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GurlRacer
28th June 2008, 12:54
Hi everyone,

Today we lost well known and loved member Zukin (or Gaybin, Oldboy or Scott as you may also know him) in a motorcycle accident in the Coromandel. I haven't found any threads about this, and I know that generally you don't make posts (or let them exist) until next of kin has been informed...

He was the best father I could of ever had... He had a zest for life, which no shoes could fill. We all knew and loved that goofy smile he had, whether he be in those attractive orange overalls at trackdays, thrashing the GSR on the Targa roads, out on a bike in the middle of no where, or just simply sitting down with me having a cold ale as he would say.

I do not know details of the accident yet, I think I'll probably wait until I'm back in New Zealand.. so please don't post up details if you know. And I'm sure the other two members that were with him (God Bless You, I hope you are ok!) wont want to read it either.

Most importantly of all, he went doing something he LOVED. He lived for motorbikes and KB... all I heard was "KB adventure this, and KB member that" so I know he went the best possible way. He was a firm believer in "Die with memories, not with dreams!" and he achieved this better than anyone I know... maybe not in the number of years he spent with us, but certainly in the experiences he had and the love he shared. He will be greatly missed...

I will post up details of the funeral later... at this stage, my mother and I have discussed having motorbikes and cars showing up... he was by no means a normal man, so he should have no normal goodbye. He lived for the bikes, so if anyone could bring a bike along we'd greatly appreciate that. I will let you know details later on when I find out myself!

Thanks for all your support, I know that Mum has recieved messages from some of you, and she wishes to pass on her thanks. She will come on here later and say a few words...

RIP Daddy... I love you so much and will hold you in my heart forever. <3 You will be greatly missed, and enjoy that last ride up to the sky... Love you...





Funeral Update / Information

When: Monday 7th June
Start: 1.30pm (1330)
Where: Napier War Memorial on Marine Parade (He was certainly not an everyday man, so he's not having an everyday funeral) :)

Most importantly: Mum and I have decided that we want as many bikes there as possible. There is room to leave bikes just outside the venue and it would be the best goodbye I could ever imagine giving him. So if you can bring a bike, please do! If you want more information, don't hesitate to send me a message.

Hope you can make it! Everyone is welcome.

And thank you all for the continued support, it really helps us :) I can see why Dad saw this as his extended family, you really are!!!

Laava
28th June 2008, 12:58
Geez that's terrible! I never met the man but still he extended his hospitality to us. Very sorry for your loss. Al & Jo.

SDU
28th June 2008, 13:05
Thank you for sharing with us

My condolences to you & your Mum & family & friends.

I am thankful that I got to meet him once on the ride for life, he was looking out for others at the time-great guy!

RIP Scott, enjoy the endless ride in the sky

Jantar
28th June 2008, 13:15
Thankyou for posting this GurlRacer. Your dad impressed me when we met in February last year. I shall remember his enthusiasm well.

RIP Scott.

Nasty
28th June 2008, 13:17
Lani.. our thoughts are with you and Carrisa at this time, I know it is hard .. especially being so far away ...

RIP Scott you are an inspiration and extremely special person.

ital916
28th June 2008, 13:18
Never met you matey but rest in peace. This is saddening news, condolences to friends and family.

MD
28th June 2008, 13:18
So sorry to hear of your loss. That was a heartbreaking post.

I only saw the news flash a few minutes ago on stuff.

RIP Zukin.

Disco Dan
28th June 2008, 13:23
RIP Zukin

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1621524#post1621524

Mort
28th June 2008, 13:26
I'm so sorry to read that... My sincere condolences to you and your family and friends

cooneyr
28th June 2008, 13:29
My wife and I had the pleasure of meeting Scott when he did the Dusty Butt. We were both left with the feeling that Scott was a really nice guy who enjoyed life to the full.

Our sincerest condolences to you and your family GR.

R.I.P. Zukin

Ryan

Tony.OK
28th June 2008, 13:35
RIP Scott..........heartfelt condolences go out to all family and friends.

beyond
28th June 2008, 13:43
I am very sorry to hear this and offer my heartfelt condolences.
I know what it feels like to be so far away when a loved one "moves on"
Words are totally insufficient at these times.

What more can I say.......................

BASS-TREBLE
28th June 2008, 13:44
News like this is never good.

I pass on my sincere condolences to you, family and friends

R.I.P.

skidMark
28th June 2008, 13:46
I can't believe what i have just read, i had never met him as such but online chats, the odd PM etc.

RIP mate.

If you need any support, you know how to get hold of me.

I would say more, but am just lost for words.

robertydog
28th June 2008, 13:55
I met Scott on my first ever KB ride. That meeting has always stuck. Due to that smile and that way he would just go up to you and introduce him self. Will always remember you. As will all the HB crew.

RIP Zukin

bikerboy011
28th June 2008, 14:00
Rest in peace mate :( condolences to friends and family.

Owl
28th June 2008, 14:06
Please accept my sincere condolences to family and friends. Thank you for sharing with us GurlRacer.

RIP Zukin

Vagabond
28th June 2008, 14:13
R.I.P. and condolances to all who knew him!

Transalper
28th June 2008, 14:18
This is very sad news.
After a bit of a North Island holiday I first met Scott when we shared a ferry ride south while on the way down to the Dusy Butt ride which we both attended in January.
He certainly seemed like a good guy.
My sincere condolences to his family.

R.I.P. Scott
TA.

Trudes
28th June 2008, 14:21
RIP Zukin/Scott

elle-f
28th June 2008, 14:48
RIP Zukin. This is terrible news.

nudemetalz
28th June 2008, 15:12
Rest in peace, Scott.
May you have that great adventure ride upstairs in heaven.

It's such a shame I never got to meet him face to face but I had many dealings with him with the making of the Hawkes Bay riders clock for MSTRS/Yungatart. He struck me as a very friendly and caring fellah.

You'll be missed by many.

inlinefour
28th June 2008, 15:22
Sorry to hear about this, our thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends.

Matt Bleck
28th June 2008, 15:29
Rip .

Grumpy
28th June 2008, 15:34
Leanne and myself were gutted when we heard this sad news. Have been on a few rides with Scott and you wouldn't meet a nicer bloke.

Our thoughts are with Scotts family and friends.

RIP Zukin.

Marknz
28th June 2008, 15:38
RIP dude... enjoy the rides from here on in.

deanohit
28th June 2008, 15:39
Ah shit, I'm real sorry to hear that.

RIP mate.

fLaThEaD FreD
28th June 2008, 15:42
Heartfelt sympathy to you,your family and friends. We did not know Scott but know your pain very well at this time. He is in good company on the Coromandel with my Bruce(Oldfart) and other loved KB members who have gone before him.....Bronwyn Bennett.

Hitcher
28th June 2008, 15:57
Our thoughts are with Scott's family and friends.

Brett & Jane

yungatart
28th June 2008, 16:29
Squirt and Carissa...no words can adequately say what we feel.
Our love, our thoughts and our prayers are with you both.
Our little corner of KB will not be the same without Zukin.

Ride in peace friend. It has been a pleasure to count you as our mate,
Janet, John and Zac

Meanie
28th June 2008, 16:30
RIP mate.........

Swoop
28th June 2008, 16:31
Rest in Peace Scott.

Terrible news.

86GSXR
28th June 2008, 16:33
RIP Scott. I'm glad I had the privilege of your kindness.

fergie
28th June 2008, 16:53
terrible news about an awesome guy.will be sorely missed,ride on Scott.

tri boy
28th June 2008, 17:07
Terrible, terrible news, RIP Scotty.
Sincerest condolences to the family.
We have lost a great friend and human being,
Sad sad day.


Brent.

hXc
28th June 2008, 17:09
RIP buddy.

I still have no idea what to say. It's just not fair that you were taken from us. You were like a 2nd dad to me. To all of Lani's friends I believe. You were always good for a laugh, for advice, or just to yarn eh. Generally, the term would be good cunt...but I'd say you're the goodest cunt.

To Lani. Words can't explain anything. But I'm here for you ok, for anything. In the short time we have before I leave...you can count on me to be there if you need me to. I don't know what it must feel like, and at times, I probably won't even be able to say anything...but if it's for a hug, for a chat, or just to hang out eh, to get away from it. You're an awesome mate, and it's horrible for you to have to go through this.

To Nana. You're one strong lady. And we're all here for you too. All of Lani's friends, all us HB KBers. You and Gaybin were always welcoming of us into your home, no matter what time it was or for whatever reason. It was cool to just pop round after school some days and have a coffee and a sit down. We always had a really good time together. You're not just Lani's parents, or Nana and Gaybin...you're pretty much our own parents too.

Gaybin, you died doing something you loved, riding your Beemer. I'm sorry for all the shit I gave you 'bout that thing...it really isn't a bad bike though. I keep replaying our day trip to Welly and back in my head, and I still can't come to grips with the fact that we're not going to have anymore trips together. But you'll always be in my mind. You'll always be here with us. Your cheeky grin, your smart-mouthed comments...everything.

I can only say it was a pleasure to have known you, and even more so a pleasure to be able to call you a bloody good friend. Ride on, and don't forget your can of harden the fuck up eh?

blacksheep
28th June 2008, 17:36
why is it all the good buggers go first:(,rip matey and sincerest condolences to family and friends:weep:

chanceyy
28th June 2008, 17:38
My heartfelt condolences to Carrissa & lani (even though I have never had the priviledge of meeting you both yet) I had meet Scott several times & he is one of those genuinely great guys

RIP Scott may your spirit be forever riding on adventure after adventure ....

NZsarge
28th June 2008, 17:45
Don't really know what to say but Rest in Peace mate.
Sincerest condolences to Family and friends.

McDuck
28th June 2008, 17:55
I dont know what to say. RIP man, see you later on the best road ever.

JATZ
28th June 2008, 17:58
Met him on the Dusty Butt seemed like a really nice friendly sort of guy.
Condolances from the JATZ family
:bye:R.I.P Zukin hope you ride all the gravel up there on your perfect bike.

Miss Jatz.

Ocean1
28th June 2008, 17:59
One thing only does my memory supply about Scott.

He was inordinately proud of his daughter.

Later dude...

martybabe
28th June 2008, 18:20
It's my misfortune that I never met your Dad but I can tell you, as a dad, he would be mighty proud of you for posting this, it can't have been easy.

Your lovely tribute has reduced me to tears. Bless you sweetheart and godspeed Zukin.

MyGSXF
28th June 2008, 18:42
OMG.. I am absolutely shocked & stunned at reading this.... had the priviledge of meeting Zukin & his family on their epic trip round New Zealand last year & again at the Dusty Butt gathering bbq a few months ago. An awesome, genuine, damn good fella.. Carissa & lani.. I am sooo very sorry for your loss.. :bye:

Ride on Scott.. ride on!!! :scooter:

are we allowed to put any photos up on this thread??

edit: Thanks for the pm.... here's a couple of pics...

Jen

marks
28th June 2008, 18:48
Scott was the first KiwiBiker I met - He went out of his way make me feel welcome which is great when you don't know anyone on a ride. I am really saddened by this terrible news.

my condolences to his family

Mark

deanohit
28th June 2008, 19:03
Just seen on Stuff, pretty heart wrenching:bye::
Edit: Forgot to mention it's the story down the bottom:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4600736a10.html

Aslan
28th June 2008, 19:08
To Scott's family - sincere condolences - Scott was a truly nice guy - passionate about his adventure riding and concerned for others - enjoyed several great rides with Scott - Whangamomona, Makiro Track and Tararua District (last one together earlier this year) - what can we say "..... to cite an Irish blessing:
“May the road rise up to meet you, may the wind be ever at your back. May the sun shine warm upon your face and the rain fall softly on your fields. And until we meet again, May God hold you in the hollow of his hand.”
....Aslan aka Stephen O

skidMark
28th June 2008, 19:16
To those that read the story it is not the truck one...scroll down...

(Speculation removed by moderator)...it doesnt matter how it happened i'm just lost for words.:weep:

Maffoo
28th June 2008, 19:41
I only met him once
he stepped up & helped me out when i needed a lift from Napier to palmy to collect a car i had bought
he took me down on his bike & I never once felt unsafe as his pillion
he was a careful rider and a really nice guy

RIP Scott, it was a pleasure to meet you, & I wish i could have met you at least once more

98tls
28th June 2008, 19:44
RIP fellow rider.

jezzaNZ
28th June 2008, 19:59
Rest in peace Zukin. My heart felt condolences to his family.

NordieBoy
28th June 2008, 20:01
Bugger :(

Kokopelli
28th June 2008, 20:22
My condolences to Scott's family. We have never met in person, but he was a valued member of the BMWOR forum. He will be missed by all of us.

Alex

TOTO
28th June 2008, 20:25
RIP Scott :bye:

hXc
28th June 2008, 20:26
Just wanted to share a wee story 'bout how me and Gaybin happened to meet...

I was at a party at their house (friends with Lani), (should I mention that I hadn't told my parents of this party and shouldn't have been there?) and walked past the computer to see a rather familiar screen in front of me. Not clicking straight away at what it was, I carried on about my business, until I walked past it again, to see Gaybin (then, Mr McIsaac) looking at Kiwibiker. Exclaimed, I asked, "What are you doing on KB?" The reaply..."How do you know about KB?" Turns out that he had just said to my mother earlier that he would join in on the midweek ride that next week, and that we had had a couple of exchanges on KB beforehand.

Just a funny story to illustrate how we met in real life and how we came to be good friends through KB too. Thanks for the memories mate, always cherished.

GurlRacer
28th June 2008, 20:32
Just wanted to share a wee story 'bout how me and Gaybin happened to meet...

I was at a party at their house (friends with Lani), (should I mention that I hadn't told my parents of this party and shouldn't have been there?) and walked past the computer to see a rather familiar screen in front of me. Not clicking straight away at what it was, I carried on about my business, until I walked past it again, to see Gaybin (then, Mr McIsaac) looking at Kiwibiker. Exclaimed, I asked, "What are you doing on KB?" The reaply..."How do you know about KB?" Turns out that he had just said to my mother earlier that he would join in on the midweek ride that next week, and that we had had a couple of exchanges on KB beforehand.

Just a funny story to illustrate how we met in real life and how we came to be good friends through KB too. Thanks for the memories mate, always cherished.

And I remember you telling him "Please don't tell my Mum, I'd get in so much s*!t" ... he never did. He was never one to get us youngin's in trouble :yes: (And Zac, I fly in Monday night)

Thanks for your thoughts everyone, I really appreciate it and my Mum will too. He was so excited about going on this ride, he could hardly wait to get going! Last thing he said to me was "Next time I talk to you, will be at the airport, can't wait to see you Nani. Love you" He got to see me sooner than that, so have fun on that last final ride Dad, I'm thinking of you lots.

MaxB
28th June 2008, 20:50
Zukin - RIP mate.

GR - sounds like you and your family had a Dad you could be proud of.

sels1
28th June 2008, 20:52
Shocked and sadden by this news.
First met Scott at the Cold Kiwi, and rode a wee way with him and Clarissa on the Ride for Life. Lani, remember being my pillion over the Paekak Hill?
They say only the good go young - and Scott was one of the good ones.
My heartfelt condolences to to you both.

Selwyn

hXc
28th June 2008, 20:54
And I remember you telling him "Please don't tell my Mum, I'd get in so much s*!t" ... he never did. He was never one to get us youngin's in trouble :yes: (And Zac, I fly in Monday night)

Thanks for your thoughts everyone, I really appreciate it and my Mum will too. He was so excited about going on this ride, he could hardly wait to get going! Last thing he said to me was "Next time I talk to you, will be at the airport, can't wait to see you Nani. Love you" He got to see me sooner than that, so have fun on that last final ride Dad, I'm thinking of you lots.
Yeh, he never did but she found out anyway. That was the night with the Kristov Vodka Orange shit...and I blabbed on KB haha!

And Lani, she certainly does. We've all been reading the thread and it's comforting. It's good to read all the good comments from people. It just goes to show how much everybody loves him.

BigG
28th June 2008, 20:56
Bad things happen to good guys all the time that sucks big time, I will miss you Scottie you were truly a real nice guy. My condolanses to your good wife and family.

gijoe1313
28th June 2008, 21:18
..........

xgnr
28th June 2008, 22:03
So sorry to hear of this tragedy. Our thoughts are with you.

Stu

Papa Bear
28th June 2008, 22:20
Condolences to family & friends.. RIP Zukin

skelstar
28th June 2008, 22:26
RIP Zukin. Sorry to hear about this.

MVnut
28th June 2008, 22:31
R.I.P. Zukin, very sad.

Daffyd
28th June 2008, 22:51
R I P Zukin. I never met you, but admired your exploits with your 'Ride for Life.'
Carry on your Ride for Life in the sky.

James Deuce
29th June 2008, 00:20
I spoke to Zukin/Scott more than a few times by PM and in threads on KB, but only met him in the flesh, so to speak, twice.

The first time is a treasured memory, because normally I have to alter my mood chemically to participate in mild civil disobedience.

The first cheesecutter protest ride (there shall be more) arrived at Parliament to find the gates locked, and Parlimentary security trying to look hard arse.

MSTRS introduced me to Zukin. Scott and I had been butting heads about the whole, "deliver unto Parliament the message of the Motorcyclists", with me being more than a little negative about the idea. He stuck his hand out, we shook, and being parked next to the only gate left unlocked outside Parliament, as soon as our eyes met we both silently agreed that quietly parking on the road was a little too meek and promptly rode up the curb, through the gate, lapped the Ballance Statue and parked up.

A couple of chaps with necks far thicker than the measured diameter of their cranium tried it on and Scott managed to settle them down and let the few of us that rode our bikes up there move them back out to the street with dignity, but the point had been well made.

You can't have a motorcyclist's protest without a motorcycle in view, particularly at a place that we are all supposed to be a part of, to, in some small part, claim ownership.

A courageous man, given to courageous undertakings. It is a desperate shame that he came a cropper on a bike.

tri boy
29th June 2008, 01:14
Scott posted a poem that he wrote titled:
"Oh to be on an adventure ride" in the adv forum. I'm not thinking too straight at the moment, (the loss of a friend does that to me). Could someone please link it to this thread.
I think it speaks volumes about his passion and love of life/freedom, and riding.
Thank you.

Donor
29th June 2008, 01:40
Scott posted a poem that he wrote titled:
"Oh to be on an adventure ride" in the adv forum. I'm not thinking too straight at the moment, (the loss of a friend does that to me). Could someone please link it to this thread.
I think it speaks volumes about his passion and love of life/freedom, and riding.
Thank you.

Here ya go mate...

Oh to be on an adventure ride - Zukin (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=734844&postcount=1)



MY ADVENTURE

I'm back at home now where all is serene
The skies are clear and blue and the hills are shiny green

Is it really true, did it happen last week
An adventure on my XR, and new places did I seek

It’s a memory now and a good one at that
Mind full of laughter, scenery and no going back

A motorbike adventure is a must for you to do
As long as I am part of the crew

Without an agenda, and places to visit
I rode over gravel and rocks and hoped not to ditch it

I watched and I waited to lose my way
Among the stones and grit, and the layers of clay

No matter what it was, I tried to ride the XR in an expert way
And away I went again to enjoy the rest of the day

But clever was I for I watched where I went
And not once did I stray where danger was hell bent

It’s a good job that adventure, you never keep under your cap
For the locals surely helped me get to know, that area on the map

I loved the hills and beaches, the trees and those rivers too
I loved the way every corner seemed to hold a brand new view

The planning was careful, quite cunning and so clever
For the way I blended with others will stay with me forever

Yes I’m home again now and loving that as well
So all that remains are some extra lines to tell

Adventure riders are a master at the things that they do
So remember to include me in any trips that are new

Scott

cowpoos
29th June 2008, 08:10
Oh ummm...sad news indeed. Met scott on a few occasions...wat a good bugger!! and I'm sure he was more than that to alot of people!!

RIP...

alanzs
29th June 2008, 08:38
My deepest condolences to you and your family... "Free at last, free at last..."

tri boy
29th June 2008, 08:57
In motorcycling there are many things that I can control.
My mindset. My attitude towards others. The direction I choose to travel.
But what I can not control is the passing of friends and loved ones.
Because of this, I take this moment to remember them.
To the fallen.
RIP

Street Gerbil
29th June 2008, 09:43
Rip Zukin. I wish I knew him better...
My condolences to friends and family.
Folks, be careful out there!!!

magicfairy
29th June 2008, 09:45
Although I only knew Scott a short time, he was the sort of person you felt you'd known for ages. So outgoing, so full of life and adventure. You didn't have to work at getting to know him, after 10 minutes of first meeting Scott he managed to make you feel like you were old friends.

There are no words to say how sad this is, he will be missed by so many, none more so than Carissa and Lani. My heart goes out to you, I am so so sorry.

Jim (my partner) and Kyle (Busajim and ZeRax) who were privileged to be on this last adventure with Scott made it back to Wellington last night, after first passing through Napier to see the family. They are understandably incredibly sad, shocked and still trying to come to terms with what has happened.
No doubt when the time is right they will have words to post, but now is the time for remembering what a great guy Scott was and what a huge amount of fun he brought into so many lives. I always felt Jim was in good hands when he was "adventuring" with Scott. I trusted him like a brother.
Thank you Zukin.. you will not be forgotten.

Toaster
29th June 2008, 09:53
Such a tragic loss and very very sad news. Condolences to the family, may your hearts be full of happy memories.

_Gina_
29th June 2008, 09:55
{A motorbike adventure is a must for you to do
As long as I am part of the crew
Without an agenda, and places to visit}

What beautiful words that Scott wrote, the ones above resound with me and I would guess all riders.

Kia kaha Lani & Carissa, know that you are in our thoughts and that Scott loved you.
RIP Scott
Gina

Colapop
29th June 2008, 09:59
Ride well forever Scott. RIP

Qkkid
29th June 2008, 10:10
You will be missed Scotty
Such a loss for Adventure riding community,you shared a world of info with us on Kiwibiker, such a experienced/knowledgeable guy.
Our condolences to the family we are sorry to hear. Brings a tear to the eye hearing this.
Steve and Dawn(Qkchk)

young1
29th June 2008, 10:39
Gurlracer, I met your dad twice last year on the Whangamomona ride and the MMMMM ride. I hope you don't mind but I have attached a photo that I took of him on the MMMMM ride. That pictures sums him up for me, the big wave, and the smile under his helmet. What it doesn't show is that he was more that happy riding tail end charlie that day (and seemed to always end up riding behind me!)

As someone earlier said, why does this sort of thing happen to the nice guys?

What more can I say, I am lost for words.

Gurlracer my thoughts are with you and your family at this very sad time.

Scott RIP

Michael

HTFU
29th June 2008, 10:51
It's my misfortune that I never met your Dad but I can tell you, as a dad, he would be mighty proud of you for posting this, it can't have been easy.

Your lovely tribute has reduced me to tears. Bless you sweetheart and godspeed Zukin.


+1

and to the rest of his family and friends.

davereid
29th June 2008, 11:32
Maria and I were both so shocked to read of this.

We only met Scott once, at the scooter shop when he called in during the ride for life, but he (indeed the entire family) made a big impression on us.

Our sincere condolances to the family, and extended family.

warewolf
29th June 2008, 11:35
Very sad news. Our thoughts are with his loved ones.

Ride In Peace.

Grub
29th June 2008, 13:31
It's taken me two days to be able to post after getting this terrible news on Friday night. Lord, why do the good die young?

Nasty and I met Scott, Carissa, Lani and 7 friends when we opened our home and hearts to the cause they embarked on 4th Feb 2007, a challenge to themselves and others to support cancer research and funding. Instead of the Walk for Life, Scott and Carissa decided to do a Ride for Life (thread) (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=38156) which rode the entire coastline of New Zealand to raise funds and awareness. Take a minute and read the tread and especially the first post. It was a remarkable undertaking and one which typified many of the things that have been said about Scott in this thread.

We all had a great night in Wellington with a BBQ for the Ride for Life riders and about 20 Welly KBer's. Wonderful, unforgettable, fun and treasured KB stuff. I think I have it right that Carissa basicly got on a bike to do this ride with Scott, I'm not sure that she's ridden much since. Lani and Scott's mum came along too as support vehicle - three remarkable young people and a pretty cool mum as well.

The ride finished after 21 days, back in the Hawkes Bay at the 24hr Walk for Life which was taking place that weekend in their home town of Taradale. I think I have the numbers about right, Scott and Carissa raised more than $7,000 and I think in the end was nearly $10,000 (I hope I got those remarkable numbers correct). Their efforts were celebrated publicly at the walk as you can see from this tribute photo montage.

<a href=http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=474&pictureid=4511><img border=0 src=http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/albums/thumbs/4/b7191733af3f3a185fa136bf21fb2057_4511.jpg></img></a>

I last rode with Scott over the Napier-Taupo road to get to the Cheescutter Protest meeting in Taupo. Our group wasn't that quick and he waited after the main HB group had gone, making sure we got there on time. That's just the sort of thing that he did.

Carissa, Lani - gutted. I wish there was more to say to make it better or more palatable - but there isn't and that hurts the most.

Pedrostt500
29th June 2008, 14:29
Condolences to your family, thoughts with you at this time.

sinfull
29th June 2008, 16:10
Our thoughts go out to you, your Mum and friends of Scott !
Remakable man !

Edbear
29th June 2008, 16:12
Very sad news! Thoughts and condolences...

Scorpygirl
29th June 2008, 16:35
RIP Zukin.

Condolences to family and friends, especially the ones on KB. Kia Kaha, Kia Toa, Kia Manawanui.

ajturbo
29th June 2008, 16:58
was terribly saddened when i was told this news....
RIP......

merv
29th June 2008, 17:06
I've just arrived home having been internetless since Wednesday to meet this terrible news. Its bad enough I am dealing with the tragedy of my Bro' getting cancer way before his time and having to quit biking for now, but an instant death like this is a big shock.

I met Zukin through his words on here back in 2006 so we agreed to meet up in Hawkes Bay to do our first ride together along with my Bro', Zukin's Bro' and Mrs merv. We've managed to do a few rides together since which I've always throughly enjoyed and have posted the stories and pics on here as well. He was one of the more competent gravel road riders I have ridden with, which makes this an even bigger surprise to me. He was quick but always in control in my presence.

You'll be sadly missed mate - ride on in whatever place you have now gone to and you will always be in our hearts.

Nasty
29th June 2008, 17:21
After completing the Suzuki Ride for Life - Zukin produced this video. Just a reminder for all of us really of an absolutely special man.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/vbtube_show.php?do=tube&tubeid=41&t=75730

NordieBoy
29th June 2008, 18:00
"Step out of the known and into the unknown"

"Just get out there and live your dream"

"After all there may be no tomorrow"

Fuckin A man.

LittleAngel
29th June 2008, 18:34
My condolences...My thoughts are with his family and friends at this very sad and difficult time..

RIP Zukin!

Macktheknife
29th June 2008, 18:38
Deepest condolensces to the family, he was a real star.

Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)
29th June 2008, 20:10
RIP Zukin - condolences to the family. We never met but had spoken via kb like many others.

Gixxer 4 ever
29th June 2008, 22:32
It has taken two days to sit and write this. I can’t say what I feel. The tears are real.

The ride by your place yesterday said it all. 80 to 90 bikes to give a tribute to you Scott and a message of support to your family.

Thanks for the memories Scott. The rides, the chats, the time spent. I hope we can ride with you one last time.

skidMark
29th June 2008, 22:36
It has taken two days to sit and write this. I can’t say what I feel. The tears are real.

