Who's been a lucky boy then?

[zooter]

I passed accident scene on way to work yestarday. He looked very dead and someone was already on a cellphone so I didn't linger. Turns out (from the local paper) an emergency doc on holiday was already there and a local helicopter pilot, seeing the subsequent ambulance at roadside, made his way toute suite to the airport and got a chopper ready for takeoff before the 111 system got organised. End result: drunken treeclimbing tourist gets his life saved after falling, headfirst, 20m out of a roadside tree.
Anyone been so lucky after a bad off on a bike??

Makes me think I really should do a first aid course so I might be of assitance in such a situation.

[toads]

I passed accident scene on way to work yestarday. He looked very dead and someone was already on a cellphone so I didn't linger. Turns out (from the local paper) an emergency doc on holiday was already there and a local helicopter pilot, seeing the subsequent ambulance at roadside, made his way toute suite to the airport and got a chopper ready for takeoff before the 111 system got organised. End result: drunken treeclimbing tourist gets his life saved after falling, headfirst, 20m out of a roadside tree.
Anyone been so lucky after a bad off on a bike??

Makes me think I really should do a first aid course so I might be of assitance in such a situation.

I know what you mean, I was first on the scene a few years back to a bike accident ( motor cross) and it made me go straight out and do a first aid course, you never know when it will be your turn to save someone's life

[crashe]

Yep a first aid course are great to do...
I did one years ago ..but unfortunatly I have let the cert lapse...
But I would still know some general knowledge of what to do...
But a refresher course would be good to do as well..

[Slim]

Yup. The d*ckhead from Road & Sport on the new TL1000 who decided to show off speeding down my parents road in Hamilton (residential) and t-boned a car at the bottom of the road turning across his path.

5 doctors live within a one block radius and at least 3 or 4 of them were home & assisted immediately at the scene. Going on how long it took the ambulance to get there, it's highly likely he could have died if they all hadn't been home.

[Mongoose]

Yep a first aid course are great to do...
I did one years ago ..but unfortunatly I have let the cert lapse...
But I would still know some general knowledge of what to do...
But a refresher course would be good to do as well..

Yep, it does pay to keep those certs upto date, we are learning all the time and what was appropriate 10 years ago may now NOT be the bestest thing to do. Although, having said that, if you know how to stop bleeding, check airways and know not to move a suspected spinal injury, thats is about all you really nead. CPR MAY be handy too.
Back on topic, maybe that person was lucky in medical help/back-up, but is it that lucky to fall 20mtrs head first?

[Riff Raff]

Yep, it does pay to keep those certs upto date, we are learning all the time and what was appropriate 10 years ago may now NOT be the bestest thing to do.
The ambulance service is constantly revising procedures, and things have come a very long way in 10 years. We are constantly revising our procedures and adjusting the way we treat our patients. Everyone who rides a motorbike should do a first aid course, and doing the refresher courses is a must as well. And please do it with a reputable company, like St John. In my job I'm still coming across patients who've had torniquets put on by well meaning first aiders, and are put at risk of losing a limb because of it. If you think this is how to stop bleeding then you need to do a first aid course NOW!

[Coyote]

Makes me think I really should do a first aid course so I might be of assitance in such a situation.
Yeah, I was thinking of something like that myself because when My brother, dad and I are at the MX track by ourselves, it would be a handy skill to have since most emergency services will take a good half hour to arrive at the scene

[marty]

Yup. The d*ckhead from Road & Sport on the new TL1000 who decided to show off speeding down my parents road in Hamilton (residential) and t-boned a car at the bottom of the road turning across his path.

5 doctors live within a one block radius and at least 3 or 4 of them were home & assisted immediately at the scene. Going on how long it took the ambulance to get there, it's highly likely he could have died if they all hadn't been home.

not the first road and sport dude who rode a customer bike too fast and fell off....the other one wasn't so lucky, and the scene was a mess. at least his helmet stayed on

[ajturbo]

Boy thats is strange.. I was at work last week and came across heaps of crashes and people with cardiac arrests and grasshoppers pranging their pushies.. people bleeding and woman wot cant breef bro, even a dead guy... holy crap I think i better do a first aid course before work tomorrow... never know what will happen. :lol: :lol:


:2thumbsup
let me know when you have sat the tests... untill then i will not fall off my bike when i'm in AKL!



by the way may be up there wed/thursday.....
look out RR
:killingme :killingme :killingme

[sels1]

My wk pays for me to do a cpr+1st aid course every 2 years and it does change a bit each time I do it. Fortunately for those around me, in 18 years I have never had to use it.

[Sniper]

I think I did a first aid course years ago. I was offered one a month ago free of charge through work and I said no. Dammit, why did I???

[Biff]

when I was in my first year of university I passed my beach lifesaving and advanced first aid courses in preperation for a summer working on the beaches. The very same night I passed I went out on the pop with some mates. At closing time I was standing outside with one of my mates when another young ( I was young then) guy saying goodnight to his mates didn't look as he crossed a the road outside the pub, a road with a posted 60MPH limit. A car hit him and he flew so high into the air. Unofrtunately he landed on his head cracking it open and revealing some nasty looking grey stuff etc

I felt useless - he felt nothing I guess.

[Skunk]

I did a 'refresher' course - First Aid for Motorcyclists. Showed us how to remove the helmet and WHEN. 'When' turned out to be more important than 'how'...
Showed what had changed in the twenty years since I last did First Aid. :disapint:

[Biff]

I did a 'refresher' course - First Aid for Motorcyclists. Showed us how to remove the helmet and WHEN. 'When' turned out to be more important than 'how'...
Showed what had changed in the twenty years since I last did First Aid. :disapint:

Could you elaborate a bit mate - when? how?

[Biff]

deleted - arsed up - wrong thread etc

[Skunk]

Could you elaborate a bit mate - when? how?When: if you can't check the breathing etc. Apparently it's quite hard to do damage to the neck if it isn't already damaged (imagine that!), but if it is by supporting the head you (and one other) can safety remove the helmet to check breathing, airway etc.

NOTE: Find out how to do this! If there is a neck injury and you remove the helmet you can make minor turn into serious. :(

The point was if bystanders are too scared to remove the helmet they may miss the fact that the rider is not breathing or has choked on their tongue.

[Slim]

... or has choked on their tongue.
Which makes pointing out that it's actually impossible to swallow your tongue, and therefore choke on it, fairly appropriate.

However, airways can be blocked by the tongue falling backwards, if the neck is in the wrong position. Probably the most interesting thing I learnt on the free 1st Aid Course my work offered, and I wisely accepted. :) Sniper - DO IT next time they offer, or better yet, tell your manager you're interested now to take it next time it's offered or if there are enough people to send on one. Plant the seed ...


Marty - I'd forgotten it was a customer bike. I didn't go anywhere near the scene until after they'd taken him away - too scared to discover a friend on the ground. Went down & checked out the bike though. :eek: Turns out a friend of our family knows him & used to work with him. I think my Mum knows about every 3rd person in Hamilton. :thud: