Tyre question: pilot power ct2

[chrispy121]

I need some answers please I have two opinions on the pilot power ct 2 some people have told me that the centre is harder than the pilot power and some one else told me the centre is the same and the edges are softer on the ct2. i am currently running a power and want to know what the exact difference is between the standard and ct2

[fatzx10r]

I need some answers please I have two opinions on the pilot power ct 2 some people have told me that the centre is harder than the pilot power and some one else told me the centre is the same and the edges are softer on the ct2. i am currently running a power and want to know what the exact difference is between the standard and ct2

the edges are softer

[chrispy121]

thanks for that two different bike shops and two different answers.
now I know I might get the ct2

[Cajun]

best information go to michelin site

http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=2092004103725&codePage=2092004103725_07092004135921&lang=EN

'With a softer rubber mix on the shoulders, the new Pilot Power 2CT will satisfy even the most demanding sport riders.'

done about 10,000kms on the 2cts great tire, found they not as good on the track in wet conditions compared to the normal pp

[Aero165]

I had some on my last R1 before I sold it. I loved them. They last for ages

[Cr1MiNaL]

softer on the outside by 15% same as PP's in the centre, Ive got the on the R6...loving them, quick warm ups and awesome grip... greAt on the track too.

[Mort]

I have them on my blade... They seem to be wearing very well (6000km so far). Grip is superb even in cold weather. The best thing is the improvement in turn in speed.... makes the bike feel much more agile. I would buy again. recommended.

[scorry]

I have them on my blade... They seem to be wearing very well (6000km so far). Grip is superb even in cold weather. The best thing is the improvement in turn in speed.... makes the bike feel much more agile. I would buy again. recommended.

wow 6000 km thats impressive, how they looking now?

[Morcs]

I also heard that the pilot road 2's are no harder than the 2ct?

[jrandom]

I also heard that the pilot road 2's are no harder than the 2ct?

Dunno about that.

Tell you what, though, a PP 2CT front gives noticeably better grip than a PR2 front.

I'm all about the PPs and their fast warmup, good wet grip and tippy profile. Fuckin mint tyres when you've got lots of weight and power to keep stuck to the road. Only drawback is a lack of feel - you have to learn to just trust them.

After wasting a new vanilla PP (not 2CT) 190/50 rear on the GSX1400 with a couple of silly burnouts, I'm about to switch to a 190/55 PP 2CT rear. I look forward to reporting on how it goes. I've loved the 190/55 rear profile on other bikes - I reckon it'll do wonders for Betty.

(Every little bit of extra ground clearance helps, too.)

[mouldy]

I also heard that the pilot road 2's are no harder than the 2ct?

Wrong , try road compound in the centre of the rear and Power compounds on the side and centre of the front and even softer on the sides , grippy as a standard power but last a lot longer

[Morcs]

Wrong , try road compound in the centre of the rear and Power compounds on the side and centre of the front and even softer on the sides , grippy as a standard power but last a lot longer

cheers Mikey, so $200 for a set? :hug:

[klyong82]

Just replaced the front with a 2CT on the blade....so far riding it in the rain was nice even though its not fully scrubbed in....good tires but will have to see...first time moving from Conti's to Michelin...

[Ocean1]

FWIW I ran a shore hardness metre across my PP2ct, no measurable difference. Having said that I believe the main difference in compounds is the silicone content, wears better but less sticky.

More than happy with mine, especially in the wet.

[puddytat]

Over 10000 out of my PP2ct's & I will replace the rear only ....after finishing it off at the track:yes:
A mate had some Pilot Roads on his Buell,then tried the PP2cts at my urging & is most impressed with them,wearing much better then the PR's.

[Tony & Carolyn]

Dunno about that.

Tell you what, though, a PP 2CT front gives noticeably better grip than a PR2 front.

I'm all about the PPs and their fast warmup, good wet grip and tippy profile. Fuckin mint tyres when you've got lots of weight and power to keep stuck to the road. Only drawback is a lack of feel - you have to learn to just trust them.

After wasting a new vanilla PP (not 2CT) 190/50 rear on the GSX1400 with a couple of silly burnouts, I'm about to switch to a 190/55 PP 2CT rear. I look forward to reporting on how it goes. I've loved the 190/55 rear profile on other bikes - I reckon it'll do wonders for Betty.

(Every little bit of extra ground clearance helps, too.)

I'd be interested to know how you get on sourcing the 55 profile as i've been told they don't import them to nz. Unless you go continetal sport attack you'll be looking at a set of race attack street, racetech k3 or super corsa . I'm wearing 2ct now but looking to change profile to sharpen turn in, good sports trye, but then i guess they should be for the price.

[jrandom]

i've been told they don't import them to nz.

Who told you that?

[sinned]

Over 10000 out of my PP2ct's & I will replace the rear only ....after finishing it off at the track:yes:
A mate had some Pilot Roads on his Buell,then tried the PP2cts at my urging & is most impressed with them,wearing much better then the PR's.
PPs and PP2cts have the same (soft) rubber compound in the centre while PR have a higher durability rating. So I can't see how he got more kms on the PP2cts than on the PR.
The PP on the rear of my S3 squared off at about 5000ks and now at 8000ks there is little left in the center and the sides have badly scolloped at the tread pattern. The tyre wear at 5000ks resulted in the bike losing its quick tip in - should have replaced it then but so much wear left.


I also heard that the pilot road 2's are no harder than the 2ct?
According to Michellin the PR2 have more durability - I think that means harder rubber?

I am thinking of changing to Avon Storms for more usable tyre life but fear the bike may not turn / tip as quickly.

[Owl]

I am thinking of changing to Avon Storms for more usable tyre life but fear the bike may not turn / tip as quickly.

I think you may be right, but the Storm is a good tyre. It has a flatter profile than the PP and the 180 is actually 186mm wide.

[Mystic13]

Had PR's and they have immense grip in the real wet stuff. It'll go over far more than I think possible. Got 16k's out of them and could have got more just changed for track days. Changed to PP 2CT's. I'm close to bald on the edge (scalloped as someone mentioned above) and in the middle at 8km's. The Conti Sport Attacks I had kept letting go on the front and barely ever the rear in the wet. I hate the front letting go. They also didn't make much more than 5k's.

I'm an all weather rider and while the 2CT's have been great I'd either go to the PR2's or possible the Metzeler M3's which also has multi compound if I remember correctly.

The problem I had with the PP 2CT's and more so in the first few thousand km's was what felt like aqua planning when leaned over at speed in the wet in a sweeper you'd get what felt like a small two wheel slide. The PR's were just unbelievable in the wet.

So my question is M3's or PR2's... any thoughts.

[sinned]

Just fitted a Storm this morning so will see how it goes. Wet road and new tyre is not a good mix. Opened the throttle a bit in 2nd gear and thought i was in neutral till realised the rear was spinning freely.

[klyong82]

I think you might need to take it easy for the first 100km's till it is scrubbed in. Have never used avon's before but I hear they are good. I replaced PP2CT last weekend and they were good in the torrential auckland rain....

[Owl]

Just fitted a Storm this morning so will see how it goes. Wet road and new tyre is not a good mix. Opened the throttle a bit in 2nd gear and thought i was in neutral till realised the rear was spinning freely.

I hear what you're saying! After fitting my Storm, I went for a wee ride and hit some wet road. Rear kept sliding left with the road camber and scared the crap out of me. I turned around and headed back to dry road.

[NZsarge]

, I'm about to switch to a 190/55 PP 2CT rear. I look forward to reporting on how it goes. I've loved the 190/55 rear profile on other bikes - I reckon it'll do wonders for Betty.

(Every little bit of extra ground clearance helps, too.)


I'd be interested to know how you get on sourcing the 55 profile as i've been told they don't import them to nz.
I hope jrandom can get them coz it would be just what i'm after.


you'll be looking at a set of race attack's

Tryed these in 55 profile on the rear and I liked them, did'nt last bugger all time though but I guess that's what you should expect out of a medium compound race tyre...

[jrandom]

Tryed these in 55 profile on the rear and I liked them, did'nt last bugger all time though but I guess that's what you should expect out of a medium compound race tyre...

I have a 190/55 Pilot Power 2CT on the back now.

If you want one, call Northern Accessories. They should still have some in stock; get them to send it out to the shop you want to do the fitting. You'll be paying about $80 more for the rear ($460) than you would for a 190/50 PP 2CT.

To be honest I'm undecided as to whether I like it - it's really not suited for commuting and touring, so I'm kinda wasting its potential at the moment.

It'd definitely make the bike faster around the track, though. The tip-in speed and ground clearance improvement are noticeable.

[NZsarge]

I have a 190/55 Pilot Power 2CT on the back now.

If you want one, call Northern Accessories. They should still have some in stock; get them to send it out to the shop you want to do the fitting. You'll be paying about $80 more for the rear ($460) than you would for a 190/50 PP 2CT.

To be honest I'm undecided as to whether I like it - it's really not suited for commuting and touring, so I'm kinda wasting its potential at the moment.

It'd definitely make the bike faster around the track, though. The tip-in speed and ground clearance improvement are noticeable.

Holly arse! $80! I thought that the $50 more odd you get charged for a 2CT over a normal PP was enough but worth it but I don't know about another $80 on top again!

[sinned]

I think you might need to take it easy for the first 100km's till it is scrubbed in.
I was taking it easy - very little throttle at 45kms going up an overpass.


I hear what you're saying! After fitting my Storm, I went for a wee ride and hit some wet road. Rear kept sliding left with the road camber and scared the crap out of me. I turned around and headed back to dry road.
Got home and ran grit paper over the tyre. Going for a long ride Sunday so will scrub it in then.

I had a storm on the rear of the SV1000 for a 2000ks and then sold the bike. I did like the tyre and selected this again based on KB opinions. I should keep the S3 for at least the life of the tyres so will report on how I like it.

[sinned]

The Storm is now scrubbed in. Very slippery until a run over the Rimutakas yesterday. Now with 450kms it is now longer looking new. A nice tyre.