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terbang

23rd June 2008, 20:33

Is this for real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ7JqoOVwJ4

Trouser

23rd June 2008, 21:16

Fully legit. So are the Maori warrants and registrations.

It's true bro.

McJim

23rd June 2008, 21:28

Colapop

23rd June 2008, 21:32

Yeah bro, just take it to da high court bro. Yeah.

H00dz

23rd June 2008, 21:38

That's great news. It means if a car has a Maori Warrant and the axle fails in front of you causing you to crash you can claim money back from the Maori Parliament for issuing a warrant to an unsafe vehicle.

Similarly if a Maori licence holder crashes into you for being incompetent you can claim compensation from the Maori Parliament. You cousins and grandchildren will be able to do this also.

The Maori Parliament will then realise that with authority comes culpability....and a price....

Culpability ..... Thats rich coming from a fuckin SCOT .....Who bye the way got FUCKED over by the English just as much as the MAORI ......Keep ya ignorant Braveheart comments to yourself .......

McJim

23rd June 2008, 21:59

Culpability ..... Thats rich coming from a fuckin SCOT .....Who bye the way got FUCKED over by the English just as much as the MAORI ......Keep ya ignorant Braveheart comments to yourself .......

Sorry to disappoint old bean but there's a Scotsman in charge of the UK now. And we aren't really that precious about it anyway since centuries of interbreeding means we're all pretty much part of the same people with the English, Irish, Welsh, Danish, French and Germans now. It's only the small minded europeans that still get uppity about it.

Have you been over to Europe? If you haven't you should go, you'd like it.

H00dz

23rd June 2008, 22:31

Sorry to disappoint old bean but there's a Scotsman in charge of the UK now. And we aren't really that precious about it anyway since centuries of interbreeding means we're all pretty much part of the same people with the English, Irish, Welsh, Danish, French and Germans now. It's only the small minded europeans that still get uppity about it.

Have you been over to Europe? If you haven't you should go, you'd like it.

I can assure you Mcjim that it takes a bit to disappoint me, but when you make snipe remarks about my culture you're certainly heading in the right direction......

oh Sorry for the delay I had to read the last line of your message three or four times to pick up the subtlety of your rebuke.....not surprising I suppose after all I am a maori

Its seems that you have spent some time in the UK yourself....ever thought of going back

Brett

23rd June 2008, 22:38

yod

23rd June 2008, 22:40

:corn:

....

Gubb

23rd June 2008, 22:41

With all these technological advances since 1800, you'd at least think you'd learn how to fucking type.

H00dz

23rd June 2008, 22:41

ARE you for real?

absolutely .....

Taz

23rd June 2008, 22:44

Jeez. What a load of bollocks.

Brett

23rd June 2008, 22:44

I can assure you Mcjim that it takes a bit to disappoint me, but when you make snipe remarks about my culture you're certainly heading in the right direction......

oh Sorry for the delay I had to read the last line of your message three or four times to pick up the subtlety of your rebuke.....not surprising I suppose after all I am a maori

Its seems that you have spent some time in the UK yourself....ever thought of going back

Mate, I couldn't really care less what colour or creed you are. I do respect that as a Maori you are part of one of NZ's earlier settlers and for that the Maori are due some respect and consideration, especially considering the way the euro's treated the earlier Maori, but come on...is it not time that it was water under the bridge? NZ is made up of KIWI's now. The race segregation stuff is dangerous.(not insinuating that you are segregating between Maori & other, just that McJim has some points in what he is saying).
NZ is made of Kiwis all run by one government representative of everyone & everyone has the same basic rights of a good health system, their own culture (which you are right in defending; it is what makes Maori who they are) education, security & safety etc. . This should be celebrated as a different culture...but there are certainly no requirements fo any one people to have special priveledges....

Brett

McJim

23rd June 2008, 22:47

Its seems that you have spent some time in the UK yourself....ever thought of going back
Sorry mate I was being serious. Europe is a nice place.

I wasn't taking the piss with my original post either so I must confess that I am disappointed that you are getting the wrong end of the stick.

I suspect that the Maori WOF and licence is more of a political statement rather than a concerted atempt to make road travel safer. If this is true then I am, once again deeply disappointed. The licences, warrants and compliance enforced by the government of New Zealand on vehicles is not there to victimise any group but rather to ensure the roadworthiness of the public fleet of vehicles and the drivers who control them. When I find these regulations to be unsatisfactory I speak out. I have no idea of the rigour of the Maori WOF and licences and I merely pointed out that if they were not raised with appropriate rigour to ensure safety on the public highway then the issuing authority should be prepared to face the consequences of wielding this power.

Why has this caused you offence?

Brett

23rd June 2008, 22:48

That's great news. It means if a car has a Maori Warrant and the axle fails in front of you causing you to crash you can claim money back from the Maori Parliament for issuing a warrant to an unsafe vehicle.

Similarly if a Maori licence holder crashes into you for being incompetent you can claim compensation from the Maori Parliament. You cousins and grandchildren will be able to do this also.

The Maori Parliament will then realise that with authority comes culpability....and a price....

I think that the main thing you are saying that is worth noting, is the comment on culpability. A government (or any authority for that matter) needs to be held to account for its actions. Something that this current government still has not yet learnt.

Gubb

23rd June 2008, 22:57

Be interesting to see just how much money the Maori Parliament contributes to roading, healthcare etc.

McJim

23rd June 2008, 23:03

I think that the main thing you are saying that is worth noting, is the comment on culpability. A government (or any authority for that matter) needs to be held to account for its actions. Something that this current government still has not yet learnt.
The election draws nigh........

Brett

23rd June 2008, 23:06

The election draws nigh........

If Helen gets in again, I genuinely don't know what I will do. Still...she is better than Robert Mugabe and his best mate Jacob Zuma.

McJim

23rd June 2008, 23:09

Still...she is better than Robert Mugabe and his best mate Jacob Zuma.

At what? Looking at Helen's teeth I'd rather take a blowjob from good ol' Bob Mugabe...he's originally from Lancashire y'know....coz when you spell his name backwards it's Ebagum (Eeeee by Gum!)

H00dz

23rd June 2008, 23:32

I suspect that the Maori WOF and licence is more of a political statement rather than a concerted atempt to make road travel safer. If this is true then I am, once again deeply disappointed. The licences, warrants and compliance enforced by the government of New Zealand on vehicles is not there to victimise any group but rather to ensure the roadworthiness of the public fleet of vehicles and the drivers who control them. When I find these regulations to be unsatisfactory I speak out. I have no idea of the rigour of the Maori WOF and licences and I merely pointed out that if they were not raised with appropriate rigour to ensure safety on the public highway then the issuing authority should be prepared to face the consequences of wielding this power.

Why has this caused you offence?

If I have got the wrong end of the Stick Mcjim i apologise..... after reading what you have said I have tried to read your original post without Emotion and I can tell you HONESTLY that I still dont get any Warm Fuzzies reading it the second time.... If you had posted something like this the first time you wouldnt havent got a peep out of me

FJRider

23rd June 2008, 23:34

Be interesting to see just how much money the Maori Parliament contributes to roading, healthcare etc.

A.C.C. ????

H00dz

23rd June 2008, 23:41

Mate, I couldn't really care less what colour or creed you are. I do respect that as a Maori you are part of one of NZ's earlier settlers and for that the Maori are due some respect and consideration, especially considering the way the euro's treated the earlier Maori, but come on...is it not time that it was water under the bridge? NZ is made up of KIWI's now. The race segregation stuff is dangerous.(not insinuating that you are segregating between Maori & other, just that McJim has some points in what he is saying).
NZ is made of Kiwis all run by one government representative of everyone & everyone has the same basic rights of a good health system, their own culture (which you are right in defending; it is what makes Maori who they are) education, security & safety etc. . This should be celebrated as a different culture...but there are certainly no requirements fo any one people to have special priveledges....

Brett

Shocking as this may Seem....I agree with what you say and have no problem accepting your thoughts because you have given it with forethought...but not the way the Mcjim posted the first one.....as it leaves to much to interpretation which as you can see can lead to misunderstanding as in this case..........

