Tenant's rights

[vindy500]

yesterday my landlord busted into my room without knocking, what are my rights here?

[Mom]

More information required. What is the situation you are living in? Do you have a license to occupy or a tenancy agreement?

[NOMIS]

tannants dont have rights!!! raarrrhh grumble moan.

[vindy500]

we have a tenancy agreement, it doesnt say anything in regards to this incident, situation is 5 flats in a complex on top of a carparking building, then the wardens flats on top of our flats.

[Mom]

So what led up to this situation? There must be much more to this. If it was breaking and entering you should report it to the police. If you want to flick me a PM telling me what was going on. I have a little bit of experience with this sort of thing.

[Quasievil]

yesterday my landlord busted into my room without knocking, what are my rights here?

You rent the space, its your home, he has to give reasonable notice, if he busted into your room thats possibly criminal behaviour, the fact you where home makes it worse...............home invasion, breaking and entering?

report the prick to the tenacy tribunal and to the police

[vindy500]

well i had my music a bit loud. she wanted it quieter.


but im pretty sure she has to knock

[Quasievil]

well i had my music a bit loud. she wanted it quieter.


but im pretty sure she has to knock

is she HOT ???

[vindy500]

no, and has a fat baby

[imdying]

Tenanacy Tribunal, they're the ones to go to. Yes, it's against the law. Yes, there is a possibility of being paid compensation, although in this case it's likely to be difficult to get, and a small amount anyway. Yes, ring the TT, and potentially the police depending on how that conversation goes.

If you're just fucked off and want to mess with her, ring the bond office and find out if she has lodged your bond as she is legally required to do. Fine and compensation all round if she hasn't :)

[vindy500]

If you're just fucked off and want to mess with her,

yeah pretty musch, im just annoyed that she didnt knock basically and just want to know what i have on my side, I wrote them a email saying i was not happy that she came in and they replied saying they want to have a meeting with me tomorrow night, so just wanted to know where i stand

[Quasievil]

yeah pretty musch, im just annoyed that she didnt knock basically and just want to know what i have on my side, I wrote them a email saying i was not happy that she came in and they replied saying they want to have a meeting with me tomorrow night, so just wanted to know where i stand

mate I would have a freind come along to that meeting to, someone with a bit of experience.

[Nasty]

You have a tenancy agreement .. all your rights are on the back .. you signed it I hope you read it.

24/48 hours notice .. is the norm depending on the variables.

[Swoop]

Were you caught havin' a masty???

[vindy500]

You have a tenancy agreement .. all your rights are on the back .. you signed it I hope you read it.

24/48 hours notice .. is the norm depending on the variables.

Yeah the websites ive looked at seem to indicate 48, theres nothing on the agreement i signed about it.


Were you caught havin' a masty???

now that would have been awkward lol

[Nasty]

Yeah the websites ive looked at seem to indicate 48, theres nothing on the agreement i signed about it.



If there is nothing on the agreement you signed you are rather silly ... always back sure that you have the minimums .. you are acutally covered by the law and your landlord should know this. The main recourse you have is to put your complaints in writing with suggested methods for the future. Or just discuss it with the person.

[vindy500]

You asked for it and now you want compensation....

Free a trapped wild dog and he will bite. Sigh.
Now I regret giving the law breakdown and wished you were homeless instead.

You made a mistake, she made a mistake.
Just get on with your life , sad sod.

Who said i wanted compensation?
i am not planning on trying to get any. I just wanted to know what my rights are in that situation. i would happily move on but they want to have a meeting about it. Forgive me that i dont want to just go and sit down and have them lecture me without knowing where i stand.

[vindy500]

Bullshit...

umm ok?


But I don't

[vindy500]

ahh quote should have been cut off shorter.

just pissed off, ideal result for me would be an apology for not knocking, i have already apologized for the music. (which was at 1:30 in the afternoon, I don't really believe i was being unreasonable.)

[-df-]

as long as the person that you are renting off owns the property then you are automatically covered by the base contract set out by the TT. Nothing that you sign can can go against that base contract (e.g. if the base contract states 48 hours, and your signed contract states 24 hours, the base contract is the valid one, e.g. 48 hours).