The ride by your place yesterday said it all. 80 to 90 bike to give a tribute to you Scott and a message of support to your family.

Thanks for the memories Scott. The rides, the chats, the time spent. I hope we can ride with you one last time.


That is bloodey awesome mate.

Dammit now my eyes are welling up. :weep:

Mrs Busa Pete
30th June 2008, 07:01
I like others have had a few days to have this sink in. Scott you will be sadly missed by your family and your friends your zest for life was unbounding and an insperation to many.Allthough we only meet a couple of times you and carrissa where just so friendly and the love your family share was awsome.Rest in peace scott Carrisa lani please know our hearts go out to you and if there is any thing we can do to help please let us know.:grouphug:


All that and he is a ford lover (Go the mighty Holden)

slickaz
30th June 2008, 07:44
Never met you Zukin, but Rest Easy...and hope you show them angels in heaven how much fun gravel is..watch over us myman...RIP.

Everytime one of us moves on i have this come up in my mind...
"Pain Heals, Girls love Scars but Glory lives forever" - The Replacements
and Zukin, from what im seeing here from the KBers that have met you, your glory fits that perfect...

Sincerest Condolences to the family.

Garry.W
30th June 2008, 08:43
Very sad news. Scott McIsaac, otherwise known here as Zukin, crashed near the top of Coromandel Peninsula. He died from his injuries while the Westpac rescue helicopter was flying him to hospital. Scott was one of the most enthusiastic adventurers you'd ever come across. We've had a few great rides in the past couple of years. I shall miss him. Heart felt condolences to his wife Carissa and the rest of the McIsaac family.

Garry

CB ARGH
30th June 2008, 08:45
All my thoughts go out to you buddy.

STEVE

vifferman
30th June 2008, 09:38
I didn't know Scott/Zukin, but read about his death in The Harold this morning, and was saddened to do so.
Scott, may you rest in peace. From the posts on here, it seems like you were a terrific guy, and it's sad that many of us will now not get to meet you.

My heartfelt condolences to his family and friends.

Lissa
30th June 2008, 09:49
RIP Scott. My sincere condolences to Family and Friends. Very sad sad news.

MSTRS
30th June 2008, 11:14
Yungatart addressed Scott for me, but can you all spare a thought for the guys he was riding with. They saw him safely away in the chopper, only to find out later that he never reached the hospital.
I am sorry that you guys went through that particular kind of heartbreak.

Quasievil
30th June 2008, 11:18
Yungatart addressed Scott for me, but can you all spare a thought for the guys he was riding with. They saw him safely away in the chopper, only to find out later that he never reached the hospital.
I am sorry that you guys went through that particular kind of heartbreak.

I dont know who they where, but can certainly understand their pain.
happy to help in that regard in whatever way I can.

4skins
30th June 2008, 11:58
To Carrisa & Lani, my sincere condolences. I never met Scott in the flesh but we communicated over the net several times and enjoyed his thorough and concise ride reports, complete with GPS tracks. We share a love of the same interests - namely bikes, maps and no-exit roads.

I was looking forward to meeting him next month on Clint's MMMMM ride which he'd been persuaded to attend. Initially he was going to the HB Rally, but changed his mind after a fellow adventurer questioned his priorities ;-)

RIP mate.

John Forsyth from the Capital Coast

007XX
30th June 2008, 12:06
RIP Zukin...

Most sincere condolences to the family.

Al
30th June 2008, 12:18
R.I.P Zukin.....

Condolences to family and friends

Al

Stickchick
30th June 2008, 13:30
Its taken a few days for me to get my head around that fact that Scott is no longer with us. He and everyone else welcomed me to the bay when I needed to escape and took me under their wings. I will always have fond memories of the encouraging words that Scott always had for me when I first learnt to ride. Also the stories of his adventures that he had. But most of all I will always remember that he always had a smile on his face and was there for anyone in need. He had a zest for life and it was blantantly obvious. He made everyone around him, comfortable and he welcomed all strangers.

Carissa and Lani. My heartfelt condolences to you both. He was a great friend and also a great family man. Will be very much missed and as Gixxer 4 ever says "I hope we can ride with you one last time"

To all the Hawkes Bay crowd....a huge hug from me and see you shortly.

Balrog
30th June 2008, 13:41
I'm finding it hard to find the words to put down.

Scott was one of those rare people who I gelled with almost from the first
moment that I met him. No matter what the situation we ended up in, we were
usually laughing our heads off about it. ( which is quite hard to do when you're
down the bottom of a bank, wondering how you're going to get back up again )

I loved every adventure ride we went on together. They always turned into a hoon
session, with me trying hard to keep up with Scott's uncanny ability to get his
bike sideways round a gravel corner and more often than not, watching him disappear
down the road while I planned which tree to plow into.

Adventure riding is a tricky sport, with the likely hood of coming off quite high.
You always want good mates you can trust to be around you, knowing that they will
be there for you if you stuff up. I always felt completely relaxed when Scott was around
I knew that what ever situation came up, he'd be there with a staunch positive attitude
and a wicked sense of humor. You didn't care what happened, you just got on with the adventure.
People like that are few and far between and leave huge gaps in our lives when they are
no longer with us.

Carissa & Lani, I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm aching inside and I just can't imagine what
it must be like for you. Its a small comfort to know that all of us were having a great time,
doing what we love to do and enjoying the experience and camaraderie.

Ride on Scott, you are going to be sorely missed.

Just a few pics of the trip, I hope its appropriate.

magicfairy
30th June 2008, 14:43
And thank you Carissa, and the rest of the family, for the way you welcomed Jim and Kyle into your home and showed them such love and comfort on Saturday.
That you were so concerned that they got home safely, and insisted that they let you know the minute they arrived was truly amazing, given the pain you are going through. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for sending them safely on their way and for sharing Scott with us on all those wonderful adventures.

RnB Fan
30th June 2008, 14:52
Condolences to the family and friends. RIP.

justsomeguy
30th June 2008, 14:59
....feel a bit physically sick hearing this.

Only knew him online and he seemed like such a top bloke.

Not again......KB'er no.6 for me...:bye:

You all hang tough until you get used to the grief.

Peace.

JSG

pampa
30th June 2008, 15:17
Not long ago I posted on the Hub ride that it was the kind of adventure I'd like to go ... it didn't happen ... now I see that I've missed an opportunity to know a very good person. My condolences to the family.

Pampa AKA Pablo

ynot slow
30th June 2008, 15:59
So bloody sad to read.

He would be extremely proud of you for putting this up and being brave about it,god knows how you did.

My first KB ride was doing the Opunake to Hawera leg of the ride 4 life and meeting both you,Scott and Charissa and the support crew,enjoying the break for coffee,causing the ride to be delayed due to coffee break.

The use of a room after a mission concert,before we had met sums both your parents excellent virtues,to all KBers.

From Janine and myself thoughts are with you all what can we say,sorry is a prick of a word,but is about all I can manage.

SPman
30th June 2008, 16:13
Never met him


......never will

My condolences to all - sounded like a top bloke.

XP@
30th June 2008, 16:32
Only met you briefly, nevertheless memorably.

Very sad to see this happen to one with so much life.

My most sincere condolences to all his family. I do not have sufficient words to ease your pain.

My heart also goes out to those who were riding with him, take care on the way back home.

WelshWizard
30th June 2008, 19:12
I was in the Hospital waiting to be admited when I read in the Herald about a biker down, who had been collecting corperate sponcership for the Westpac Heli and CC awareness ride,
What can you say no words really help at a time like this, but from what I have read in the paper and on KB he was a hell of a guy and family man.

So my thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends,

R.I.P. Scott

Padmei
30th June 2008, 22:09
Feel really sad.
You touched the lives of many people...

Nordy
30th June 2008, 22:39
Gutted I never got to meet him. Was a top guy on gps.org.nz and also here.

RIP Scott.

motorbyclist
30th June 2008, 23:55
RIP

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10519078

Dave-
1st July 2008, 18:31
tragic to read.

RIP

Mrs Busa Pete
1st July 2008, 20:59
Hi everyone,


Funeral Update / Information

When: Monday 7th June
Start: 1.30pm (1330)
Where: Napier War Memorial on Marine Parade (He was certainly not an everyday man, so he's not having an everyday funeral) :)

Most importantly: Mum and I have decided that we want as many bikes there as possible. There is room to leave bikes just outside the venue and it would be the best goodbye I could ever imagine giving him. So if you can bring a bike, please do! If you want more information, don't hesitate to send me a message.

Hope you can make it! Everyone is welcome.


And thank you all for the continued support, it really helps us :) I can see why Dad saw this as his extended family, you really are!!!


Thanks for the update lani pete and myself will be there. Thanks for allowing us to say our farewells. :grouphug:

GurlRacer
1st July 2008, 21:07
Funeral information added to first post :)

carver
1st July 2008, 21:09
bugger, pity i never met him anywhere but on here.

RIP dude

merv
1st July 2008, 21:14
Lani I loved the rides I did with your dad but sorry I will be out of the country on Monday 7th July and unfortunately will have to miss his funeral. Hopefully I can get my brother (who sadly is now sick with cancer, lives in Napier but probably won't be able to make it by bike) to attend and represent our family.

RIP Scott, you'll really be missed in the Adventuring community.

My thoughts are with you Carissa and all the wider family group.

My last ride with Scott was the Waitangi Day ride this year over North Range Road where I captured his thumbs up spirit with this photo shot.

