed thats all i can do,
sure i could wear a vest but who really wants to look like a mail man...
Coyote
6th January 2005, 18:50
I ditched the vest. Not only did it cramp my style :p, it flapped in the wind and got really annoying
Holy Roller
6th January 2005, 20:50
I ditched the vest. Not only did it cramp my style :p, it flapped in the wind and got really annoying
Me thinks that maybe it needs to be done up first :killingme
inlinefour
7th January 2005, 11:31
How many of you guys wear Fluoro Vests while riding?
Plus I would feel some what of a dork wearing a vest :stupid:
Coyote
7th January 2005, 11:46
Me thinks that maybe it needs to be done up first :killingme
Once, I did accidentaly leave it undone, and it acted as a parachute.
scumdog
11th January 2005, 08:39
I have fluro undies which I wear on the outside! :yeah:
Ah, a man with the same dashing dress sense as myself!!
Don't forget, for more cool (and safety of course!) you can't beat a fluoro womans G-string pulled over your helmet!! (and I bet you didn't realise there WERE flouro women out there! :shit: )
**R1**
11th January 2005, 09:43
Hell no vest for me, :puke: ya just need a realy loud bike bright leathers, and a stylie bike draws heaps of attention(not always good attention) vests look all bad, and most cagers that hit you saw you anyway, they just didnt give a F$@k :angry2:
JohnBoy
11th January 2005, 10:51
i have to wear one for work so there is no way i would want to wear them any longer than that!
too much fabric to flap around and get caught somewhere you least expect it.
Sensei
11th January 2005, 16:35
Well went to Wellington last friday & back Saturday saw 28 bike's & only 2 of them had Fluoro Vest on . The bike's with their head light's on where just as easy to see . SENSEI :shifty:
Roadrash
11th January 2005, 16:38
i ride with my headlights on and my bike is bright blue, if they can't see that a vest isn't gonna save my arse.
:ar15:
Skyryder
11th January 2005, 20:23
Got an orange one somewhere. One of those ones that roadie crews use. Done my stint as a navvy. Sometimes pack a fluro arm band in the kit on long trips. Used it a couple of times.
Skyryder
Krusti
14th February 2005, 15:35
Doubt it.. would look too much like a WIMA rider. Not everyone needs to know I ride like a girl! :confused:
Anyway I ride a flouro bike! :cool:
Krusti
14th February 2005, 15:38
Anyway we all know you hit where you are looking, right?
bugjuice
14th February 2005, 15:39
my bike is bright orange (like Krusti's here ;) ) and I wear a blue jacket with reflective strips, and the bikes aren't quiet. If they can't see me, they shouldn't be on the road (which accounts for a lot of drivers!)
Jantar
14th February 2005, 20:59
Here's something to try for yourself. Next time you see a bike coming towards you with its headlight on, try and see what the rider is wearing BEFORE you actually get to him (or her). Its almost impossible to even see a flouro vest from the front.
From the rear it is possible to pick up a flouro vest before you actually pull out and pass that other bike, but then coming from the rear there is so much more time to see a bike anyway.
I believe that most instances of cage drivers not seeing bikes is when approaching an intersection. In this instance a flouro vest may make a difference, but somehow I doubt it. The cage driver still wont see a bike because they aren't looking for a bike. They are only looking for something bigger than what they drive.
Ninja51
15th February 2005, 07:24
my bike is bright orange (like Krusti's here ;) ) and I wear a blue jacket with reflective strips, and the bikes aren't quiet. If they can't see me, they shouldn't be on the road (which accounts for a lot of drivers!)
Yep! Might as well come in here with my tuppenyworth... the "nine" is also flouro so Ive resisted that temptation to go out and by a vest. It was a toughy though...NOT! I ride with my headlight on because as we all know green Kawasakis go far too fast, and much faster than any other colour. (isnt that right BJ?) But then I ride like a wuss anyway. (Im the only one to have ridden the Nurburgring and been overtaken by a van!)
An alternative to the vest is the god awful "Sam Brown" flourescent over the shoulder strappy round the waist thingy. Do they have them over here?
Mmm.. lovely! Whatever next?
pyrocam
15th February 2005, 09:20
I wouldnt wear one for commuting. maybe If it was dark or poor weather. but Ive got a purple bike + black jacket with relective piping (apparently) and a bright white/green/orange/yellow helmet (its an old racing one)
bugjuice
15th February 2005, 09:25
Yep! Might as well come in here with my tuppenyworth... the "nine" is also flouro so Ive resisted that temptation to go out and by a vest. It was a toughy though...NOT! I ride with my headlight on because as we all know green Kawasakis go far too fast, and much faster than any other colour. (isnt that right BJ?) But then I ride like a wuss anyway. (Im the only one to have ridden the Nurburgring and been overtaken by a van!)
An alternative to the vest is the god awful "Sam Brown" flourescent over the shoulder strappy round the waist thingy. Do they have them over here?
Mmm.. lovely! Whatever next?
damn straight.. But I can't turn my headlight off, there's no switch for it on the new bikes. Can make them brighter, but can't turn them off all together
Shame about the Nurburgring. Were you walking at the time? I'd love to have a go at that track. I need a Mastercard, cos they always price everything up - one return ticket to Germany - $, one return fare for the 636 - $, a week of 'open day' entry fees to the Nurburgring - $, fuel and tyres for the week - $, leathers and sliders - $, paying for it for the rest of your life? priceless.
Big Dave
15th February 2005, 12:34
Flouro vest? - Not if it was the last garment on the planet.
bd
idb
15th February 2005, 12:40
Seems a sensible thing........but......
Anyway, I rely on my Chopper Guard to keep me visible.
Very retro & stylee.
Coyote
15th February 2005, 15:30
Argh, yet another one of my old threads resurected
Haven't been wearing the vest lately. The thing gets annoying flapping in the wind
bungbung
15th February 2005, 15:40
Argh, yet another one of my old threads resurected
Haven't been wearing the vest lately. The thing gets annoying flapping in the wind
I'll tell on you!
Coyote
15th February 2005, 15:58
I'll tell on you!
Your a big meanie
NC
28th February 2005, 13:53
I'm so fat that they can't miss me..
Wolf
28th February 2005, 14:23
Stats over seas have indicated that silver cagers are lease (sic) likely to be involved in accidents...
Surprises the hell outta me! I guess the silver cage drivers overseas are smart enough to turn their farking lights on in the fog - here (at least the dorks around Hamilton) they drive in their silver cages in the fog with their lights off and don't seem to realise they blend into the fog VERY WELL...
Why oh why are so many cages painted in the following colours:
"Fog White", "Fog Silver" and "Tarmac Black"?
And why do so many dorks drive them without lights under poor visibility conditions?
idb
28th February 2005, 14:49
Surprises the hell outta me! I guess the silver cage drivers overseas are smart enough to turn their farking lights on in the fog - here (at least the dorks around Hamilton) they drive in their silver cages in the fog with their lights off and don't seem to realise they blend into the fog VERY WELL...
Why oh why are so many cages painted in the following colours:
"Fog White", "Fog Silver" and "Tarmac Black"?
And why do so many dorks drive them without lights under poor visibility conditions?
Also Plonker Red, Idiot Green, Camper Van White etc etc
pritch
5th March 2005, 07:00
I recall reading of an experiment that was done in the States some years ago. A series of people drove around an arranged suburban course and were then tested as to what they had observed.
They all spotted anything resembling a threat (there was a cop and a Hells Angel type) the results were very variable about all the other potential hazards, old people, kids, a cyclist, etc etc.
Your fluoro jackets might not help you, you have to look scary.
TygerTung
6th March 2005, 11:33
I was going for a ride around the hills with my dad on pushies the other week, and I saw these two dudes, one on a BMW, and one on an XR, one fulla was wearing two of those fluro sash's, you know in an X shape... Looked real bandit eh!
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