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Morcs
30th June 2008, 10:23
I need some help.

Im writing a letter to the police in appeal for a ticket.

I got ticketed for riding a motorcycle >250cc 1 week before I got my full license.

Its common knowledge that its quite possible to get off.

Having tried every approach with police officers and still having the book thrown at me, Im not sure how to word this letter, or even what to say.

Some help would be greatly appreciated,

cheers,

Steve.

WarlockNZ
30th June 2008, 10:42
How about you pay the fine and let it go mate.

law states you can't ride a bike larger than 250 cc unless you have a full license.

You ... restricted license + bike larger than 250cc = breaking the law.

Whats to complain about ?? it's a fair cop.

xwhatsit
30th June 2008, 10:46
I hate to say this, but you've got a fairly awful license record, don't you? Racked up a fair few tickets. If I was a plod, I'd likely not feel so generous as to let you off a ticket. Perhaps if you had a clean record they'd be more willing to bend the rules.

One week, though! That's frustrating. Temptation for you I suppose!

Nasty
30th June 2008, 10:46
You broke the law ... knowlingly ... pay the fine. It is your fault, you took a known risk and lost.

TOTO
30th June 2008, 10:52
what they said. tough.

bungbung
30th June 2008, 11:21
It's worth a crack.

I assume that you passed your full a week later, then write a letter.

Taking your record into account, I wouldn't expect much but it's certainly worth a try.

fergie
30th June 2008, 11:27
take 2 cement pills and get hard! pay the fine,let it go.

nodrog
30th June 2008, 11:32
"Dear Pigs,

I broke the law and got caught, its not fair, please let me off.

Ta, Morcs."

Devil
30th June 2008, 11:37
Well if you dont ask you dont get.

Just provide the required infringement information, say you completed your full licence test a week later and ask nicely if you may have the fine waived.

You may be shit out of luck, but then again you might not.

Correct grammar and spelling wouldn't go amiss

NOMIS
30th June 2008, 11:49
dont no about what to write in the letter ..im not very good with them, But maybe a few vouchers to dunking donuts would help ;-) :bleh:

Choco
30th June 2008, 12:09
I think you just got busted on this one mate <_<
I'd just pay the fine and save my Biker Gods brownie points for something else.
Good luck if you go for it though!

Morcs
30th June 2008, 12:11
How about you pay the fine and let it go mate.

law states you can't ride a bike larger than 250 cc unless you have a full license.

You ... restricted license + bike larger than 250cc = breaking the law.

Whats to complain about ?? it's a fair cop.


You broke the law ... knowlingly ... pay the fine. It is your fault, you took a known risk and lost.

It was one of 4 tickets I got, all the others I will pay as they were actual offense for riding like a lunatic.

But riding a 400 which has less power than most 250's... $400 ticket is not really that fair.

It was the cop who suggested I ask to get it waived - though he wouldnt let me off to start with as he's got to get his quota :lol:






Well if you dont ask you dont get.

Just provide the required infringement information, say you completed your full licence test a week later and ask nicely if you may have the fine waived.

You may be shit out of luck, but then again you might not.

Correct grammar and spelling wouldn't go amiss

Thats more like the advice im needing. Cheers Matt.



Did over 800kms on the weekend and rarely broke the law.

Dont always hold the past against people. Most of my tickets/fines have occured purely from license condition breaches, and now thats behind me.

jrandom
30th June 2008, 12:28
Just be straight up.

Because you're awesome and I love you dearly, I've drafted you a letter you can use. You might want to edit the bold bits in square brackets before printing and sending it.

I'll just post it here, so that anyone else who wishes to kiss some Police arse in future instead of taking it like a man can refer back to it.

:msn-wink:

James Deuce
30th June 2008, 12:31
Own your appalling attitude and take it like a man.

pzkpfw
30th June 2008, 13:04
...and take it like a man.