TOTO

24th June 2008, 00:18

I have applied for my full Maory Motorcycle licence and awaiting for it to be sent to me by mail.

Forget defencive driving coure, I'm going Maori. :woohoo:

vindy500

24th June 2008, 00:46

lol what a joke, ill just put it on there rent....

Forest

24th June 2008, 01:00

Why the fuck did he let the guy drive off? We all know there's no chance those fines will be paid.

If there's no warrant or rego, I think the police should be able tow the car and have it impounded.

Forest

24th June 2008, 01:03

Culpability ..... Thats rich coming from a fuckin SCOT .....Who bye the way got FUCKED over by the English just as much as the MAORI ......Keep ya ignorant Braveheart comments to yourself .......

The Scots receive more in government assistance than the pay in taxes. Which is hardly being "fucked over by the English".

Bit like the Maori if you think about it...

Sanx

24th June 2008, 01:09

Yep, he was a Class A (some pun intended) tosser alright.

But the cop had a good point. The Maori licence, warrant, rego, etc. might be valid, but not on roads governed by the laws of New Zealand. The Maori have enough land they've been handed back that the Maori Parliament (whoever the fuck they are) could build its own roads on where they'd be perfectly legal. But the rantings of the prick in the rooted Commodore simply reflected the same delusion claptrap spouted by Maori sovereignty activists throughout the country.

Toaster

24th June 2008, 03:20

It was actually a rooted Ford.

Toaster

24th June 2008, 03:24

Why the fuck did he let the guy drive off? We all know there's no chance those fines will be paid.

If there's no warrant or rego, I think the police should be able tow the car and have it impounded.

I agree, but the sheer volume of unregistered and unwarranted vehicles out there would cause even more storage issues for the tow companies paying rental per square metre on cars with residual sale values of bugger all to recoup their costs.

Maybe a more liberal use of the court confiscation and destruction option would be in order. They now do this in Aussie for some serious offenders/defaulters. The 'boy racers' have to watch their pride and joy be crushed.

Edbear

24th June 2008, 10:43

I agree, but the sheer volume of unregistered and unwarranted vehicles out there would cause even more storage issues for the tow companies paying rental per square metre on cars with residual sale values of bugger all to recoup their costs.

Maybe a more liberal use of the court confiscation and destruction option would be in order. They now do this in Aussie for some serious offenders/defaulters. The 'boy racers' have to watch their pride and joy be crushed.

Now there you go, talking sense again! :nono: I do think that any unregistered and unwarranted car, should be immediately "siezed" and prevented from driving off, if it is over a certain period. Say two months? Or if it is obviously in an unsafe condition.

A single case of a lapsed WOF or rego may be due to a slip of the mind or the driver may be addressing a minor WOF issue that doesn't detract from immediate safety, so some leeway should be incorporated.

Other than that, I agree with McJim... (except for the blowjob bit...)

scumdog

24th June 2008, 11:22

one.....as it leaves to much to interpretation which as you can see can lead to misunderstanding as in this case..........

Sorta like the Treaty eh?

Which I guess is linked to the fiasco that started this thread.

I wish there was one law/rule/rights for EVERYBODY who is a Kiwi, not a separatist reverse-racial discrimination as we have now.

Dakara

24th June 2008, 14:00

Sorta like the Treaty eh?

Which I guess is linked to the fiasco that started this thread.

I wish there was one law/rule/rights for EVERYBODY who is a Kiwi, not a separatist reverse-racial discrimination as we have now.

Exactly.

The more we have Maori this and Maori that the more this country will be divided. South Africa anyone?

I for one do not see myself as a racist, although I have been guilty of race stereotyping from time to time. But to me, having a political party based solely on race is rather... well... racist? Imagine if there was a "NZ European party"? and then an "Indian" party etc etc etc. Every year that passes the races are getting more and more watered down, I have no idea how much Maori blood you need in you to be considered "Maori" but judging by some of the Maori All Blacks and student on Maori Scholarships then it's not a hell of a lot. If we had individual governments based on race, I'd probably be able to have multiple choices.

Back in 1862 or whatever, yea some shit happened, it happened on every continent that someone decided to hop on a boat, discover and then claim. But my one answer to the whole "Give us back our land" claim, is to reply simply "Give us back our muskets and blankets, can't find them? Oh well."

