How not to get side swiped.

[howdamnhard]

Well if wasn´t enough that the wind was gusting almost 100km/h , the rain was pouring down and it was nightime ,then some idiot cager tries to side swipe me.Coming up to intersection cage moves to L/H lane and slows, I remain in centre lane,which gives me the option of going straight or turning right.Other cages in R/H lane turning right.As I´m alongside cage on left notice he has put indicator to turn right and is moving over into my lane.Simultaneously hit the horn ,move to the right of my lane and accerelate smoothly past idiot:mad:. I have found in the past the use of the horn very useful in letting cages know your there when they don´t see you in their blindspot(have that finger/thumb ready).Moving to the opposite side of your lane gives you more space(hence time to react) .Knowing whether to accelerate or brake depends on your relative speeds.I.e. if the cage is slightly behind you or alongside you and slowing down then accelerate.If they are ahead or alongside you but moving faster than you then obviously decelerate.
Well thats my two cents worth,feel free to add your own advice.:Punk:

[devnull]

Yeah, was a pretty sucky ride home tonight...

Hit a hailstorm half way home, then noticed that my pants had developed a small leak. :(

[rie]

i think it's a good idea to toot your horn even when you THINK the cager MIGHT be in a position to not see you. give them the friendly, rapidfire toot bikers do whenever they pass a motorcycle shop so they don't think you're an angry c***
;)

for good measure, wave at them like crazy, as though they're your best friend you haven't seen in fifteen years. they give you funny looks but at least they've seen you.

in crazy weather like this at nighttime i would stay WELL clear of cars. you'll get home half an hour later than usual, but you'd be in one piece. it's good to remember that cagers are more desperate than usual to get home when it's raining and dark.

[howdamnhard]

in crazy weather like this at nighttime i would stay WELL clear of cars. you'll get home half an hour later than usual, but you'd be in one piece. it's good to remember that cagers are more desperate than usual to get home when it's raining and dark.[/QUOTE]
Yes cagers seem to drive even crazier when the weather is wild,that example was only the worst of many tonight.
Agreed when in doubt ,toot,and waving will also indicate your friendly intentions.Unlike my open handed gesture tonight which was more along the line of ¨ what the f@#k do you think you are doing¨.:lol::lol::lol:

[howdamnhard]

it a hailstorm half way home, then noticed that my pants had developed a small leak. :([/QUOTE]
Hmmm that hail is slippery stuff.:eek5:Get a one piece waterproof overall,keeps you nice and dry.I gave up with my Spool cordura pants.They would leak through the crotch seams,hmm wet crotch when taking your gear off not a good look.:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[devnull]

hehe.... my little boy didn't like my cold hands when I gave him a hug when I got home either :)

[howdamnhard]

hehe.... my little boy didn't like my cold hands when I gave him a hug when I got home either :)
The main thing is you got home to give him one.:clap:

[portokiwi]

A new day more rain. my wet weathers are now wet weathers lol. Only so many days in a row you can ride before it starts to seep in.
Cold wet ride to work this morning at least not nany cars on the road at 0630.

[CB ARGH]

for good measure, wave at them like crazy, as though they're your best friend you haven't seen in fifteen years. they give you funny looks but at least they've seen you.




Perhaps an even better idea is to keep both hands on the handlebars :wari:

I've got a lot coming my way, picking up the bike (writeoff) tonight, and hopefully she'll be on the road in a fortnight or so. :innocent:

Cheers for the tips guys and gals!

[howdamnhard]

A new day more rain. my wet weathers are now wet weathers lol. Only so many days in a row you can ride before it starts to seep in.
Cold wet ride to work this morning at least not nany cars on the road at 0630.

Get a rain overall,only my feet get wet( dririder boots) now.Got an Ixion one from Botany Honda,they work a treat and dry off quickly.Gave up with supposedly waterproof cordura,now wear leathers under the waterproof overall.
Even less traffic at 0530,yeha.

[mouldy]

They put kevlar knuckle protectors in gloves for a reason , if they don't use their mirrors they don't need them . all car drivers are miopic morons .

[alanzs]

i think it's a good idea to toot your horn even when you THINK the cager MIGHT be in a position to not see you. give them the friendly, rapidfire toot bikers do whenever they pass a motorcycle shop so they don't think you're an angry c***
;)

Preemptive actions saves lives. I have an extra loud Fliamm horn and use it whenever I even think the cage isn't seeing me. Survival is first, courtesy is much further down the list. :blink:

[The Pastor]

I have found in the past the use of the horn very useful in letting cages know your there when they don´t see you in their blindspot(have that finger/thumb ready).

Woah. It's almost like they designed the horn for that exact reason.

What will be your next "discovery" round wheels rotate better than bent ones?:banana::cool::2thumbsup:lol:

[howdamnhard]

[QUOTE=renegade master;1627006]Woah. It's almost like they designed the horn for that exact reason.

If you haven´t got anything constructive to say shut the F@#K up!:2thumbsup

[alanzs]

[QUOTE=renegade master;1627006]Woah. It's almost like they designed the horn for that exact reason.

If you haven´t got anything constructive to say shut the F@#K up!:2thumbsup

Did you mean FUCK up? I could only see the F and a @ and a # as well as a K. Something must be wrong with your, computer? :laugh:

[howdamnhard]

[QUOTE=howdamnhard;1628228]

Did you mean FUCK up? I could only see the F and a @ and a # as well as a K. Something must be wrong with your, computer? :laugh:

Yeh thats what I mean´t,damn computer keys are all broken.:laugh:

[Badjelly]

I have found in the past the use of the horn very useful in letting cages know you're there when they don´t see you in their blind spot (have that finger/thumb ready).


Woah. It's almost like they designed the horn for that exact reason. What will be your next "discovery" round wheels rotate better than bent ones?:banana::cool::2thumbsup:lol:

Well, yeah, but it's one thing to know that you can use your horn as a warning device and another to actually use it early enough. What I tend to do is go, "He must have seen me. Surely he must have seen me. SURELY he must have seen me. Blaaaaaaaaaaap/swerve/brake." So use the horn early, politely if you can manage it, at the "He must have seen me" stage.

And there are people who say that horns are of little use in an emergency because they distract you from avoiding the crash. (But they're wrong.)

So, howdamnhard's advice is all good IMHO. I see your :banana::cool::2thumbsup:lol: and raise you a :clap::wari:

[sinfull]

Usually dont have time to toot at them, too busy twisting the throttle to get out of the way ! Sometimes so quickly my legs (left in that occasion) fly up with the g force and my boot sometimes (accuracy is everything) smashes into the wing mirror of the car (accidentally of course) !
Funny thing is this smashing sound seems to have the same effect as tooting the horn !
Seriously though yr prolly lucky ya caught sight of his indicator, or that he did just that, indicate and wasn't a lane jumper !

[alanzs]

[QUOTE=alanzs;1630278]

Yeh thats what I mean´t,damn computer keys are all broken.:laugh:

Fucking computers, all fucking breaking at the wrong time... :rolleyes:

[howdamnhard]

So, howdamnhard's advice is all good IMHO. I see your :banana::cool::2thumbsup:lol: and raise you a :clap::wari:

Why thankyou.:2thumbsup

[howdamnhard]

Usually dont have time to toot at them, too busy twisting the throttle to get out of the way ! Sometimes so quickly my legs (left in that occasion) fly up with the g force and my boot sometimes (accuracy is everything) smashes into the wing mirror of the car (accidentally of course) !
Funny thing is this smashing sound seems to have the same effect as tooting the horn !
Seriously though yr prolly lucky ya caught sight of his indicator, or that he did just that, indicate and wasn't a lane jumper !

Ha,ha very good.Twisting the throttle works well with more powerful bikes but lets say the GN250 is a little lacking in that department:scooter:, hence me looking to upgrade.Yes seeing his indicator definitely gave me more time but I try not rely on indicators as most drivers think they are for decoration,normally the large chunk of metal moving into my lane queues me in.:2thumbsup

[sinfull]

Yeah ! but if ya in the middle of three lanes , cars either side, odds are both drivers never use thier indicators ! Its like walking into the open in a paintball game, if ya make a habit of it, ya gonna get pinged on a gn !
Sounds like your perifivial vision works mate ! As i said in another thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1628928#post1628928) ya have to practise using ya perifivial sooo much more, almost looking at ten points of view at once !
Its prolly why ya hear so much from cage drivers, about bikes carving them up ! Well sometimes ya cant help yaself, its like dodging them paint balls when ya do have the power haha ! No sooner are ya past the first possible threat, waiting to see the next driver look in his mirror to see your there, a gap opens and its ahhh f**k it and ya gone past him.
Whats he gonna think ? That you were doing 130 k the whole time and just flew past him ! Not that you were just sitting on his tail for 30 seconds but he never saw ya, and so became a threat !
Riding a gn, i'd be finding someone safe that uses his mirrors and hug him lol, other cars wont hit him cause they've seen him and if your his shadow, well hello!
As i pointed out in said other thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1628928#post1628928), driver mentallity is to look in their mirror for a 5' wide grille. That driver you had a near miss with may have even seen you, but subconsously it didn't register. But then of course we all know how big a blind spot some cars have ???? (by your comments i'd say you do, but ya read so many threads by noobs abusing car drivers for not seeing them)
I say it's rider responsibillity to be SEEN, make sure their indications have been SEEN, even if it takes a toot of the horn to make them look in the mirror !

[howdamnhard]

Yeah ! but if ya in the middle of three lanes , cars either side, odds are both drivers never use thier indicators ! Its like walking into the open in a paintball game, if ya make a habit of it, ya gonna get pinged on a gn !
Sounds like your perifivial vision works mate ! As i said in another thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1628928#post1628928) ya have to practise using ya perifivial sooo much more, almost looking at ten points of view at once !
Its prolly why ya hear so much from cage drivers, about bikes carving them up ! Well sometimes ya cant help yaself, its like dodging them paint balls when ya do have the power haha ! No sooner are ya past the first possible threat, waiting to see the next driver look in his mirror to see your there, a gap opens and its ahhh f**k it and ya gone past him.
Whats he gonna think ? That you were doing 130 k the whole time and just flew past him ! Not that you were just sitting on his tail for 30 seconds but he never saw ya, and so became a threat !
Riding a gn, i'd be finding someone safe that uses his mirrors and hug him lol, other cars wont hit him cause they've seen him and if your his shadow, well hello!
As i pointed out in said other thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1628928#post1628928), driver mentallity is to look in their mirror for a 5' wide grille. That driver you had a near miss with may have even seen you, but subconsously it didn't register. But then of course we all know how big a blind spot some cars have ???? (by your comments i'd say you do, but ya read so many threads by noobs abusing car drivers for not seeing them)
I say it's rider responsibillity to be SEEN, make sure their indications have been SEEN, even if it takes a toot of the horn to make them look in the mirror !

Agreed,I often use a cage in front of me as a buffer at intersections.I also try ensure I have an escape route.Cagers are programmed to only register other cagers,often bikes are just to small to feature on their subconscious radar.Presuming they haven´t seen you is best.Often they have seen you when you have right of way and go anyway,thinking to themselves ¨ well your going to hurt more than me¨.Same attitude trucks have with cagers.Going to upgrade to something bigger,I prefer having the extra option of twisting the throttle to escape.