IF the person you are renting off rents the property from someone else who owns the land...you are stuck with what ever is in your contract.

Needed to find this information out a few years ago...could have changed but if so haven't heard about it.

[imdying]

mate I would have a freind come along to that meeting to, someone with a bit of experience.+1 on that. Take your boss or someone else impartial that you trust.

Yeah the websites ive looked at seem to indicate 48, theres nothing on the agreement i signed about it.Yes, I'm pretty sure that that is their legal obligation under the act.

You asked for it and now you want compensation....No, that was me suggesting that he might be entitled to some... might as well make the bother worth your while if you're going to pursue an avenue of a legal grievance.

[vindy500]

as long as the person that you are renting off owns the property then you are automatically covered by the base contract set out by the TT. Nothing that you sign can can go against that base contract (e.g. if the base contract states 48 hours, and your signed contract states 24 hours, the base contract is the valid one, e.g. 48 hours).

IF the person you are renting off rents the property from someone else who owns the land...you are stuck with what ever is in your contract.

Needed to find this information out a few years ago...could have changed but if so haven't heard about it.

thanks this was the kind of information i was after.

So the place i rent from is a business. (well a church actually) And the wardens obviously dont own this place, they are just the churchs representatives i guess... i pay money to the church directly.

The contract doesnt state anything about them entering, i.e it doesnt say they can come into our rooms, and it doesnt say they cant come into our room.

[Nasty]

Who said i wanted compensation?
i am not planning on trying to get any. I just wanted to know what my rights are in that situation. i would happily move on but they want to have a meeting about it. Forgive me that i dont want to just go and sit down and have them lecture me without knowing where i stand.


Bullshit...


There has been no discussion on compensation - as there shouldn't be ... so sniping at each other is just stupid!!

[Nasty]

thanks this was the kind of information i was after.

So the place i rent from is a business. (well a church actually) And the wardens obviously dont own this place, they are just the churchs representatives i guess... i pay money to the church directly.

The contract doesnt state anything about them entering, i.e it doesnt say they can come into our rooms, and it doesnt say they cant come into our room.


Doesn't matter who the landlord is ... their representatives are the ones that have to obey the law.

If it doesn't say you are covered as previously mentioned by the minimums required by law.

[vindy500]

Doesn't matter who the landlord is ... their representatives are the ones that have to obey the law.

If it doesn't say you are covered as previously mentioned by the minimums required by law.

thanks :)

10 char

[-df-]

thanks this was the kind of information i was after.

So the place i rent from is a business. (well a church actually) And the wardens obviously dont own this place, they are just the churchs representatives i guess... i pay money to the church directly.

The contract doesnt state anything about them entering, i.e it doesnt say they can come into our rooms, and it doesnt say they cant come into our room.

Sounds like you have perfect grounds to complain then. I'd suggest ringing the TT people before going to the meeting, they are very helpful and it doesn't cost anything.

[vindy500]

as long as the person that you are renting off owns the property then you are automatically covered by the base contract set out by the TT. Nothing that you sign can can go against that base contract (e.g. if the base contract states 48 hours, and your signed contract states 24 hours, the base contract is the valid one, e.g. 48 hours).

IF the person you are renting off rents the property from someone else who owns the land...you are stuck with what ever is in your contract.

Needed to find this information out a few years ago...could have changed but if so haven't heard about it.

on this note our contract say that we can be given 21 days notice to leave, but the TT says 90 days. Which one would apply?

[-df-]

on this note our contract say that we can be given 21 days notice to leave, but the TT says 90 days. Which one would apply?

There is 2 different types of "getting kicked out", one is if they sell the house or if the owners move in, 2nd is if they just want you gone. 90days is the min for them just wanting you gone, can't remember what the selling of the house is...will be on there website. EDIT: 45days keeps popping into my head...who knows tho :beer:

So as long as you rent off the owners as far as I understand it you have to be given the 90 days notice.

Again, please ring the TT to confirm this as things do change...and it was a couple of years ago I researched this.

[Macstar]

Were you caught havin' a masty???