I know I have very simplistic view of everything, simply because I don't care. Why? Because caring is stressful and nothings gonna change so long as the issue exists. One extreme is we don't recognize anything Maori, tell them to HTFU and the country remains divided. The other is we bow down and give them everything they want, and all live in little "European reserves" while the country goes to shit.

So yea, we're all Kiwi's, and anyone who's fighting otherwise is part of the problem not the solution. Both sides need to HTFU otherwise no one will win and we'll all be speaking Chinese in 50 years :shutup:

Sorry if my post has offended anyone in anyway, it was not my intention. I just don't give 2 shits about politics in this country anymore, I just live my own life from day to day with as little stress as possible. If it gets unbarable then I'm gonna piss off to Singapore (if I can get a job with Singapore airlines), thus adding to the great NZ brain drain caused solely by our Government :whocares::innocent:

H00dz

24th June 2008, 18:44

The Scots receive more in government assistance than the pay in taxes. Which is hardly being "fucked over by the English".

Bit like the Maori if you think about it...

LOL Again with ignorance, The SINGLE biggest Group of Beneficaries recieving government assistance is in fact those receiving "National Super" of which over 95% percent of them are not maori (over 200,000)..... but lets move on and get back to motorcycles on this we can ALL agree.....:apint:

firefighter

24th June 2008, 18:53

H00dz

24th June 2008, 18:58

Dude, WTF???????
tryin to move on here read the rest of the thread if your still upset ..... please just post red......."dont quote"

H00dz

24th June 2008, 19:08

Is this for real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ7JqoOVwJ4

Thanks Terbang,

Got my first Red rep on this Thread.......Was gonna happen sooner or later....feel ok it was off one of your threads as you do like to shake things up

I feel like a fully fledged member now LOL :2thumbsup

only wish the person who posted it had had the kahunas to sign it oh well neva mind !!!!

thats deserves some Bling (Green one) for you

Lias

25th June 2008, 10:45

only wish the person who posted it had had the kahunas to sign it oh well neva mind !!!!

Wasn't me, however if its any consolation I just gave you some more. At least you had the kahuna's to apologise to McJim thou.

avgas

25th June 2008, 10:49

aint it funny that a maori drivers license has the crown on it.

Forest

25th June 2008, 16:09

LOL Again with ignorance, The SINGLE biggest Group of Beneficaries recieving government assistance is in fact those receiving "National Super" of which over 95% percent of them are not maori (over 200,000)..... but lets move on and get back to motorcycles on this we can ALL agree.....:apint:

Unlike the benefits I was referring to, the eligibility for National Super is not based on race.

PirateJafa

25th June 2008, 16:25

A.C.C. ????

The man said "contribute to", not "leech from".

FJRider

25th June 2008, 18:04

..... but lets move on and get back to motorcycles on this we can ALL agree.....:apint:

I agree...:beer:

H00dz

25th June 2008, 20:21

Wasn't me, however if its any consolation I just gave you some more. At least you had the kahuna's to apologise to McJim thou.

Fair enuff I accept That :niceone:

The Pastor

26th June 2008, 11:36

nodrog

26th June 2008, 11:55

A.C.C. ????

na, K.F.C!

scumdog

26th June 2008, 14:05

Culpability ..... Thats rich coming from a fuckin SCOT .....Who bye the way got FUCKED over by the English just as much as the MAORI ......Keep ya ignorant Braveheart comments to yourself .......

Unlike certain other races us Scots (with exception of a few ding-bats) got over being 'FUCKED over by the English' and moved on in life and left that grievance shit behind us.

(Hey William Fitzsimmonds, can I get a cow off you seeing as how your great-great grand-dad stole one off our clan in 1735??:crazy:)

Lias

26th June 2008, 15:45

Unlike certain other races us Scots (with exception of a few ding-bats) got over being 'FUCKED over by the English' and moved on in life and left that grievance shit behind us.

Speak for yourself, I want a few billion pounds reperation.. I'll settle for a lifetime supply of Iron Bru, Glayva & Drambuie thou :yes: