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camchain
30th June 2008, 14:09
Something for the sad but (apparently) true files. I know some of you will have been through a divorce so forgive my trying to see funny side, but check this irony.

I saw this KTM 200 for sale on Trademe a few weeks ago along with a not uncommon comment - "Wife says bike must go!" I guess he wasn't serious enough about selling it (judging by original asking price) but evidently she was! bike turned up for sale again yesterday, with new details added:

"You are more then welcome to come and view the bike, only serious bidders though, no joy rides. This was my Husband's bike, due to separation I own the bike legally with papers. So I will try and answer the questions to the best of my knowledge."

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-163189181.htm

I wonder if he was allowed to keep his dog?

Danger
30th June 2008, 14:26
Damn I'm tempted to snap that one up for myself! Last of the good ones!

Colapop
30th June 2008, 14:40
She is not legally allowed to sell property of any sort until ownership has been declared bythe courts. If it does get sold then he may initiate repossession and the new owner either left out of pocket or have to seek compensation from the seller (not as easy as you might think)
Another point is that if she sells it then it must at a price that he agrees to instead of a grossly underinflated price and the money split between them by agreement.

crazyxr250rider
30th June 2008, 16:57
Thats low.

paturoa
30th June 2008, 17:26
She is not legally allowed to sell property of any sort until ownership has been declared bythe courts. If it does get sold then he may initiate repossession and the new owner either left out of pocket or have to seek compensation from the seller (not as easy as you might think)
Another point is that if she sells it then it must at a price that he agrees to instead of a grossly underinflated price and the money split between them by agreement.

You should post that as a question on the auction....

mstriumph
30th June 2008, 17:46
the legal beagle asked my late unlamented if he wanted to try and go after either of MY two bikes in our divorce settlement ....... his answer was "Hell no - i want to LIVE" :lol:

RiderInBlack
30th June 2008, 18:33
Have just added *Col*'s bit as a question to the auction:
Have been told the following:
"She is not legally allowed to sell property of any sort until ownership has been declared by the courts. If it does get sold then he may initiate repossession and the new owner either left out of pocket or have to seek compensation from the seller"
If this is so can you guarantee that this will not happen? If it does, will you return the money without too much hassle to the purchaser?

Being interesting what she comes up with:shifty:

camchain
2nd July 2008, 13:42
Whew. Unwittingly set the cat amongst the pigeons a bit with this post. Some pretty strong feelings there.

Danger you have me a bit intrigued: quote: 'Damn I'm tempted to snap that one up for myself! Last of the good ones!' Unquote.

That particular bike has a lot of hours on it and he never even had the jug off! Remembering your reporting big hours on your original piston. Whats the scoop?


:::::Apparently I'm working towards making every thread about KTM exc200s...!::::::

sidecar bob
2nd July 2008, 15:18
Never fall for the old, "bike goes or i go" line.
If she says that then tell her to pack her bags & get out.
A. She wants to own you & control what you own & what you do for relaxation.
B. She wants it turned into cash, so when she leaves next week she can take half (Far more use than half a motorbike)
C. All of the above.
I was very fortunate to have an ex wife that wanted no part of my considerable bike collection.

Colapop
2nd July 2008, 15:27
I see she's reworded the auction...
"Ktm, great condition, regularly serviced, has never been raced, just ridden on farm. have owned the bike for 5 years. Plastic have a few scuffs on it otherwise from that nothing else is wrong. Feel free to ask any question, or make any offers. You are more then welcome to come and view the bike, only serious bidders though, no joy rides. This was my Husbands bike, due to separation I am the sole owner of the bike and have legal Sole ownership given by the lawyers and through the courts with papers to prove it, So there is no need to worry about REPOSSESSION. So I will try and answer the questions to the best of my knowledge. Thanks and sorry to all for the confusion i had caused on the first description :)"

Danger
2nd July 2008, 16:15
Whew. Unwittingly set the cat amongst the pigeons a bit with this post. Some pretty strong feelings there.

Danger you have me a bit intrigued: quote: 'Damn I'm tempted to snap that one up for myself! Last of the good ones!' Unquote.

That particular bike has a lot of hours on it and he never even had the jug off! Remembering your reporting big hours on your original piston. Whats the scoop?


:::::Apparently I'm working towards making every thread about KTM exc200s...!::::::

How do you know how many hours this bike is done?
And don't worry, they're all good, some just better than others. Off course the factorys all want you to think the new one is always better than the old. I just say that about the '02 cause that is what I have and a rider who had an '02 then a couple of later models once told me that the '02 was the last of the good ones and it just stuck. Some of the things I like about my model in comparison to the new ones are the 43mm two bushing forks, the two high flow pistons in the shock, the progressive spring, the better plastics, the swingarm, the see through tank, the great piston life, the strong gearbox, the rear brake rotor.
Some of these aspects did not see improvements in later models. Some improvements that have been made to later models include fatbars, better front axle arrangement for faster wheel changes, a longer needle inside the shock, 12mm cartridge rod (might have been changed again this year from what I'm hearing, the front guard and I'm scratching my head for much else. Off course different aspects of the newer bikes maybe listed as improvements to other owners.
Frames have been ovalised. Carb has been changed (but my bike feels more powerful than the newer ones I've ridden but my bike is jetted good). Plastics are still not as good.
And my bike has had many improvements over a stock '02, suspension, triple clamps, muffler, steering damper, carb needles, fatbars, front guard and careful setup. If I really felt the new 200's were a major improvement over the '02 I would have bought one already. But they were really good to start with from my model.
You can't really go wrong. I don't expect this '02 to be in high demand and I'm trying to resist the temptation to be a bike hoarder. Maybe if I had more room.:drool:

Danger
2nd July 2008, 16:25
I see some idiot's just bid on it 3 times and cranked the price up.:mad:

NordieBoy
2nd July 2008, 17:56
I see some idiot's just bid on it 3 times and cranked the price up.:mad:

They're trying to find out the reserve which looks like it's around $3K

The Stranger
2nd July 2008, 18:04
So where's Disco Dan.
No man and plenty of toys - to hell with the bike.

Shadows
2nd July 2008, 22:07
Damn I'm tempted to snap that one up for myself!

Nah, it sounds like she'll just piss off and take your bike with her.

Oper8r
2nd July 2008, 22:10
it is probably one of her girlfriends cranking up the price so can spend some more money out on the turps looking for some new mug to strip of his free spirit....

camchain
2nd July 2008, 22:18
Cheers for that Danger. Interesting. Guy answered hours Q in original listing. Can't remember exactly how many but it was well up there, but what surprised me was the lack of engine work.

Have tried to find out model spec changes since first model but hard to find info. I settled on 07 as porting (or powervalve?) changes and a different pipe supposedly added some bottom end (despite smaller carb) Trouble with this model is they tend not to get trundled around on farm rides by sit down riders, so wanted late model hoping for fewer mech issues. Looked at new GG and used exc yesterday.

Reckless if you're out there, 09s are due end of August.

BTW Danger (RE yr query to Scott) found this item on MX Action website - No more RM 250s being made after this year. Another sad nail in the 2t coffin...


If that guy was that keen on keeping his bike he might have considered taking it to 'bikeshop' for 'repairs' when the writing was on the wall re split up. (By bikeshop I mean a mates garage)

Reckless
3rd July 2008, 00:32
Cheers Camchain!! I'm saving like hell, selling everything I've got and working my ass off!!! 8 weeks or less, shit now I'm worried! LOL!!

Back on topic!!
Why the hell this stupid lady didn't just keep her bloody mouth shut if she had her husbands approval. And just sell the damn thing without opening that whole break up saga to the world. Says a lot about how bloody silly she is. For goodness sake, its a motocross bike, no rego to trace, take cash, the buyer walks out the gate into the wide blue yonder, how the hell are you gonna repossess that. Ask the crims that steel them from us, the bikes just disappear!
Jeepers doesn't take a rocket scientist to work that out! Must be a drama queen I reckon!! He probably left her with the bike because its shagged and he didn't want to spend any money on it. Betcha that's why!

By the way Cam did you see that 05 Ktm200 90 hrs in Te rapa. Bid of 4k at the mo but it looks in good nick. Theres also an 04 115hrs in Christchurch that looks OK as well.

camchain
4th July 2008, 11:26
Brotherhood of blokedom is a pretty close knit group (esp motorcyclers). I think you hit a couple of nails on heads there Reckless (quote - just sell the damn thing without opening that whole break up saga to the world). I was thinking if he wasn't feeling guilty about something he wouldn't have let her have the bike though. Who knows what their particular situation is.

I've known a couple of dudes who have come home to find the house devoid of furniture, wife, kids. Never heard of it happening the other way round.

Off topic: Reckless. PMed you about another EXC I looked at.

(((Originally Posted by Danger
Damn I'm tempted to snap that one up for myself!

Nah, it sounds like she'll just piss off and take your bike with her.)))

Nice quip Shadow

Danger
5th July 2008, 22:58
Well it closed without reaching reserve of $3000.00. Top bid was $2700.00 so perhaps they might be offered the bike at that price.

RiderInBlack
6th July 2008, 18:35
Well it closed without reaching reserve of $3000.00. Top bid was $2700.00 so perhaps they might be offered the bike at that price.
Na she really wants the $3000:

"The seller has made a fixed price offer for KTM 200 2002 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/axl.asp?id=163189181).

You can purchase the item now for $3,000.00 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/axl.asp?id=163189181). This offer is available to all bidders and watchers selected by the seller.

The offer is valid for 7 day(s), or until one of the recipients accepts the fixed price. The first member to accept the offer will win the auction."

Rollestonchick
6th July 2008, 21:24
:argue: ouch wat a b#@*h

Mom
6th July 2008, 21:30
And just sell the damn thing without opening that whole break up saga to the world. Says a lot about how bloody silly ...

.... people can be. Sadly this "I have to be seen to be right, because my feelings are dented" is typical of both genders! Interestingly, the more you make a fuss, the bigger dick you make of yourself.