Motorists!

[nivram]

MOTORISTS. Pressing your 'fog lights' switch a second time after the fog has cleared will actually turn your fog lights off.

[firefighter]

Yeah and don't drive with your damn PARKLIGHTS on!!!headlights or nothing it doesn't look cool or anything.....!!!

[CB ARGH]

If I had a Holden Clubby I'd have the lights on the whole time.

Oh my god, for the first time EVER. While saying "When I have an HSV" I actually went naaah...

I'm a bikie now!!!!! :banana:

meaning, FUCK THE CAGE.

I'm free! :beer:

[Swoop]

I think that the wind is gettin the cagers into a weird mindset.

While filtering this morning, there was a marked increase of fuckwittism(tm) going on.
Mirrorectomys'-'R'-us, almost had an emergency callout.

[Qkchk]

MOTORISTS. Pressing your 'fog lights' switch a second time after the fog has cleared will actually turn your fog lights off.

Have you actually thought that some people drive with their foglights / driving lights on so they can be seen too?! They are being just as defensive as you are riding with your headlight on..........

However if you are talking about a rear foglight, then I can understand why you are annoyed. :yeah:


No law about driving with you headlights on during the day - as long as they are dipped and not on park only.

[NOMIS]

mine go on when I turn the car on cant help it, bloody honda torneo.

[Nasty]

Have you actually thought that some people drive with their foglights / driving lights on so they can be seen too?! They are being just as defensive as you are riding with your headlight on..........

However if you are talking about a rear foglight, then I can understand why you are annoyed. :yeah:


No law about driving with you headlights on during the day - as long as they are dipped and not on park only.

I have no issue with lights on .. it is great to be able to see those grey coloured cars ... but as you said the rear fog light ... bloody hell those things are painful ... at night and day!

[mowgli]

Have you actually thought that some people drive with their foglights / driving lights on so they can be seen too?! They are being just as defensive as you are riding with your headlight on..........
Defensive, maybe. Inconsiderate, definitely. Breaking the law, almost certainly unless it's actually foggy.

Use of optional lights
(1) A driver may use a fog lamp only in conditions of severely reduced visibility, including fog or snow, but not under clear atmospheric conditions even during the hours of darkness.

[Qkchk]

Defensive, maybe. Inconsiderate, definitely. Breaking the law, almost certainly unless it's actually foggy.

So how do you define the difference between fog and driving lights?

[mowgli]

So how do you define the difference between fog and driving lights?

Driving lights are essentially extra headlights that are aimed and (sometimes) dipped along with the main headlights. Driving lights shouldn't shine directly at oncoming vehicles when the main lights are dipped.

Fog lights are bright and glarey designed to light you up like a beacon in poor visibility. If you take away the poor visibility then all you get is bright and glarey which is IMHO very inconsiderate.

[Qkchk]

Driving lights are essentially extra headlights that are aimed and (sometimes) dipped along with the main headlights. Driving lights shouldn't shine directly at oncoming vehicles when the main lights are dipped.

Fog lights are bright and glarey designed to light you up like a beacon in poor visibility. If you take away the poor visibility then all you get is bright and glarey which is IMHO very inconsiderate.

So you are saying that my driving lights on my car that point down are actually fog lights now?

[Qkchk]

This should clarify things:

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/vehicles/get-your-lights-right.html

"Front fog lamps must be white or amber in colour. When purchasing front fog lamps, it is your responsibility to ensure they meet approved standards and are designed for that specific purpose. If in doubt, consult a vehicle lighting retailer."

Thats where the confusion is.......... they can be white or amber (even tho the old school fog lights are yellow)

[mowgli]

So you are saying that my driving lights on my car that point down are actually fog lights now?

If they're pointing down (below the eye-line of oncoming drivers) then I wouldn't be concerned. Neither should the coppers as they wouldn't be causing a nuisance.

[cooneyr]

Yeah and don't drive with your damn PARKLIGHTS on!!!headlights or nothing it doesn't look cool or anything.....!!!

OOOOOO - dont get me started on this PARK does not equal DRIVE :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: The number of numpties who drive around with park lights on when it is foggy/snowing/dark morning etc etc.


So how do you define the difference between fog and driving lights?

Fog lights are often lower on the vehicle than the headlights (they work much better if they are as far away from eye height as possible) and they normally have a wide spread beam.

Driving lights a well focused beams that are suppose to only come on with the high beam lights.


This should clarify things:

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/vehicles/get-your-lights-right.html


The relevant lines from that link are

"They give off a short, wide beam of light that is designed to shine through the fog, lighting up the area directly in front of the vehicle and helping the driver see the sides of the road better."

Cheers R

[BMW_RACER]

but as you said the rear fog light ... bloody hell those things are painful ... at night and day!

Dont tail gate me or sit up my ass with your high beams on and I wont turn them on.

But I think the biggest problem is people not knowing that they even have rear fog lights. My mum was driving around with rear fog lights turned on for years, she didnt even know she had rear fog lights until I pointed in out and turned them off for her.

[Ragingrob]

Well I turn the fog lights on when driving my gf's car, yes they must be fog lights as the switch has a kinda hazy fog image on it, and they are neither aimed at peoples eyes nor blinding in any way possible. They are below the headlights and are my preference to driving with headlights one when it's not dark.

[Qkchk]

Fog lights are often lower on the vehicle than the headlights (they work much better if they are as far away from eye height as possible) and they normally have a wide spread beam.

Driving lights a well focused beams that are suppose to only come on with the high beam lights.



The relevant lines from that link are

"They give off a short, wide beam of light that is designed to shine through the fog, lighting up the area directly in front of the vehicle and helping the driver see the sides of the road better."

Cheers R

Taken off a website

"Fog lights work together with your low-beams to improve your visibility in foul weather, such as fog, rain, snow and mist. They emit a low, wide pattern of light that's designed to shine below the haze. This reduces the amount of blinding glare that occurs when you turn on your hi-beams in foggy weather."

So those lights fitted at the bottom are classed as Fog lights, hence should not be used?

I have always known them as 'Driving Lights' or as 'Daytime Running Lights'. Some trucks use LED strips or the orange LED blocks for the same job.

This is where the law has been left behind with the times.... :scratch:

[Ragingrob]

Oh oh oh I know! Don't look at the shiny lights and you won't get blinded :niceone:

[Sanx]

Driving lights - secondary sets of headlights, usually with the same pattern as full-beam.
Running-lights / sidelights / parking lights - low-intensity lights designed to improve the visibility of the vehicle in low-light conditions
Fog-lights - high intensity lights designed to help you see, or be seen, in impaired visibility conditions, like fog or heavy snow.

To that, you can also add the odd turning lights that seem to be fitted to many Japanese import cars triggered by the headlights being on and the indicator being activated.

Impaired visibility conditions does not equate to rain or darkness; it's where the atmospheric conditions mean you cannot see as far as usual. There's no hard and fast rule in NZ, but in many other countries it's taken to mean visibility is less than 100m or less than the distance equal to two seconds worth of driving.

[Nasty]

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[BMW_RACER]

Impaired visibility conditions does not equate to rain or darkness; it's where the atmospheric conditions mean you cannot see as far as usual. There's no hard and fast rule in NZ, but in many other countries it's taken to mean visibility is less than 100m or less than the distance equal to two seconds worth of driving.

OH LOL.

Darkness dosent impair your vision and neither does rain?
AHAHAHAHAHAH

[Gubb]

OH LOL.

Darkness dosent impair your vision and neither does rain?
AHAHAHAHAHAH

Did you actually read his quote?

[Sanx]

OH LOL.

Darkness dosent impair your vision and neither does rain?
AHAHAHAHAHAH

Very heavy rain does, but not to the point that high-visibility lights are required. And no, darkness does not impair my vision.

Fuckwit.

[cooneyr]

Taken off a website

"Fog lights work together with your low-beams to improve your visibility in foul weather, such as fog, rain, snow and mist. They emit a low, wide pattern of light that's designed to shine below the haze. This reduces the amount of blinding glare that occurs when you turn on your hi-beams in foggy weather."

So those lights fitted at the bottom are classed as Fog lights, hence should not be used?

I have always known them as 'Driving Lights' or as 'Daytime Running Lights'. Some trucks use LED strips or the orange LED blocks for the same job.

This is where the law has been left behind with the times.... :scratch:

I think I know the ones you mean - the Nissan's trucks often have square lights down in the bumper below the normal head lights. I think these are actually driving lights. For other trucks, if they are LED's or pencil type beams they will be driving lights.

Fog lights are usually pretty obvious (on a car in NZ) because they are big round orible looking things ~300mm diameter. Lots of Merivale tractors (and other wannaby 4wd's) are actually driving around with fog lights not driving lights.

Cheers R

[Dave Lobster]

Seems like an apt time to post this pic

[nivram]

I was talking about those rear fog lights they drive me mad when there on during a clear day, BMW drivers are the worst for this. :)

[rudolph]

Stupid holdens with there gay driving lights

[BMW_RACER]

I was talking about those rear fog lights they drive me mad when there on during a clear day, BMW drivers are the worst for this. :)

Proballay because mostly euro cars are the only cars with rear fog lights.
If all the jap cars had rear fogs they would all have their rear fogs on aswell :)