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martybabe
3rd July 2008, 17:48
I've had loads of heroes, real and fictional, who's yours?

No.1 would have to be my mom, not just because she was my mom, most moms are great.

She was diagnosed with cancer, taking some respite in a hospice at the time when she suddenly decided whilst reading a magazine, that the reason doctors were saying the outlook was not good ,was because she couldn't make it to the toilet unaided.

She was 4 foot eleven, had an artificial hip, chronic arthritis, Cancer of the bowel, stomach and eye, and needed a zimmer frame to shuffle a few metres.

She reasoned that if she made it to the toilet the doctors would have to reconsider their diagnosis. She slithered out of bed and grabbed her frame, slowly pulled herself up and started the bravest journey I have ever witnessed. She shouted at me for trying to help, other patients called for nurses, they insisted on helping her, she insisted they didn't, she struggled in agony for 15 metres or so to the toilet, nurses inches away, patients willing her on, tears cascading down my face. One nurse could bear no more and grabbed her arm. Mom said, "thank you dear but let go I have to do this alone" and she farkin well did.

It was the most pitiful, painful, determined, amazing, slowest, bravest act of defiance I have ever seen in my life. I felt helpless and angry that she wouldn't let me help, incredibly sad that my mom had come to this and so very very proud. Her body had given up on her but her iron will was as strong as it ever was.

My Hero, my mom R.I.P who's yours? :niceone:

nighthawk
3rd July 2008, 18:05
Mate thats brought a tear to my eye.......................


I can appreciate how you felt my Mum is in the last stages of bowel cancer and is not aware most of the time we are there, we treasure the lucid moments with her tremendously.

martybabe
3rd July 2008, 18:19
Thank you so much, sorry to hear about your mom, It's a very hard thing to endure, I wish you well.

sidecar bob
3rd July 2008, 18:35
My mun died of bowel cancer when i was aged 8.
I can still remember the day my dad picked us three kids up from school & drove us to the local park to explain to us that our mum was going to die soon.
I saw many incredible acts of courage during the two years it took for the bastard thing to finally get her.
There were many theories & crank cures about in 1974 & watching her trying to eat & gagging on some disgusting concoctions all in an effort to be around a bit longer for her kids was hard to watch.
I cant put my finger on one paticular instance, but her whole battle was the most corageous thing i will ever witness.
She is still my hero & biggest inspiration i have to be the best person i can be.

ynot slow
3rd July 2008, 18:41
Marty and Nighthawk,know how ya feel,been there done that got the scars.

Bowell cancer is a bastard,especially for elderly folks,I was too old or young when they took mine at 41(had 41st birthday in NPbase hospital),depending on the theory they used,I should have developed it at late teen years or later on,i.e 65 plus.Went to a gene trial,thought it would help others,found out I had a genetic disorder,so my kids were blood tested,one ok,other not.

My hero is two people first-My daughter who was told just prior to her 16th birthday she had dads gene for cancer,she was admitted to hospital before last xmas to have large bowell removed to ensure she doesn't get the tumor I had,and should lead a life without worry,and although she can pass the gene on will cross that bridge later,for a father the hardest thing to see,but also makes me proud of an 18yr old with an attitude towards life.

Second hero is a guy I met undergoing radiation in Palmy,only met him during our stay,but recieved a call about 4-6 weeks later saying he was in the hospice,went to visit him after having chemo one day,he had never smiled to anyone except his partner,the day I saw him he smiled,that was only time he smiled,not for his family,almost like he knew what we were going through(his was hell),found out he looked to me as inspiration,which I did about him,in my eyes he was worse than me,he saw me as worse than himself.The hardest thing I ever had to do was attend his funeral,I had to have my chemo done the day of his funeral,raced to the ceremony,just made it in time.Still brings a lump in my throat when I hear a couple of songs which he had played,he knew he was history so planned his funeral and songs.He told my wife in Palmy"how do you tell the woman you love you won't make our wedding?"That comment was the only time I saw a tear in my wifes' eye,she had been through shit with me and never let her emotions show to give me strength,so I'll add a third hero,my wife,without her maybe this stubborn born again biker would not be a born again biker,just dead.So thanks dear for nagging me to see the quack,almost was too late.

martybabe
3rd July 2008, 19:12
She is still my hero & biggest inspiration i have to be the best person i can be.

An amazing woman and you do her credit with comments and goals like that. Well said mate.


Marty and Nighthawk,know how ya feel,been there done that got the scars.

Bowell cancer is a bastard,especially for elderly folks,I was too old or young when they took mine at 41(had 41st birthday in NPbase hospital),depending on the theory they used,I should have developed it at late teen years or later on,i.e 65 plus.Went to a gene trial,thought it would help others,found out I had a genetic disorder,so my kids were blood tested,one ok,other not.

My hero is two people first-My daughter who was told just prior to her 16th birthday she had dads gene for cancer,she was admitted to hospital before last xmas to have large bowell removed to ensure she doesn't get the tumor I had,and should lead a life without worry,and although she can pass the gene on will cross that bridge later,for a father the hardest thing to see,but also makes me proud of an 18yr old with an attitude towards life.

Second hero is a guy I met undergoing radiation in Palmy,only met him during our stay,but recieved a call about 4-6 weeks later saying he was in the hospice,went to visit him after having chemo one day,he had never smiled to anyone except his partner,the day I saw him he smiled,that was only time he smiled,not for his family,almost like he knew what we were going through(his was hell),found out he looked to me as inspiration,which I did about him,in my eyes he was worse than me,he saw me as worse than himself.The hardest thing I ever had to do was attend his funeral,I had to have my chemo done the day of his funeral,raced to the ceremony,just made it in time.Still brings a lump in my throat when I hear a couple of songs which he had played,he knew he was history so planned his funeral and songs.He told my wife in Palmy"how do you tell the woman you love you won't make our wedding?"That comment was the only time I saw a tear in my wifes' eye,she had been through shit with me and never let her emotions show to give me strength,so I'll add a third hero,my wife,without her maybe this stubborn born again biker would not be a born again biker,just dead.So thanks dear for nagging me to see the quack,almost was too late.

Stunned, what a family. respect to you and yours ynot. Not sure about thanking her for nagging though. :laugh: ok then but I hate it when their right.

Well told mate. :niceone:

R6_kid
3rd July 2008, 19:25
incase you hadnt already noticed my avatar, my hero is Katman.


uh yeh...

martybabe
3rd July 2008, 19:49
incase you hadnt already noticed my avatar, my hero is Katman.


uh yeh...

Yes, indeed, more of a wolverine fan myself. :laugh:

ynot slow
3rd July 2008, 20:33
An amazing woman and you do her credit with comments and goals like that. Well said mate.



Stunned, what a family. respect to you and yours ynot. Not sure about thanking her for nagging though. :laugh: ok then but I hate it when their right.

Well told mate. :niceone:

Cheers mate,but from the victims' perspective I think the family and friends seem to take the prognossis harder than the victim,my thoughts were shit,bugger and worse thoughts/words,but was more worried about how wife,mum,dad,brother,kids would be feeling.

Donor
3rd July 2008, 20:40
My hero is Elle (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1105990&postcount=1).

A wee angel who departed almost a year ago.

Loadsa warm fuzzies to anyone who has watched a loved one brave this god awful disease...

martybabe
3rd July 2008, 21:17
My hero is Elle (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1105990&postcount=1).

A wee angel who departed almost a year ago.

Loadsa warm fuzzies to anyone who has watched a loved one brave this god awful disease...


Man. Thanx for that, I hear what yer saying about the little ones that go before they should. I shared too many last moments with children as a fireman and I always went home and scooped up my own kids and hugged em way beyond their endurance, Yep we're lucky indeed.

Bless ya Elle. Thanks Donor

Mom
3rd July 2008, 21:29
I buried my hero a bit over 10 years ago now. She was the most indestructible woman I have ever met, and braved an enormous battle with breast cancer and its secondaries for 8 years. She was 38 when she died, left behind 2 girls. After all these years I still can not explain how much she meant to me, nor how much I still miss her sometimes, with out crying.

martybabe
3rd July 2008, 21:53
I still can not explain how much she meant to me


I think you just did and very well too.

No sadness on your birthday sweetheart. :hug:

peasea
3rd July 2008, 23:22
I have several:
Maxwell Smart (Agent 99, so cute....)
Captain Scarlett
Mister Tracey
Baron Barracuda
Mister Tweedy
Postman Pat
Speed Racer (the original)
Mister Magoo
Penelope Pitstop
Johnny (The Wild One)
Forest Gump
Captain Pugwash
Roger the cabin boy
Master Bates
Seaman Stains
and last, but not least Cleopatra, who committed suicide by holding a beast to her ass. (Or was it an asp to her breast? Who cares? So cute....)

Big Dave
3rd July 2008, 23:58
Roger the cabin boy
Master Bates
Seaman Stains


Sorry old bean - they don't exist - it's 'Master Mate', and the rest are urban myth. I found it hard to believe too. Snopes it.

peasea
4th July 2008, 00:00
Sorry old bean - they don't exist - it's 'Master Mate', and the rest are urban myth. I found it hard to believe too. Snopes it.


Um, I can't think of any of them that actually 'exist' but point taken.
Twaz a jest old bean.

But Agent 99, come onnnnn.........

Big Dave
4th July 2008, 00:28
Um, I can't think of any of them that actually 'exist' but point taken.
Twaz a jest old bean.

But Agent 99, come onnnnn.........

Hey no probs with the list - I've you tubed magoo and max recently - just that those three fictional characters didn't exist at all - even in fiction.

Yet I was sure I'd heard the Bates gag with my own ears. not so.
http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/pugwash.asp

alanzs
4th July 2008, 08:32
Heroes, to me, are the people that put aside their own needs and desires to do what's best for others. They say there is no greater love than to give one's life for another. I'm humbled by these people....

007XX
4th July 2008, 08:45
Martybabe, your mom and my hubby's would have been best mates. We lost her to breast cancer 2 years ago, after a 7 years battle that she fought with tooth, nails and a feisty attitude rivaled by few...

She was closer to me than my own mother (no disrespect to my birth mom of course), and I miss her keenly all the time. She is my hero for showing me that no matter how sickly she got, she could still hold her family of six together with an iron hand...she was the gel that held it all in place and often, I regret deeply the fact she passed away before Neil and I's wedding.

She did however give us her blessing shortly before passing on, and I am thankful for that.

Respect to all who have to fight against the dark, against any debilitating illnesses, whether they be young like Elle or of elder years.

martybabe
4th July 2008, 09:42
But Agent 99, come onnnnn.........

Old one or new one? I did like the old girl.


Heroes, to me, are the people that put aside their own needs and desires to do what's best for others. They say there is no greater love than to give one's life for another. I'm humbled by these people....

Me too and their out there all the time, you just never notice em till the shit hits the fan.




Respect to all who have to fight against the dark, against any debilitating illnesses, whether they be young like Elle or of elder years.

Here here, we all have trials to endure, it makes us the people we are but sometimes, sometimes, it seems so bloody unfair, especially where the young and innocent are involved.

On a lighter note, some fellas that helped me through my yoof.

ynot slow
4th July 2008, 16:48
Marty the song Heroes is my favourite Bowie one,and along with a few others sums up a guy ahead of his time.

"We can be heroes"very true words.

avgas
4th July 2008, 16:54
Tommy Hilfinger - making fatter people look fatter since ages ago

martybabe
4th July 2008, 17:37
Marty the song Heroes is my favourite Bowie one,and along with a few others sums up a guy ahead of his time.

"We can be heroes"very true words.


yes indeedy, managed to see him live once, took me two days to get my hearing back but for a grubby li'll 13 year old street kid, it really did seem like he was from another world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_HAWm0PBWU&feature=related#


Tommy Hilfinger - making fatter people look fatter since ages ago


Hhaha, av man, never would of put T hilfinger down as likely candidate for your Hero.

nighthawk
4th July 2008, 18:06
Thank you so much, sorry to hear about your mom, It's a very hard thing to endure, I wish you well.

Cheers martybabe and Ynot slow for your kind thoughs

Ynot, like you Im ever so lucky to have a wonderful woman at my side who is a great support to me and my elderly father.

We got together 6 years ago as Jo was getting to terms with loosing her oldest sister at just 36 years old, she told me sometime later that she hoped she could return the support sometime, I never dreamed it would be like this..

Although Jo is somewhat younger than me she is an old head on young shoulders.............thanks Hun

avgas
6th July 2008, 21:26
Hhaha, av man, never would of put T hilfinger down as likely candidate for your Hero.
Yep him, Boyd Coddigton, MC Hammer - making people look stupid since ages ago.

98tls
6th July 2008, 21:36
My mother springs to mind first for me to,put up with years of abuse from the old man then when she left him had to endure years of verbal abuse from a young brainwashed selfish piece of shit (that would be me) blaming her for walking away.Best day of my life was asking her to forgive my crap,and her giving me a hug.....then the waterworks started:doh::shifty:From the age of 16 i ignored any form of contact from her for 12 years,a great waste and will admit i fuss over her no end to try in vain to make it up to her.

Nordy
6th July 2008, 22:42
My hero is my dad (sorry mum)

he was brave enough to stop the cycle of violence. For that I think hes bloody amazing.

peasea
6th July 2008, 22:59
My hero is my dad (sorry mum)

he was brave enough to stop the cycle of violence. For that I think hes bloody amazing.

We need more of him.
Bling to your dad.

martybabe
7th July 2008, 08:42
Yep him, Boyd Coddigton, MC Hammer - making people look stupid since ages ago.

Avbabe, your a strange dude but bloody funny and as such have my undying love, since ages ago. :apint:


My mother springs to mind first for me to,put up with years of abuse from the old man then when she left him had to endure years of verbal abuse from a young brainwashed selfish piece of shit (that would be me) blaming her for walking away.Best day of my life was asking her to forgive my crap,and her giving me a hug.....then the waterworks started:doh::shifty:From the age of 16 i ignored any form of contact from her for 12 years,a great waste and will admit i fuss over her no end to try in vain to make it up to her.

Man I can relate to that, son number two and his mother. As with you, things are fine now thank heaven. What a crazy time that was. Big ups 98, you only get one mom and they are the best forgiverers in the world. :love:


We need more of him.
Bling to your dad.

Yes we do. :clap:

ynot slow
7th July 2008, 21:33
Thank god I never had to deal with violent parents,dads father was belted as a kid,he should have done the same to his kids,when they were naughty their mum sent them to see their dad for punishment,he usually hit the bench with the strap,never hit his kids or us grandkids,truly amazing guy,most situations have an abused dad doing same to his kids.

Had a mate who saw Once were warriors,afterwards these little kids were saying just like home eh bro and shit like that laughing,mate turned and told the little fuckers to grow up,they told him to piss off whitey(he is 50/50)and proud of his nanas heritage.He said why don't ya act tough to your old man when he hits your mum and walked away.This dick had a go and came off second best,mate was black belt in taikwandoo.

fire eyes
7th July 2008, 23:49
wow .. I have many heros .. some dead, some alive, I don't have any specific 'one' that really stands out for me .. but thats not to say they did not have equal impact. The commonalities that bound them all together is their spirit, their compassion, their consideration, their ability to see the failabilities of human-ness but to encourage strength & persistance, the birth right to self expression, the dream to be who they are in this world and not be afraid of prejudice. The courage to participate in my learning as I am in theirs.

Everyone in my life has literally had an impact on me. I grew up in a violent home. Jake the Muss wouldnt have stood a chance against my Dad thats for sure and that is nothing to brag about either. Only difference was my Dad was a clean freak! Ever heard of the Cleaning Gustapo? lol not really funny but I can laugh about it now.

My grandmother died of bowel cancer ... found out in April dead by December, Mum cared for her right til the end, my grandmother didnt want to go and my Mum & Uncles made the heartbreaking decision, advised by the doctors, to shoot her up with morphine and send her on her way. That is something they never got over and has haunted them ever since.

I am in awe by so many in my life .. everyone who I have come in contact with, in my life, is here to share a pivotal event with me regardless of how big or small it is. I share the experience with them just as much as they do with us. This is why I have many heros.

Forest
8th July 2008, 00:12
If I had to choose, I'd say Corporal Bill Apiata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Apiata).

But he is one of many that I admire.

Dave-
8th July 2008, 01:21
my family in general really, mum, dad, my brother, my poppa once saved my life, he also took me tramping a bit, my grandad who died when i was only 5 months old has been an inspiration to me (he got an MM for bravery in the war and died of the wounds he recieved for getting the MM)

martybabe
8th July 2008, 10:51
wow

I am in awe by so many in my life .. everyone who I have come in contact with, in my life, is here to share a pivotal event with me regardless of how big or small it is. I share the experience with them just as much as they do with us. This is why I have many heroes.

Me too, Ive omitted many because the op would have been too long. Good read fire eyes, plenty to contemplate there. :yes:


If I had to choose, I'd say Corporal Bill Apiata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Apiata).

But he is one of many that I admire.

Yes , didn't recognise the name but when I followed your link I remember him. Top bloke and he's not the only one, thank god. I've had the privilege to work alongside many that have risked their lives to save others and it's quite humbling. Thanks for that.


my family in general really, mum, dad, my brother, my poppa once saved my life, he also took me tramping a bit, my grandad who died when i was only 5 months old has been an inspiration to me (he got an MM for bravery in the war and died of the wounds he received for getting the MM)

Often forgotten now, the war Heroes. I'm sure your Grandad would be very proud and pleased that you honour his memory and still more that he is your inspiration.