If a Man is an ass, that's where he takes it.

vifferman
30th June 2008, 13:08
Because you're awesome and I love you dearly, I've drafted you a letter you can use. You might want to edit the bold bits in square brackets before printing and sending it.Awesomeness!
I reckon leave the bits in square brackets in. :yes:

vifferman
30th June 2008, 13:09
It's worth a crack.
So, bend over and give them yours.
:buggerd:

Macstar
30th June 2008, 13:10
Just be straight up.

Because you're awesome and I love you dearly, I've drafted you a letter you can use. You might want to edit the bold bits in square brackets before printing and sending it.

I'll just post it here, so that anyone else who wishes to kiss some Police arse in future instead of taking it like a man can refer back to it.

:msn-wink:

That's a good letter. Want to write me one too?:blink:

breakaway
30th June 2008, 13:12
@op

Don't you already have an impressive rap sheet?

Maybe thats why they won't 'let you off' it.

Just bend over and lube up. Helen ain't gonna let her money go just like that.

scracha
30th June 2008, 13:16
Was this another noob (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1199079&postcount=68) cop Morcs?

Morcs
30th June 2008, 13:47
Was this another noob (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1199079&postcount=68) cop Morcs?

Nope. This guy was actually good - was helpful yet condemning.

Tank
30th June 2008, 13:57
I need some help.

Im writing a letter to the police in appeal for a ticket.

I got ticketed for riding a motorcycle >250cc 1 week before I got my full license.

Its common knowledge that its quite possible to get off.



Common Knowledge you can get off?? Tui! - I call bullshit on that.


It was one of 4 tickets I got, all the others I will pay as they were actual offense for riding like a lunatic.

But riding a 400 which has less power than most 250's... $400 ticket is not really that fair.

It was the cop who suggested I ask to get it waived - though he wouldnt let me off to start with as he's got to get his quota :lol:
.

He already had his quota point when he pulled you over - the fact he asked you to write in was probally just to shut you up.

The $400 is fair - because them the rules - you knew it when you went out and chose to take the risk - so HTFU and dont whine about it. "mawwwhahaha its not fair" :crybaby::crybaby:




Did over 800kms on the weekend and rarely broke the law.

Dont always hold the past against people. Most of my tickets/fines have occured purely from license condition breaches, and now thats behind me.

But riding like a lunatic isnt huh?

Toaster
30th June 2008, 14:05
Given your apparent history, I'd take an educated guess that you'd have no chance. You'd need a clean traffic history to have even a sniff in.

<Rhino>
30th June 2008, 14:07
LOL< sorry man, your screwed and letter aint gonna help. :bleh:

:chase::Police::doh::Police:

Horse
30th June 2008, 14:12
Most of my tickets/fines have occured purely from license condition breaches, and now thats behind me.

Your plaintive cries might be more convincing if you changed your sig:


Competiting for speeding tickets with ArcherWC and JRandom since 2006.

God is an iron.

tri boy
30th June 2008, 14:14
Sorry dude, I think your screwed. Bend over boy, plods got summit for ya.:buggerd:

Morcs
30th June 2008, 16:52
Your plaintive cries might be more convincing if you changed your sig:



God is an iron.

huh?

what sig.

Choco
30th June 2008, 21:09
Love the letter :laugh:
Can we have a Standard speeding ticket one so we can print it out, cross out bits and post it straight away?
Bling for you!

munterk6
30th June 2008, 21:13
Lets face it, the ticketing and fine system is a corrupt way of taking money off us....why do they take money??? If they are really concerned about safety there are so many other ways to make the transgressors sit up and take notice.
I know of people that pay fines with other peoples money.
Hows about making the naughty people pay with their time as in community service stuff? Maybe weed some gardens at the ol' folks home?
so write your letter and do your best to get off this one...ya never know! :bye:

dwnundabkr
30th June 2008, 21:27
Awesome letter now voted chief letter writter for all of kb lol

Edbear
30th June 2008, 21:58
It was one of 4 tickets I got, all the others I will pay as they were actual offense for riding like a lunatic.

