Tyre chains on sportbikes?

[CookMySock]

ok I have a sportbike.. can I put tyre chains on it to climb grassy hills ?

http://www.mv-motorrad.de/cosmoshop/lshop,showdetail,13240,e,1105803788-30287,,10107,,,.htm

Why do I want to do this ? Paragliding. I need to cross from coast to coast when the wind shifts to get to sites that are flyable - much more interesting on a sports bike, but reality sets in when I arrive at a site to find a nasty-steep 1,000ft hill to walk up.. eep! Solution - put chains on and drive up ? I don't want a full-out motox experience, I just want to have some forward motive power going up, and some anti-skid coming down!! :eek:


many thanks,
DB

[nodrog]

do they go on the front tyre as well? if so i cant see them clearing the front guard on most sportsbikes (or a rear hugger for that matter).

[clint640]

How much clearance have you got between your tyre & swingarm? It's often pretty tight. Any hill steep & slippery enough to need those to climb is going to be pretty interesting to descend on a sportbike too.

Clint

[CookMySock]

yeah dang hadnt thought of that. suck.

I think it will have to go on the front yeah..

DB

[slimjim]

:soon: :shutup: bro i'll come too watch :Punk:

[scumdog]

Oh my, imagine the carnage when one of those slips or the holding band comes loose??:shit:

[Disco Dan]

Does not look like they are too high to interfere with any wheel guards? Look at the pictures and they are actually on a sports/tourer.

I say go for it, they look like they can make some pretty fun rides off road on the grass/snow etc !

[BiK3RChiK]

I know you like living on the edge, but, sheesh man! Isn't this taking it a bit too far?:jerry::jerry:

[scumdog]

I know you like living on the edge, but, sheesh man! Isn't this taking it a bit too far?:jerry::jerry:

Nah, too far is when he throws away the tyres, cuts the rims off the spokes and just rides on the spokes - total traction (for him AND the bike)

[CookMySock]

Oh my, imagine the carnage when one of those slips or the holding band comes loose??:shit:yeeeaaahhhhup !! It will at least smash the front guard. Even a tiny pebble makes a hellava crack when it gets nabbed between the tyre and front guard. Rear has a lot more clearance. I imagine 10-20km/hr max with the chains on. Maybe after all the fartin around it will quicker to walk up the fucking hill.. :(

Measured 12mm clearance on the front. The guard could be modded to give 4-5mm more clearance.. just a matter of slotting the screw holes slightly.

Not a big job to just remove the front guard when required tho.. only a few screws in it.


DB

[fireball]

wouldnt it make more sense to buy a dual purpose bike?

[CookMySock]

wouldnt it make more sense to buy a dual purpose bike?Yes indeed, however, I don't want to ride a DP bike all around the north island, coz its not my thing. Thats all.


DB

[cooneyr]

Yes indeed, however, I don't want to ride a DP bike all around the north island, coz its boring. Thats all. Sportbike = teh fun, DP bike teh transport.


DB

Wrong forum to be posting that sort of comment in dude :bleh: Personally I recon sprots bikes would be boring unless you don't value you license but then again I know squat of the north island.

If you do get some chains make sure you get a video - I could do with a laugh :D

Cheers R

P.S. It would be a piece of cake to make some yourself for a trial run.

[CookMySock]

Wrong forum to be posting that sort of comment in dude :bleh: Personally I recon sprots bikes would be boring [...]yeah sorry man. Just meant to state my personal preferences there. Withdrawn! My apologies! Edited out.


If you do get some chains make sure you get a video - I could do with a laugh It would be a piece of cake to make some yourself for a trial run.Yep, I'll have a fink about it.


DB

[CBobR]

Put some street biased dualsport tyres on? maybe like Avon Distanzias?

[CookMySock]

Put some street biased dualsport tyres on? maybe like Avon Distanzias?:blink: spose..


DB

[cooneyr]

yeah sorry man. Just meant to state my personal preferences there. Withdrawn! My apologies! Edited out.

Yep, I'll have a fink about it.


DB

Just taking the piss.

I'm serious about the making them thing - the "chains" are just bits of flat steel (try 2.5 or 3mm for a trial set) folded into a C (or U depending on the way you look at them :D) with a series of cuts through the flanges so that the C and be bend around the tyre. All you need then is some webbing attached to either end that you can put through the wheel and tighten up. The webbing is by far the hardest bit!

Cheers R

[CookMySock]

I'm serious about the making them thing - the "chains" are just bits of flat steel (try 2.5 or 3mm for a trial set) folded into a C (or U depending on the way you look at them :D) with a series of cuts through the flanges so that the C and be bend around the tyre. All you need then is some webbing attached to either end that you can put through the wheel and tighten up. The webbing is by far the hardest bit!yep, agreed. The ones in that link do have a bit of a compound curve to them - might have to make a wooden mold and hammer them into it - or make up something to clamp them in the vise. Any other brainwaves anyone ?

<img src="http://www.mv-motorrad.de/cosmoshop/pix/a/z/10107/b0.jpg">

Webbing ? Just cut up some tie-downs. Not cheap, yeah.. oh well..

DB

[CookMySock]

hrm, if they are good and grabby, maybe I won't need them on the front.. its not like I need the bike to handle well with them on.. just so I dont have to bloody walk.

DB

[BASS-TREBLE]

A thing to consider is that the bike shown is a 1200GS putting out around the 100hp mark. Wouldn't want to open the throttle with them in a powerful sportsbike....

Just my 2c

[CookMySock]

Wouldn't want to open the throttle with them in a powerful sportsbike....yup. "engage brain first" 'tis the way of the sportbiker, and the paraglider pilot. Won't be a problem.


DB

[Transalper]

Just wondering if I read this right?
Do you plan to ride up a hill then paraglide down?
If that is the case then is someone else going to ride the bike back down to get you or will you still have to walk up the hill anyway to collect the bike?

[CookMySock]

Just wondering if I read this right?
Do you plan to ride up a hill then paraglide down?
If that is the case then is someone else going to ride the bike back down to get you or will you still have to walk up the hill anyway to collect the bike?Basically, it's not very interesting just gliding down slopes, so we look for conditions where there is an upward current in the air that provides more life than the glider has sink. In short, we can take off from any grassy slope and climb, and fly around at will.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oM2jS1oPDnM

If the lift is particularly poor, yes it is possible even likely to land lower than we take off from.. but would you land 2000feet below if you had to walk back up again ? :nono: You learn this lesson very quickly lol.

DB

[Transalper]

lol, nice.

[xwhatsit]

Keep it in the family, man!

Hyosung RX450SM.

[CookMySock]

Keep it in the family, man! Hyosung RX450SM.yeah nice aren't they. not keen on a dirtbike atm.


DB

[mbazza]

You buy 'em, I'll come and watch. Travelling in the cage of course. :banana:

[CookMySock]

You buy 'em, I'll come and watch. Travelling in the cage of course. :banana:hop on bro, come for a ride ? :innocent:

I'll fold up a bit of stainless and strap it on somehow. Not sure how to get the compound curve though..


DB

[Taz]

Doubt you'll need them...... This guy didn't

[Subike]

hop on bro, come for a ride ? :innocent:

I'll fold up a bit of stainless and strap it on somehow. Not sure how to get the compound curve though..


DB
Grab an old Farmfence steel batton,
Use a 6" Grinder with a 120mm cut of blade to get the five steel bits,
Drill out holes for clamps with Blackand Decker Varyiabile speed drill,
Mounted in its Black and Decker drill press!
Then use a Hard rubber mallet and a farm fence post, 150mm or a strainer post
Yeah, that will do the trick.
Bit of NO8 Gauge wire, bent with the fencing plyers to fit the holes in plates.
Some bailing twine for the straps
There ya go , A cheap alternative...any Kiwi Bloke could do it!

ugggelstumple smotherm same bothing ugggelstrumple!

[OV Lander]

Reckon you'd want more than 5 in a set - the gaps between the units is too great allowing there to be periods of rubber/ground contact with no teeth biting into the ground.

Could you imagine a big sports bike grip, NO GRIP, grip, NO GRIP, grip, NO GRIP, grip, NO GRIP, grip, NO GRIP, grip, NO GRIP, grip, NO GRIP, grip, NO GRIP...?... ....did you say you were going to video it? Go on...plz!

Reckon you'd be better off with a decent length of hemp rope and wrap it round the wheel/tyre like they used to do when scramble racing and hill climbing first started... ....a damn site cheap than 110 Euro, and I'd say a heap more effective too.

[idleidolidyll]

"ok I have a sportbike.. can I put tyre chains on it to climb grassy hills ?"

if i have a harley and put slicks on it, will it become a sports bike?

[AllanB]

Caution The snow claw should only be driven at slow speeds. Consider that the front wheel can suddenly veer out on ice or snow.

ah .............. and well.................ah.............OK


Question - where do you put your glider on the bike, or is someone else carting it?

Personally if you purchase a sport bike (or any narrow purpose bike) there's a point where you have to accept its limitations :cool:

Me - I'd not have a bar of it & I'd be looking for a cheap dirter to fat up and down the hills when gliding. I see the potential for damage to rim, guards (if on) radiator if the front breaks and your arse when the rear on shoots through the subframe with a bit of overzealous throttle (cause lets face it a 10,000 rpm rooster tail of dirt and grass would be way cool :banana:

What you need is one of those hillclimb tyres.

[awayatc]

Bit of NO8 Gauge wire, bent with the fencing plyers to fit the holes in plates.

There ya go , A cheap alternative...any Kiwi Bloke could do it!




No 8 wire?....better pack a good puncture repair kit or 2....:laugh:

better of with something like this......:scooter:

[CookMySock]

Reckon you'd want more than 5 in a set [....]
length of hemp rope and wrap it round the wheel/tyre hrm thats interesting. Simple too.


if i have a harley and put slicks on it, will it become a sports bike?re-read. I don't want to change its' role. I just want a little slow-speed traction on gentle grassy slopes, especially with thousand-footers. The small hills it will be quicker to just walk them than put the grips on.



where do you put your glider on the bike, or is someone else carting it?The glider is just a largish conventional backpack, carried in any convenient fashion on your back or your bikes packrack.


Personally if you purchase a sport bike (or any narrow purpose bike) there's a point where you have to accept its limitations :cool:Each to their own. I do not accept limitations of any type.


Me - I'd not have a bar of it & I'd be looking for a cheap dirter to fat up and down the hills when gliding. Each to their own, but crossing the north island coast to coast looking for wind-ward sites is going to suck really bad on a "cheap dirter".


I see the potential for damage to rim, guards (if on) radiator if the front breaks and your arse when the rear on shoots through the subframe with a bit of overzealous throttleYep. Caution is required. But we are sportbike riders and paraglider pilots - it is perfectly clear to us when we should be cautious and when to give it the gas.


:rockon:
DB

[NordieBoy]

if i have a harley and put slicks on it, will it become a sports bike?

Yes, of course it does...

[marks]

So...

If you ride your bike to the top of a hill and paraglide back down don't you have to walk all the way back up to get your bike - if so isn't that the same difference as walking up in the first place?

Am I missing something here?

[CookMySock]

Am I missing something here?Yes. Read the thread. :niceone:

Paragliders can fly around and land back where they took off from.


DB

[cooneyr]

Forgot about the rope thing, it would be a really good idea and wouldnt take that long to put on. From what I understand it is the origin of tyre chains as we know it. There are a few pics around of fullers back in the early part of the 20th century driving around with rope wound around the tyre and rim to get through some "road".

Hope you went to boy scouts and know how to tie a knot :D

Cheers R

[Oscar]

ok I have a sportbike.. can I put tyre chains on it to climb grassy hills ?

http://www.mv-motorrad.de/cosmoshop/lshop,showdetail,13240,e,1105803788-30287,,10107,,,.htm

Why do I want to do this ? Paragliding. I need to cross from coast to coast when the wind shifts to get to sites that are flyable - much more interesting on a sports bike, but reality sets in when I arrive at a site to find a nasty-steep 1,000ft hill to walk up.. eep! Solution - put chains on and drive up ? I don't want a full-out motox experience, I just want to have some forward motive power going up, and some anti-skid coming down!! :eek:


many thanks,
DB

Trade your bike on a V Strom 650.

[marks]

Yes. Read the thread. :niceone: DB
D'oh......

[CookMySock]

Trade your bike on a V Strom 650.not a solution for me. Roads + cornering + hanging off = me.

DB

[Oscar]

not a solution for me. Roads + cornering + hanging off = me.

DB

The V Strom is superior in all those departments to your current bike.

[slopster]

what about a motard be a bit better suited wouldn't it and just as quick on the road

[CookMySock]

The V Strom is superior in all those departments to your current bike.I know this already - I have done 12,000km on it.. why do you think I do not know this ? I already know know what my next bike will be. I want a sportsbike. I don't want a vstrom.


what about a motard be a bit better suited wouldn't it and just as quick on the roadI'm sure it will be better. But I don't want a motard.

Maybe later I will change my preferences You know how it is.. white girl today, brown girl tomorrow.. ;)

DB

[bully]

like you said, getting up is one thing, coming down will be interesting. good luck db.

[Oscar]

I know this already - I have done 12,000km on it.. why do you think I do not know this ? I already know know what my next bike will be. I want a sportsbike. I don't want a vstrom.


DB

Jeez, don't get snitty, Guy.
Yer the one asking about chains on a Sportsbike...

[NordieBoy]

You need a DL650 you do :D

[Pedrostt500]

I would suggest you try an adventure bike tyre DB, I have seen bike chains though it was in the dim dark past of the 1970s, and they were on farm bikes.
I wonder how an engineering plastic like teflon would do for your cleats, or some ting simmilar with a high anti abrasive value, this would be kinder on your tyre, and less likely to destroy your bike if it comes apart.