Priceless:laugh:

[imdying]

on this note our contract say that we can be given 21 days notice to leave, but the TT says 90 days. Which one would apply?

I know the net makes is easy to ask questions, but get off it, and on the phone. Only the TT can give you reliable answers.

[Spuds1234]

Were you caught havin' a masty???

Might have been better if he was.

He could have just sat there wanking away and with a completely straight face (well as straight as the circumstances would allow) ask if she wants to help.

She'd back out pretty quick and I can guarantee it would never be mentioned by her again.

[yod]

lol

danger-masty!!!

[enigma51]

thanks this was the kind of information i was after.

So the place i rent from is a business. (well a church actually) And the wardens obviously dont own this place, they are just the churchs representatives i guess... i pay money to the church directly.

The contract doesnt state anything about them entering, i.e it doesnt say they can come into our rooms, and it doesnt say they cant come into our room.

those church ladies are usually very horny due to there husband screwing the alter boys
Maybe she was hoping you where doing hand party and could get some seeing your in the mood

[325rocket]

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[ynot slow]

Am due to put my home into real estate to look for tenants,and will come back every month or so to check it(property)out,will make sure I don't barge in,seriously will give them 48hr notice,mind you my neighbour will keep an eye on the place too,incase the property manager aint doing job.

Just signed a prospective agreement in new area to rent,holy shit talk about the 3rd degree,last landlord so put down MYSELF,previous landlord Me again,after explaining have owned houses since last 6 yrs.


Also maybe take a small tape recorder/dictaphone and ask if taping is ok.

[Usarka]

So the place i rent from is a business. (well a church actually) And the wardens obviously dont own this place, they are just the churchs representatives i guess... i pay money to the church directly.

The wardens are agents for the church, who are agents for god.

So therefore them barging in was an act of god!.........:doh: screwed....

[Motig]

Seems a lot of hassle for playing music "slightly loud". Whats the rest of the story ?

[NordieBoy]

Also maybe take a small tape recorder/dictaphone and ask if taping is ok.

Taping is always OK if you're a party to the conversation.

One of my clients has a really bad memory and wanted to make sure it was OK and got a letter from the privacy comissioner? that spelt it out.

[enigma51]

Seems a lot of hassle for playing music "slightly loud". Whats the rest of the story ?

Read my post

[Patrick]

well i had my music a bit loud. she wanted it quieter. but im pretty sure she has to knock

Maybe she did knock... but the music was too loud??? She was cheaper than noise control... and if they couldn't get ya, forced entry without warrant by Police could cost ya even more...


just pissed off, ideal result for me would be an apology for not knocking, i have already apologized for the music. (which was at 1:30 in the afternoon, I don't really believe i was being unreasonable.)

My guess is it did piss them off sufficiently enough, perhaps no response from knocking, and they now want to discuss the noise levels with ya, and all will be happy families again?? You have apologised, so it should be all good?


on this note our contract say that we can be given 21 days notice to leave, but the TT says 90 days. Which one would apply?

Yeah... tenant can give 21 days. Landlord has to give you 90 days, unless it is being sold or their family want to move in, then it is 42 days. Tenants have it sweet, really.... Then there are emergency eviction orders which are done through the TT and that can be real short... This wouldn't fall into that category, on the info supplied...

If ya haven't already, talk to Mom... she is knowledgable in these things...

[vindy500]

had my meeting, written warning because its happened several times... first time they have said anything tho, i asked how do i know how loud is too loud, they said i guess it will just have to be trial and error, wtf how can it be trial and error if the nexy time i trial they kick me out?

[Patrick]

had my meeting, written warning because its happened several times... first time they have said anything tho, i asked how do i know how loud is too loud, they said i guess it will just have to be trial and error, wtf how can it be trial and error if the nexy time i trial they kick me out?


Call a meeting at your place... test the waters while they are there as to what is acceptable.:Punk:

[vindy500]

Call a meeting at your place... test the waters while they are there as to what is acceptable.:Punk:

:)


its not even that bad... only a 40W amp a couple of bookshelfs and a 10" sub... not going to blow your eardrums...