...


Did over 800kms on the weekend and rarely broke the law.

Dont always hold the past against people. Most of my tickets/fines have occured purely from license condition breaches, and now thats behind me.


Given your apparent history, I'd take an educated guess that you'd have no chance. You'd need a clean traffic history to have even a sniff in.

Mmmmm! Anybody see a problem here....?

Little Miss Trouble
30th June 2008, 22:30
Good to see the high and mighty parade out in force.

As fate would have it a friend of my boyfriend was told by a police officer that ticketed him for riding a GSXR600 two weeks before his full licence test that if he contacted the officer within 28days with proof that he had successfully passed his full licence then the ticket would be waived. His history wasn't quite as checkered as morcs' but still not a stirling example of how to stay inside the law - he got off the ticket.

Griffin
30th June 2008, 23:58
Whats that saying? "If you cant do the time... dont do the crime"
By all means take the risk but if you get caught then put your hand up and take responsibility for your actions.

Kickaha
1st July 2008, 06:28
take responsibility for your actions.

You can't be serious? you really expect people to do that?

Owl
1st July 2008, 07:08
Hell, I sent in a letter once to get off an infringement notice because I was actually innocent. They refused, I had to pay and I did have a clean record.
In the end I decided to view it this way. Several times I’ve been fortunate enough to receive leniency when dealing with police in the form of warnings and having speed reduced on infringement notices when I was guilty. So I realised that 1 baddy attached to several goodies still leaves me on the + side. :yes:

Nasty
1st July 2008, 07:31
Good to see the high and mighty parade out in force.


There is absolutely nothing high and mighty in saying ... "If you break the law (in this case knowingly) then pay the price."

If I break the law I pay I don't whinge about getting fined. Nothing high and mighty there .. just realistic.

Morcs
1st July 2008, 08:16
To The high and mighty parade:

Get the fuck out of my thread please.

the title clearly states I require assistance - if you aint here to give it, fuck off you load of useless pricks.

I think i damn well know (more than any of you here actually) about doing the crime and doing the time.

:angry2:


oh and thanks for those who actually said something helpful/constructive. much appreciated.

Steve.

Griffin
1st July 2008, 08:36
To The high and mighty parade:

Get the fuck out of my thread please. Steve.

:rofl::rofl::rofl: Your thread... in a PUBLIC FORUM. Like Nasty says - there aint no high and mighty's just realists who dont whinge about being caught doing something they shouldnt. Dont be a :tugger: just accept you were in the wrong.

The Stranger
1st July 2008, 08:49
:rofl::rofl::rofl: Your thread... in a PUBLIC FORUM. Like Nasty says - there aint no high and mighty's just realists who dont whinge about being caught doing something they shouldnt. Dont be a :tugger: just accept you were in the wrong.

Don't be a fuckwit!
He didn't whinge. He asked for assistance.
He already knows he was in the wrong, nothing to accept there.
Just cause he doesn't behave like you and just down trou and take it up the asre each time it's offered no need to cal him names and get all pissy.

Griffin
1st July 2008, 09:06
Dude buys a bike - obviously is a bit of a twat on it from all the tickets hes had previously, its a bigger cc rating than he is supposed to be riding for the license he holds, he gets caught and issued 'another' ticket, comes on the forums trying to find ways to wash his hands of it and... Im the fuckwit... :doh: Now I get it. your a little jealous cos you havent been awarded the little green man arent you??? Here you go then :tugger: Now run along and have a nice day :clap:

The Stranger
1st July 2008, 09:58
Dude buys a bike - obviously is a bit of a twat on it from all the tickets hes had previously, its a bigger cc rating than he is supposed to be riding for the license he holds, he gets caught and issued 'another' ticket, comes on the forums trying to find ways to wash his hands of it and... Im the fuckwit...

Closer (especially the last part).
But that's not what you said the first time is it?
I'm pleased to see you are capable of learning, with the right teaching techniques. Well done.

Morcs
1st July 2008, 10:18
Dude buys a bike - obviously is a bit of a twat on it from all the tickets hes had previously, its a bigger cc rating than he is supposed to be riding for the license he holds, he gets caught and issued 'another' ticket, comes on the forums trying to find ways to wash his hands of it and... Im the fuckwit... :doh: Now I get it. your a little jealous cos you havent been awarded the little green man arent you??? Here you go then :tugger: Now run along and have a nice day :clap:

Please dont talk down to me from your high perch.

from my calculation I have been riding 8.23 x longer than you. And you quite obviously have never owned a bike that can wheelie, stoppie, or do 0-100 in 3 seconds or less... not to mention smaller than 5 foot wide and less than 300kg...

ManDownUnder
1st July 2008, 10:35
Mate - I've said it all before - I won't bother repeating myself.

Take Jrandom's letter (about the 10th post in this thread) fill it out and submit it. There are 100 ways to write the thing and that's probably one of the better ones.

Good luck and FFS - don't do it again... honestly - in my eyes you're falling into a select group of repeat offenders that are pinged for doing really basic dumb shit. THEY have the excuses of extreme youth, naivity and exuberance... and I don' think you do (yes - that was a backhanded compliment).

Think of the mods or track time you could have had instead of funding Uncle Helens Disabled Car Parking Goon Squad

Morcs
1st July 2008, 10:43
I used 'randoms letter and posted it off yesterday.

Will see how it goes and update the thread in about a year when I get a response... :2thumbsup

I have hit a turning point, and will be very very disappointed in myself If I continue to rack up fines at anything near 50% of the rate I have done in the last 2 years.

ManDownUnder
1st July 2008, 10:54
I used 'randoms letter and posted it off yesterday.

Will see how it goes and update the thread in about a year when I get a response... :2thumbsup

I have hit a turning point, and will be very very disappointed in myself If I continue to rack up fines at anything near 50% of the rate I have done in the last 2 years.

:niceone: :niceone: :niceone: :niceone: :niceone:

Mate you're a good bastard - that's the thing that pisses me off most I think... You are better than this.

Forest
1st July 2008, 12:21
"Dear Pigs,

I broke the law and got caught, its not fair, please let me off.

Ta, Morcs."

Short and to the point. I like it! :2thumbsup

However it should be "I broke the law and got caught, it's not fair, please let me off."

After all, we wouldn't want to create the wrong impression! :lol:

scracha
1st July 2008, 18:00
I have hit a turning point, and will be very very disappointed in myself If I continue to rack up fines at anything near 50% of the rate I have done in the last 2 years.
bwhahah. Morcs, you're full of $hit but at least it's harmless shit. Good luck with the letter dude.

Morcs
14th July 2008, 12:58
Well, a big public THANKYOU to Mr JRANDOM.

Got a letter in the mail on friday. a whole 2 lines saying they have revoked the charge.

So Dan, in exchange for saving me $400, I shall spend $7 to buy you a beer :D

jrandom
14th July 2008, 13:02
Well, a big public THANKYOU to Mr JRANDOM.

Fookin neow!

:2thumbsup

Very pleased to hear it. I'll 'ave that beer this Thursday night then.

My pen is mightier than the ginga's sword...

Tank
14th July 2008, 16:42
Well, a big public THANKYOU to Mr JRANDOM.

Got a letter in the mail on friday. a whole 2 lines saying they have revoked the charge.

So Dan, in exchange for saving me $400, I shall spend $7 to buy you a beer :D

As I posted earlier - I would have never thought you would have gotten off that.

congratulations! and Big Ups for JRandom.

BIHB@0610
14th July 2008, 19:06
Just goes to show - own your mistake, but give it a delightfully eloquent crack (without whinging) and the universe may look kindly on you.

The Lord helps those who help themselves!

Well done Morcs and Jrandom :hug: