The end of the world is nigh.

[SpankMe]

Don't believe them (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7468966.stm), in August we can all kiss our arses goodbye.



http://lh4.google.ca/abramsv/R94S7qtLi5I/AAAAAAAALzk/5t3algYTPXk/2046228644_daab5255bd_o.jpg?imgmax=512 (http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/cubes/5.jpg)

[mowgli]

Very cool.

Time to build that interstellar spaceship I've been planning. Screw this planet, I'm off to pollute another rock :rockon:

[Edbear]

Fascinating stuff! I've read a bit about particle accelerators, and this link was addressing the safety of the LHC.

http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/LHC/Safety-en.html

[mashman]

I saw this story about this time last year... should be fun to watch them fook it up...

[Finn]

It took years and years to build, cost billions of dollars, is 27 k's in size and makes... wait for it... nothing. Stupid machine.

[SpankMe]

It even looks like a doomsday device. :shit:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/CERN_CMS_endcap_2005_October.jpg/450px-CERN_CMS_endcap_2005_October.jpg

[vifferman]

Is it just me, or does this seem to anyone else to be about as scientific as "blowing shit up"?

I must say though - I'm kinda disappointed. Where's the horse?
And where's the :spudwhat: emotidweebicon?

[slofox]

Shades of Dan Brown's "Angels and Demons".........

[Finn]

Wonder what their power bill is going to look like.

Did you know they (CERN) invented the WWW? Bet you didn't.

[mashman]

Let's see now, i'm sure i've seen this somewhere before

http://devan1.tripod.com/Pics/FALCON01.GIF

Yippeeee it works...

http://devan1.tripod.com/Pics/FALCON05.GIF

Cigars and brandy all round... ooops

http://devan1.tripod.com/Pics/FALCON08.GIF

[Brett]

It looks like a big mechanical butt hole.

[Gubb]

The one in my Garage is bigger.

[avgas]

just a thing to kill a terminator like on T3

[Grub]

Hey, who changed the tread title??? I was just in the middle of composing a pithy post about Nay, neigh and nigh.

Oh that's right ...

[Sanx]

Wonder what their power bill is going to look like.

Did you know they (CERN) invented the WWW? Bet you didn't.

No, Tim Berners Lee defined the HTTP protocol, defined HTML 1.0, wrote the first HTTP Daemon and coined the term "World Wide Web" during the time he worked at CERN, but he did it in his spare time. It was not officially a CERN discovery.

[jrandom]

<img src="http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/large_hadron_collider.png"/>

[ManDownUnder]

All very interesting but I'd like to know if a black hole opens up, does that mean my mortgage is zeroed out, or I still have to pay it off?

[skidMark]

I don't care if le french made it.

I am blaming Canada.

[007XX]

Meh...just another good excuse for teenagers all over the world to have "pre-doomsday" loss of virginities, and for a shit loads of tree huggers to cry out "we told you so..."

Cool looking machine though.

*goes back to planning pre-doomsday orgy*

[Finn]

All very interesting but I'd like to know if a black hole opens up, does that mean my mortgage is zeroed out, or I still have to pay it off?

Yes, plus back interest.

[jrandom]

Don't believe them (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7468966.stm)...

"Beware of bugs in the above particle collider; we have only proven it correct, not tested it"?

:laugh:

[skidMark]

Meh...just another good excuse for teenagers all over the world to have "pre-doomsday" loss of virginities, and for a shit loads of tree huggers to cry out "we told you so..."

Cool looking machine though.

*goes back to planning pre-doomsday orgy*


I knew my 21st birthday wish would come true...

come 'ere :love:

[ManDownUnder]

Reading up on the Los Alamos project (development of the A Bomb in New Mexico during WWII) they had a similar dilemma just before pushign the button on it.

If I recall the concern if was to do with the energy levels causing spontaneous ignition of the air ... potentially globally.

[Mikkel]

Is it just me, or does this seem to anyone else to be about as scientific as "blowing shit up"?

Close - this is as scientific as "blowing shit up" gets! :Punk:


Reading up on the Los Alamos project (development of the A Bomb in New Mexico during WWII) they had a similar dilemma just before pushign the button on it.

If I recall the concern if was to do with the energy levels causing spontaneous ignition of the air ... potentially globally.

Yup - same went for the first H-bomb... There was a slight concern that the entire atmosphere would start burning and snuff out all life.



