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Mountlocal1
23rd June 2008, 18:34
Yeah I know... They dont have 2 wheels and go broom broom...

I just bought a 34" Philips Matchline TV off Trademe. When I tested it before collecting the picture was a little fuzzy but seller said it worked fine on sky and was just the aerial... Well it aint. Its the TV.

Any tv repair men amongst us?????

Usarka
23rd June 2008, 18:35
I know something about kneecaps.....to be sure....

Trouser
23rd June 2008, 18:36
What I do know and which doesn't help at this late stage is that philips crt tv's have particularly bad reliability.

Take it back. Clearly not as advertised.

breakaway
23rd June 2008, 18:37
I know enough to know that in this day and age you shouldn't be buying one.

Mountlocal1
23rd June 2008, 18:39
What I do know and which doesn't help at this late stage is that philips crt tv's have particularly bad reliability.

Take it back. Clearly not as advertised.

Ive owned heaps in the past with no problem.... And I cant kneecap the seller.. It was a chick... Dammit!

Mountlocal1
23rd June 2008, 18:39
I know enough to know that in this day and age you shouldn't be buying one.

I should when Im saving for a new bike.....

Usarka
23rd June 2008, 18:43
And I cant kneecap the seller.. It was a chick... Dammit!

A lying deceiptful chick.

Oh yes, you're right - a chick.

:whistle:

imdying
23rd June 2008, 18:49
Take it back to him and tell him you want your money back... even in private sales, it's still illegal to misrepresent the goods, and you're able to take them to the disputes tribunal over it.

Matt_TG
23rd June 2008, 19:27
I wouldn't think much of your chances of getting any joy with consumer legislation ... misrepresentation is part of the the Consumer Guarantees Act but that doesn't apply to private sales. But, as it's a chick you could threaten it. Is she blonde? (*ducks for cover).

You'll probably find that the tube isn't even Philips .... most of them were Samsungs back in the day. Samsung were the world's largest CRT manufacturer.

Disclaimer - the following is not advice for those who aren't qualified... Darwin Award candidates please do not read!

I sold and serviced CRT TV's 1986 - 98 - not long after they stopped pumping them out of Waihi. Ahhh the good old days of Philips and Pye. Heavy bloody things. We used to rent them out, and spent many a day getting 26" from shelves in public bars, they were caked with smoke and dust and used to be in Teletext 24/7, you didn't need the screen to be on to read the text, it was permanently etched on the screen. I also remember the Matchlines ... so much plastic but god they were the bees knees!

If you take the back off you will find levers around the neck (back pointy bit) of the tube. They handle the focus and convergance (makes the red, green and blue colours line up). These may be adjusted to sharpen the image and get rid of any rogue colours. Now, you are likely to kill yourself if you touch the copper coloured wires circling the neck whilst the tele is on so best not to go there aye.

There are also plastic screw adjusters on the circuit board that will sharpen things up. There is usually something written near the screws to say what they do. Turning these can help.

I reckon the best thing is to get Tisco to take a look at it and give it a tune up. Probably cost less than $100 and away you go.

Usarka
23rd June 2008, 19:31
Consumer Gaurantees Act may not apply, but the sale was a contract based on the information provided.

Small claims court might work but you'd need to convince the judge that the dialogue took place.

Mountlocal1
23rd June 2008, 19:33
Your a bloody legend... Finally a straight answer. Il whip the back off and have a quick look but will give Tisco a call in the morning.

Thanks heaps for your help... Il buy you a beer when I meet ya.

Mountlocal1
23rd June 2008, 19:40
Hang on... Iv already had a beer with ya! Out at Okirori (spelling?) with the crazy guy on the gn250....

varminter
23rd June 2008, 19:45
A pound to a pinch of shit you'll make it worse (or kill it) if you get inside it, the purity tabs are hard to move and unlikely to have shifted. Are you using it off air, using a known good aerial? (bunny ears are shite) can you play a DVD into the A/V in, if so is that ok. If it's ok from an A/V source then it could be the tuner or the aerial socket, assuming the aerial's all good. Is the sound good, signal problem (including a stuffed or low gain tuner) gives lots of noise on the picture ie snowy looking.

varminter
23rd June 2008, 19:48
Oh yes. Got a bike, GN 250, not rode it yet, waiting for it to stop raining, scared of falling off, or getting wet and shrinking.

rainman
23rd June 2008, 20:13
Knew a bloke once who had the misfortune to ever so momentarily glance his hand past the wrong bit of the innards of a telly. Luckily but predictably kicked him flat on his arse and got him a trip to the local hostipal in the ambo. He survived, but it turned the hair in the front of his head snow white and caused him a few other issues that affected him (adversely) for the rest of his days.

Sure you wanna go mess around in there? He's not joking y'know, this electricity stuff can kill you.

Mountlocal1
23rd June 2008, 20:38
A pound to a pinch of shit you'll make it worse (or kill it) if you get inside it, the purity tabs are hard to move and unlikely to have shifted. Are you using it off air, using a known good aerial? (bunny ears are shite) can you play a DVD into the A/V in, if so is that ok. If it's ok from an A/V source then it could be the tuner or the aerial socket, assuming the aerial's all good. Is the sound good, signal problem (including a stuffed or low gain tuner) gives lots of noise on the picture ie snowy looking.

Sound is perfect... have had other telly on this aerial and works perfect....

ynot slow
23rd June 2008, 20:52
Sounds a stupid reply,but can you fine tune the set,if the chanels are ok maybe a tweak with f/t screw will do the trick.

flyingcrocodile46
23rd June 2008, 21:18
Knew a bloke once who had the misfortune to ever so momentarily glance his hand past the wrong bit of the innards of a telly. Luckily but predictably kicked him flat on his arse and got him a trip to the local hostipal in the ambo. He survived, but it turned the hair in the front of his head snow white and caused him a few other issues that affected him (adversely) for the rest of his days.

Sure you wanna go mess around in there? He's not joking y'know, this electricity stuff can kill you.

Had a similar but less damaging (debatabley) experience as I withdrew my arm past a fold out circuit board on a Phillips K9, I got a little too close and got teleported through time and space (12 feet in a millisecond)... What The!.. I guess I was lucky cause I haven't experienced any pro... teleported through time and space (12 feet in a millisecond)... What The!.. I guess I was lucky cause I haven't experienced any pro... teleported through time and space (12 feet in a millisecond)... What The!.. I guess I was lucky cause I haven't experienced any pro... teleported through time and space (12 feet in a millisecond)... What The!.. I guess I was lucky cause I haven't experienced any pro... teleported through time and space (12 feet in a millisecond)... What The!

Matt_TG
23rd June 2008, 22:09
Hang on... Iv already had a beer with ya! Out at Okirori (spelling?) with the crazy guy on the gn250....

Yep we had a beer at the Oko, my son was with me and my mad brother in law was on his GN ... he's the lawyer with no bike licence who only has one speed on the GN, full throttle. He's nuts but at least we get free legal work :)

I was always shit scared I'd electrcute myself. I was installing a teletext kit on a Panasoonic tele once (it wasn't switched on of course) and a co worker thought it would be hilarious to sneak up on me and yell. I jumped back and cracked the board at the end of the tube with my arm, and the tube neck... the tube was rooted as the vacuum broke and air hissed into the tube. He had to pay for it and they weren't cheap then lol.

imdying
24th June 2008, 08:42
I wouldn't think much of your chances of getting any joy with consumer legislation ... misrepresentation is part of the the Consumer Guarantees Act but that doesn't apply to private sales.Never said anything about the CGA...


Consumer Gaurantees Act may not apply, but the sale was a contract based on the information provided.

Small claims court might work but you'd need to convince the judge that the dialogue took place.That is correct, you would have to convince the adjudicator of that, which shouldn't be too much trouble, all they do all day is civil disputes, they're not stupid.

Mikkel
24th June 2008, 08:53
I'd be reluctant to start mucking around with the innards of the TV for two reasons: first of all the health risks associated plus the fact that if you don't know exactly what you are doing you're likely to make it worse and second, if you dick around with the TV you can not honestly try and get your money back.

And yes, you should be able to get your money back. imdying is right - they are not allowed to misinform you during a private sale. That said, the trader could honestly have believed that it was the aerial so I'd advice you to contact her in a non-accusative manner and say that the TV isn't working satisfactorily.

Mountlocal1
24th June 2008, 16:23
Howdy...

I decided to cut my loses. Put it back on Trademe for 150 instead of the much larger sum I paid.. Put good working cond which it is (its really only with words on the screen you notice it blurry)-suit kids rumpus room etc and also as is where is. It sold within the day. You dont get a shitty 14" for that price so I hope the new owner will be happy. As for the lyn piece of ass I purchased it off... Karma will sort her out.

tri boy
24th June 2008, 17:21
...and I won the great Scrabble challenge. So a pretty good result for both of us.:first:
kanny thinks I'm too competitive though:spanking:

Laava
24th June 2008, 18:15
Knew a bloke once who had the misfortune to ever so momentarily glance his hand past the wrong bit of the innards of a telly. Luckily but predictably kicked him flat on his arse and got him a trip to the local hostipal in the ambo. He survived, but it turned the hair in the front of his head snow white and caused him a few other issues that affected him (adversely) for the rest of his days.

Sure you wanna go mess around in there? He's not joking y'know, this electricity stuff can kill you.
Pffft! That's what gumboots are for!

Street Gerbil
24th June 2008, 18:26
Had a similar but less damaging (debatabley) experience as I withdrew my arm past a fold out circuit board on a Phillips K9, I got a little too close and got teleported through time and space (12 feet in a millisecond)... What The!.. I guess I was lucky cause I haven't experienced any pro... teleported through time and space (12 feet in a millisecond)... What The!.. I guess I was lucky cause I haven't experienced any pro... teleported through time and space (12 feet in a millisecond)... What The!.. I guess I was lucky cause I haven't experienced any pro... teleported through time and space (12 feet in a millisecond)... What The!.. I guess I was lucky cause I haven't experienced any pro... teleported through time and space (12 feet in a millisecond)... What The!
Been there done that. Had a nasty tattoo of a circuit board on the back of my hand for a while.