Aslan
1st July 2008, 21:41
Hi Lani - your Dad organised a great ride in the Tararua District - In the following photos, here he is 1. 'kickin back' after a good day riding on the Saturday and 2. at the front in a group photo of the team he led through the Tararua District for a great weekend of camaraderie and fun.

Sincere condolences - Stephen O aka Aslan

tri boy
1st July 2008, 22:43
Kanny will be in CHCH, but I'll definitely be attending.:bye:

Nasty
2nd July 2008, 05:04
Grub and I will be heading up from Wellington. Anyone who wants to join us for the ride we will travel on Sunday and back on Tuesday. PM me.

MSTRS
2nd July 2008, 09:32
There is some room at ours for those that need it. We have another family emergency going on at the mo, so will do our best to keep up with events...

kanny
2nd July 2008, 10:34
So shocked and sadden by news.My heartfelt condolences to Carrissa,Lani and family.Though i did not know Scott for long.What a privilege to have met him and great guy he was.Will be in CH.CH Monday. But i shell light a candle and be their in spirit.Such a sad loss :(

RIP Scott

Karen

zeRax
2nd July 2008, 10:56
I'm so sorry for your loss.

We were having such a great ride, that's the way it is when riding with Scott, I was so excited when he asked what i was doing for a whole week!!!

I'm going to miss his stories of his past exploits and adventures, his incredible personality and his warm company.

He was the benchmark of comradery, he always put his feet in first to make you feel as comfortable as you could in any situation and it was natural to him to look after ya and feel more than welcome.
Instantly you felt like you had known each other for years.

A true leader he was.

I think I will be doing even more rides and getting more involved.
The desire of seeing new things and having adventures is greater than ever.

Knowing that's how he would want it, holding onto memories of him with every new sight and adventure, feeling in a way that he is there too, he should be there..

He will be sorely missed by more than we know, and I cant even imagine how hard it is for his family.

A sad sad tragedy which to me still seems, simply unbelievable.

Rest, ride, in peace Scott..

slimjim
2nd July 2008, 11:08
know you're riding with your family........... heavy heart... Pain's going now....thought's flowing with feeling's...... R.I.P Scott

sunhuntin
2nd July 2008, 12:18
you are all my thoughts.

RIP, zukin.

Gixxer 4 ever
2nd July 2008, 15:09
There is some room at ours for those that need it. We have another family emergency going on at the mo, so will do our best to keep up with events...

As above you will note MSTRS and Tart have had to take time out to help a family member that needs them.

So Wasp27 and I are going to organise the bikes and K/B part of Scotts funeral. This includes the time leading up to, During and after the funeral. Also we are happy to arrange accommodation for ppl here if need be. So please PM with answers to the following,

(1) Are you coming to the Funeral? We won’t as many bikes as we can get please. Please PM number of bikes. Ie one bike 2 people/ one bike one person.
(2) Do you need accommodation? With a K/Ber.
(3) What day do you need the accommodation for? If Hotel/ Motel what price range? Probably best you arrange this yourself but we can help organise.



I will add to this list as I need to. We will post info on what is happening at the funeral as we develope the plan.
We hope to speak to the family today or tomorrow and the council etc. Expect the shell of a plan by Friday night.

Rest in Peace Scott.

MSTRS
2nd July 2008, 15:12
Thanks Steve. I couldn't risk dropping the ball on something soooo important.

Gixxer 4 ever
2nd July 2008, 15:26
We gathered here and there and everywhere
We set a place over there
We would arrive and sit and wait
Here came Scotty from over there and late
He would park and chat but we were ready to rap
Off we went with Scotty in close
Free of the fifty K zones in third gear
Fourth and fifth and Scotty would start to drop to the rear
Fifth and sixth and Scott would disappear. Way back there in the rear.
Sixth and he wasn’t there.
Over Hills up valleys round tops we would blast, here and there.
The shingle roads would appear. That was the end of the road for us. It went way up there.
We didn’t know what was way up there.
Scotty would appear from way back there.
He would shoot right past us, sitting there, and disappear way up there.
We would sit and wait, and he would reappear.
He sat and talked about what was way up there.
On went the leathers and we would head for home, Way back down there.
First and second gear Scotty was there.
Third and fourth and he was still there.
Fifth and sixth and he would drop way back there.
I would park and wait to make sure he would reappear from way back there.
Drop in behind him and stay there.
Home for Tea and we would spread out here and there.
Thanks for the here and there Scotty and telling us about what is way up there.
We are still afraid of the way up there.
You won’t be way back there Scotty, You are with us everywhere.

magicfairy
2nd July 2008, 16:52
Just found this looking through some photos. Taken by BusaJim on the Whangamomona ride - think it was June last year. Really catches that cheeky smile.

GurlRacer
2nd July 2008, 22:45
Beautiful words Gizza... really appreciate everything aye!! :) I read the poem out to the whole family and it was just smiles all round.

Also, my friend is having some stickers made which will read "RIP Gaybin" (That is his nickname that everyone knew him by, but it will have a Mitsi logo either side, but if you would like one, just let me know by phone or PM. It'll cost only $10.

Cheers everyone... really appreciate all the good photos and nice words!!

ManDownUnder
3rd July 2008, 17:11
"RIP Gaybin" (That is his nickname that everyone knew him by, but it will have a Mitsi logo either side, but if you would like one, just let me know by phone or PM. It'll cost only $10.


GR - I never knew the man so I think it would be inappropriate for my to buy one.

That said - he was obviously one of the family and I'll happily do what I can for the family from afar, be it in cash or kind.

PM sent.

Gixxer 4 ever
3rd July 2008, 18:09
From Wasp27. His computer is down at the moment. Posted by Gixxer 4 ever

All Riders/Pillions are invited to join us in Scotts Funeral Procession.
The Group will meet at the WMCC (War Memorial Conference Centre) Marine Parade, Napier at 11.30 am sharp. A short ‘Pre-Ride Briefing’ by Steve (Gixxer 4 ever) will give riders details of the Procession and also the designated Bike Parking arrangements at the Venue. The Ride will commence at 11.45am travelling through the City and arrive at Scott’s home at approx 12.00 noon.
The six Pall Bearers will carry the casket from the house to the Hearse.
At approx 12.30pm the Procession with the 6 Pall Bearers bikes leading the Hearse and the remaining bikes following the Hearse in staggered group formation will return to the WMCC along the same route.
Upon arrival at the venue all bikes will park up in the areas as detailed at the pre-ride briefing.

Scott’s Funeral Service will start at 1.30pm

Carissa and Lani have arranged for Felt Tip Pens to be provided so those that wish can sign the Casket after the service.
All attendee Riders/Pillions are asked to place your Black Arm Bands on the Casket at the conclusion of the service.

See edit in post 157 for this part of the ride. It has changed
At 3.15pm Riders/pillions to Gear up ready to escort hearse from WMCC along the Marine Parade to the Ellison street boundary where the Group will turn right into Ellison Street and the Hearse will carry on.3.30pm- Hearse will leave on trip to Crematorium in Hastings
Anyone wishing to pay their respects to Scott and family can if they wish
visit their home in Taradale after Thursday Lunch.

Photo Board; Anyone able to provide copies of Photo’s or Movies of Scott are asked to contact Carissa by email- scott.carissa@xtra..co.nz or Lani on 027 6028798. Alternately items can be posted directly to Carissa at 16 Upham Cres, Taradale. Napier. These will be displayed at the service. Any arrangements for returns can be discussed with them.

Those seeking accommodation can contact;
Kennedy Park Resort on 06 843 9126 or 0800 457 275
www.kennedypark.co.nz

Some beds with K/Bers are available. Pm "Gixxer 4 ever" for info.

Donations; Because of Scotts close association with the following charities any donations should be addressed to The Cancer Society and The Heart Foundation
Note, All Riders and Pillions attending the Funeral are asked to register their names, contact phone (cell) numbers by PM to Gixxer 4 ever (Steve & Mary)

Note; Further details will be published here as arrangements are finalised

hXc
3rd July 2008, 20:30
Cheers Steve, keep up the good work.
Have you sorted the 6th pall bearer yet?

Wasp27
3rd July 2008, 20:31
We gathered here and there and everywhere
We set a place over there
We would arrive and sit and wait
Here came Scotty from over there and late
He would park and chat but we were ready to rap
Off we went with Scotty in close
Free of the fifty K zones in third gear
Fourth and fifth and Scotty would start to drop to the rear
Fifth and sixth and Scott would disappear. Way back there in the rear.
Sixth and he wasn’t there.
Over Hills up valleys round tops we would blast, here and there.
The shingle roads would appear. That was the end of the road for us. It went way up there.
We didn’t know what was way up there.
Scotty would appear from way back there.
He would shoot right past us, sitting there, and disappear way up there.
We would sit and wait, and he would reappear.
He sat and talked about what was way up there.
On went the leathers and we would head for home, Way back down there.
First and second gear Scotty was there.
Third and fourth and he was still there.
Fifth and sixth and he would drop way back there.
I would park and wait to make sure he would reappear from way back there.
Drop in behind him and stay there.
Home for Tea and we would spread out here and there.
Thanks for the here and there Scotty and telling us about what is way up there.
We are still afraid of the way up there.
You won’t be way back there Scotty, You are with us everywhere.

I know where that came from buddy........straight from the heart.
For me personally.....he ain't gone.........he just hasn't come back yet. All our rides will be +1 now......we can never ride alone.....he'll still be there......just round the next corner. But we wont wait.....he's riding free now.....forever free

_Shrek_
3rd July 2008, 20:50
R.I.P Scott- our thoughts & condolences to family & friends

K & K

Gixxer 4 ever
3rd July 2008, 22:04
Cheers Steve, keep up the good work.
Have you sorted the 6th pall bearer yet?

Yep all sorted.
Just finished the flag. Will get it to W tomorrow and he will get it to MSTRS. If he is still here. Cheers

Wasp27
4th July 2008, 06:39
Yep all sorted.
Just finished the flag. Will get it to W tomorrow and he will get it to MSTRS. If he is still here. Cheers

Thanks Moo...:msn-wink:

Wasp27
4th July 2008, 06:43
Anybody out there got a spare prayer......Emma (Janets daughter) could sure do with it.

Nordy
4th July 2008, 07:47
all of mine are heading her way :(

MSTRS
4th July 2008, 08:42
On a brighter note, Emma has come through the op well and things are improving for her by the hour.
I should be all set to do the flag this arvo.

Wasp27
4th July 2008, 08:49
On a brighter note, Emma has come through the op well and things are improving for her by the hour.
I should be all set to do the flag this arvo.

Well thats the best news we've had in a while.....the power of prayer....eh. I hope our girl's (Janet) bearing up. I'll see you after lunch John....thanks heaps for all you've done...especially under such trying circumstances. Your what KBs all about:yes:

Stickchick
4th July 2008, 09:02
thanks heaps for all you've done...especially under such trying circumstances. Your what KBs all about:yes:

I second that. :love:

Mrs Busa Pete
4th July 2008, 09:12
Well thats the best news we've had in a while.....the power of prayer....eh. I hope our girl's (Janet) bearing up. I'll see you after lunch John....thanks heaps for all you've done...especially under such trying circumstances. Your what KBs all about:yes:


I second that. :love:




Us 3 & 4.............

MSTRS
4th July 2008, 09:27
Your what KBs all about:yes:

Surely not. :sweatdrop
I work on the basis of give support when it's needed and hope it's paid forward. I am overwhelmed by the support that is offered back to us, and somehow don't feel deserving of it. No matter, it is hugely appreciated.
Thank you, all.

Gixxer 4 ever
4th July 2008, 10:25
Surely not. :sweatdrop
I work on the basis of give support when it's needed and hope it's paid forward. I am overwhelmed by the support that is offered back to us, and somehow don't feel deserving of it. No matter, it is hugely appreciated.
Thank you, all.

What they said. Well done John and good news. Needed that. Makes our day better.

W has the flag.

I just bumped in to Meekey_mouse at the Bp. Whooo whoooo she makes the :sunny: shine brighter. What a happy person. So that’s two happy things today.

You are still on our minds Scott and we are working towards the next :scooter: with you mate.

Wasp27
4th July 2008, 16:07
Just picked the flag up from John's......it's awesome, thanks mate.

GurlRacer
4th July 2008, 18:00
Yeah, I have to 10th everything you guys have said because the support really is overwhelming. I don't think I could have made it without all you guys here! (Special mention to Steve, John, Warrick, Kyle and Jim!) :)

Meekey_Mouse
4th July 2008, 20:20
Hey every one,

Sorry I haven't seen this thread until now. I'm still rather in shock... I only met Zukin a few times but he seemed like a lovely, kind and caring man :yes: Thoughts and condolences go out to all of his family and friends :hug: :hug: :grouphug:

Zukin, May you rest in peace mate.

I will try and make it to the funeral, if any one needs a place to stay in Taupo or if there is any other way I can help out at all please don't hesitate to send me a PM

Gixxer 4 ever
4th July 2008, 20:46
Further to the ride plan for the funeral. Re post 140 here.

We will lead the Hearse away at 3.30pm (same as original plan) ,but instead of the Hearse carrying on past Ellison St boundary and going to the Crematorium, it will now turn Right into Edwardes Street we will carry on along the Parade and go on our ride. Maybe out to the Puketapu for a beer/dinner. Or we could do a short ride and come back to the Brew Shack for dinner. Then people can disperse from town. It is going to be cold by 5.30. We will post the final plan tomorrow. All the rest of the days plans stand at this time.

Crisis management
5th July 2008, 11:35
Carissa & Lani, I've just returned to the country and finding the news of Scotts death was the last thing I expected.

I have always admired Scott with his love of life and energy thrown into the things he loved and enjoyed, I was looking forward to catching up with him on the Motu ride later this month and the knowledge that I've now missed that opportunity cuts deeply.

I am so sorry for your loss and can only offer my condolences and my thoughts over the next days, a poor substitute for Scotts smile and laugh.

Hang in there, my prayers are with you.

Iain Smith

martybabe
5th July 2008, 14:36
I will not be able to make it on Monday, sadly, but I would like to wish Gurlracer, the family and friends of Zukin and all the wonderful Kbers that only know of Zukin but are going to amazing lengths to be there, all the very best for the Funeral.

I'm sure it will be a wonderful tribute and testament, to a man that has earned so much love and respect during his lifetime.

Your Fathers untimely passing has touched so many of us. Bless you all .

Farewell Scott. Do us all proud Kbers, give him a send off to match his life ( one to remember).

For what it's worth, on this occasion ,I shall take R.I.P. to mean Ride In Peace. R.I.P. Scott

Martin.

oldrider
5th July 2008, 14:50
Stunned. R.I.P Scott. John.

ynot slow
5th July 2008, 18:17
I will not be able to make it on Monday, sadly, but I would like to wish Gurlracer, the family and friends of Zukin and all the wonderful Kbers that only know of Zukin but are going to amazing lengths to be there, all the very best for the Funeral.

I'm sure it will be a wonderful tribute and testament, to a man that has earned so much love and respect during his lifetime.

Your Fathers untimely passing has touched so many of us. Bless you all .

Farewell Scott. Do us all proud Kbers, give him a send off to match his life ( one to remember).

For what it's worth, on this occasion ,I shall take R.I.P. to mean Ride In Peace. R.I.P. Scott

Martin.

Marty,think that says it all for those of us unable to attend,ditto Tony.

howdamnhard
6th July 2008, 17:16
My heartfelt condolences to you,your family and friends.Sorry can´t be there for the funeral.

sels1
6th July 2008, 20:20
Had hoped to get up for the funeral but due to an unplanned work trip to the South Is for the whole weekend my plans are all stuffed up, I wont make.
My thoughts will be with you all tomorrow.

nudemetalz
6th July 2008, 20:36
I'm also unable to be there for the funeral, however, Nasty & Grub are representing me.
I'll be thinking of you all tomorrow.

Ride free

Meekey_Mouse
6th July 2008, 21:23
I also won't be able to make it to the funeral :( the zip in the arm on my leathers broke and it is far too cold to be riding when the air/water can easily get in.
Will be thinking of you all tomorrow and I hope the weather holds out.

Ride safe guys and gals

young1
7th July 2008, 08:26
I wont be there today, my thoughts will be with you all though

Michael

Wasp27
7th July 2008, 09:55
Our thoughts and prayers go to Carissa,Lani and family...be comforted by those around you.....gain strength from their love.
W & D

yungatart
7th July 2008, 10:11
Our thoughts and prayers go to Carissa,Lani and family...be comforted by those around you.....gain strength from their love.
W & D

Amen to that.
Also our thoughts are with his closest freinds...such a loss for all.

merv
7th July 2008, 10:14
Sorry I'm not there with you. Say goodbye to Scott for Mrs merv and me - our thoughts are with you all, especially his family.

MyGSXF
7th July 2008, 10:29
Carissa & Lani.. Sorry I can't be with you in person today.. but am there heart & soul.. we have a candle burning here in honor of you all

As martybabe said.. Do us all proud Kbers, give him a send off to match his life ( one to remember).

Love & light.. :grouphug: Ride free Scott.. ride free :ride:

Jen

Nordy
7th July 2008, 10:59
give him an awesome send off KBers. Wish I could be there, but my thoughts are with his family and friends.

Meekey_Mouse
7th July 2008, 17:57
Has been a pretty solemn day... Hope it all ran smoothly and that the weather was ok

ducatijim
7th July 2008, 18:40
My sincerest condolances to Scott's family, who I have not met, but who he spoke to me of, and friends. A true loss for the motorcycling community in NZ.

Go in peace my friend.

Jamie

Dooly
7th July 2008, 20:17
A huge funeral today, what a turnout of folk from all aspects of Scott's life.
Good tales from Carissa & Lani.
He sure lived a full packed life.
RIP.

MSTRS
7th July 2008, 21:11
What a humbling experience that was. I'd hazard a guess that there would have been not a dry eye in the place. Scott woulda said "HTFU", but been secretly rather chuffed that so many held him in such regard.
We are richer for having known him.

young1
7th July 2008, 21:35
A huge funeral today, what a turnout of folk from all aspects of Scott's life.
Good tales from Carissa & Lani.
He sure lived a full packed life.
RIP.

Can you give some details please, how many bikes were there, how did it all go etc?

martybabe
7th July 2008, 22:00
Can you give some details please, how many bikes were there, how did it all go etc?

Yes please, It's been on my mind all day, I wish I could have been there. Many Kbers there?

Grub
7th July 2008, 22:12
Can you give some details please, how many bikes were there, how did it all go etc?

Well, I managed to get myself on a building site scaffold to photograph the procession to the service, it took 6 cycles of the traffic lights for the cortege to get through .... an awesome site. I took over 300 frames and Nasty did another 300 but we haven't analysed them yet so these figures are guestimates.

The pall bearers 6 bikes lead the 1934 hearse which was followed by all the bikes (around 20-30 I think) then came Carissa in Scotty's Mitsi Evo and then Lani in the lil black thing (the one with the big-bore exhaust and driven by the chick with the big right boot). Surely it's a Mitsi too, therefore a Mirage. Then followed all the cars and I will count them but as I said, it took 6 cycles of the traffic lights for them all to get through.

The cortege left Scott, Carissa and Lani's, went up Glouchester St, into Kennedy Rd, into Tennyson St and onto Marine Pde to the War Memorial Convention Centre on the foreshore. We'll count the numbers later from the photos but the convention centre was full, the annex was full and there were people in the lobby. That had to be at least a couple of hundred and surely more than that.

This was a celebration of a life that was fuller than most, that lived by the mottos of "no regrets", "go hard", "Step out of the known and into the unknown", "Just get out there and live your dream" ... and ... "After all, there may be no tomorrow".

At the service we learned of all the ways in which Scott made that happen. Scouts, 4WD in his suZUKI(N), car rallying, the Targa, the Evo and of course adventure riding - because for Scott, just plain "motorcycling" wouldn't have been out-there enough. We heard the funny stories, the tributes and the greatest of them all was the vid tribute by Lani on the big screen.

The celebration of Scott's life took almost 3 hours and it seemed like just 30 minutes. The piper, then Scott, lead us into the supper room. The vivd markers were out and the Mitsubishi Red Coffin received a liberal covering of comments, lies, promises and tributes from everyone ... reading some could make a sensitive person like me blush.

The day finished with all of the bikes leading the hearse off for a ride around the harbour while the children let go of 30 or 40 helium filled balloons to float free like Scott's spirit out to sea.

A day, a family, and a guy, I'll not forget for a long time.

NordieBoy
7th July 2008, 22:24
Wow .

young1
7th July 2008, 22:33
Thanks for that, that is really awesome.

martybabe
7th July 2008, 22:34
A day, a family, and a guy, I'll not forget for a long time.

Awsome write up. thanx Grub. Martin.

offrd
7th July 2008, 23:16
I am completely stunned, I just found this terrible news.

I met Scott on my first ever KB ride, We exchanged the odd PM here and there.
I loved reading Scott's ride reports and was so impressed with the suzuki ride for life and was sooo looking foward to talking with him about it, Mum has had the big bad C twice now... I really hoped i would get to do the next ride for life with him.
I had planed to go on the HUB ride and was really looking foward to it, but work went crazy and we just had to keep working...12 days straight... Before i knew it, I get a minute to look on the KB site and ......

I did not know until only a few minutes ago, and i am so sorry, i would have been there today.


A great guy and a real inspiration to so many.

I am so so sorry, my thoughts are with you all.


Duncan

Wasp27
8th July 2008, 06:47
Many Kbers there?

Not sure of the numbers......of actual KiwiBikers,there was lots. But one things for sure.....by the comments made..... that a lot more wished they were. Mere words cannot describe the atmosphere....the love and respect. I'm sure Brett & Kari's pics will do that. Both of us are so proud to belong to such an awesome family. cheers W & D

BigG
8th July 2008, 08:07
Not sure of the numbers......of actual KiwiBikers,there was lots. But one things for sure.....by the comments made..... that a lot more wished they were. Mere words cannot describe the atmosphere....the love and respect. I'm sure Brett & Kari's pics will do that. Both of us are so proud to belong to such an awesome family. cheers W & DYep You are so right W.
I wished I'd got to no Scottie a lot better its not untill some one dies you get to hear how they lived their lives and who their extended Family is. God be with our Mate.

robertydog
8th July 2008, 09:14
Ive never been to funeral quite like it. Felt like i had a stone in my throat for such a long time. Then it would go away with the laughter.
He certainly was a good husband, father and friend to so many people.

Thanks Grub for the great write up. Numbers? I was thinking that while i was sitting in there, and i was truly stunned. My guess is 500-600+
Zukin you were well thought of.

RIP mate

nudemetalz
8th July 2008, 09:52
Awesome stuff, Grub. Thanks for sharing.

Hawkeye
8th July 2008, 11:38
I met Scott, Carrisa and Lani during the Ride for Life trip. I rode up to Levin to meet them on the trip down to Wellington. Even in the short time we had to chat over the BBQ at Scooters Plus, I found Scott to be so passionate about bikes and his family. I joined them at Brett and Kari's for the BBQ that night and offered my rental for the night to their support crew.
I met up with them again as they came back from the South Island and rode most of the way up to Napier.
It is only now that I have realised that I work with Jim who was with him when this tragic accident happened.
Work commitments stopped me attending the funeral yesterday because I so wanted to be there
My sincere condolences go out to Carrisa and Lani.

tri boy
8th July 2008, 15:56
A big thank you goes out to the HB KB crew for helping so many people in so many ways.
I'm home safe n sound, and on the ride home today I was thinking of the huge amount of people that Scott has helped/encouraged/been there for.
If I'm to take one thing out of this past weekend, it is to try to embrace life with a tenth of the energy and passion that Scott had.
I'll try mate, but it's a big ask.:bye:

Special thanks to Gixxer 4 ever and family for making my stay in HB very pleasant, and to wasp27 and crew for putting the work in.
HB rocks!:sunny:

Nasty
8th July 2008, 16:03
Guys .. thanks for the awesome work up there this week which made coming up to Napier easier ... to be able to offer to Lani and Carrisa the gift of our skills and to give them a few of the memories that may have been one day lost.

We have just arrived back in Wellington safely.

Nasty (and Grub)

MSTRS
8th July 2008, 16:17
Glad to hear that all our out-of-towners made it home safely. Thanks for making the effort to be here. It helped all of us who were close to Scott, and in turn I'm sure we helped you guys too.

jrandom
8th July 2008, 16:29
Glad to hear that all our out-of-towners made it home safely.

I didn't. I got another speeding ticket.

Still.

I hereby dedicate that particular twist of the throttle to Scott.

I never met the man in person, but I was proud to have the opportunity to pay my respects at his funeral.

May he rest in peace.

MSTRS
8th July 2008, 16:34
I got another speeding ticket.



Another 'another' one? You a slow learner, boy?

justsomeguy
8th July 2008, 16:37
Regards Scott. As it say's in my sig - sounds like you made the most of it. Well done mate.

magicfairy
8th July 2008, 16:39
BusaJim, myself, ZeRax (Kyle) and Tammy all back in Wellington safely. What a sad but amazing experience it has been.
To have a mother, wife and daughter get up and speak with such love and pride was extremely moving and something I'll never forget. It really reminded me that above all else, Scott loved his family dearly.

Thank you for letting us be part of it.

jrandom
8th July 2008, 16:40
You a slow learner, boy?

It would seem so, yes.

Then again, I didn't expect a second HP car on the plains following the first one (which I'd given a cheery wave as I rode past at entirely legal speeds) a couple of minutes later.

Eternal vigilance would appear to be the price of freedom.

Rosie
8th July 2008, 16:40
A big thank you goes out to the HB KB crew for helping so many people in so many ways.

+1 :first:

We had a chilly trip home, but arrived safe and well.

vifferman
8th July 2008, 16:40
I got another speeding ticket.
You must have the whole set now. :blink:

Rest in Peace, Scott.

Gixxer 4 ever
8th July 2008, 17:44
I have sat down and thought about what to say. I am still at a loss knowing that Scott has gone. However I have enough experience to know it is real. Like most old farts I have been here before but the pain is the same each time. I ask that those of you that know the family keep in touch for a long long time. It is time that makes the pain less, and or change to some degree but it is the loss of friends that drift away that makes the pain linger longer. Take care of the family and love them as much as you can and or did.

Thanks to all the people that made this a very special funeral. Seriously too many to thank. Every one of you should be proud. Some came from a long way to be here and some from close. You are the rock that makes life great. I am tempted to thank people but I realise I will miss people and that’s not fair. Also thanks to the outa towners that shared our space in the last few days. So nice to meet some of you for the first time and to have old friends beside us in this tuff time. You rock you lot.

Enough from me but I would like to say thanks one last time.
Steve and Mary Mooooo
Gixxer 4 ever. No Busa. Yet

ynot slow
8th July 2008, 18:31
I have sat down and thought about what to say. I am still at a loss knowing that Scott has gone. However I have enough experience to know it is real. Like most old farts I have been here before but the pain is the same each time. I ask that those of you that know the family keep in touch for a long long time. It is time that makes the pain less, and or change to some degree but it is the loss of friends that drift away that makes the pain linger longer. Take care of the family and love them as much as you can and or did.

Thanks to all the people that made this a very special funeral. Seriously too many to thank. Every one of you should be proud. Some came from a long way to be here and some from close. You are the rock that makes life great. I am tempted to thank people but I realise I will miss people and that’s not fair. Also thanks to the outa towners that shared our space in the last few days. So nice to meet some of you for the first time and to have old friends beside us in this tuff time. You rock you lot.

Enough from me but I would like to say thanks one last time.
Steve and Mary Mooooo
Gixxer 4 ever. No Busa. Yet

Well done from us who couldn't be there.The days after the final event can seem a blur,but as you have said it is the month or years later people stop thinking of the family.

Rest assured next time in the Bay I will be on the lookout for a meet and greet with the guys and girls who make biking a wonderfull event,if somewhat sad at times like this,and to catch up with Carrissa and Lani,only met for several hours but the way they enjoyed the ride for life was an inspiration.

Grub
8th July 2008, 22:55
Here are 4 photos of Scott's funeral. Kari and I were humbled to be asked to photograph the day for the family and so the images we took are now theirs. They may post them up when and if they wish. However since there is such interest from those who couldn't be there, I've selected these 4 to give everyone an idea of the scale of the day.

The cortege was huge <a href=http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=474&pictureid=4868><img border=0 src=http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/albums/thumbs/4/d53b2542f9033881293ff11afd171246_4868.jpg></img></a>, this is the lead group, pallbearers in front, the hearse, the bikes, Carissa in the Evo, Lani in the Mirage, Scotts mum I think and then the 4WD with his bike on the trailer. The cortege took six sets of these lights to come past me.

The venue had to be huge, it was the Napier War Memorial Convention Centre <a href=http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=474&pictureid=4867><img border=0 src=http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/albums/thumbs/4/95bd23b1252b9dae848a514eae8ccacb_4867.jpg></img></a>. What a stunning place. Serene, calm and beautiful with the whole service overlooking the sea on Napier's Marine Pde.

As far as I can make out there are 360 people in this picture <a href=http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=474&pictureid=4866><img border=0 src=http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/albums/thumbs/4/efd7b7fc3dfc73ad73c71a216b0e46b2_4866.jpg></img></a>. What you can't see is the people sitting in the annex out to the left up by the windows nor those who had to stand in the corridor out to the right of the windows.

After the celebration of his life with us, the vivd markers came out as Scott looked over the sea <a href=http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=474&pictureid=4865><img border=0 src=http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/albums/thumbs/4/5a4acc298a75ed99aa6a37ade8a44e84_4865.jpg></img></a>.

And this is how we remembered him <a href=http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=474&pictureid=4511><img border=0 src=http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/albums/thumbs/4/b7191733af3f3a185fa136bf21fb2057_4511.jpg></img></a> ... just in case you missed it first time around.

Brett

nudemetalz
8th July 2008, 23:05
Damn, that is nice, Brett !!!
Sad seeing the coffin with a helmet on top.

MyGSXF
8th July 2008, 23:29
damn.. more tears.. :weep:

Thanks so much for sharing the pics.. so nice to "see" where my thoughts were for most of yesterday! The pic of Scott's casket with the sea in the background.. is perfect! :yes:

:grouphug:

martybabe
8th July 2008, 23:51
Thanx again Grub. So very very sad.

Mikkel
9th July 2008, 00:10
Normally I would not post in a thread about the passing of someone I did not know personally one way or the other - for a number of reasons.

But still, having read what has been written here I'm left with one very persistant thought: "Scott was a very lucky guy!"

My condolences to the mourners.

MSTRS
9th July 2008, 09:04
Normally I would not post in a thread about the passing of someone I did not know personally one way or the other - for a number of reasons.

But still, having read what has been written here I'm left with one very persistant thought: "Scott was a very lucky guy!"

My condolences to the mourners.
:niceone:
Actually, I think we were the lucky ones for having known him

Mrs Busa Pete
9th July 2008, 09:08
Well i guess there is not much more that can be added to what been said.

Carrisa i will shot from my the hip. You know i only meet scott and yourself a couple of times i can remember talking about Holdens & Fords scott i still say holdens are better :rockon::chase: but we can agree to disagree with that one. Carrisa, Lani what can i say you where amazing your speeches bought more than a tear to my eyes and i know the next few months are going to hard but watching the pair of you and the strength you give each other will help.

You two ladys rock and i know we are a long way away but if there is ever anything we could do for you please don't hesitate to ask.Take care Wendy & Pete:hug: Oh and thank you for allowing us to be a part of scott's farewell.

GurlRacer
9th July 2008, 11:17
Hi everyone,

Here is the link to the tribute video I made that was shown at the funeral. :)

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=8wu2LbXDGfw

Enjoy! I hope those of you that couldn't make it enjoy this :)

martybabe
9th July 2008, 11:33
Hi everyone,

Here is the link to the tribute video I made that was shown at the funeral. :)

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=8wu2LbXDGfw

Enjoy! I hope those of you that couldn't make it enjoy this :)


.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .............. The dots are where I'd put the words, if I could find any. Deeply moved.A very tearful, thank you.

Meanie
9th July 2008, 11:57
Hi everyone,

Here is the link to the tribute video I made that was shown at the funeral. :)

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=8wu2LbXDGfw

Enjoy! I hope those of you that couldn't make it enjoy this :)

That was a bueatiful tribute, even though i didnt know your dad i couldnt help but feel the passion he had for life and how proud you are of him
Thanks so much for posting that I hope my children love me as much as you did your dad

Aslan
9th July 2008, 12:43
That was a bueatiful tribute, even though i didnt know your dad i couldnt help but feel the passion he had for life and how proud you are of him
Thanks so much for posting that I hope my children love me as much as you did your dad

Lani - what Meanie said - you and your Mum were amazing at the tribute to your Dad's life.

As a Father I certainly hope I have earned the affection and love of my children that your Dad cleary earned with you! Great that you were able to share so many positive times together especially the Targa eh.

best wishes Aslan aka Stephen O

GurlRacer
9th July 2008, 15:38
Thanks everyone... Your kind words and support have been overwhelming. I think you've gained 10+ new members from my family because they just want to read this. He did touch so many people, but I had no idea until this happened...

And to those of you out there that worry about your relationship with your kids, I never deeply (key word) appreciated Dad until I hit 15. It will come in their own time and in their own special way. Don't forget everyone is different, I just had a very open way about it. :)

Thanks again for all your support, this certainly is part of my family now, so thank you all. See you guys on a ride, somewhere, sometime! :)

ynot slow
9th July 2008, 19:06
Very moving and from the heart tribute,you can't buy that love,many thanks for letting us see it.

my-bonaventure
17th July 2008, 11:58
Hi everyone,

Here is the link to the tribute video I made that was shown at the funeral. :)

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=8wu2LbXDGfw

Enjoy! I hope those of you that couldn't make it enjoy this :)

Thank you for sharing the video. I met Scott and Carrissa and a very young Lani years ago when he had a stint being a fisherman at Ngawi. I was devistated to hear the news of his passing while back in the Wairarapa. May the love and kind thoughts of those around you surround you in the days and weeks to come. May you feel Scotts strength, humor and passion for life and know that he is never far away. RIP Scott

merv
17th July 2008, 19:10
Ups to you Lani, that was a great tribute video. Sorry I couldn't make the funeral having booked my holiday long before this but I can assure you I was there in spirit.

anja und holger
18th July 2008, 14:18
We have received Johns Email yesterday and have been shocked to hear from the accident. We feel deeply sorry with Carissa, family and of course all his friends.

When we came to New Zealand we had posted in this forum and this was Scott's reply:

Welcome

as most of the others have said, we too have a spare bedroom here for as long as you need

I can even show you some of the better places to ride in the Hawkes Bay (Wine Capital and Art Deco Capital of the World )

Just let me know

Also check out the BMWOR site (BMW Owners Registry)
http://www.bmwor.org.nz/
There is a forum in there too

Cheers Scott

And when we came to Napier he picked us from town and we had an awesome time at his house. He did the tour guide and showed us some wonderful roads and places around Napier. We had some fantastic evenings with his family and friends. He was an openhearted and lovely person, we felt like home and we really appreciated his cordial way caring for us.
Bye Scott it was a pleasure to meet you. We will never forget you because you are a part of our world trip....

Anja und Holger

MSTRS
18th July 2008, 14:37
Glad to see that you got the message, only sorry that it was such a sad one. Are you going to start a thread to update us on where you've been and yet to go?

Quasievil
18th July 2008, 14:44
I texted them the day I found out but Holger prolly swapped his phone for a beer and a steak Im picking

The website is here

http://www.2aufreisen.de/pages/en/home.php?lang=EN

fairly up to date.

See ya tomorrow john !

cooneyr
21st July 2008, 18:25
Sorry to be dredging up this thread but I thought people might like to know about Scotts Dusty Butt article that was published in this months Kiwi Rider.

The only time I've had the pleasures of meeting Scott was the weekend of the Dusty Butt. Scott obviously was inspired by the event as he talked to me a about coming down for the failed 07 run before finally joining us for the 08 run.

The article he wrote is excellent and conveys the feeling of the day very well. It will remind me of Scott and our first successful DB1k forever.

Cheers R

Lias
25th July 2008, 11:39
Fuck...

I only just found this thread now.. no idea how the hell I missed this.

Zukin, I only met you once, but that time, and everything I ever saw you do or say on KB simply reinforces what others have said, you were a good keen man. Rest In Peace.

Wolf
25th July 2008, 13:11
I only just found this thread now.. no idea how the hell I missed this.

Me either. Lias just told me today.

Scott was a great bloke.

RIP Scott and belated condolences to his family.

I'll raise an ale to him next time I get a chance.