Anyway, I'm not sure what's gonna happen. Guess I'll just have to make sure I ride my bikes as much as possible have as much good sex as possible and eat as good food as possible - at least until august :yes:
In other words - no change there. :D

[007XX]

I knew my 21st birthday wish would come true...

come 'ere :love:

Can't find any girlfriend that doesn't go "Baah, baahhhh" in the South?

[Maha]

Can't find any girldfriend that doesn't go "Baah, baahhhh" in the South?


Thas sick 'V'....sounds like a widdle wee lamb....
Marks more a Ram Man!......Rove asked him once ''Who would you turn gay for''?....Mark said Shreks Father....(Shrek of the wooley kind)

[vifferman]

Thas sick 'V'....sounds like a widdle wee lamb....
Marks more a Ram Man!......Rove asked him once ''Who would you turn gay for''?....Mark said Shreks Father....(Shrek of the wooley kind)
Woo-oah, Black Betty, Ram the Man....

:blank:

[moT]

i really hope they prove those religious crazies wrong

[boomer]

The 'LHC data' black hole is pretty.:whistle:

[firefighter]

Shiiiit! look at that bloody thing- i'm no theorist but something that could possibly fu*k the planet when "tested" should not really be built, as if the Taliban weren't enough....all in the name of science though so that's ok......:(

[riffer]

I'm curious. What exactly can you do with a Higgs Boson? :confused:

[Ixion]

I wonder what that loose wire at the top rear of the closeup is supposed to be connected to? And would it make a difference if it shorted across to that OTHER wire?

And I reckon Pvt Higgs ought to be put on a month's stoppages for losing his Boson.

[moT]

I'm curious. What exactly can you do with a Higgs Boson? :confused:

if they find it they can study it and crush the tirrany of the church and make faster more fuel efficient motorcycles

[Mikkel]

Shiiiit! look at that bloody thing- i'm no theorist but something that could possibly fu*k the planet when "tested" should not really be built, as if the Taliban weren't enough....all in the name of science though so that's ok......:(

Yeah, it's terrible. All these horrible things being done in the name of science. Why waste all of that money on such infernal devices? Surely everything was better in the olden days...


I'm curious. What exactly can you do with a Higgs Boson? :confused:

Not a lot. But I think that they just want to see one to begin with actually...


if they find it they can study it and crush the tirrany of the church and make faster more fuel efficient motorcycles

Probably something more along the lines of 'oh, cool - the detected presence of a Higg's Boson following this collision supports theory X which in turn supports theory Y which might bring us one little step closer to a GUT.'
Pretty unexciting if you aren't into it :yes:

[Trouser]

With all the building and assembly and carry on they could have cut the wires to length.

[moT]

All very interesting but I'd like to know if a black hole opens up, does that mean my mortgage is zeroed out, or I still have to pay it off?

i dunno but i think all our insurance policys will be void

[mstriumph]

in August we can all kiss our arses goodbye.




..... the bloody French ..... <_<

[Coyote]

Black holes have been created before in smaller particle accelerators. That's how they found out about Hawking radiation after the black holes disappeared.

[McJim]

So that's what a collapsing hrung is! :rofl:

[R6_kid]

Think of all the money they could have saved if they all just tripped out on LSD once and a while... :eek:

[NighthawkNZ]

looking at that picture.... they have wired it up wrong... the proton accelarator shouldn't be connected directly to the magnetic core oh and the blue cable should go to the blue connection so the other blue cable goes.. oh never mind... :scratch:

[Oakie]

i dunno but i think all our insurance policys will be void

I'm sure I chose the option on my home and contents policy to includes black holes.
*goes to ring AMI to check*

[Conquiztador]

Wonder what their power bill is going to look like.

Did you know they (CERN) invented the WWW? Bet you didn't.

Wow!! The things you learn Had no idea they were in to wrestling!!

[Oakie]

With all the building and assembly and carry on they could have cut the wires to length.

I think all the cables have to be the same length so electrickery is delivered at precisely the same time across the whole thing, kind of like in the trigger device of a nuclear bomb ... hmmm, 'like a nuclear bomb...'

[Xaria]

John Ringos Sci Fi book, Into the Looking Glass (http://johnringo.com/Books/Intothelookingglass/) actually has this machine. Awesome read if anyone is interested.

[Conquiztador]

U know, that when the first atomic bomb was used nobody knew what the outcome would be. They had come to the conclusion that there was a big chance that it would create a chain reaction that would blow up the world... They still decided to trial it to find out. Luckily they were wrong.

[Disco Dan]

Anyone ever played that PC game Half Life?

It's centered around a similar machine deep underground... when the experiment goes wrong and opens up a hole to another dimension where all these really weird alien creatures jump through and kill everyone.

[Skyryder]

Of course the world going to end by CERN. Dan Brown said so.

Skyyrder

[Oakie]

So that's what a collapsing hrung is! :rofl:

I was on a ladder once when one of the hrungs collpsed under me.

[Oakie]

*goes back to planning pre-doomsday orgy*

I can take photos of the activities for posterity if you like. Oh hang on ... there won't be a posterity will there? Ah well. At least you know they wouldn't end up on some dodgy internet site.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Angels and Demons - great read - BEWARE THE ILLUMANATI

[Sully60]

Wow!! The things you learn Had no idea they were in to wrestling!!

No, thats the Word Wildlife Fund your thinking of:lol:

[Winston001]

Exciting stuff lads, we are living in a age of science fiction. The Higgs Boson is predicted by the Standard Model of particle physics - but hasn't been seen by anyone. So the Large Hadron Collider should generate a few free ones with any luck.

Yes there might even be a momentary black hole but very tiny and it evaporates. Cool stuff.

All part of working out a Grand Unified Theory to explain the weak electrical force, the strong nuclear force, electromagnetism, and gravity.

And hey - if this means fusion motorcycle engines - bring it on! :clap:

[jrandom]

It's centered around a similar machine deep underground... when the experiment goes wrong and opens up a hole to another dimension...

<img src="http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/08jun/uf011602.gif"/>

[Mikkel]

i can haz Higg's Boson?

[jrandom]

i can haz Higg's Boson?

im in ur large hadron collider

eating ur strangelets

[riffer]

Please no not the lolcats. I've only just recovered from the weekend. Seems that all the bloody kids ever want to look at...

[Mikkel]

im in ur large hadron collider

eating ur strangelets

Someone set us up the LHC...

All your Boson are belong to us!

[Disco Dan]

im in ur large hadron collider

eating ur strangelets

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/justinwilkin/1199585332501.jpg

[avgas]

This was a trial......

[pyrocam]

Only 2 more weeks to go till they start firing it up for real.

http://www.blackholebunker.com to save yourselves!

[riffer]

Nah. Heaps of time.

They only test the system on Sept 10.

The real end of the world is Oct 21 2008.

Which is about 3 days after the most likely snap election date in NZ.

[Ocean1]

Meh.

I've been using hidiously expensive machinery to collide shit at high velocities for fookin' yonks and the world's still spinning.


*wobbles a bit is all...*

[puddytat]

Hope they invite all the leading politicians,religious leaders etc to the test & sit them in the middle of it so if it goes"black" we solve at least one problem...

[Ocean1]

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/UI7i7F5d6RQ&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/UI7i7F5d6RQ&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

[Skyryder]

Someone's been reading too much of Dan Brown.


Skyryder

[rustycharm]

Reading up on the Los Alamos project (development of the A Bomb in New Mexico during WWII) they had a similar dilemma just before pushign the button on it.

If I recall the concern if was to do with the energy levels causing spontaneous ignition of the air ... potentially globally.
.... but they still pushed the button anyway

[Magua]

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/05/14/070514fa_fact_kolbert?currentPage=1

An excellent article on the project.

[10bikekid]

It will never fly, and as others have noted, its pretty obvious they got some of the wires round the wrong way:rolleyes:

But if per chance it works I want one for my Harley:cool:

[marioc]

Shades of Dan Brown's "Angels and Demons".........

exactly what i was thinking.....

[alanzs]

If it's the end of the world, I want the last cheque I write to bounce.

[Mikkel]

.... but they still pushed the button anyway

If there is a button it is meant to be pushed! :yes:
Has worked for me, without major incidents, so far...

And the ladies don't mind either :sunny:

Can't see why anyone would be anxious about it. After all we need to see what happens. And if we blow everything to smithereens then that's probably meant to happen anyway :rolleyes:

[rustycharm]

If there is a button it is meant to be pushed! :yes:
Has worked for me, without major incidents, so far...
And the ladies don't mind either :sunny:
Can't see why anyone would be anxious about it. After all we need to see what happens. And if we blow everything to smithereens then that's probably meant to happen anyway :rolleyes:


People have been pushing my buttons for years..:brick:

[Mikkel]

People have been pushing my buttons for years..:brick:

Well, if you haven't exploded yet it can't be too bad :D

[Qkchk]

The big bang is happening tomorrow!

Found a great site that shows the guts of the LHC all in 3D. Its like being there. (http://petermccready.com/portfolio/05091901.html)

[bomma]

dammit if only i had known about this earlier!!! wouldn't have spent my last moments on earth on bloody kb....would be pissed off my face in some random girls bed....:oi-grr:

[slimjim]

What.:whistle:.. but i wanta see who's gona be in goverment.. :yawn:

[Qkchk]

If your interested in the LHC, here is a timeline of the build (http://lhc-milestones.web.cern.ch/LHC-Milestones/year1994-en.html)......... bloody amazing.

And the official site. (http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/Welcome.html)

[NighthawkNZ]

http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/

[rustycharm]

still here.... the only black hole i can see is the same one thats always there when ever i log onto my bank account.....

[slimjim]

:sunny: yes and it looks like Winston lives as well.. big cost for such a little dot on the screen...:shit:

[EatOrBeEaten]

I listened to it on the radio this morning, or at least the beeb's reporter getting a little over-excited. Pretty disappointed that there wasn't a huge "whooooom" noise or anything, but nice that it worked.

I'm a science teacher so the kids have been asking me if we were all going to die for weeks now! One got a bit confused, thought the Swiss were coming here in order to kill us all with black hole guns, which is pretty cool now I think about it...

[pyrocam]

I listened to it on the radio this morning, or at least the beeb's reporter getting a little over-excited. Pretty disappointed that there wasn't a huge "whooooom" noise or anything, but nice that it worked.

I'm a science teacher so the kids have been asking me if we were all going to die for weeks now! One got a bit confused, thought the Swiss were coming here in order to kill us all with black hole guns, which is pretty cool now I think about it...

I never thought about that! perhaps Blackholebunker.com scientists can work on some black hole riot shields and military defense contracts.

[SpankMe]

The experiments that are supposed to "end the world" are still a month away. All they've done so far is a bit of testing.

[yod]

One got a bit confused, thought the Swiss were coming here in order to kill us all with black hole guns, which is pretty cool now I think about it...

:laugh:

that's awesome!

[Ixion]

Well, that was a blurdy disappointment. I was looking forward to watching the end of the universe. I reckon they ought to be done for false advertising.

[pyrocam]

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html
they are just about to run some more tests

[Dave-]

http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/

[imdying]

Aww man, beaten :'(

[idb]

So...after all this time, planning and money it turns out that nothing really happens when the thing is switched on...will that prove the theory wrong...or does it just mean that the machine doesn't work...how would you know?

[Winston001]

I'm fascinated by this project but wonder why it has attracted so much attention? All good IMHO because pure science tends to be pretty much ignored by the media generally.

CERN (The European Organisation for Nuclear Research) which built and runs the LHC was established in 1954. In 1989 the Large Electron-Positron collider was completed being the largest electron-positron accelerator ever built with a circumference of 27 km (16.8 miles). That is what the LHC uses.

So, the huge under-ground ring was actually completed 19 years ago and at that time was the largest engineering work ever completed in Europe - prior to the Chunnel.

The LHC is the biggest machine ever built - but the media reports completely overlook the fact the tunnel already existed and is a piece of remarkable engineering in itself.

Now - how about a bit of a look at the fusion reactor in France - http://www.iter.org/

[Mr Merde]

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

[Mr Merde]

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

[imdying]

So...after all this time, planning and money it turns out that nothing really happens when the thing is switched on...will that prove the theory wrong...or does it just mean that the machine doesn't work...how would you know?Well, it's still an if, but if it doesn't do what they hope, it'll merely prove the theory wrong (or as I understand it a large branch of what they call 'New Physics' or something like that). They obviously think that's worth spending serious coin to work out, so presumably someone smart knows what's going on :D

[Winston001]

So...after all this time, planning and money it turns out that nothing really happens when the thing is switched on...will that prove the theory wrong...or does it just mean that the machine doesn't work...how would you know?

Ok, if the collisions don't slow down the particles, then there is no Higgs-Boson which means......hmmmm, no gravity created, which upsets the current quantuum model. So as Hawking says, no Higgs is exciting cos that means physicists are wrong and have to look in new directions.

At the heart of the matter, we don't know why or how gravity exists. It may be a type of glue at the quantuum level but so far there isn't a particle which explains it. The Higgs-Boson is thought to be the answer, acting like molasses to slow down all other particles and thus making them heavy.

[chrisso]

Well the world didnt end.Bugger. better luck next time Theoretical Physicist boffins

[idb]

Ok, if the collisions don't slow down the particles, then there is no Higgs-Boson which means......hmmmm, no gravity created, which upsets the current quantuum model. So as Hawking says, no Higgs is exciting cos that means physicists are wrong and have to look in new directions.

At the heart of the matter, we don't know why or how gravity exists. It may be a type of glue at the quantuum level but so far there isn't a particle which explains it. The Higgs-Boson is thought to be the answer, acting like molasses to slow down all other particles and thus making them heavy.

Maybe it just means that there's no such thing as gravity...

[NighthawkNZ]

Maybe it just means that there's no such thing as gravity...


Yeah gravity is a myth the earth sux

[idb]

Yeah gravity is a myth the earth sux

Or the earth is flat so everything just sits on it anyway...

[Mr Merde]

Or the earth is flat so everything just sits on it anyway...

Except for the 4 elephants on the back of the turtle swimming through space

[Winston001]

Except for the 4 elephants on the back of the turtle swimming through space

Gad. :eek: I think we have a breakthrough. The Higgs-Boson is in fact..............THE LUGGAGE :bleh:

[Mr Merde]

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/8246/largehardoncolliderme5.png

[Ixion]

And now someone has hacked (http://www.stuff.co.nz/4692267a28.html)the computer controlling the thing. I wonder if my travel insurance covers black hole voyaging?

[pyrocam]

recentish news.

A LHC Scientist Terrorist has been Arrested in France
The European Organization for Nuclear Research, said French officials arrested the man on Thursday in south-east France for suspected al-Qaeda links.
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2...009/10/09/collider-arrest-france.html

Even the Universe doesnt want the LHC to work
" like a time traveler who goes back in time to kill his grandfather."
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/science/space/13lhc.html?_r=2

LHC coming back online, currently operating at colder than deep space
Officials now plan to circulate a beam around the LHC in the second half of November. Engineers will then aim to smash low-intensity beams together, giving scientists their first data.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8309875.stm

Most importantly http://www.Blackholebunker.com has a limited new stock get in quick they will sell out fast! and now sells hoodies too.
http://www.blackholebunker.com/
http://www.blackholebunker.com/files/pbunkersm_promo.jpg

[Winston001]

Cheers for the update, I'd been thinking about posting the Universe won't let the LHC run stuff. :D Pretty wild but the trouble is the guys who suggest this are respected physicists and have the maths to back it up. Maybe the Universe doesn't want the Higgs Boson to appear at this time......:banana:

[NighthawkNZ]

And now someone has hacked (http://www.stuff.co.nz/4692267a28.html)the computer controlling the thing. I wonder if my travel insurance covers black hole voyaging?

Yah better check that... :wacko:

[idb]

Where does the Green Party stand on all this?
Quite apart from the knowledge that we are all going to get sucked into Geneva, who is speaking up for the protons?

It was usual 50 years ago to study animals by shooting and killing them but I thought we had moved on from that.
Now we are proposing to study particles by smashing them to pieces and seeing what happens?

It also reminds me of being a kid and sticking your finger in a flame or power outlet to see if it hurts.

What happens when, in 100 years time, we realise that we are down to the last couple of protons, will we smash them together as well, stick them in a museum, sell them by auction to some rich bastard to lock them away in his private collection...?
All I know is that I don't want to be here when we run out of protons!!!

[burden2]

We can run out of protons without any problem. What the scientists have been keeping a secret is that protons are outnumbered on earth by a recently discovered particle called a Moron. Seemingly they abound in structures called "offices", "governments" and "Hone Harawira's Electoral Office". They reproduce prolifically and in some cases the reproductive cycle is speeded up by moving them from one "office" to another called a "government department" where they are free to interbreed and although this tends to produce a lower quality Moron the amount of interaction they are allowed with another form of Moron called a "Reporter" can actually inflate the size of the Moron to very significant size. Although generally benign in nature Morons should be destroyed as soon as more than one is found in an "office" so as to prevent the formation of any sort of "government department". The common firearm, kitchen utensil or even short length of pipe can be utilised and but creativity is encouraged in eradication methods. Although personally satisfying and contributing much to society in general the act of destroying a Moron will attract little or no moral outrage but will invariably produce significant audible pollution form another virulent but fortunately rare form of Moron, the Environmentalist. This pollution is very shortlived and can be safely ignored

[idb]

What happens when you smash two morons together?

[mashman]

What happens when you smash two morons together?

You end up with Hone Harawira...

Birds stop play... again... http://www.3news.co.nz/Baguette-problem-halts-work-on-Large-Hadron-Collider/tabid/412/articleID/128714/Default.aspx?ArticleID=128714